Canada2017 said:
D. C. Bear said:
Canada2017 said:
cowboycwr said:
Canada2017 said:
cowboycwr said:
Canada2017 said:
cowboycwr said:
Canada2017 said:
4th and Inches said:
Harrison Bergeron said:
The HMS Dreadnaught revolutionized naval warfare and arguably led to World War I, the most defining event of the 20th Century.
The USS Texas is the last remaining dreadnaught.
Canada dont care.. everybody can just go to pearl
'Canada ' toured the USS Texas ….did you ?
Meanwhile who could seriously disagree that going to Pearl Harbor …touring the deck plate on the USS Missouri where Japan signed their surrender documents ending WW2 isn't the better choice ?
Especially since from the Missouri one can see the wreck of the USS Arizona …..representing the beginning of our involvement in WW2.
Oahu isn't much to bother with truth be known . But Pearl Harbor is amazing .
Lol. This response is so out of touch. It is on par with the "buy an electric car if gas is expensive" mentality.
Growing up my family could not afford a trip to Hawaii. But living in the Houston area we could afford a drive for the day to see the Texas and seawolf.
We could afford a short trip to corpus for the Lexington.
As much as we wanted we could not visit Pearl Harbor.
Having multiple ships around the country of all classes gives people lots of opportunities to visit carriers, battleships, destroyers, subs, etc.
They are a piece of history whether they are the most successful carrier of ww2 or one that was built after the war. Whether it was an escort ship or a front line battleship with several kills.
But going by your rating system few battleships would fit that as they saw so little action and chances to take out enemy ships.
Having the Texas is having a piece of history.
The USS Texas is a piece of 'history ' very few people bother to pay the price of admission to see .
Otherwise the state wouldn't have to periodically dump millions of dollars into the rusting hulk .
Most folks simply don't care .
And in reality there is nothing but the nameplate to care about.
Not exactly a huge record or big deal that the piece of paper that officially ended the war was signed on its deck.
Perfect.
The entire Allied command structure meeting with representatives of the Japanese Empire to sign the documents finally ending the last segment of the bloodiest war in human history . Not a 'big deal ' at all .
Gotta luv the internet .
The document is the important part. Not the spot it was signed.
Did we keep the table it was signed on?
The table cloth on top of that table?
The microphone used to talk into?
Why are those not important but the spot where those sat so that the paper could be signed is important?
Why is the building, table, etc. that ended the European part of the war not a monument or museum or anything?
LOL .......in fact that are several artifacts that have been kept from the surrender involving the European part of WW2...... and WW1 for that matter . Google is your friend , look them up.
In addition ....the USS Missouri earned 11 battle stars fighting not only in WW2 but the Korean War and Desert Storm as well.
And at least one website has described the USS Missouri as ' the most historical battleship in the world '.
Of course none of this will matter to you.....pertinent information has never altered your opinion on anything .
"And at least one website has described the USS Missouri as ' the most historical battleship in the world '" has got to be the funniest attempt at an argument I have seen in quite a while.
In any case the USS Missouri's combat career spanned over 3 wars as well as constant patrols in the Middle East ( between various wars ) with her 16 inch guns constantly trained on the missile batteries of potential Muslim enemies .
I have toured both the USS Texas and USS Missouri .......no doubt you have done the same .
There is no comparison between the two ships ......either historically .....or in combat records .
Despite its location in ' distant ' Hawaii....... the Missouri pulls in far more visitors....and generates far more money for its own upkeep . There are clear cut reasons for this .
USS Texas needs to either pay its own way ( finally ) or be scrapped.
There is value in learning history and value in honoring the sacrifices of previous generations. The
Texas is unique as the last Dreadnaught and the first battleship to be made in to a museum. It is not unique in that there are numerous other battleships successfully operating as museums, many of them without the advantage of being at Pearl Harbor, where the more compelling memorials are to the battle ships
Arizona and
Utah which lie beneath the water rather than above it.
There are, indeed, very clear cut reasons for the higher number of visitors to the
Missouri. To get to the
Missouri, you just have to be visiting one of the most important sites in US history which also happens to be a major international tourist attraction (Pearl Harbor). If you took the
Missouri away, it wouldn't change the tourist traffic all that much if any. To get to the
Texas you had to drive through a bunch of oil refineries and the only other thing to see was the San Jacinto monument, and some giant mosquitoes (despite the fact that it is also one of the most important sites in US history, the setting is not one to attract a huge number of visitors). If you stuck the
Texas in Pearl and the
Missouri in a berth by the ship channel, the visitor numbers would be reversed. If you stick the
Texas in a better location, which is what they are planning to, it will, like the half dozen or so other battleship museum ships,
do just fine in attracting visitors.
