Will he ever coach again?

He isn't coaching again. He seems content hanging out in he OU pasture like Switzer.

I thought interesting that they showed the office he designed during our game. Odd that he did that a resigned two weeks later.

He wanted to grow a hipster beard, and that just wasn't going to fly in Norman.

If you have to ask this question, you have no right knowing the answer.

It was a forced exodus to keep the heat away from him and to also make sure they didn't lose Lincoln Riley.

Boren audited his football program in fear that Briles like decisions and mistakes could doom his legacy and Bob Stoops' legacy.
They picked the top assistant to replace Stoops.

Is there any chance the Cowboys could hire him or Lincoln Riley after they fire Jason Garrett in January?

Is there a chance?

Did you forget Jerry hired Barry Switzer?

DanaDane said:

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Is there any chance the Cowboys could hire him or Lincoln Riley after they fire Jason Garrett in January?

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No, the Cowboys might take a stab at Stoops.
The Briles version-Scapegoat lays it out on like page 172 or around that page.
I believe Stoops' issues at OU were referenced in the book.

Ou 's athletic director did more than handout raises. Unlike Ian, they protected Stoops.


They had Joe Mixon. We had Lace. Obviously, Mixon is a better player in his sport. Mixon was going to draw more attention because he is likely pro bowl candidate. Stoops didn't screw it up. In both cases, it was about winning.

Story i read last week was that his dad just up and died while coaching a high school back in Youngstown

He was like 54

Stoops is 56

Seems like he fears death

BoonDockSaint said:

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Story i read last week was that his dad just up and died while coaching a high school back in Youngstown

He was like 54

Stoops is 56

Seems like he fears death

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You do realize Bob has two brothers in coaching at NCAA level?
Bob would have also been.given a chance to coach his son like his late father coached him.
Stoops also shows up at practice.
At $6 million per I am sure he had a pretty good heart doctor at OU medical. Even in Oklahoma. Stoops had a beat on it.

Story I heard was that his children had grown up and he missed a big portion of their life, and he wanted to spend as much time with them in their high school years before they were out of the house to college. Then he hopes the Dallas Cowboy job opens up to get back into coaching.

xiledinok said:

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BoonDockSaint said:

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Story i read last week was that his dad just up and died while coaching a high school back in Youngstown

He was like 54

Stoops is 56

Seems like he fears death

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You do realize Bob has two brothers in coaching at NCAA level?
Bob would have also been.given a chance to coach his son like his late father coached him.
Stoops also shows up at practice.
At $6 million per I am sure he had a pretty good heart doctor at OU medical. Even in Oklahoma. Stoops had a beat on it.

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Soo did u have a father die at a young age ?

Does you and ur brothers think alike

The story i heard was that Mixon was just the tip of the iceberg and Boren wanted to avoid a Bayloresque scandal. So making him go away (as coach, at least) somehow distanced him in case other problems came to light. But they have not yet.

I don't know he is hanging around so there isn't much distance. Furthermore it doesn't seem like a firing situation. He is still hanging out and even going to practices and sitting in on meetings with the QBs.

MilliVanilli said:

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It was a forced exodus to keep the heat away from him and to also make sure they didn't lose Lincoln Riley.

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He wasn't forced out. That's a fantasy, like most of your posts

With his salary multiplied over a decade and a half in Oklahoma, he probably woke up and realized, "I don't have to work. I can do whatever I want, when I want and how I want." A million (or two) dollar house in Oklahoma is like a palace and he would've paid that off years ago. If I could quit my job and hang out with my kids, that sounds like fun. He's not a coach, but Garth Brooks did the same thing.

JETHRO said:

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With his salary multiplied over a decade and a half in Oklahoma, he probably woke up and realized, "I don't have to work. I can do whatever I want, when I want and how I want." A million (or two) dollar house in Oklahoma is like a palace and he would've paid that off years ago. If I could quit my job and hang out with my kids, that sounds like fun. He's not a coach, but Garth Brooks did the same thing.

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That's not the way coaches think. They "have" to coach. That's why you saw Paterno and Bowden keep going so long. They're not doing it to get enough money to retire. They'd coach until they were 100 if they could.

DanaDane said:

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Is there any chance the Cowboys could hire him or Lincoln Riley after they fire Jason Garrett in January?

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I'm afraid that Garrett will win just enough games this year to get a 9th year as coach

bularry said:

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MilliVanilli said:

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It was a forced exodus to keep the heat away from him and to also make sure they didn't lose Lincoln Riley.

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He wasn't forced out. That's a fantasy, like most of your posts

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Yeah, ok, that's an authoritative comeback, less sexual than your usual rants so I guess we can be thankful for that.

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MilliVanilli said:

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It was a forced exodus to keep the heat away from him and to also make sure they didn't lose Lincoln Riley.

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He wasn't forced out. That's a fantasy, like most of your posts

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Oklahoma's athletic director wasn't even at the news conference to discuss Bob's resignation or to hire Lincoln.
Believe what you wish but Bob wants and wanted to coach his kid.
Boren audited his program because he didn't want Stoops to end up like Art Briles (coaching wise, Boren probably likes Italian boys so he likes Art's opportunity).

Skeletons. Ugly ones.
And there are several per reporter that my brother knows up there.

BoonDockSaint said:

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xiledinok said:

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BoonDockSaint said:

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Story i read last week was that his dad just up and died while coaching a high school back in Youngstown

He was like 54

Stoops is 56

Seems like he fears death

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You do realize Bob has two brothers in coaching at NCAA level?
Bob would have also been.given a chance to coach his son like his late father coached him.
Stoops also shows up at practice.
At $6 million per I am sure he had a pretty good heart doctor at OU medical. Even in Oklahoma. Stoops had a beat on it.

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Soo did u have a father die at a young age ?

Does you and ur brothers think alike

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Those brothers do think a great deal alike and old Bob is at practice watching his kid.
Boren knew to avoid our course of action. Do you have any proof that Bob has a bad heart? Sometimes it is always good to throw out a rumor to cover the real reason for something happening. A little disinformation works on some people. It is how our former staff generally operates against Baylor. It works in the bubble on some folks but nowhere else educated people live and work.

Mixon and $$$

Stoops had been running a very dirty program for decades. The leadership at OU didn't want to get fired like Starr & Ian... and the stories were starting to come out. They were able to cover the Joe Mixon story for awhile, but not forever. So they got rid of Stoops and were happy to replace him with Lincoln. It was a well calculated move. Timing made it tough for recruits & commits to bail. Baker had already missed the draft, and committed to play for his senior year... so continuity was insured. With Stoops gone, there is less interest in exposing his program... he is already gone... what does it matter... it's Lincolns program now. Brilliant move.
Gotta say that the leadership at OU, learned a lot from what happened at Baylor.

I know why Charlie Weiss isn't coaching.

CWK5DD

(Charlie Weiss killed five dozen donuts)

If this is true, why's is Stoops still very involved with the OU program? Not saying it isn't true but the fact they still have a great relationship, doesn't jive.

Give me Garrett Top over Stoops. Ughhhh

None of it is true or untrue Partybear.....but round here - lots of folks won't let proof or facts get in the way of making up a sensational story on their opponents......

Proof Bob has a bad ticker?....who cares.....

Proof Bob doesn't have a good ticker?....irrelevant.

Proof Bob ran a dirty program that was about to implode as ours did?......not so fast.

We need to beleive others are just as effed up as we are - but since they are the "blue blood" ilk they get away with it....

We play the victim well and are only where we are today because we're a little Baptist college that no one could stand seeing win @ football.

I don't know whether the conspiracy theory is true or not. But I do know that over the year Stoops said that one day he was just going to retire early and enjoy life. He brought up his dad often and said he didn't want to die of a heart attack on the sidelines. He enjoys living in Oklahoma. In fact, when he was offered the Florida job years ago, he was about to accept it when his wife drove him out to their then new home (giant castle) that they were building. He then decided that he'd retire at OU and be content in life. It just seems like his life has followed the path he has indicated all along. If that is the case, more power to him.

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Stoops had been running a very dirty program for decades. The leadership at OU didn't want to get fired like Starr & Ian... and the stories were starting to come out. They were able to cover the Joe Mixon story for awhile, but not forever. So they got rid of Stoops and were happy to replace him with Lincoln. It was a well calculated move. Timing made it tough for recruits & commits to bail. Baker had already missed the draft, and committed to play for his senior year... so continuity was insured. With Stoops gone, there is less interest in exposing his program... he is already gone... what does it matter... it's Lincolns program now. Brilliant move.
Gotta say that the leadership at OU, learned a lot from what happened at Baylor.

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Very well-done Shooter. I know personally that story was told to me by a BMD at OU and that CBS has some issues with one of his boys as well. You hit everything on the head with what you stated. In addition, because BU/OU were taking over as face of the conference, I was told that they would make an example of Bob just like CAB. Regardless of what you believe did or didn't happen, CAB made an enemy the night of Dec 7, 2014 with Bob Bowlsby saying, "You know, if you're going to slogan around and say there's 'One True Champion,' all the sudden you're going to go out the back door instead of going out the front?" Briles said. "Don't say one thing and do another." That put the nail in the coffin with any assistance from the commissioner. CAB acknowledged that it was a mistake.

I was told that LHN and ESPN wanted Art and Bob gone because of the amount of money that LHN had lost 48-50 million on the 295 million investment. I heard that that they (whoever who they are exactly) told Bob to step down or sanctions were coming.

Regardless how anyone feels or believes UT/LHN/ESPN still have control of the BIG12. This is their conference. They built LHN to control the media. Even though SMU did what they did, UT was just as bad or worse. They were the instigator in turning SMU in, and they couldn't handle the fact that the Bill Clements was in the governor's mansion calling for "play for pay". They also didn't like the redneck country boy from West Texas dropping 60 on them (not literally, although we almost beat them with a WR at QB) and the taunting them. May not believe, but it's true.So the media wasn't going to come running to our aid, especially with a liberal outlet like ABC owning it.

Those factors as well as enemies inside the organization didn't help. Well a lot of former athletes that see this blog or site can tell you A LOT more goes on than you know. It just depends on someone who wants to tell you everything that does. If you know an athlete, or former athlete at ANY university including BU tells you something happened good or bad, then it probably did.

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None of it is true or untrue Partybear.....but round here - lots of folks won't let proof or facts get in the way of making up a sensational story on their opponents......

Proof Bob has a bad ticker?....who cares.....

Proof Bob doesn't have a good ticker?....irrelevant.

Proof Bob ran a dirty program that was about to implode as ours did?......not so fast.

We need to beleive others are just as effed up as we are - but since they are the "blue blood" ilk they get away with it....

We play the victim well and are only where we are today because we're a little Baptist college that no one could stand seeing win @ football.

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I'm sure that there were many factors for Stoops retirement. I'm sure that he was motivated to leave someday, because of his father and his heart condition. None of that explains the timing of his departure. Why not announce that you are going to leave at the end of the season, so that everyone has time to get used to it? It would have given him a sendoff season, and let everyone be prepared for the transition to Lincoln Riley. It seemed to work for Virginia Tech.

Whenever I mention the dirty program at OU, people always assume that I'm talking about a sexual assualt scandal, similar to Baylor. Nope. Stoops was covering for his players, and their activities. I'm sure that some of them were getting money from alum & boosters... but that isn't really what I'm talking about either. Joe Mixon put a girl in the hospital, and no one saw the video for almost 3 years? THAT is the kind of stuff I'm talking about.... covering up for players. Baker Mayfield gets caught on camera, running from the cops, and he gets..... nothing. Under Stoops, OU was in the top 5 programs.... for players being arrested. They also lead the nation in players arrested, who still contributed after their arrests.

There is another piece to the dirty program, which is directly tied to Stoops. In 2004 OU shutout UT in a very big upset game. It was the 5th in a row, and most of them were unexpected, one-sided victories.
The story is that Mack Brown was tipped off by another HC, that Stoops was getting his hands on the UT playbook & practice films. Coach Brown thought it was a joke, until the tipster described in detail the film storage room. Apparently a member of the custodial crew was making some extra money by stealing copies of practice film, and selling it to Stoops. He tried to offer the same deal to another HC, and that HC decided to tell Mack Brown... after their game, of course. So Mack Brown hired extra security for the athletic facility, and he won 4 of the next 5 Red River Shootouts. My source heard this story from Mack Brown directly. He asked Brown why he never filed a complaint. Brown said that it would be impossible to prove, and that he won a national title the next year anyway, so he really didn't care at the time.

Believe it... don't believe it... I don't care. The fact is that Stoops was able to keep Mayfield and Mixon on his team after both of them were caught on tape, committing crimes. Stoops was a national leader in players arrested, even though most of his players were only arrested outside of Norman (who really knows what players got away with inside the Norman city limits). Stoops retired in a very peculiar way, and very odd timing. And we all know that OU has a very, very long history of doing whatever it takes to win at football. Paying players, steroids, players dealing drugs, sexual assaults,... the list is very long. The thing is that the culture is shifting, and the public isn't going to accept a program which covers up the transgressions of its players. Once the Mixon tape was finally made public, I think the leadership at OU (AD, President, etc) decided that they needed to protect themselves. They probably believed that CAB ran a dirty program, and that Ian and Starr were collateral damage victims of the fallout. They didn't want that to happen to them, so they asked him to leave. It makes sense... Mixon tape is released and 7 months later, Stoops retires. He retired right before the senior year of his Heisman shoe-in player. OU was a preseason pick for the playoffs. Why retire BEFORE a shot at a championship? Why not retire after?

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Golden Helmet said:

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None of it is true or untrue Partybear.....but round here - lots of folks won't let proof or facts get in the way of making up a sensational story on their opponents......

Proof Bob has a bad ticker?....who cares.....

Proof Bob doesn't have a good ticker?....irrelevant.

Proof Bob ran a dirty program that was about to implode as ours did?......not so fast.

We need to beleive others are just as effed up as we are - but since they are the "blue blood" ilk they get away with it....

We play the victim well and are only where we are today because we're a little Baptist college that no one could stand seeing win @ football.

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I'm sure that there were many factors for Stoops retirement. I'm sure that he was motivated to leave someday, because of his father and his heart condition. None of that explains the timing of his departure. Why not announce that you are going to leave at the end of the season, so that everyone has time to get used to it? It would have given him a sendoff season, and let everyone be prepared for the transition to Lincoln Riley. It seemed to work for Virginia Tech.

Whenever I mention the dirty program at OU, people always assume that I'm talking about a sexual assualt scandal, similar to Baylor. Nope. Stoops was covering for his players, and their activities. I'm sure that some of them were getting money from alum & boosters... but that isn't really what I'm talking about either. Joe Mixon put a girl in the hospital, and no one saw the video for almost 3 years? THAT is the kind of stuff I'm talking about.... covering up for players. Baker Mayfield gets caught on camera, running from the cops, and he gets..... nothing. Under Stoops, OU was in the top 5 programs.... for players being arrested. They also lead the nation in players arrested, who still contributed after their arrests.

There is another piece to the dirty program, which is directly tied to Stoops. In 2004 OU shutout UT in a very big upset game. It was the 5th in a row, and most of them were unexpected, one-sided victories.
The story is that Mack Brown was tipped off by another HC, that Stoops was getting his hands on the UT playbook & practice films. Coach Brown thought it was a joke, until the tipster described in detail the film storage room. Apparently a member of the custodial crew was making some extra money by stealing copies of practice film, and selling it to Stoops. He tried to offer the same deal to another HC, and that HC decided to tell Mack Brown... after their game, of course. So Mack Brown hired extra security for the athletic facility, and he won 4 of the next 5 Red River Shootouts. My source heard this story from Mack Brown directly. He asked Brown why he never filed a complaint. Brown said that it would be impossible to prove, and that he won a national title the next year anyway, so he really didn't care at the time.

Believe it... don't believe it... I don't care. The fact is that Stoops was able to keep Mayfield and Mixon on his team after both of them were caught on tape, committing crimes. Stoops was a national leader in players arrested, even though most of his players were only arrested outside of Norman (who really knows what players got away with inside the Norman city limits). Stoops retired in a very peculiar way, and very odd timing. And we all know that OU has a very, very long history of doing whatever it takes to win at football. Paying players, steroids, players dealing drugs, sexual assaults,... the list is very long. The thing is that the culture is shifting, and the public isn't going to accept a program which covers up the transgressions of its players. Once the Mixon tape was finally made public, I think the leadership at OU (AD, President, etc) decided that they needed to protect themselves. They probably believed that CAB ran a dirty program, and that Ian and Starr were collateral damage victims of the fallout. They didn't want that to happen to them, so they asked him to leave. It makes sense... Mixon tape is released and 7 months later, Stoops retires. He retired right before the senior year of his Heisman shoe-in player. OU was a preseason pick for the playoffs. Why retire BEFORE a shot at a championship? Why not retire after?

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I believe with you 100%. Here is a fact, there are very few that run or even to to run a clean program. Charlie Strong did, and I am not so sure it went over too well at UT. I had heard the playbook scenario as well, but the person who told me was the son of a BMG at UT, and I just didn't believe him. Please understand I was not implying SA. I was hearing the same things that you were told. BGB "took care of things" and "made them disappear.

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If this is true, why's is Stoops still very involved with the OU program? Not saying it isn't true but the fact they still have a great relationship, doesn't jive.

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He's getting away with it because the person that made that deal no longer has the power. And by the way, according to NCAA rules, he's not supposed to be there if he's having conversations with other coaches.

It's been asked, and they've deflected ...