How can our defense suck this badly?

And how can Aranda struggle so much with his coordinators?

I just jumped all over Utah giving only 6.5 next week. I would love for the Bears to prove me wrong, but I just don't see us being anywhere close.

6.5?? Id think it would be 16.5.

More like 45 points given

PartyBear said:

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Slogans have nothing to do with what happened last night and no one is trying to kill the football program. Everyone try to remain reality based here.

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Slogans are established to set an attitude. They do mean something. Baylor football had the one word slogan BUshido one year. They won a conference championship that year. BUshido means "the warrior way". The plan is to kill any resemblance of what Baylor football was regardless of how disconnected from the underlying issues were at that time. For example, when is the last black uniform game or blackout game?

Eugene Stoner said:

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PartyBear said:

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Slogans have nothing to do with what happened last night and no one is trying to kill the football program. Everyone try to remain reality based here.

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Slogans are established to set an attitude. They do mean something. Baylor football had the one word slogan BUshido one year. They won a conference championship that year. BUshido means "the warrior way". The plan is to kill any resemblance of what Baylor football was regardless of how disconnected from the underlying issues were at that time. For example, when is the last black uniform game or blackout game?

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Is our slogan this year pushindo?

I am amazed that some can't see what McGuire brings to the table. He is an alpha male and will win. Players/recruits like him. Of course NIL must be part of the package. He should have been the hire last cycle. But he is gone, so give me Traylor. He will also win wherever he goes.

The Banterer said:

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I think Aranda needs to get to at least 3 wins and show serious improvement on the defensive side of the ball to save his job. Teaff had some pretty rough non-con losses but always showed some fight in conference, and while Artilla the Hun's era was fun at the time, the crash was not, so I think it's wise to keep patience on the table if you think a guy might be a great fit who will reciprocate your loyalty.

If we keep Aranda, we probably have to commit for at least two years since we need a complete rebuild on the offensive side of the ball, and doing that with a 1-year leash is a recipe for bringing in a sniper from West Texas A&M.

As for possible replacements if things go south, Traylor would be the first choice, though I'd be a bit worried he has his sights on Texas/A&M long-term. Beyond that you do a proper search and find the best guy you can.

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Besides Long Island, where do the other 2 wins come from on the schedule?

Learning about the transfers from yesterday; is that the new way to build a team? Kinne brought in 50 transfers; Sanders brought in 80. If last year's team doesn't produce; replace them all.

Then Old school system says that they might get better in a year. Folks don't like to wait and if you do you will lose.

Is this year's slogan Poonami?

The only positive thing about this Era of cf is the portal and being able to turn around a program in a quicker time than it used to take.

The Banterer said:

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I think Aranda needs to get to at least 3 wins and show serious improvement on the defensive side of the ball to save his job. Teaff had some pretty rough non-con losses but always showed some fight in conference, and while Artilla the Hun's era was fun at the time, the crash was not, so I think it's wise to keep patience on the table if you think a guy might be a great fit who will reciprocate your loyalty.

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If this is anything close to reality this is the depressing. Not knocking this post as the admin is probably thinking like this.

3 wins would be a complete disaster. This is the weakest, softest schedule in many years. Mediocre team after mediocre team (outside of Utah/possibly Texas) mixed in with relatively weak teams (Cincy, Iowa st, Houston). 3 wins would be a pathetic display.

6 wins minimum with good and Extremely sound defensive play or the staff should be turned over including Dave. And 6 wins would be pathetic as well but the admin seems soft so it might appease them.

I know it will probably never happen, but the only thing that would make me truly happy is to bring back Briles and his staff back. We so poorly mishandled that situation as only Baylor could do. Beyond disgusted and disappointed.

I admit there are probably a lot of details I am not privy too, but I can only go off what I know until there is enough transparency emitted to convince me otherwise.

Can it be said that with NIL and the transfer portal it is possible for a coach to fire his team, not just assistant coaches. Texas State had 50 plus new scholarship players this season and Colorado had something like 68. It seems like another option in today's climate. Not that it is good, but those are two concrete examples where it seems to have worked. Those two scenarios unfolded in 1st year of new coach so maybe it is unique to that. Just seems like we may see more of that in future. Scholarship based on high performance/NIL expectations and if player does not perform, they are gone. Line between college sports and professional seems to be disappearing.

PBRBear said:

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Can it be said that with NIL and the transfer portal it is possible for a coach to fire his team, not just assistant coaches. Texas State had 50 plus new scholarship players this season and Colorado had something like 68. It seems like another option in today's climate. Not that it is good, but those are two concrete examples where it seems to have worked. Those two scenarios unfolded in 1st year of new coach so maybe it is unique to that. Just seems like we may see more of that in future. Scholarship based on high performance/NIL expectations and if player does not perform, they are gone. Line between college sports and professional seems to be disappearing.

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Wouldn't be a bad way to whittle down the entitlement mentality and help young people to deal with the real world, unless dismissed players just responded by filing suit.