Think about it. Stanford would burst into flames in Waco. BU fans would be lonely in the stands looking for someone to evangelize.ImABearToo said:
Are their students allowed to stand for the National Anthem or is that forbidden? Oh my, an invocation at McLayne? What will they think?
Colorado in discussions to move to the Big 12 - Thamel
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Pac12 commissioner George Kliavkoff told me.
— Hans Olsen (@975Hans) July 27, 2023
“If I thought nine months ago we were gonna lose one of our members we would’ve rushed & done a deal. Fortunately our presidents & chancellors who were in the board room with me have been patient.”
“That patience is going to pay off.”
can't make this up
Wow… Baghdad Bob has nothing on George
That quote is actually from a few weeks ago at PAC 12 media day..not today or recently.
It's a new quote. He's just parroting the same words for months now. Re-read the statement.Stefano DiMera said:
That quote is actually from a few weeks ago at PAC 12 media day..not today or recently.
osogreen said:I guess it all boils down to who sticks out the hand first.Fre3dombear said:Stefano DiMera said:Sources: The Big 12’s presidents and chancellors voted unanimously Wednesday night on a conference call to accept Colorado as a new member. Colorado still has not formally applied for Big 12 membership, which is expected to happen tomorrow.
— Pete Thamel (@PeteThamel) July 27, 2023
Pretty interesting they voted before they applied
Colorado is the first domino.
Oregon & UW are now in play along with AZ. If we add those four we are solidly the third best
conference and the PAC goes the way of the old SWC.
I feel the pain. As Baylor fans we've been to the gallows several times ourselves.
Yep, and a lot media folks delighted in Baylor's predicament. Remember Jim Rome "scrubby little Baylor" ? Thank god we we had K Starr back then to actually stand up and fight for Baylor or we'd probably be in the American Conference now.
I just don't know about having Oregon. I don't know how their school officials view things, but after reading fan comments, for the last year, I'm beginning to think their arrogance matches or exceeds UT levels. I would think the minute they walk in the first question they ask is where is the back exit. We don't need that **** again. Hard enough to survive from serious cancer once. A second one it unthinkable.PartyBear said:
As much as I would like UW and Oregon, from a fan stand point. The overhead of having them added for each current member is huge. But again UW is huge in my view. They are a rung just below blue blood. They have been fairly mediocre for the past 30 years but they have been at close to elite levels most of their history. I would consider them along with USC and perhaps UCLA one of the hearts of the traditional old PAC 10.
I'm thinking if we can add CU, Oregon, univ of Washington and an Az school our next tv contract will be even better. Maybe enough to be picky when the ACC destabilizes.
Also if CU comes to the b12 as rumored, I'm thinking the GK will have to renegotiate, making details of any deal take even longer.
I would prefer schools that want to be in the Conference and see a cultural fit. I fear that UW and UO see themselves as above the B12. CU, AZ, ASU, WSU, and Utah should all be cultural fits, even Oregon State. A CA school would be nice.blackie said:I just don't know about having Oregon. I don't know how their school officials view things, but after reading fan comments, for the last year, I'm beginning to think their arrogance matches or exceeds UT levels. I would think the minute they walk in the first question they ask is where is the back exit. We don't need that **** again. Hard enough to survive from serious cancer once. A second one it unthinkable.PartyBear said:
As much as I would like UW and Oregon, from a fan stand point. The overhead of having them added for each current member is huge. But again UW is huge in my view. They are a rung just below blue blood. They have been fairly mediocre for the past 30 years but they have been at close to elite levels most of their history. I would consider them along with USC and perhaps UCLA one of the hearts of the traditional old PAC 10.
If Oregon doesn't have an offer from Big Ten, they have no leverage over anyone else. Oregon would be a huge add for the Big 12. You'd just have to lay down the law and put them in their place early.blackie said:I just don't know about having Oregon. I don't know how their school officials view things, but after reading fan comments, for the last year, I'm beginning to think their arrogance matches or exceeds UT levels. I would think the minute they walk in the first question they ask is where is the back exit. We don't need that **** again. Hard enough to survive from serious cancer once. A second one it unthinkable.PartyBear said:
As much as I would like UW and Oregon, from a fan stand point. The overhead of having them added for each current member is huge. But again UW is huge in my view. They are a rung just below blue blood. They have been fairly mediocre for the past 30 years but they have been at close to elite levels most of their history. I would consider them along with USC and perhaps UCLA one of the hearts of the traditional old PAC 10.
This is a conference of equals. Period. If you don't want to be part of that, go rot in whatever West Coast Frankenstein conference survives this realignment phase.
bear2be2 said:If Oregon doesn't have an offer from Big Ten, they have no leverage over anyone else. Oregon would be a huge add for the Big 12. You'd just have to lay down the law and put them in their place early.blackie said:I just don't know about having Oregon. I don't know how their school officials view things, but after reading fan comments, for the last year, I'm beginning to think their arrogance matches or exceeds UT levels. I would think the minute they walk in the first question they ask is where is the back exit. We don't need that **** again. Hard enough to survive from serious cancer once. A second one it unthinkable.PartyBear said:
As much as I would like UW and Oregon, from a fan stand point. The overhead of having them added for each current member is huge. But again UW is huge in my view. They are a rung just below blue blood. They have been fairly mediocre for the past 30 years but they have been at close to elite levels most of their history. I would consider them along with USC and perhaps UCLA one of the hearts of the traditional old PAC 10.
This is a conference of equals. Period. If you don't want to be part of that, go rot in whatever West Coast Frankenstein conference survives this realignment phase.
A good reason could be made to leave Oregon and Washington out for that very reason. They have the mentality of mini-u.t. Austin's
As long as Oregon has Phil Knight & Nike money they are gonna be a pain to work with....and Washington is in Seattle...need I say more.
But whatever...its not my call
ImABearToo said:
Are their students allowed to stand for the National Anthem or is that forbidden? Oh my, an invocation at McLayne? What will they think?
They may clutch their pearls but we won't provide them fainting couches!
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
Psalm 119:36
FLBear5630 said:I would prefer schools that want to be in the Conference and see a cultural fit. I fear that UW and UO see themselves as above the B12. CU, AZ, ASU, WSU, and Utah should all be cultural fits, even Oregon State. A CA school would be nice.blackie said:I just don't know about having Oregon. I don't know how their school officials view things, but after reading fan comments, for the last year, I'm beginning to think their arrogance matches or exceeds UT levels. I would think the minute they walk in the first question they ask is where is the back exit. We don't need that **** again. Hard enough to survive from serious cancer once. A second one it unthinkable.PartyBear said:
As much as I would like UW and Oregon, from a fan stand point. The overhead of having them added for each current member is huge. But again UW is huge in my view. They are a rung just below blue blood. They have been fairly mediocre for the past 30 years but they have been at close to elite levels most of their history. I would consider them along with USC and perhaps UCLA one of the hearts of the traditional old PAC 10.
Neither school in California is a cultural fit! They are more like opposites.
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
Psalm 119:36
True. SDSU or Fresno would be closer fits.historian said:FLBear5630 said:I would prefer schools that want to be in the Conference and see a cultural fit. I fear that UW and UO see themselves as above the B12. CU, AZ, ASU, WSU, and Utah should all be cultural fits, even Oregon State. A CA school would be nice.blackie said:I just don't know about having Oregon. I don't know how their school officials view things, but after reading fan comments, for the last year, I'm beginning to think their arrogance matches or exceeds UT levels. I would think the minute they walk in the first question they ask is where is the back exit. We don't need that **** again. Hard enough to survive from serious cancer once. A second one it unthinkable.PartyBear said:
As much as I would like UW and Oregon, from a fan stand point. The overhead of having them added for each current member is huge. But again UW is huge in my view. They are a rung just below blue blood. They have been fairly mediocre for the past 30 years but they have been at close to elite levels most of their history. I would consider them along with USC and perhaps UCLA one of the hearts of the traditional old PAC 10.
Neither school in California is a cultural fit! They are more like opposites.
Probably so but we are not adding any school that is not currently P5. Only those allow us to expand with the some money for each school.
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
Psalm 119:36
historian said:
Probably so but we are not adding any school that is not currently P5. Only those allow us to expand with the some money for each school.
ESPN/Fox Will not sign off on G5s
I think I said the same thing in different words.
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
Psalm 119:36
West Virginia can take care of that, although they might be a bit toasty warm....historian said:ImABearToo said:
Are their students allowed to stand for the National Anthem or is that forbidden? Oh my, an invocation at McLayne? What will they think?
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“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
Psalm 119:36
In 2021, Big 12 proposed a merger to Pac-12. It was denied.
— Ross Dellenger (@RossDellenger) July 27, 2023
Two years later, Big 12 has sent Pac-12 staggering. Pac-12 plans a board meeting Thursday to discuss expansion/next steps, sources tell @YahooSports.
Inside Pac-12’s response & Big 12’s pursuit https://t.co/fvOTEF1CVC
A couple of things no one in the current XII and I'm including CU just for arguments sake is going to allow O and UW to act like Texas and OU did in the original version of the XII and the later version of the XII. BY also is not going to be Bowlsby to them. So I dont think you have to worry about that. They would be dealt with quickly and appropriately if they tried. I frankly would not even worry about UW trying to be a new OU or UT.blackie said:I just don't know about having Oregon. I don't know how their school officials view things, but after reading fan comments, for the last year, I'm beginning to think their arrogance matches or exceeds UT levels. I would think the minute they walk in the first question they ask is where is the back exit. We don't need that **** again. Hard enough to survive from serious cancer once. A second one it unthinkable.PartyBear said:
As much as I would like UW and Oregon, from a fan stand point. The overhead of having them added for each current member is huge. But again UW is huge in my view. They are a rung just below blue blood. They have been fairly mediocre for the past 30 years but they have been at close to elite levels most of their history. I would consider them along with USC and perhaps UCLA one of the hearts of the traditional old PAC 10.
The Board has confirmed it
.@DesmondHoward says we could LOSE the Pac-12 conference after the Big 12 voted to add Colorado:
— Get Up (@GetUpESPN) July 27, 2023
"It seems like everything is headed in that direction right now. They're going to have to pull off something pretty incredible ... if they're going to stay in existence." pic.twitter.com/4YyPc8ODwp
A statement from the Commissioner. pic.twitter.com/UtGgY5WnTf
— Big 12 Conference (@Big12Conference) July 27, 2023
....
Big 12 will add b/w 1 & 3 schools to join Colorado in 2024, sources told @ActionNetworkHQ. League will 1st seek others from Pac-12 to join. If none do so, Big 12 would add 1 Group of 5 (UConn, Memphis, SDSU or UNLV) to reach even number of teams in 2024https://t.co/j31J8IUMQN pic.twitter.com/rXcumkWoqn
— Brett McMurphy (@Brett_McMurphy) July 27, 2023
the buyouts for those MW schools is so unattractive. Don't want a single G5 school at all. Would rather have OSU over any of them if that's the case.Bear8084 said:Big 12 will add b/w 1 & 3 schools to join Colorado in 2024, sources told @ActionNetworkHQ. League will 1st seek others from Pac-12 to join. If none do so, Big 12 would add 1 Group of 5 (UConn, Memphis, SDSU or UNLV) to reach even number of teams in 2024https://t.co/j31J8IUMQN pic.twitter.com/rXcumkWoqn
— Brett McMurphy (@Brett_McMurphy) July 27, 2023
No G5 schools (that includes UConn). We're full up. No Basketball only schools either.
Illigitimus non carborundum
The Big 12 is likely going to poach another team from the Pac 9. That cert add only us preferable to a G5.
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
Psalm 119:36
Not sure if you're serious about Oregon St., but with a young alum as head coach, they are positioned to be a major player for a long time. Zero baggage, zero drama . . . . . but zero eyeballs other than us diehard college football junkies.BylrFan said:
the buyouts for those MW schools is so unattractive. Don't want a single G5 school at all. Would rather have OSU over any of them if that's the case.
CorsicanaBear said:
No G5 schools (that includes UConn). We're full up. No Basketball only schools either.
Supposedly the XII Presidents and Chancellor's also voted to back off basket ball only moves for the time being.
boognish_bear said:
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It looked like he deleted a similar Tweet. It was too big of news not to share again.
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