The #Big12 in their small minded stupidity and petty revenge fantasy are now enjoying looking down on the academically superior #Cal. pic.twitter.com/UnL819laOp

— Message Board Geniuses (@BoardGeniuses) August 23, 2023

Perfect illustration of the snobbery that doomed Cal and the Pac.

The Big 12 adding the "commuter schools" is why we got a nice TV contract while the Pac sat on its hands and eventually collapsed. Not to mention Houston and Cincy athletics are vastly more successful than Cal over the last decade. It's not even close.

Cal just scored again.

A snooty aggie. Wow, I have seen everything.

This is just a poster and may not even be a Cal grad based on the name. Just like posters here who love to talk culture as well do not represent the views or culture of the XII or Baylor for that matter.

The XII has not taken Cal or Stanford because reportedly the media partners, the ones who saved us and are setting us up to be a potential 3rd conference behind the main B2, have reportedly given the directive of no more expansion out west. We are wise to comply with their directives.

BearFan33 said:

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A snooty aggie. Wow, I have seen everything.

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Imagine combining the aggy-ness with Bay Area elitism. Good God.

You can probably like an Aggie. It's when you put two of them together…

I'm not sure why people are forming opinions about what random people say in message threads (unless such statements are based on provable facts); it's analogous to how some people form strong opinions about topics based on what someone says in a tiktok vs what the aggregated data says. In the case of CAL specifically, there are several reasons why it would be reluntant to pursue membership in the Big 12, such as the California ban on state funded and state supported travel to Oklahoma, Kansas, Iowa, Texas, West Virginia, Florida, Utah, Arizona, and Ohio - to rephrase, CAL could not use state funded travel or state supported travel to travel to -any- member of the new look Big 12 other than Colorado. Yes, it's true that they had that issue with the Arizona schools and Utah under the PAC 12 banner, but there is a difference between having this issue with 3 teams and 15 teams - especially in regard to an entire athletic department.

The poster is just way off the rails. If the Big XII had not expanded last year, there likely would not have been a Big XII after this year and who knows where Baylor would have been headed next year.

You have to do what you have to do when you have to do it to survive. You can't say, we'll wait on something to happen in the future because that would be a better outcome. Things don't work that way. Cal and the PAC had their chance and didn't take it and now they seem to be hosed.

The academics failed to land a prosperous TV rights deal even though two of their schools were located in LA, the epicenter of TV rights deals. Colossal failure by the brightest bulbs.

Robert Wilson said:

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BearFan33 said:

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A snooty aggie. Wow, I have seen everything.

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Imagine combining the aggy-ness with Bay Area elitism. Good God.

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That would be an Ebola- COVID super strain.

"They would have just waited for the Pac 12 to fall apart."

So, they think the Big 12 should have done what the Pac 12 was trying to do, while the Pac 12 was already falling apart, and they're calling other people stupid.

Then again they tried to burn down their own campus because a conservative was being allowed to speak.

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The academics failed to land a prosperous TV rights deal even though two of their schools were located in LA, the epicenter of TV rights deals. Colossal failure by the brightest bulbs.

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Bear Bryant: "You evah seen anabody pay ta watch a math class?"

Ain't nobody fill a stadium to watch school.

Dia del DougO said:

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Ain't nobody fill a stadium to watch school.

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I'm don't know. With some of the large classes held in lecture rooms at many public universities it is about the same thing.

Except the stadium crowds tend to be much larger & people will put up with all kinds of weather, etc for a game. If the weather is bad, classes are likely to be cancelled.

I was thinking the same thing. An Aggie in the Bay Area. That's not a fish out of water. That's an orca out of water.

That being said, Cal has an interesting brand of academic elitism. Probably because they are in Stanford's shadow in pretty much everything, so they have to play up the superiority where they can.

They're the ones who would prance around the Coliseum after a beating on the gridiron and say things like "So what, we're smarter than you."

Must absolutely slay them that while they've been resting on those laurels, there are undergrads getting accepted at Cal who aren't getting into USC.

Cal (and ucla) will always be ranked higher than USC based on those laurels they rest on, and are given by the ivory towers who love the UC, but the incidentals in the trenches must not make them real happy.

RightRevBear said:

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Dia del DougO said:

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Ain't nobody fill a stadium to watch school.

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I'm don't know. With some of the large classes held in lecture rooms at many public universities it is about the same thing.

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.....and taught by an ESL student.

TrojanMoondoggie said:

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I was thinking the same thing. An Aggie in the Bay Area. That's not a fish out of water. That's an orca out of water.

That being said, Cal has an interesting brand of academic elitism. Probably because they are in Stanford's shadow in pretty much everything, so they have to play up the superiority where they can.

They're the ones who would prance around the Coliseum after a beating on the gridiron and say things like "So what, we're smarter than you."

Must absolutely slay them that while they've been resting on those laurels, there are undergrads getting accepted at Cal who aren't getting into USC.

Cal (and ucla) will always be ranked higher than USC based on those laurels they rest on, and are given by the ivory towers who love the UC, but the incidentals in the trenches must not make them real happy.

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Those aggys weren't indoctrinated right. I'm assuming they didn't attend Fish Camp

If I were Cal, I would focus on soccer. That market will be a future hot one for that sport and they can get ahead of the curve, because they have no real future in football, IMO.

One thing missing to many, I believe, is that some of these former PAC 12 schools jumped onto the Big 12 train, but will be looking to jump off at the first opportunity. I am afraid there is little loyalty. Personally, I would have been more selective than taking several of these who hesitated - Utah is a good example. I like them as a program, but don't trust them at all.

BYU- Cinn-UCF-Houston - I think they are committed to the Big 12. Maybe Colorado, again.

The others? Sleep with one eye open.

Stanford and Cal are reportedly exploring the possibility of trying to join the BIG 12. https://t.co/zvAD3szwrM

— Heartland College Sports (@Heartland_CS) August 27, 2023

Forgive me if they aren't super reliable, but it's a new rumor.

The latest report is that the XII will not add anymore PAC schools and has not even spoken with any.

I saw that on another thread: several people in the Big 12 have confirmed that there is nothing to these rumors.

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If I were Cal, I would focus on soccer. That market will be a future hot one for that sport and they can get ahead of the curve, because they have no real future in football, IMO.

One thing missing to many, I believe, is that some of these former PAC 12 schools jumped onto the Big 12 train, but will be looking to jump off at the first opportunity. I am afraid there is little loyalty. Personally, I would have been more selective than taking several of these who hesitated - Utah is a good example. I like them as a program, but don't trust them at all.

BYU- Cinn-UCF-Houston - I think they are committed to the Big 12. Maybe Colorado, again.

The others? Sleep with one eye open.

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Gripping your pillow tight.

Russell Gym said:

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Bakersdozen said:

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If I were Cal, I would focus on soccer. That market will be a future hot one for that sport and they can get ahead of the curve, because they have no real future in football, IMO.

One thing missing to many, I believe, is that some of these former PAC 12 schools jumped onto the Big 12 train, but will be looking to jump off at the first opportunity. I am afraid there is little loyalty. Personally, I would have been more selective than taking several of these who hesitated - Utah is a good example. I like them as a program, but don't trust them at all.

BYU- Cinn-UCF-Houston - I think they are committed to the Big 12. Maybe Colorado, again.

The others? Sleep with one eye open.

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Gripping your pillow tight.

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Exit light, enter night.

None of them have anywhere to go anymore than Baylor Tech OSU etc.

I agree with you, but I am not sure they do.

This is the exact petty thought and feelings that caused the PAC 12 to disband

Bear8084 said:

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Russell Gym said:

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Bakersdozen said:

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If I were Cal, I would focus on soccer. That market will be a future hot one for that sport and they can get ahead of the curve, because they have no real future in football, IMO.

One thing missing to many, I believe, is that some of these former PAC 12 schools jumped onto the Big 12 train, but will be looking to jump off at the first opportunity. I am afraid there is little loyalty. Personally, I would have been more selective than taking several of these who hesitated - Utah is a good example. I like them as a program, but don't trust them at all.

BYU- Cinn-UCF-Houston - I think they are committed to the Big 12. Maybe Colorado, again.

The others? Sleep with one eye open.

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Gripping your pillow tight.

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Exit light, enter night.

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The B12 has stolen Calfords dreams

I've heard Cal has a really good chess team. They could put their NIL $$$ there and dominate. They could also challenge in meat judging.

Bear8084 said:

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Russell Gym said:

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Bakersdozen said:

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If I were Cal, I would focus on soccer. That market will be a future hot one for that sport and they can get ahead of the curve, because they have no real future in football, IMO.

One thing missing to many, I believe, is that some of these former PAC 12 schools jumped onto the Big 12 train, but will be looking to jump off at the first opportunity. I am afraid there is little loyalty. Personally, I would have been more selective than taking several of these who hesitated - Utah is a good example. I like them as a program, but don't trust them at all.

BYU- Cinn-UCF-Houston - I think they are committed to the Big 12. Maybe Colorado, again.

The others? Sleep with one eye open.

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Gripping your pillow tight.

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Exit light, enter night.

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Grain of sand.