https://huskercorner.com/2022/11/03/nebraska-football-dave-aranda-fire/amp/

Looks like someone is making a mountain of a molehill. It doesn't look like there's anything here except some idle gossip & wishful thinking. Aranda is not going anywhere.

Well, the team does have a road game in Norman.

Dave Aranda doesn't seem to be the type of person that makes career mistakes.

Nebraska simply hasn't been the same team since they left the big 12. more and more coaches these days are staying put at relatively smaller programs that have stronger culture and more realistic expectations

Exactly. That describes Dave Aranda very well.

A whole article overanalyzing an AD saying "Nah."

Yep

Mothballs said:

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Dave Aranda doesn't seem to be the type of person that makes career mistakes.

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He also doesn't seem to be the guy that says one thing and does something contrary to it. Baylor is going to have to do something really stupid for him to feel like it is no longer the place for him. And the odds of that happening have been greatly reduced since most of the idiots running the university, both from the board room and Pat Neff, in 2015 are no longer around.

Have said this before and I'll say it again.

Nebraska in 2022 is the worst coaching job in America.

1. It's a moribund, beyond-dead program with massive expectations. It's not a traditional rebuild. It's not "just get us back into bowls." It's, "get us back to the natty." Their fan base still travels, still sells out, is still as invested as ever. You don't get any breathing room there. Day 1 you're an ant with the magnifying glass focusing the sun onto your back.

2. The leash Nebraska gave Scott Frost completely screwed the next guy up. It's not often a program is that patient with the process. They won't do that again. The leash is going to be much shorter and the scrutiny will come much faster for Frost's replacement.

3. Recruiting has shifted irrevocably since the last time Nebraska was elite. They're not pulling top 100 guys out of coastal metros anymore. Lincoln is a hard sell in the best of times, and they're still trying to recruit like it's 1997. They need to double down on the Wisconsin recruiting approach and stop trying to be Ohio State. Of course that means fully admitting and committing to the notion that you're not who you used to be and the Nebraska of the 90's is never coming back. Hard sell with that fan base.

4. The institutional leadership is terrible and rudderless. They have a lot of resources with no idea how to utilize them. They're like an even more clueless version of Texas, which should tell you everything you need to know.

Whoever walks into that gig is walking into a lion's den with a toothpick. They're set up to fail from minute one, and if anyone thinks that's the kind of gig Aranda would jump at, then I would argue they don't know Aranda's personality very well.

parch said:

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Have said this before and I'll say it again.

Nebraska in 2022 is the worst coaching job in America.

1. It's a moribund, beyond-dead program with massive expectations. It's not a traditional rebuild. It's not "just get us back into bowls." It's, "get us back to the natty." Their fan base still travels, still sells out, is still as invested as ever. You don't get any breathing room there. Day 1 you're an ant with the magnifying glass focusing the sun onto your back.

2. The leash Nebraska gave Scott Frost completely screwed the next guy up. It's not often a program is that patient with the process. They won't do that again. The leash is going to be much shorter and the scrutiny will come much faster for Frost's replacement.

3. Recruiting has shifted irrevocably since the last time Nebraska was elite. They're not pulling top 100 guys out of coastal metros anymore. Lincoln is a hard sell in the best of times, and they're still trying to recruit like it's 1997. They need to double down on the Wisconsin recruiting approach and stop trying to be Ohio State. Of course that means fully admitting and committing to the notion that you're not who you used to be and the Nebraska of the 90's is never coming back. Hard sell with that fan base.

4. The institutional leadership is terrible and rudderless. They have a lot of resources with no idea how to utilize them. They're like an even more clueless version of Texas, which should tell you everything you need to know.

Whoever walks into that gig is walking into a lion's den with a toothpick. They're set up to fail from minute one, and if anyone thinks that's the kind of gig Aranda would jump at, then I would argue they don't know Aranda's personality very well.

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I don't think Nebraska is dead, but it's going to take a unique coach with a very specific set of skills to revive it. They need a complete rebuild, from the ground up, making Matt Rhule a better target IMO than Aranda.

They need a guy with a proven track record of turning around programs that rely more on under-the-radar talent, player development and culture than name brand. Rhule is that guy. He'd be blasted there after a year like he's been everywhere else he's coached. But once people saw the method to his madness and the fruits of his labor, he'd win them over.

And even if he were to get wanderlust, he'd do more in three or four years there than anyone else they could hire and set the next coach up with a strong foundation to build on what he started.

Sounds reasonable but I have questions:

That appears to be the MO of Matt Rhule but can we be sure?
Baylor is looking great under Aranda. Is Temple looking very good right now?
Would Rhule or anyone else be able to recruit in Nebraska the way Rhule did in Philadelphia or in central Texas?

Rhule may be the only one that can do it but perhaps nobody can and it's a lost cause.

historian said:

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Sounds reasonable but I have questions:

That appears to be the MO of Matt Rhule but can we be sure?
Baylor is looking great under Aranda. Is Temple looking very good right now?
Would Rhule or anyone else be able to recruit in Nebraska the way Rhule did in Philadelphia or in central Texas?

Rhule may be the only one that can do it but perhaps nobody can and it's a lost cause.

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I'll agree that little Matty is a lost cause

historian said:

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Sounds reasonable but I have questions:

That appears to be the MO of Matt Rhule but can we be sure?
Baylor is looking great under Aranda. Is Temple looking very good right now?
Would Rhule or anyone else be able to recruit in Nebraska the way Rhule did in Philadelphia or in central Texas?

Rhule may be the only one that can do it but perhaps nobody can and it's a lost cause.

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Geoff Collins did well enough at Temple to get a Power 5 job. It didn't work out well at Georgia Tech, but he got that job on the heels of a 15-11 run in Philly.

Temple's problem is coaching turnover. Collins was only there two seasons and Carey flopped after a good first year. They squandered all the momentum that Rhule built, but it's hard to sustain something at a place that good coaches leave after two to four years. That's not a problem at a Baylor or Nebraska.

And I think that Rhule could recruit to Nebraska because of his recruiting philosophy. He doesn't go after four- and five-star recruits. He goes after overlooked guys that fit his mold from a size and athleticism standpoint and develops them into four- and five-star players. That works anywhere.

I would certainly hate to see Aranda go, but if he goes, then he goes. Mack has a pretty solid hiring record to stand on so far, so I'm confident he can find the right guy. He was smart enough to dodge the Chad Morris debacle. He was smart enough to avoid the Justin Fuente crash-and-burn. He made two highly productive choices.

No, we're not getting Dabo, Saban, Smart, Day or any other top tier guy from the SEC or B1G, and no one else in the new Big 12 would either. He'll find a a solid guy though. I am confident of that. We're not Baylor of the late 1990s or early 2000s any longer.

Stranger said:

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historian said:

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Sounds reasonable but I have questions:

That appears to be the MO of Matt Rhule but can we be sure?
Baylor is looking great under Aranda. Is Temple looking very good right now?
Would Rhule or anyone else be able to recruit in Nebraska the way Rhule did in Philadelphia or in central Texas?

Rhule may be the only one that can do it but perhaps nobody can and it's a lost cause.

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I'll agree that little Matty is a lost cause

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I never said that. Don't try to put words in my mouth. It's more likely that Nebraska football is a list cause.

bear2be2 said:

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historian said:

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Sounds reasonable but I have questions:

That appears to be the MO of Matt Rhule but can we be sure?
Baylor is looking great under Aranda. Is Temple looking very good right now?
Would Rhule or anyone else be able to recruit in Nebraska the way Rhule did in Philadelphia or in central Texas?

Rhule may be the only one that can do it but perhaps nobody can and it's a lost cause.

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Geoff Collins did well enough at Temple to get a Power 5 job. It didn't work out well at Georgia Tech, but he got that job on the heels of a 15-11 run in Philly.

Temple's problem is coaching turnover. Collins was only there two seasons and Carey flopped after a good first year. They squandered all the momentum that Rhule built, but it's hard to sustain something at a place that good coaches leave after two to four years. That's not a problem at a Baylor or Nebraska.

And I think that Rhule could recruit to Nebraska because of his recruiting philosophy. He doesn't go after four- and five-star recruits. He goes after overlooked guys that fit his mold from a size and athleticism standpoint and develops them into four- and five-star players. That works anywhere.

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Makes sense. Maybe he good succeed in Nebraska.

Nebraska should quit all this dicking around and hire Gary Patterson.

Post of the day.

That was Stranger's attempt at humor. Surely you're aware of his morbid fascination with insulting Rhule at every opportunity.

Yes. I'm familiar with it. I just don't understand the childish obsession.

Stefano DiMera said:

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That was Stranger's attempt at humor. Surely you're aware of his morbid fascination with insulting Rhule at every opportunity.

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hey little Matty, if the shoe fits, wear it.

As per football scoop, they are exercising their due diligence regarding Patterson.

Patterson is a train wreck.

I hope they hire him.

We may well lose Aranda some day, but it won't be to the likes of Nebraska. It'll more likely be to something like a prominent SEC program. As an example, whenever LSU runs Brian Kelly off it could be time to be concerned.

The Hound said:

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Nebraska simply hasn't been the same team since they left the big 12. more and more coaches these days are staying put at relatively smaller programs that have stronger culture and more realistic expectations

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They have not been the same program since partial qualifiers ended and the little kids pool of the Big 8 dried up.

p.s.

Losing the Texas recruiting grounds hurt as well.

parch said:

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Have said this before and I'll say it again.

Nebraska in 2022 is the worst coaching job in America.

1. It's a moribund, beyond-dead program with massive expectations. It's not a traditional rebuild. It's not "just get us back into bowls." It's, "get us back to the natty." Their fan base still travels, still sells out, is still as invested as ever. You don't get any breathing room there. Day 1 you're an ant with the magnifying glass focusing the sun onto your back.

2. The leash Nebraska gave Scott Frost completely screwed the next guy up. It's not often a program is that patient with the process. They won't do that again. The leash is going to be much shorter and the scrutiny will come much faster for Frost's replacement.

3. Recruiting has shifted irrevocably since the last time Nebraska was elite. They're not pulling top 100 guys out of coastal metros anymore. Lincoln is a hard sell in the best of times, and they're still trying to recruit like it's 1997. They need to double down on the Wisconsin recruiting approach and stop trying to be Ohio State. Of course that means fully admitting and committing to the notion that you're not who you used to be and the Nebraska of the 90's is never coming back. Hard sell with that fan base.

4. The institutional leadership is terrible and rudderless. They have a lot of resources with no idea how to utilize them. They're like an even more clueless version of Texas, which should tell you everything you need to know.

Whoever walks into that gig is walking into a lion's den with a toothpick. They're set up to fail from minute one, and if anyone thinks that's the kind of gig Aranda would jump at, then I would argue they don't know Aranda's personality very well.

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^^^all great points.

For all those reasons its now one of the toughest coaching jobs in College football.

More and more coaches are realizing that getting a 50% raise isn't worth taking a job that's 200% more difficult

The Hound said:

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Nebraska simply hasn't been the same team since they left the big 12. more and more coaches these days are staying put at relatively smaller programs that have stronger culture and more realistic expectations

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Nebraska hasn't been the same since Tom Osborne was there pumping his players up with steroids and his school was giving tons of "academic scholarships" to under recruited but promising players for their walk on program.

The Hound said:

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More and more coaches are realizing that getting a 50% raise isn't worth taking a job that's 200% more difficult

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Especially when they're already making $multimillions annually before that 50% raise.

PartyBear said:

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As per football scoop, they are exercising their due diligence regarding Patterson.

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Gotta get an estimate for Trev Alberts on what the feed bill -- and other accoutrements -- would be:

damn - looks like he already went - did the house thing - accepted the job - took his desk for a few hours - decided it really wasn't for him - quit - and started looking for a new job - looked around and decided - again - on baylor - and was back at his desk before anyone knew anything had (supposedly) happened.

the end.

- KKM

{ sipping coffee }

{ eating donut }

BID.

The Hound said:

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Nebraska simply hasn't been the same team since they left the big 12. more and more coaches these days are staying put at relatively smaller programs that have stronger culture and more realistic expectations

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Neither has Colorado, Missouri or Arkansas. A&M is the only one that has stayed the same - mediocre. UT and OU are next.

Yeah

He'd fit right in there.

Stranger's posts always say a lot more about Stranger than they say about his intended targets.