Robert Wilson said:

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Art_E_Guinn said:

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Robert Wilson said:

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I just did not like the way a lot of people over there acted. Bunch of mids talking down on others. Made me understand why my grad school buddies from other schools carried a particular stereotype about Baylor people.

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do you not realize that YOU are the stereotype your "grad school buddies" were talking about.

you're doing the exact thing you're accusing others of. you complain about them talking down to others then you proceed to talk down to the entire group by calling them "mids," then you to try to boost your own ego by casually mentioning that you went to grad school (congrats, so did nearly everyone else).

a normal person would say "my buddies who went to other schools" because everyone has friends who went to other schools. plus i'd assume that, among the friends/acquaintances you know who attended other schools, you met the majority of them somewhere other than grad school.

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So you and your full grown adult buddies from other schools talk about college kid stereotypes?

And you think going to grad school is impressive?

I can see why you would think this is all the same thing.

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no, i made it blatantly clear that going to grad school isn't impressive.

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(congrats, so did nearly everyone else).

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if you're a grown adult going around calling people "mids," i'd assume that you're the type who would probably talk about college stereotypes. you're doing it right here on a message board.

i understand the point you're trying to get at in the original post. i think there are bits of truth in it. i just think the way in which you expressed it served as a confirmation of that stereotype.

Pecos 45 said:

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Art_E_Guinn said:

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Robert Wilson said:

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I just did not like the way a lot of people over there acted. Bunch of mids talking down on others. Made me understand why my grad school buddies from other schools carried a particular stereotype about Baylor people.

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do you not realize that YOU are the stereotype your "grad school buddies" were talking about.

you're doing the exact thing you're accusing others of. you complain about them talking down to others then you proceed to talk down to the entire group by calling them "mids," then you to try to boost your own ego by casually mentioning that you went to grad school (congrats, so did nearly everyone else).

a normal person would say "my buddies who went to other schools" because everyone has friends who went to other schools. plus i'd assume that, among the friends/acquaintances you know who attended other schools, you met the majority of them somewhere other than grad school.

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I didn't go to grad school.
Does that make me sub-optimal?

PS Undergraduate school (four-year degree) was good enough for me.

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i'd say that it's probably wiser to go to trade school these days than it is to go to grad school. so, no.

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TenBears said:

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How do I get to be a "mid"? After much thought and prayer I ponied up for premium. It's OK, though I rarely look at it in the offseason.

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Check out the realignment threads

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Yes sir. That is good information. No question about it.

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woosh

TellMeYouLoveMe said:

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Pecos 45 said:

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Art_E_Guinn said:

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Robert Wilson said:

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I just did not like the way a lot of people over there acted. Bunch of mids talking down on others. Made me understand why my grad school buddies from other schools carried a particular stereotype about Baylor people.

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do you not realize that YOU are the stereotype your "grad school buddies" were talking about.

you're doing the exact thing you're accusing others of. you complain about them talking down to others then you proceed to talk down to the entire group by calling them "mids," then you to try to boost your own ego by casually mentioning that you went to grad school (congrats, so did nearly everyone else).

a normal person would say "my buddies who went to other schools" because everyone has friends who went to other schools. plus i'd assume that, among the friends/acquaintances you know who attended other schools, you met the majority of them somewhere other than grad school.

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I didn't go to grad school.
Does that make me sub-optimal?

PS Undergraduate school (four-year degree) was good enough for me.

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i went to grad school. Twice. If I crank out a thesis, I'd have a Ph.d. That's in addition to an undergrad program that put me at 140 hours for just a bachelor's degree.

I share that because IMO it was a huge waste of time. I could have done two years post high school and then an intense 18 month post undergrad and been just fine. My money is earned on things you can find in a book that is sold on Amazon for like $40.

My advice to any kid that will listen is...travel. And learn some tech skills.

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my point had nothing to do with the value of attending grad school. you may notice, though, that there's a large contingent of people with advanced degrees who DO see 4-year grads as suboptimal.

that was my point.

Art_E_Guinn said:

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TenBears said:

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TenBears said:

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How do I get to be a "mid"? After much thought and prayer I ponied up for premium. It's OK, though I rarely look at it in the offseason.

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Check out the realignment threads

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Yes sir. That is good information. No question about it.

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woosh

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Sicem has some guys getting great information. I'm really enjoying it

There certainly is some comparison between our behaviors. It's apparent. They were judgmental of everyone they viewed as being outside of their tribe, and I'm judging them for being nowhere nearly as impressive as they think they are and a-holes to boot. If you're saying I'm also a judgmental a-hole, fair enough. I'd rather hang out with the rabble than the ones putting on airs. And that is where my snobbery comes in ... the real badasses don't act that way.

Art_E_Guinn said:

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TellMeYouLoveMe said:

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Pecos 45 said:

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Art_E_Guinn said:

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Robert Wilson said:

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I just did not like the way a lot of people over there acted. Bunch of mids talking down on others. Made me understand why my grad school buddies from other schools carried a particular stereotype about Baylor people.

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do you not realize that YOU are the stereotype your "grad school buddies" were talking about.

you're doing the exact thing you're accusing others of. you complain about them talking down to others then you proceed to talk down to the entire group by calling them "mids," then you to try to boost your own ego by casually mentioning that you went to grad school (congrats, so did nearly everyone else).

a normal person would say "my buddies who went to other schools" because everyone has friends who went to other schools. plus i'd assume that, among the friends/acquaintances you know who attended other schools, you met the majority of them somewhere other than grad school.

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I didn't go to grad school.
Does that make me sub-optimal?

PS Undergraduate school (four-year degree) was good enough for me.

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i went to grad school. Twice. If I crank out a thesis, I'd have a Ph.d. That's in addition to an undergrad program that put me at 140 hours for just a bachelor's degree.

I share that because IMO it was a huge waste of time. I could have done two years post high school and then an intense 18 month post undergrad and been just fine. My money is earned on things you can find in a book that is sold on Amazon for like $40.

My advice to any kid that will listen is...travel. And learn some tech skills.

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my point had nothing to do with the value of attending grad school. you may notice, though, that there's a large contingent of people with advanced degrees who DO see 4-year grads as suboptimal.

that was my point.

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Fair enough. I'll leave that assessment to others. The thing I work on is sorta specific. So the grad school thing was a necessity. It was still wasteful as ***** If I give it any one redeeming thing, I know how to navigate university bulls--- like no other. Administrators fear me, mauahaha! I can speak directly to the corruption that is poisoning young minds and creating a monstrosity of debt. For those interested in my views, send me a DM, and for the price of a few drinks I'll share my hard earned guidance.

But let it be known, that at no time did I undertake education, be that enrolling in graduate courses or buying a book from Amazon, for the purposes of being 'smart' or 'elitist,' or 'snooty.' Smart sucks. It's pointless and it won't get you girls. Rich, on the other hand is nice. I'm not there yet, but I've tasted it and I intend to keep cutting throats until the magic of compound interests anoints me ruler over all.*

*or pays for the Porsche

I wouldn't cross the street for a paid membership

Robert Wilson said:

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There certainly is some comparison between our behaviors. It's apparent. They were judgmental of everyone they viewed as being outside of their tribe, and I'm judging them for being nowhere nearly as impressive as they think they are and a-holes to boot. If you're saying I'm also a judgmental a-hole, fair enough. I'd rather hang out with the rabble than the ones putting on airs. And that is where my snobbery comes in ... the real badasses don't act that way.

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i've come around to your side, TBH. i picked up a premium subscription after reading OPs post. yes, there was information. detailed information with absolute statements that didn't make sense to me because NO ONE else was reporting info anywhere near what they were reporting.

i questioned those specific scenarios/absolute statements and got absolutely flamed for it. they called me a troll, a Cal fan, a Tech fan, etc. one of the ones providing the info tried to bet me 1k that X would happen in 3 months. the board said "you're new here and you come in with that attitude?"

fast forward 1 week and that same person is posting that X scenario might not happen until the end of the year (if at all). and of course, the goalposts keep moving. it's a self-aggrandizing echo chamber and anyone who questions the daily narrative is wrong.

you can go back to last year and see the same people reporting info (this isn't SicEm staff FWIW) that was dead wrong re: realignment (info that hasn't been even remotely reported by anyone else since. not one source has confirmed certain alleged 2021 "executive level discussions").

after 2 weeks of premium, i now understand what you were talking about. i'll let my subscription expire at the end of the month and move on.

There is some great game analysis and recruiting information for sure and they don't let the trolls get away with a lot over there. But with any realignment news, I wouldn't pay for any of that.

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There is some great game analysis and recruiting information for sure and they don't let the trolls get away with a lot over there. But with any realignment news, I wouldn't pay for any of that.

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Your loss

lololol

Art_E_Guinn said:

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Robert Wilson said:

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There certainly is some comparison between our behaviors. It's apparent. They were judgmental of everyone they viewed as being outside of their tribe, and I'm judging them for being nowhere nearly as impressive as they think they are and a-holes to boot. If you're saying I'm also a judgmental a-hole, fair enough. I'd rather hang out with the rabble than the ones putting on airs. And that is where my snobbery comes in ... the real badasses don't act that way.

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i've come around to your side, TBH. i picked up a premium subscription after reading OPs post. yes, there was information. detailed information with absolute statements that didn't make sense to me because NO ONE else was reporting info anywhere near what they were reporting.

i questioned those specific scenarios/absolute statements and got absolutely flamed for it. they called me a troll, a Cal fan, a Tech fan, etc. one of the ones providing the info tried to bet me 1k that X would happen in 3 months. the board said "you're new here and you come in with that attitude?"

fast forward 1 week and that same person is posting that X scenario might not happen until the end of the year (if at all). and of course, the goalposts keep moving. it's a self-aggrandizing echo chamber and anyone who questions the daily narrative is wrong.

you can go back to last year and see the same people reporting info (this isn't SicEm staff FWIW) that was dead wrong re: realignment (info that hasn't been even remotely reported by anyone else since. not one source has confirmed certain alleged 2021 "executive level discussions").

after 2 weeks of premium, i now understand what you were talking about. i'll let my subscription expire at the end of the month and move on.

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I looked at your posts. You contributed to the site & I enjoyed your early posts. However, you posed as a new poster and proceeded to post 40 times in 2 days.
You did question specific scenarios and you were received politely. You made absolute statements and your statements were questioned.
Then you flamed some old timers and one called you bluff. You got huffy and flamed more.

Now you have your feelings hurt.

This is what I didn't like and why I no longer pay. Let it go. Quit attacking him for whatever reason. We just have this "eat our own" crowd on the paid site. Some of what he said is true, I know. I experienced it as well. I am a big fan of Sicem365 paid site but won't be back until that mentality stops.

Let me see if I get the value proposition straight.

For the price of a monthly subscription, there is an elite group of insiders that share private information about Baylor sports.

And that information is only known to these privileged, insiders who only share it with paid subscribers.

Is that the pitch here?

TellMeYouLoveMe said:

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Let me see if I get the value proposition straight.

For the price of a monthly subscription, there is an elite group of insiders that share private information about Baylor sports.

And that information is only known to these privileged, insiders who only share it with paid subscribers.

Is that the pitch here?

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two other things

1) super secret handshake. This comes in handy at tailgates and such so the paid member knows not to divulge information to a poor.
2) double-secret probation. This is used against paid members who converse with poors 50.01% or more of their post. If this continues to occur after double-secret probation, their spell-check will be turned off.
As a warning to all, Waco1947 had this occur to him. At times his post are practically unintelligible.

TellMeYouLoveMe said:

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Let me see if I get the value proposition straight.

For the price of a monthly subscription, there is an elite group of insiders that share private information about Baylor sports.

And that information is only known to these privileged, insiders who only share it with paid subscribers.

Is that the pitch here?

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I think you are trying to be funny but here is why it is really good.

There is great analysis, schemes, breakdowns of the opponents, players to watch, personal stories about players and coaches and some inside information sometimes. It is more than just way recruiting and private information.

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TellMeYouLoveMe said:

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Let me see if I get the value proposition straight.

For the price of a monthly subscription, there is an elite group of insiders that share private information about Baylor sports.

And that information is only known to these privileged, insiders who only share it with paid subscribers.

Is that the pitch here?

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I think you are trying to be funny but here is why it is really good.

There is great analysis, schemes, breakdowns of the opponents, players to watch, personal stories about players and coaches and some inside information sometimes. It is more than just way recruiting and private information.

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It was a sincere question. Thanks for your response.

It is worth the money. Try it.

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85% of our subscribers never post. The 15% that do usually have strong opinions that can be too pessimistic or optimistic at times

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That's interesting. And probably the norm for most fan sites.

80% of gym memberships attend probably 3-4 times a year, seems a similar comparison.

Thanks to Ashley Hodge for the comments and for the constructive appreciation for us who have chosen not to be part of Premium.

But I've said it before and I'm saying it again. I would be willing to make donations if there simply were a DONATE button on the home page (or similar spot). That could include options like 1: Donate to the site; and 2) Donate to aid NIL.

As a regular poster, I sincerely hope that my blend of comments, attempts at humor, and use of images helps attract eyeballs which generate revenue. Plus my occasional descent into deliberate imbecility.

I'm really looking forward to Sic'Em's tailgate at the BYU game, since I live in Utah, and work in Provo not far from the stadium. My fellow Baylor grad son and I will be there.

I'll be the one wearing green.

Has this all been run by the General Counsel's office? I don't think NIL is the complete and total legalization of what SMU was doing in the 80s. I think there are still some regs about it. I thought the players do have to do some kind of token work like pose for a picture for an ad of one's business for example. Perhaps the regulations in Texas ended up not passing and hence there are no rules in Texas. I don't know for sure.

I haven't been on campus since I graduated in 1990. The premium side has done a lot to keep me engaged with the University. Worth the cost!

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That really helps them add more things to this site. They do an great job with the site.

Would you guys donate to an NIL fund for Baylor athletes?

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Yes on NIL.

By the way, I like this site, but the site you ran for so many years will never be topped. Thanks for your work on it.

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{ sniff }

- tbp*

{ clatter }

p*BID.

maybe a 'donate' button.

kick in some money every so often.

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Would you donate to a fund so the athletes could sip coffee?

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I'd buy some actual jerseys of said athlete to support said athlete. Not the stupid "1" ones you can get now.

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you can currently do that via the book store for mbb and wbb athletes

I'm on the Premium board (for now). The problem is that most of the content is free to anyone...Youtube Channel, Podcasts, Sicem Radio. Don't forget Twitter. Usually, the staff post breaking news on Twitter either right after they post, or sometimes before they post. Travis is the main reason to stay on Premium though. His writing and breakdowns are great. Just don't like seeing him doing more Podcasts/Radio sessions. A few posters do have insider information, more so than the staff, it seems sometimes. The conference realignment insiders have been great though.

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one way you can contribute to NIL is buying NIL gift cards. If you have a particular player or sport you want to support just let me know. 100% of the gift cards go directly to the athlete. We even eat the credit card fees.

https://sicem365.com/store#!category=28

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Thank you for making me aware of this. I have now made an NIL contribution via SicEm365.

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gobears20 said:

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That really helps them add more things to this site. They do an great job with the site.

Would you guys donate to an NIL fund for Baylor athletes?

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Yes on NIL.

By the way, I like this site, but the site you ran for so many years will never be topped. Thanks for your work on it.

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It was definitely the most fun. I wish we could have both. They are really two different things.