What are some of the demands of the 20?

Germaneness rule. Bills must address single subjects. Amendments that include other subjects would be subject to a point of order (no omnibus bills)
Calendar Wednesday , whereby any committee chairman can bring a bill straight to the floor (not subject to Rules Committee vote)
No proxy voting.
No virtual committee meetings.
72-hour rule to give members time to read legislation
A "cut go" rulerequiring any mandatory spending increases be offset with equal or greater mandatory spending cuts.
A three-fifths supermajority vote will be required for tax increases.

I like all of these, but with a closely divided House get ready for grid lock.

There does not seem to be a single group.

Chip Roy's group wants Congress to return to being a democratic body.

Matt Gaetz' group is just LARPing and just wants attention.

Osodecentx said:

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What are some of the demands of the 20?

Germaneness rule. Bills must address single subjects. Amendments that include other subjects would be subject to a point of order (no omnibus bills)
Calendar Wednesday , whereby any committee chairman can bring a bill straight to the floor (not subject to Rules Committee vote)
No proxy voting.
No virtual committee meetings.
72-hour rule to give members time to read legislation
A "cut go" rulerequiring any mandatory spending increases be offset with equal or greater mandatory spending cuts.
A three-fifths supermajority vote will be required for tax increases.

I like all of these, but with a closely divided House get ready for grid lock.

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All very reasonable and outrageous that they are not already adopted.

Harrison Bergeron said:

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There does not seem to be a single group.

Chip Roy's group wants Congress to return to being a democratic body.

Matt Gaetz' group is just LARPing and just wants attention.

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But if Gaetz' larping gets us the common sense rules that Roy wants then its a good thing.

I'm confused as to what the rebels want. They all (20) appear to be basically nut jobs with a couple of solid exceptions but I can't fault any of their demands.

On thing I've really cemented my mind on is the fact McCarthy is horrible and nowhere near the Representative he claim to be 10 years ago.

Anyone but Kevin.

Aliceinbubbleland said:

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I'm confused as to what the rebels want. They all (20) appear to be basically nut jobs with a couple of solid exceptions but I can't fault any of their demands.

On thing I've really cemented my mind on is the fact McCarthy is horrible and nowhere near the Representative he claim to be 10 years ago.

Anyone but Kevin.

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They don't trust McCarthy to follow through on any promises...because he is a liar....so it has come to this.

Its a good example of why you should not make a habit of lying to people.

It will come back to bite you.

Aliceinbubbleland said:

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I'm confused as to what the rebels want. They all (20) appear to be basically nut jobs with a couple of solid exceptions but I can't fault any of their demands.

On thing I've really cemented my mind on is the fact McCarthy is horrible and nowhere near the Representative he claim to be 10 years ago.

Anyone but Kevin.

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It's diverse. Seems like the Gaetz crew are nutty ... Roy actually wants to bring democracy back to the House.

I do not agree with his tactics, but he's using his leverage to move away from the authoritarianism that has plagued the body since Princess Stock Trade took over.

Osodecentx said:

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What are some of the demands of the 20?

Germaneness rule. Bills must address single subjects. Amendments that include other subjects would be subject to a point of order (no omnibus bills)
Calendar Wednesday , whereby any committee chairman can bring a bill straight to the floor (not subject to Rules Committee vote)
No proxy voting.
No virtual committee meetings.
72-hour rule to give members time to read legislation
A "cut go" rulerequiring any mandatory spending increases be offset with equal or greater mandatory spending cuts.
A three-fifths supermajority vote will be required for tax increases.

I like all of these, but with a closely divided House get ready for grid lock.

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I have always hated the way bills have so many riders attached to them that have nothing to do with the actual bill and then if a person wants to vote no due to a rider they get called out as against the original bill.

With such a slim majority Republicans won't get anything done.

Just 3-4 malcontents can freeze everything.

Dems get back the house in 2024 .



Game over .

cowboycwr said:

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Osodecentx said:

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What are some of the demands of the 20?

Germaneness rule. Bills must address single subjects. Amendments that include other subjects would be subject to a point of order (no omnibus bills)
Calendar Wednesday , whereby any committee chairman can bring a bill straight to the floor (not subject to Rules Committee vote)
No proxy voting.
No virtual committee meetings.
72-hour rule to give members time to read legislation
A "cut go" rulerequiring any mandatory spending increases be offset with equal or greater mandatory spending cuts.
A three-fifths supermajority vote will be required for tax increases.

I like all of these, but with a closely divided House get ready for grid lock.

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I have always hated the way bills have so many riders attached to them that have nothing to do with the actual bill and then if a person wants to vote no due to a rider they get called out as against the original bill.

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I agree. Germaneness rule would be good

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Game over .

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This reminds me of people talking about how their football team will be better next year while ignoring other teams also could get better.

Democrats are highly divided. They count on the votes of conservative minorities that don't subscribe to a lot of their core values.

ron.reagan said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Game over .

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This reminds me of people talking about how their football team will be better next year while ignoring other teams also could get better.

Democrats are highly divided. They count on the votes of conservative minorities that don't subscribe to a lot of their core values.

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Dems are tightly controlled......unlike Republicans .

Canada2017 said:

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ron.reagan said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Game over .

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This reminds me of people talking about how their football team will be better next year while ignoring other teams also could get better.

Democrats are highly divided. They count on the votes of conservative minorities that don't subscribe to a lot of their core values.

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Dems are tightly controlled......unlike Republicans .

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That and they know how to apply power.

Matt Gaetz and Jim Jorder are very punchable! just saying.

Agree with you on Gaetz. I like Jordan, especially when he and Maxine Waters go at it.

Osodecentx said:

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What are some of the demands of the 20?

Germaneness rule. Bills must address single subjects. Amendments that include other subjects would be subject to a point of order (no omnibus bills)
Calendar Wednesday , whereby any committee chairman can bring a bill straight to the floor (not subject to Rules Committee vote)
No proxy voting.
No virtual committee meetings.
72-hour rule to give members time to read legislation
A "cut go" rulerequiring any mandatory spending increases be offset with equal or greater mandatory spending cuts.
A three-fifths supermajority vote will be required for tax increases.

I like all of these, but with a closely divided House get ready for grid lock.

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Gridlock is what's best for us minions

Canada2017 said:

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ron.reagan said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Game over .

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This reminds me of people talking about how their football team will be better next year while ignoring other teams also could get better.

Democrats are highly divided. They count on the votes of conservative minorities that don't subscribe to a lot of their core values.

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Dems are tightly controlled......unlike Republicans .

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Some groups of people are more easily controlled than others

Way too many lawyers in congress. Ban all lawyers from serving in the house and senate. Just kidding, sort of.

Tempus Edax Rerum said:

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Way too many lawyers in congress. Ban all lawyers from serving in the house and senate. Just kidding, sort of.

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Like the guys that wrote the Constitution & Bill of Rights?