Lack of interest or is everyone out for the summer. This is one of my prime time favorites every four years.

Aliceinbubbleland said:

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Lack of interest or is everyone out for the summer. This is one of my prime time favorites every four years.

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I love watching the track and field, both the men and women. Not much interested in the other stuff.

I crack up watching Rugby and I really like to watch swimming and diving and can't wait for basketball. The wife hogs the remote though watching the gymnists.

I was just looking for that. Pickleball is in this year, isnt it?

Simone Biles wins another Gold. Thats six for her career. Not too bad

Politics raises its ugly head when ****** male (I thik that's the term) fought against a woman in boxing. ***?

LOL t r a n n y is censored on this absolutely dead conversational board.

Aliceinbubbleland said:

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LOL t r a n n y is censored on this absolutely dead conversational board.

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***** is a dirty word and gets censored but not vagina. What's up with that?

I think there is some dispute tonight about his/her/its/pronoun the person may be. I think the French are selling it's a woman.

There is no doubt which gender Simone Biles maybe other than GOLD!

Olympics are gonna have to either slam the door on these guys nuts or face a hell of a lot of lawsuits from actual women. Its a disaster!

I read a conversation about this. Apparently the person is female but has the XY chromosome. Therefore, she ends up with more testosterone than XX women. Supposedly, not actually trans. If all that's true, it creates kind of a tough situation. She does have an advantage, but if she has, and always has had, the right equipment, how do you discriminate against her?

Petty simple test would be pull the pants down and take a look.

Sex and gender aren't the same thing. Here, we're talking about a person's sex.
What you have on the outside of your body isn't your genetic sex.

Most of us are familiar with the "XX" or "XY" chromosome pairings (called karyotypes). Those are by far the most common. However, three other "fairly common" karyotypes exist "XXY" "XXXY" and "XYYY". Other combinations are found, but are rare. Most of these combinations will also produce what could be called a "birth defect".

In most instances, these anomalies are wholly unremarkable. However, in sport, they can cause an outwardly appearing "female" (and a person who's comfortable being female, and represents themselves as female) to also have increased muscle fiber and hormones capable of developing that muscle fiber more akin to what a male would have.

Without considering social acceptance, this would be cause to consider competitive balance. The current standard is a testosterone level tests - one that doesn't accuse the athlete of artificially enhancing themselves, but sets a predetermined level of acceptable natural testosterone for competition in the female class.

It isn't an easy question.

Mr Tulip said:

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Sex and gender aren't the same thing. Here, we're talking about a person's sex.
What you have on the outside of your body isn't your genetic sex.

Most of us are familiar with the "XX" or "XY" chromosome pairings (called karyotypes). Those are by far the most common. However, three other "fairly common" karyotypes exist "XXY" "XXXY" and "XYYY". Other combinations are found, but are rare. Most of these combinations will also produce what could be called a "birth defect".

In most instances, these anomalies are wholly unremarkable. However, in sport, they can cause an outwardly appearing "female" (and a person who's comfortable being female, and represents themselves as female) to also have increased muscle fiber and hormones capable of developing that muscle fiber more akin to what a male would have.

Without considering social acceptance, this would be cause to consider competitive balance. The current standard is a testosterone level tests - one that doesn't accuse the athlete of artificially enhancing themselves, but sets a predetermined level of acceptable natural testosterone for competition in the female class.

It isn't an easy question.

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Those combinations that you mention are so rare, there is very little chance that they are in the Olympics. Use the chromosome test and it one of those show up, then send it to committee for review.

Trans in the Olympics...

NEW: French pole vaulter Anthony Ammirati fails to medal after his "manhood" knocked the bar over.

Ammiarti was trying to clear the 5.70m bar.

Ammirati had cleared two heights before the unfortunate situation messed him up.

He may have lost the competition, but Ammiarati is… pic.twitter.com/JQdJu1fRqF

— Collin Rugg (@CollinRugg) August 3, 2024

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Mr Tulip said:

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Sex and gender aren't the same thing. Here, we're talking about a person's sex.
What you have on the outside of your body isn't your genetic sex.

Most of us are familiar with the "XX" or "XY" chromosome pairings (called karyotypes). Those are by far the most common. However, three other "fairly common" karyotypes exist "XXY" "XXXY" and "XYYY". Other combinations are found, but are rare. Most of these combinations will also produce what could be called a "birth defect".

In most instances, these anomalies are wholly unremarkable. However, in sport, they can cause an outwardly appearing "female" (and a person who's comfortable being female, and represents themselves as female) to also have increased muscle fiber and hormones capable of developing that muscle fiber more akin to what a male would have.

Without considering social acceptance, this would be cause to consider competitive balance. The current standard is a testosterone level tests - one that doesn't accuse the athlete of artificially enhancing themselves, but sets a predetermined level of acceptable natural testosterone for competition in the female class.

It isn't an easy question.

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Those combinations that you mention are so rare, there is very little chance that they are in the Olympics. Use the chromosome test and it one of those show up, then send it to committee for review.

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Every athlete in the Olympics is "rare". That's why they're there. If the rest of us had a shot, it wouldn't be interesting. It'd be a church social carnival (which, to be fair, can be "interesting" as well).

A "superfemale" (to abuse terms) genetic configuration can give you outward female sex anatomy, but build muscles and hormones like a male. This boxer will meet any non-genetic definition you care to state. I suspect the broader question is whether competitive balance is distorted by including these genetic anomalies in the female category. Since it wouldn't be fair to include them in the male division, it's a rough question.

My tits are bigger than the female swimmers

Aliceinbubbleland said:

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My tits are bigger than the female swimmers

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When I was training scuba divers at Texas, we'd obviously be in the presence of the prodigious swim teams. The guys were all built with triangular bodies - large shoulders and narrow waists. When you're wearing a wetsuit, which rolls any fat you have on you (and I had/have plenty) into neat little inner-tube circles around you, it can be intimidating.

The girls all had largely the same rounded shapes you're seeing at the Olympics. I had several friends on the swim team. One vouched that women would sort of undergo a mammalian phenomenon where those who spent so much time in the water would see their fat layers round out into smooth curves. They were all crazy hyper-athletic, but sported a dolphin-like physique.

Also, the newer swimsuits are really, really constricting by design. All the muscles get supported by the suit (not good if you're training, but helpful if you're looking to expend all your energy in competition). They're designed to render the wearer neutrally buoyant (you float near the surface without trying).

They're also waterproof. The athletes don't have to tow a wet suit through the water!

Anyone hear about the swimming part of the triathlon?

I knew the Brazos wasn't that bad

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Anyone hear about the swimming part of the triathlon?

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I heard one of the Belgians had to drop out due to a case of what the French call "Les Squirts".

Mr Tulip said:

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Assassin said:

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Mr Tulip said:

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Sex and gender aren't the same thing. Here, we're talking about a person's sex.
What you have on the outside of your body isn't your genetic sex.

Most of us are familiar with the "XX" or "XY" chromosome pairings (called karyotypes). Those are by far the most common. However, three other "fairly common" karyotypes exist "XXY" "XXXY" and "XYYY". Other combinations are found, but are rare. Most of these combinations will also produce what could be called a "birth defect".

In most instances, these anomalies are wholly unremarkable. However, in sport, they can cause an outwardly appearing "female" (and a person who's comfortable being female, and represents themselves as female) to also have increased muscle fiber and hormones capable of developing that muscle fiber more akin to what a male would have.

Without considering social acceptance, this would be cause to consider competitive balance. The current standard is a testosterone level tests - one that doesn't accuse the athlete of artificially enhancing themselves, but sets a predetermined level of acceptable natural testosterone for competition in the female class.

It isn't an easy question.

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Those combinations that you mention are so rare, there is very little chance that they are in the Olympics. Use the chromosome test and it one of those show up, then send it to committee for review.

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Every athlete in the Olympics is "rare". That's why they're there. If the rest of us had a shot, it wouldn't be interesting. It'd be a church social carnival (which, to be fair, can be "interesting" as well).

A "superfemale" (to abuse terms) genetic configuration can give you outward female sex anatomy, but build muscles and hormones like a male. This boxer will meet any non-genetic definition you care to state. I suspect the broader question is whether competitive balance is distorted by including these genetic anomalies in the female category. Since it wouldn't be fair to include them in the male division, it's a rough question.

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However it is not fair to the other competitors to include them in the female divisions whatsoever. We just saw what could happen, and did. My hope if that some of these female competitors sue the Olympics for everything that they have. Force this issue.

Great story out there about pole vault gold medalist Mondo Duplantis. Native of Louisiana but competed for Sweden. His mother is Swedish.

They explained he breaks his record by centimeters as he is paid $50k every time he breaks a world record by major track meets. He keeps breaking records and collecting bank. He admits he could break his record by inches rather than centimeters but the pay incentive keeps him in check.

My favorite track athlete - the GOAT does it again! Not even close.

Sydney McLaughlin-Levrone broke her own world record in the women's 400m hurdles for the SIXTH time 👑 pic.twitter.com/mzuKKd6apo

— ESPN (@espn) August 8, 2024

¡1-2 PARA ESTADOS UNIDOS! 💥🇺🇸

🥇Sydney McLaughlin-Levrone gana el oro e impone récord mundial en 400m vallas femenino con un tiempo de 50.37, seguida de Anna Cockrell🥈de @TeamUSA.

Femke Bol de Países Bajos 🇳🇱 se queda con bronce🥉#OlimpicosTelemundo #ParisOlympics pic.twitter.com/7uADcLGJaz

— Telemundo Deportes (@TelemundoSports) August 8, 2024

With this gold medal, she becomes the first American to defend gold in an individual track event since Michael Johnson's back-to-back 400m golds in 1996 and 2000.

US sprinter Sydney McLaughlin-Levrone sets a world record en route to gold for America in the women's 400m hurdles at the Olympics.pic.twitter.com/xgXrfXEEX4

— The American Conservative (@amconmag) August 8, 2024

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My favorite track athlete - the GOAT does it again! Not even close.

¡1-2 PARA ESTADOS UNIDOS! 💥🇺🇸

🥇Sydney McLaughlin-Levrone gana el oro e impone récord mundial en 400m vallas femenino con un tiempo de 50.37, seguida de Anna Cockrell🥈de @TeamUSA.

Femke Bol de Países Bajos 🇳🇱 se queda con bronce🥉#OlimpicosTelemundo #ParisOlympics pic.twitter.com/7uADcLGJaz

— Telemundo Deportes (@TelemundoSports) August 8, 2024

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something I could never do, not for lack of trying. Seemed like my foot was always firmly planted in the middle of the hurdle board. And yes, it could hurt like the dickens when it jumped back off the track and bit ya!

Definitely a skill. Congrats to her. USA!!!

She beat 2nd place by 1.5 seconds.

She beat 8th place by FOUR seconds.

Femke Bol is an amazing runner but she just flailed out at the end.

I swear, close your eyes and listen. You'd convince yourself that MICKY MOUSE just won GOLD at @Olympics

She's "Femke Bol" Led the Netherlands To a sensational Gold medal in the mixed 4x400m Relay final and Stunned the Team USA at the 2024 Paris Olympics 2024 defeating the… pic.twitter.com/zKqNSQhzNu

— Andrews MemeMania (@Andrew_memes2) August 4, 2024

Assassin said:

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I swear, close your eyes and listen. You'd convince yourself that MICKY MOUSE just won GOLD at @Olympics

She's "Femke Bol" Led the Netherlands To a sensational Gold medal in the mixed 4x400m Relay final and Stunned the Team USA at the 2024 Paris Olympics 2024 defeating the… pic.twitter.com/zKqNSQhzNu

— Andrews MemeMania (@Andrew_memes2) August 4, 2024

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I assume she's no relation to Manute Bol....

"It's not at all what I wanted" - Dutchwoman Femke Bol won bronze in the
women's 400m hurdles but gave an honest assessment of her performance afterwards to @DavidGillick #RTEsport #Paris2024 pic.twitter.com/pHI9gQbmhR

— RTÉ Sport (@RTEsport) August 8, 2024

Femke Bol is UNREAL. 😲

She takes GOLD for the Netherlands in the mixed 4x400m relay with a STELLAR 47.93s anchor leg. #ParisOlympics

📺: NBC, USA Network & Peacock pic.twitter.com/44cnSwomUt

— NBC Olympics & Paralympics (@NBCOlympics) August 3, 2024

Track and Field, man.
The absolute best.

On day one of the World Championships, Femke Bol stumbled and fell face down within 20m of the finish line and lost her country a gold medal.

On the last night, she does this.

Incredible.
https://t.co/GdBArsBcLh

— Tim Fritson (@TimFritson) August 27, 2023

whitetrash said:

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Assassin said:

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I swear, close your eyes and listen. You'd convince yourself that MICKY MOUSE just won GOLD at @Olympics

She's "Femke Bol" Led the Netherlands To a sensational Gold medal in the mixed 4x400m Relay final and Stunned the Team USA at the 2024 Paris Olympics 2024 defeating the… pic.twitter.com/zKqNSQhzNu

— Andrews MemeMania (@Andrew_memes2) August 4, 2024

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I assume she's no relation to Manute Bol....

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I dont know, they do have some resemblance. Both very tall for their sports