Jury Duty

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Oldbear83
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I did my civic duty again this week, as I came up for Jury Duty. As many of us know, Jury Duty is that experience in which one takes time off from their regular life to appear in person at the Courthouse of their City or County as summoned, in hopes of providing peer representation for plaintiffs, defendants, accused and of course lawyers lots and lots of lawyers.

The actual experience, of course, is waiting, filling out various forms, a great amount of standing in lines, then waiting some more before being seated in a courtroom for voir dire. Voir dire, of course, is the phrase which stands for annoying lawyers by being honest and therefore not fitting their model of the ideal juror. It's also my favorite part of process.

Without going into the specifics which are protected by the court rules, the case I sat on was a civil case, and like so many other civil cases, this was one where someone could reasonably find valid points and false claims on both sides. This was also a case where typical biases played a role, including Racism, Greed, A David vs Goliath scenario, and of course the emotional experiences of the jurors themselves.

Both lawyers mentioned Bias in their remarks, and asked jurors if they could put aside their biases for the case. This was a point of amusement for me, because the plaintiff's attorney made an analogy for sports, where the opinionated fan is not qualified to be an official because of their bias. I was amused because officials do employ bias in their judgment, sometimes unintentionally but also because of what my chapters taught us about relevant bias. For example, one year in football Sealy and Waller had a conflict at the end of the game which led to a fight on the field between both teams. My crew got the game the next year, and we made a point of speaking about the prior year's incident to both coaches ahead of the game. While we were not assuming there would be a fight or that the prior year's incident would lead to a repeat situation this time, we made sure to forestall that possibility by warning both coaches that any provocative behavior would be harshly punished to prevent it blowing up into a fight. This is one example of how bias can serve a useful purpose, and it applies to legal disputes as well.

It also happens that this week was declared Juror Appreciation Week by the Harris County Commissioners, which meant there were door prizes. Ballet tickets, a gift card, t shirts celebrating jury duty and a swag bag were given out in each of the juror assembly rooms; 5 winners out of 225 jurors. The gift card would have been nice, not really sad about missing out on the others.

Turned out there was another old umpire in our panel. We passed the time during breaks with some old war stories, so all in all not a bad day.

Anyone else been on a jury recently?
LIB,MR BEARS
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It's been a while but, here is what I learned.

I was very busy with work and being on a jury was the last thing I wanted (ya, me and everyone else).

I ended up on the jury. The guy already plead guilty but wanted a jury to sentence him, not the judge.

We hear all the details, get read our instructions and are sent to the jury room to pick a foreman. We sit, and sit, and sit.

I get more and more antsy as we accomplish nothing. Finally I speak up and say "they told us to pick a foreman ." Before the sentence is out of my mouth a guy on the other side of the table says "You seem to know what needs to happen. I nominate you."

"I second the motion. All in favor" from the guy next to him.

I was elected 11-0 in about 5 seconds.

If you have zero interest in being a foreman, close your mouth. Keep it closed.
Mr Tulip
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LIB,MR BEARS said:

It's been a while but, here is what I learned.

I was very busy with work and being on a jury was the last thing I wanted (ya, me and everyone else).

I ended up on the jury. The guy already plead guilty but wanted a jury to sentence him, not the judge.

We hear all the details, get read our instructions and are sent to the jury room to pick a foreman. We sit, and sit, and sit.

I get more and more antsy as we accomplish nothing. Finally I speak up and say "they told us to pick a foreman ." Before the sentence is out of my mouth a guy on the other side of the table says "You seem to know what needs to happen. I nominate you."

"I second the motion. All in favor" from the guy next to him.

I was elected 11-0 in about 5 seconds.

If you have zero interest in being a foreman, close your mouth. Keep it closed.


I would assume that playground rules apply?

It should be chosen by someone saying, "We need to pick a foreperson...1,2,3, NOT IT!!!".
The last person to say "not it" is the foreperson?

Failing that, I believe "One potato, two potato" is still an acceptable substitute in most counties.
LIB,MR BEARS
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Mr Tulip said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

It's been a while but, here is what I learned.

I was very busy with work and being on a jury was the last thing I wanted (ya, me and everyone else).

I ended up on the jury. The guy already plead guilty but wanted a jury to sentence him, not the judge.

We hear all the details, get read our instructions and are sent to the jury room to pick a foreman. We sit, and sit, and sit.

I get more and more antsy as we accomplish nothing. Finally I speak up and say "they told us to pick a foreman ." Before the sentence is out of my mouth a guy on the other side of the table says "You seem to know what needs to happen. I nominate you."

"I second the motion. All in favor" from the guy next to him.

I was elected 11-0 in about 5 seconds.

If you have zero interest in being a foreman, close your mouth. Keep it closed.


I would assume that playground rules apply?

It should be chosen by someone saying, "We need to pick a foreperson...1,2,3, NOT IT!!!".
The last person to say "not it" is the foreperson?

Failing that, I believe "One potato, two potato" is still an acceptable substitute in most counties.

I wish I would have had this advice sooner.



william
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LIB,MR BEARS said:

It's been a while but, here is what I learned.

I was very busy with work and being on a jury was the last thing I wanted (ya, me and everyone else).

I ended up on the jury. The guy already plead guilty but wanted a jury to sentence him, not the judge.

We hear all the details, get read our instructions and are sent to the jury room to pick a foreman. We sit, and sit, and sit.

I get more and more antsy as we accomplish nothing. Finally I speak up and say "they told us to pick a foreman ." Before the sentence is out of my mouth a guy on the other side of the table says "You seem to know what needs to happen. I nominate you."

"I second the motion. All in favor" from the guy next to him.

I was elected 11-0 in about 5 seconds.

If you have zero interest in being a foreman, close your mouth. Keep it closed.


take notes.

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- el UF

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cowboycwr
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Several years ago I was on a jury for a case that never should have been. It was a waste of time, taxpayer money and a sham of a case. It was a DUI case. However, it was some of the worst police work (and I support the police) and seemed more like a lazy attempt to collect money via DUI tickets or something.

Basically it came down to this.... the breathalyzer didn't happen (I forget why but it wasn't a driver refusal), the officer conducted a field sobriety test and the driver failed but none of the marks for failure showed up on video. He walked the line fine, stood on one leg fine, but the officer said he failed for going to "slow" on the alphabet backwards part and his eyes were dilated and not following the pen.

No blood test was done back at jail.

The officer also gave "evidence" that had nothing to do with being drunk like "the driver's music was loud" and while waiting on the officer he sat on his back bumper of his truck or leaned against his pickup. In the jury room we talked about how those are things many of us do when standing next to our truck talking in our driveway.

We found him not guilty.

After the trial the young assistant DA (looked like he just finished school) asked to talk to us about why we went not guilty. I shared the above stuff about how loud music has nothing to do with DUI as well as the other stuff about sitting on the bumper/leaning against the truck. Also the lack of dashcam video of the truck supposedly swerving as to the reason the officer pulled him over. There was video but there was no swerving... maybe a little slight hugging the lane line but not typical drunk driving swerving.

In the end it seemed none of us were convinced the driver was driving drunk, a little tired maybe as he worked like a 14 hour shift or something as shown by time clock records and driving distance from his work to spot he was pulled over. He was pulled over in about the time it would take to drive from his work to that spot. ( I think 5 extra minutes). So it was a quick deliberation and not guilty verdict.

When I asked why they didn't do a blood test he gave some BS answer about there not being a judge available and they didn't know if they could get a nurse to draw the blood. I found this unlikely as the driver was pulled over on a Friday night.... so McLennan county doesn't have a judge on standby for warrants late at night for blood draws?

So like I said just a bad case all around and a waste.
LIB,MR BEARS
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I understand there's a movie coming out about a jury entitled 12 antsy and apathetic taxpayers.

It's loosely based off of this one
El Oso
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Served on a jury roughly a year ago. Sex trafficking case. I was elected foreman without saying a word. We got back in the jury room, and this lady looked at me and said you just have the aura of the person we need to guide us through what we have to do. Everone else said we get that same vibe. An hour later we had a verdict. Sentencing phase lasted about 90 minutes. 45 minutes later we had a prison term.

Bring your patience. It's a very slow process.

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