More reasons why Trump and RFK, Jr. are just plain stupid when it comes to vaccines

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Tempus Edax Rerum
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Short answer: no, the evidence doesn't support the idea that the current vaccine schedule overwhelms or "overloads" the immune system and this claim has been studied directly.

Why "too many vaccines" doesn't add up immunologically
Your immune system's capacity dwarfs the antigen exposure from vaccines by many orders of magnitude:

  • From the moment of birth, an infant's immune system is confronting thousands of new antigens daily just from normal life bacteria colonizing the gut, food proteins, environmental exposures. A single bacterial infection or even eating a meal introduces more distinct antigens than the entire childhood vaccine schedule combined.
  • Modern vaccines are also far more antigen-efficient than older ones. The entire recommended childhood vaccine schedule today contains a tiny fraction of the total antigens that were in the vaccines given decades ago (older whole-cell pertussis vaccine alone had more antigenic content than today's entire combined schedule), because vaccine technology has moved toward purified, targeted antigens rather than whole killed organisms.
  • Theoretical calculations (based on B-cell diversity and antibody-producing capacity) suggest a person could theoretically respond to thousands of vaccines simultaneously without exhausting immune capacity.
What actual research has found
This isn't just theoretical it's been tested directly:
  • Studies comparing children on the recommended schedule to children on delayed or spaced-out schedules have not found differences in immune-related outcomes (like susceptibility to non-targeted infections) that would suggest "overload."
  • Research has also looked specifically at whether multiple vaccines given at once increase adverse events compared to spacing them out, and hasn't found evidence supporting that concern for the standard schedule.
  • Institutions like the CDC, WHO, and AAP have reviewed this question multiple times as part of ongoing vaccine safety monitoring (VAERS, Vaccine Safety Datalink) and continue to find no signal supporting immune overload from the schedule.
Where legitimate nuance exists

  • Individual medical circumstances matter kids with certain immunodeficiencies or on immunosuppressive therapy may need modified schedules, which is a conversation with their own physician, not a general population concern.
  • Reasonable people can debate scheduling logistics, spacing preferences, or how information about vaccines is communicated to parents that's a separate question from the immunological "overload" claim, which doesn't hold up mechanistically or empirically.
RD2WINAGNBEAR86
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Who put a quarter in Millivanilli today? He is on a rampage!
Call it a tax, the people are outraged! Call it a tariff, the people get out their checkbooks and wave their American flags!!!
Danielsjackson114
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Good news is that you can flood your child with as many vaccines as possible while others are asked to take it easy
Mitch Blood Green
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Danielsjackson114 said:

Good news is that you can flood your child with as many vaccines as possible while others are asked to take it easy


Answer the question. Do you get tired?

J.R.
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Danielsjackson114 said:

Good news is that you can flood your child with as many vaccines as possible while others are asked to take it easy

why don't you let us with children worry about them. You won't have to worry about it as it is hard hard to impregnate a man!
Tempus Edax Rerum
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Mitch Blood Green said:

Danielsjackson114 said:

Good news is that you can flood your child with as many vaccines as possible while others are asked to take it easy


Answer the question. Do you get tired?



Ok, this cracks me up!
Mothra
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Tempus Edax Rerum said:

Short answer: no, the evidence doesn't support the idea that the current vaccine schedule overwhelms or "overloads" the immune system and this claim has been studied directly.

Why "too many vaccines" doesn't add up immunologically
Your immune system's capacity dwarfs the antigen exposure from vaccines by many orders of magnitude:

  • From the moment of birth, an infant's immune system is confronting thousands of new antigens daily just from normal life bacteria colonizing the gut, food proteins, environmental exposures. A single bacterial infection or even eating a meal introduces more distinct antigens than the entire childhood vaccine schedule combined.
  • Modern vaccines are also far more antigen-efficient than older ones. The entire recommended childhood vaccine schedule today contains a tiny fraction of the total antigens that were in the vaccines given decades ago (older whole-cell pertussis vaccine alone had more antigenic content than today's entire combined schedule), because vaccine technology has moved toward purified, targeted antigens rather than whole killed organisms.
  • Theoretical calculations (based on B-cell diversity and antibody-producing capacity) suggest a person could theoretically respond to thousands of vaccines simultaneously without exhausting immune capacity.
What actual research has found
This isn't just theoretical it's been tested directly:
  • Studies comparing children on the recommended schedule to children on delayed or spaced-out schedules have not found differences in immune-related outcomes (like susceptibility to non-targeted infections) that would suggest "overload."
  • Research has also looked specifically at whether multiple vaccines given at once increase adverse events compared to spacing them out, and hasn't found evidence supporting that concern for the standard schedule.
  • Institutions like the CDC, WHO, and AAP have reviewed this question multiple times as part of ongoing vaccine safety monitoring (VAERS, Vaccine Safety Datalink) and continue to find no signal supporting immune overload from the schedule.
Where legitimate nuance exists

  • Individual medical circumstances matter kids with certain immunodeficiencies or on immunosuppressive therapy may need modified schedules, which is a conversation with their own physician, not a general population concern.
  • Reasonable people can debate scheduling logistics, spacing preferences, or how information about vaccines is communicated to parents that's a separate question from the immunological "overload" claim, which doesn't hold up mechanistically or empirically.


ChatGTP is only as good as the data you put in, pin cushion.
cowboycwr
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I am not against vaccines, my children have gotten all of theirs (so far for their age), don't like that some parents are skipping all of them, but I also don't post about them constantly like Tempus.

Does he work for a medical company that makes them? Do research on them? Or is he just in love with them that much that he posts about them?

Yes that is a serious question. I don't get why all his posts on here seem to ONLY be about vaccines. I get that the Covid one was controversial but the others are only controversial to a fringe group IMO.
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