Who would have thought
Danielsjackson114 said:
Who would have thought
cowboycwr said:
Not our resident leftists who ALWAYS dismiss evidence of cheating as "small", not a "large scale problem," or an "isolated incident." but don't admit it is proof our elections are being cheated in EVERY time.
?quality=75&auto=avif&disable=upscale Danielsjackson114 said:
How tf is altering a ballot to manipulate voters/votes not fkn cheating?
Again, you are proving you are one of the dumbest posters on this board.. and for what? for liberalism?
Mitch Blood Green said:Danielsjackson114 said:
How tf is altering a ballot to manipulate voters/votes not fkn cheating?
Again, you are proving you are one of the dumbest posters on this board.. and for what? for liberalism?
You're using words I'm not sure you understand. "Altering the ballots?" "Manipulating voters?"
Neither of this happened. They recruited/supported another dude's candidacy. It's clear on the ballot which is which.
As you voter id folks like to say "stop treating republicans like they are dumb." (I'm sorry, I confused that with black voters when you throw roadblocks).
That ballot is clear. The person who can't see the difference may have actually intended to vote for Peltola but couldn't read.
gtownbear said:Mitch Blood Green said:Danielsjackson114 said:
How tf is altering a ballot to manipulate voters/votes not fkn cheating?
Again, you are proving you are one of the dumbest posters on this board.. and for what? for liberalism?
You're using words I'm not sure you understand. "Altering the ballots?" "Manipulating voters?"
Neither of this happened. They recruited/supported another dude's candidacy. It's clear on the ballot which is which.
As you voter id folks like to say "stop treating republicans like they are dumb." (I'm sorry, I confused that with black voters when you throw roadblocks).
That ballot is clear. The person who can't see the difference may have actually intended to vote for Peltola but couldn't read.
You are missing the point. The INTENTION was to deceive voters. The second Sullivan hated Trump and so would do anything to help get the democrat elected to help turn the senate. Let's see if he got paid for doing so.
gtownbear said:Mitch Blood Green said:Danielsjackson114 said:
How tf is altering a ballot to manipulate voters/votes not fkn cheating?
Again, you are proving you are one of the dumbest posters on this board.. and for what? for liberalism?
You're using words I'm not sure you understand. "Altering the ballots?" "Manipulating voters?"
Neither of this happened. They recruited/supported another dude's candidacy. It's clear on the ballot which is which.
As you voter id folks like to say "stop treating republicans like they are dumb." (I'm sorry, I confused that with black voters when you throw roadblocks).
That ballot is clear. The person who can't see the difference may have actually intended to vote for Peltola but couldn't read.
You are missing the point. The INTENTION was to deceive voters. The second Sullivan hated Trump and so would do anything to help get the democrat elected to help turn the senate. Let's see if he got paid for doing so.
From "Trust me I'm conservative, I just hate Trump!" to defending anything and everything democrats do...FLBear5630 said:gtownbear said:Mitch Blood Green said:Danielsjackson114 said:
How tf is altering a ballot to manipulate voters/votes not fkn cheating?
Again, you are proving you are one of the dumbest posters on this board.. and for what? for liberalism?
You're using words I'm not sure you understand. "Altering the ballots?" "Manipulating voters?"
Neither of this happened. They recruited/supported another dude's candidacy. It's clear on the ballot which is which.
As you voter id folks like to say "stop treating republicans like they are dumb." (I'm sorry, I confused that with black voters when you throw roadblocks).
That ballot is clear. The person who can't see the difference may have actually intended to vote for Peltola but couldn't read.
You are missing the point. The INTENTION was to deceive voters. The second Sullivan hated Trump and so would do anything to help get the democrat elected to help turn the senate. Let's see if he got paid for doing so.
I am confused, this is not illegal and happened before. This is ballot stacking. Where is the fraud? I dont think people understand what fraud means.
As for the paying of a candidate? It will depend on if they did and where the funds came. The GOP 2020 ghost candidate ( yes, GOP did this in FL twice, Wash state, etc...) in FL they used illegal money. The issue was campaign finance issue not the running of a ghost candidate which is protected under 1st Amendment
Mitch Blood Green said:cowboycwr said:
Not our resident leftists who ALWAYS dismiss evidence of cheating as "small", not a "large scale problem," or an "isolated incident." but don't admit it is proof our elections are being cheated in EVERY time.
This isn't cheating. It's ****ty politics. I don't like it.
Alaska has ranked choice voting. This is a head scratcher.
This is what the ballot looks like.?quality=75&auto=avif&disable=upscale
canoso said:Mitch Blood Green said:cowboycwr said:
Not our resident leftists who ALWAYS dismiss evidence of cheating as "small", not a "large scale problem," or an "isolated incident." but don't admit it is proof our elections are being cheated in EVERY time.
This isn't cheating. It's ****ty politics. I don't like it.
Alaska has ranked choice voting. This is a head scratcher.
This is what the ballot looks like.?quality=75&auto=avif&disable=upscale
So my question is whether the people who came up with the idea and evidently made it happen could be analyzed to see if they have two functioning neurons to rub together.
Harrison Bergeron said:
If Republicans had done this, the national left-wind media would be having histrionics and telling us how this keeps black and brown people from voting.
This is more than a dirty trick - it is actually a threat to democracy (which we thought the left was concerned about).
Put in the context of the fake hysteria over the Vivek ad just makes it worse.
And it is egregious in Alaska, but they're also doing similar things in several other states - recruiting Democrats to run as independents.
Mitch Blood Green said:gtownbear said:Mitch Blood Green said:Danielsjackson114 said:
How tf is altering a ballot to manipulate voters/votes not fkn cheating?
Again, you are proving you are one of the dumbest posters on this board.. and for what? for liberalism?
You're using words I'm not sure you understand. "Altering the ballots?" "Manipulating voters?"
Neither of this happened. They recruited/supported another dude's candidacy. It's clear on the ballot which is which.
As you voter id folks like to say "stop treating republicans like they are dumb." (I'm sorry, I confused that with black voters when you throw roadblocks).
That ballot is clear. The person who can't see the difference may have actually intended to vote for Peltola but couldn't read.
You are missing the point. The INTENTION was to deceive voters. The second Sullivan hated Trump and so would do anything to help get the democrat elected to help turn the senate. Let's see if he got paid for doing so.
I'm not missing that. I've said it's "****ty" politics. I don't like it.
I despise ALL efforts to reduce voter participation and to deceive voters.
HuMcK said:
"If Republicans had done this..."
Republican PACs are currently the main source of support for a candidate with the same last name as the Dem in the Nevada governor's race, I'm sure that's totally innocent. Republicans literally did the same thing as this in Florida in 2024, where their guy won by less than 40 votes (the plant candidate got a couple thousand).
I personally think it's hilarious, listening to all the shameless hypocrites wail about it without even a hint of self reflection is pure comedy, and the ranked choice voting in Alaska makes it a non-issue anyway.
Frank Galvin said:Harrison Bergeron said:
If Republicans had done this, the national left-wind media would be having histrionics and telling us how this keeps black and brown people from voting.
This is more than a dirty trick - it is actually a threat to democracy (which we thought the left was concerned about).
Put in the context of the fake hysteria over the Vivek ad just makes it worse.
And it is egregious in Alaska, but they're also doing similar things in several other states - recruiting Democrats to run as independents.
If by "done this," you mean trying to confuse voters about the authenticity of the people behind the positions, then I am sure that you are upset that the Republican Women's Club is trying to confuse voters on the trans issue. Oh wait, on that thread you don't see an issue.
I get that politics is a blood sport. Candidates and advocates will go too far. The Alaska Senate campaign and the Trans mailer are both examples of "going too far." They are also both out in the open. Voters can decide how much weight they give to the bad conduct.
Danielsjackson114 said:
You gotta admit that your party is nasty and evil when it comes to literally anything
Liberalism is frying your poor brain
Harrison Bergeron said:Frank Galvin said:Harrison Bergeron said:
If Republicans had done this, the national left-wind media would be having histrionics and telling us how this keeps black and brown people from voting.
This is more than a dirty trick - it is actually a threat to democracy (which we thought the left was concerned about).
Put in the context of the fake hysteria over the Vivek ad just makes it worse.
And it is egregious in Alaska, but they're also doing similar things in several other states - recruiting Democrats to run as independents.
If by "done this," you mean trying to confuse voters about the authenticity of the people behind the positions, then I am sure that you are upset that the Republican Women's Club is trying to confuse voters on the trans issue. Oh wait, on that thread you don't see an issue.
I get that politics is a blood sport. Candidates and advocates will go too far. The Alaska Senate campaign and the Trans mailer are both examples of "going too far." They are also both out in the open. Voters can decide how much weight they give to the bad conduct.
1. There is a difference between interfering with democracy and dirty campaigning.
2. You do not know who sent the trans mailer.
3. What problem do you have with it? It is not like it misrepresented the Democratic position. It literally was a printed version of the organizations web site with actual links. So what umbrage do you take with it - that Democrat positions might come to light?
Do you support interfering with democracy by confusion voters on the ballot?
Frank Galvin said:Harrison Bergeron said:Frank Galvin said:Harrison Bergeron said:
If Republicans had done this, the national left-wind media would be having histrionics and telling us how this keeps black and brown people from voting.
This is more than a dirty trick - it is actually a threat to democracy (which we thought the left was concerned about).
Put in the context of the fake hysteria over the Vivek ad just makes it worse.
And it is egregious in Alaska, but they're also doing similar things in several other states - recruiting Democrats to run as independents.
If by "done this," you mean trying to confuse voters about the authenticity of the people behind the positions, then I am sure that you are upset that the Republican Women's Club is trying to confuse voters on the trans issue. Oh wait, on that thread you don't see an issue.
I get that politics is a blood sport. Candidates and advocates will go too far. The Alaska Senate campaign and the Trans mailer are both examples of "going too far." They are also both out in the open. Voters can decide how much weight they give to the bad conduct.
1. There is a difference between interfering with democracy and dirty campaigning.
2. You do not know who sent the trans mailer.
3. What problem do you have with it? It is not like it misrepresented the Democratic position. It literally was a printed version of the organizations web site with actual links. So what umbrage do you take with it - that Democrat positions might come to light?
Do you support interfering with democracy by confusion voters on the ballot?
I have explained at least three times why it is the trans mailer was clearly sent by a right wing organizationa and why it was wrong. You just keep saying, "but nobody will explain." You are hopeless.