Love him or hate him, finishing 6-6 probably gets him another year. 7-5 or better and there is no chance he's gone.

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I think we are now 5-13 in our last 18 conference games?

Thread needs to stay open.

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But we're 3-3 this year, which is the most important thing. Win two of the last three and we'll have a winning record both overall and in Big 12 play. That's success IMO. Not overwhelming success, but success nonetheless.

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This is probably the worst the conference has ever been and your excited that our head may end up barely above water.

We've seen significant improvement over last year and we have momentum. There's no reason not to believe we will be bowl eligible soon. We could very possibly end the season 8-4 with our first ever win in Morgantown.

What's not to be excited about? Especially after the dramatic win over TCU!

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We've seen significant improvement over last year and we have momentum. There's no reason not to believe we will be bowl eligible soon. We could very possibly end the season 8-4 with our first ever win in Morgantown.

What's not to be excited about? Especially after the dramatic win over TCU!

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The problems that were there when we were 2-4 are still there at 5-4. People are overlooking them because of the wins - wins against the conferences worst defenses.

but we're winning. and it's in good fasion. we could win out next year and some people would still say "fire dave". i get being skeptical but lets give credit where credit's due.

Looks like we will no longer be in the market…which is a good thing for everyone if we keep this winning going.

Bronco will be an interesting one to see how things go for him. Did great at BYU....then just kind of meh at UVA.

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i think we should hire Dave Aranda!! Sawyer AND Washington coming back.. we should be pre-season top 15 for sure

We need to update the candidate list.

Coach Cignetti in year two at Indiana, goes and beats Oregon on the road.
Just in case anyone doesn't know - Indiana blew ass before Cignetti got there (1-8 in conference)

We are in year 6 with Aranda doing what? Going sideways.


Seeing how its unlikely we can pry Cignetti from Indiana, I'll throw KC Keeler's name out there.

He's older, but has taken all of his teams to the top of their respective conferences and even won a title at SHSU. If he can get Temple to the CCG, he immediately becomes my #1.

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We need to update the candidate list.

Coach Cignetti in year two at Indiana, goes and beats Oregon on the road.
Just in case anyone doesn't know - Indiana blew ass before Cignetti got there (1-8 in conference)

We are in year 6 with Aranda doing what? Going sideways.


Seeing how its unlikely we can pry Cignetti from Indiana, I'll throw KC Keeler's name out there.

He's older, but has taken all of his teams to the top of their respective conferences and even won a title at SHSU. If he can get Temple to the CCG, he immediately becomes my #1.

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I wanted us to hire Cignetti right after our loss to Air Force in 2023. Sure wish we had a Time Machine, but oh well. Right now, I'd metaphorically give my left nut for Golesh at USF. Probably not realistic. I like Keeler except for his age. He's a darn good coach. I know I keep harping on this, but above all else, we have to have somebody with the charisma to mend relationships with some of our big donors.

Honestly, it is going to take more than just a new HC. A new university president, AD, and HC can begin that process. Baylor's current leadership has burned a lot of bridges.

Youre a clown said:

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jikespingleton said:

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We need to update the candidate list.

Coach Cignetti in year two at Indiana, goes and beats Oregon on the road.
Just in case anyone doesn't know - Indiana blew ass before Cignetti got there (1-8 in conference)

We are in year 6 with Aranda doing what? Going sideways.


Seeing how its unlikely we can pry Cignetti from Indiana, I'll throw KC Keeler's name out there.

He's older, but has taken all of his teams to the top of their respective conferences and even won a title at SHSU. If he can get Temple to the CCG, he immediately becomes my #1.

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I wanted us to hire Cignetti right after our loss to Air Force in 2023. Sure wish we had a Time Machine, but oh well. Right now, I'd metaphorically give my left nut for Golesh at USF. Probably not realistic. I like Keeler except for his age. He's a darn good coach. I know I keep harping on this, but above all else, we have to have somebody with the charisma to mend relationships with some of our big donors.

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This is a terrible year to hire a new coach. golesh is not coming to Baylor. Cignetti has a $60MM buyout, so neither is he. Honestly unless Dave gets caught pulling a Sandusky, I think we need to stick with him another year.

Eric Morris is interesting, Kinney as well, but honestly guys of that caliber will be there next year and the next year. No need to make a lateral move.

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Youre a clown said:

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jikespingleton said:

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We need to update the candidate list.

Coach Cignetti in year two at Indiana, goes and beats Oregon on the road.
Just in case anyone doesn't know - Indiana blew ass before Cignetti got there (1-8 in conference)

We are in year 6 with Aranda doing what? Going sideways.


Seeing how its unlikely we can pry Cignetti from Indiana, I'll throw KC Keeler's name out there.

He's older, but has taken all of his teams to the top of their respective conferences and even won a title at SHSU. If he can get Temple to the CCG, he immediately becomes my #1.

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I wanted us to hire Cignetti right after our loss to Air Force in 2023. Sure wish we had a Time Machine, but oh well. Right now, I'd metaphorically give my left nut for Golesh at USF. Probably not realistic. I like Keeler except for his age. He's a darn good coach. I know I keep harping on this, but above all else, we have to have somebody with the charisma to mend relationships with some of our big donors.

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This is a terrible year to hire a new coach. golesh is not coming to Baylor. Cignetti has a $60MM buyout, so neither is he. Honestly unless Dave gets caught pulling a Sandusky, I think we need to stick with him another year.

Eric Morris is interesting, Kinney as well, but honestly guys of that caliber will be there next year and the next year. No need to make a lateral move.

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People say that "it's not a good time to hire a coach" every single year. I don't buy it. Find somebody you like and pull the trigger. no, we won't get the perfect candidate or the unicorn candidate or the hottest candidate. Personally, there are several I'd be happy with. I'm not that picky. Eric Morris, Kinne, the dude at Tulane, Jimmy Rogers from Washington State (had my eye on him a long time. Took a Washington state program with crappy resources and very nearly just beat #4 Ole Miss), Golesh, Dan Mullens, Mark Stoops if he's fired, Ryan Silverfield at Memphis. There's probably a couple others I'm not thinking of. I'd be fine with any of them. Crap, I just saved Mack Rhoades the need to hire a search firm. Take that list, find the ones you like the most, do your interviews and find one you can live with

Cignetti may end up in Happy Valley.

James Franklin is probably gone.

Would you take him?

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Cignetti may end up in Happy Valley.

James Franklin is probably gone.

Would you take him?

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He wouldn't be my first choice, but I would give him an interview. He'd be an upgrade from aranda, but I don't know if he would be the best we could do if that makes sense. I also don't think he would pass the sniff test in terms of being squeaky clean by our BOR

These refs.

That's actually why I brought him up because his tenure at Vanderbilt and Happy Valley has been without a whiff of scandal.

Family man with no apparent skeletons in closet.

He's 104-45 at Penn State..that's a stunning record..and well over .500 at Vanderbilt.

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That's actually why I brought him up because his tenure at Vanderbilt and Happy Valley has been without a whiff of scandal.

Family man with no apparent skeletons in closet.

He's 104-45 at Penn State..that's a stunning record..and well over .500 at Vanderbilt.

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Yeah, I remember being very impressed with how he handled himself at Vanderbilt. I could definitely get behind him as our coach. Mark stoops and Dan Mullens are two other veteran coaches with similar backgrounds I would look at that I think are very good coaches. All of them have worked and been relatively successful with limited resources going up against opponents with far better resources in the SEC. I just think our board of regents is only going to go for a candidate that can charm them with Christianese talk in the interview. Maybe that's just my own cynicism, but there's definitely going to be a moral/religious component to their search

can't we just roll with our coach until or if he's fired. why not support him while he's still our coach….not gonna help by always looking for his replacement

Stefano DiMera said:

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Cignetti may end up in Happy Valley.

James Franklin is probably gone.

Would you take him?

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With a $60mm buyout he's not going anywhere.

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can't we just roll with our coach until or if he's fired.

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Lol, is there some other option for us non-millionaire fans? it's a free message board, and Baylor didn't even play this weekend. Yes, this thread is obviously wishful thinking. believe you me, if I had the power to fire Dave, I would've done so two years ago. If there's something else you want to talk about, like how great Dave is, or how you want him to be our coach, there's plenty of threads that may be more your cup of tea. While I think that Dave is a nice guy, I am ultimately a "Baylor" fan and not an "Aranda" fan, and I've seen enough of his coaching to know that he's a perpetual ~.500 guy. That is not acceptable in this conference.


But as I've said elsewhere, Aranda will be gone when the big money folks get fed up with him. Until then, he is our coach

BUATX2000 said:

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Stefano DiMera said:

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Cignetti may end up in Happy Valley.

James Franklin is probably gone.

Would you take him?

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With a $60mm buyout he's not going anywhere.

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$1 million if he leaves voluntary.

$56 million if fired today.

$48 million after this season.

I get that I just want to us fans to rally around out coach while we're 4-2 and still in the conference championship picture. But i get it

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Aranda is not going anywhere. His buyout is $40 million.

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Doubt it's $40 million and he isn't making it past next season if we have another one like this

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Where are you bears getting 40 from? None of us have seen his contract, but I've heard it declines every year and is now at 15 million. Idk for certain. But if it is 40, what a huge mistake to agree to that.

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Youre a clown said:

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jikespingleton said:

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We need to update the candidate list.

Coach Cignetti in year two at Indiana, goes and beats Oregon on the road.
Just in case anyone doesn't know - Indiana blew ass before Cignetti got there (1-8 in conference)

We are in year 6 with Aranda doing what? Going sideways.


Seeing how its unlikely we can pry Cignetti from Indiana, I'll throw KC Keeler's name out there.

He's older, but has taken all of his teams to the top of their respective conferences and even won a title at SHSU. If he can get Temple to the CCG, he immediately becomes my #1.

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I wanted us to hire Cignetti right after our loss to Air Force in 2023. Sure wish we had a Time Machine, but oh well. Right now, I'd metaphorically give my left nut for Golesh at USF. Probably not realistic. I like Keeler except for his age. He's a darn good coach. I know I keep harping on this, but above all else, we have to have somebody with the charisma to mend relationships with some of our big donors.

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This is a terrible year to hire a new coach.

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Unfortunately, I think you are right. All the top candidates have been poached the past 2-3 years. Other than Keeler and maybe Chadwell, no one sticks out to me. Liberty has regressed 2 years in a row, but that could have more to do with players getting poached and or just the natural up and down cycle of build-peak - bust.

Fantasy land time:

how unhappy is Dabo? I get the feeling he hasn't been happy the last couple years. That or he's always like that and I'm misreading his media interviews.

I've updated the thread. Let me know if you guys want to add someone. If possible, please include something to back up your sentiment.

Jimmy Rogers is now at Washington state.

A lot of people don't want to hear about moral victories, but Washington State is pretty much a crap pile of a program. On Saturday, they lost to a ranked Virginia by two points, and the Saturday before last, they lost to a top 10 Ole Miss squad by 3 points. I strongly believe the guy would kill it with actual resources

I second Rogers, he seems promising

The fact we have a 2 year old thread on who to replace Dave is probably a bad sign. Just Groundhog Day every year

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The fact we have a 2 year old thread on who to replace Dave is probably a bad sign. Just Groundhog Day every year

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He needed to be fired the day after the Air Force loss in 2023, so that sounds about right

I added Rogers. He seems like a long-term prospect to me.

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can we get him as our d line coach

There may be a good reason he's not working. There was lot of info out there that he had allegedly propositioned a woman - coed ? - at a gas station in Baton Rouge . My realtor has a female friend in who said that he did the same thing to her while serving as HC. I personally don't know if either is true.

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BUATX2000 said:

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Youre a clown said:

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jikespingleton said:

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We need to update the candidate list.

Coach Cignetti in year two at Indiana, goes and beats Oregon on the road.
Just in case anyone doesn't know - Indiana blew ass before Cignetti got there (1-8 in conference)

We are in year 6 with Aranda doing what? Going sideways.


Seeing how its unlikely we can pry Cignetti from Indiana, I'll throw KC Keeler's name out there.

He's older, but has taken all of his teams to the top of their respective conferences and even won a title at SHSU. If he can get Temple to the CCG, he immediately becomes my #1.

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I wanted us to hire Cignetti right after our loss to Air Force in 2023. Sure wish we had a Time Machine, but oh well. Right now, I'd metaphorically give my left nut for Golesh at USF. Probably not realistic. I like Keeler except for his age. He's a darn good coach. I know I keep harping on this, but above all else, we have to have somebody with the charisma to mend relationships with some of our big donors.

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This is a terrible year to hire a new coach.

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Unfortunately, I think you are right. All the top candidates have been poached the past 2-3 years. Other than Keeler and maybe Chadwell, no one sticks out to me. Liberty has regressed 2 years in a row, but that could have more to do with players getting poached and or just the natural up and down cycle of build-peak - bust.

Fantasy land time:

how unhappy is Dabo? I get the feeling he hasn't been happy the last couple years. That or he's always like that and I'm misreading his media interviews.

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Dabo's inability to adapt is the primary cause of Clemson's issues right now, so it probably wouldn't make sense to hire him even if he was available as doing to would run the risk of another late career (and expensive) Les Miles, Mike Gundy, etc.

Aberzombie1892 said:

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jikespingleton said:

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BUATX2000 said:

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Youre a clown said:

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jikespingleton said:

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We need to update the candidate list.

Coach Cignetti in year two at Indiana, goes and beats Oregon on the road.
Just in case anyone doesn't know - Indiana blew ass before Cignetti got there (1-8 in conference)

We are in year 6 with Aranda doing what? Going sideways.


Seeing how its unlikely we can pry Cignetti from Indiana, I'll throw KC Keeler's name out there.

He's older, but has taken all of his teams to the top of their respective conferences and even won a title at SHSU. If he can get Temple to the CCG, he immediately becomes my #1.

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I wanted us to hire Cignetti right after our loss to Air Force in 2023. Sure wish we had a Time Machine, but oh well. Right now, I'd metaphorically give my left nut for Golesh at USF. Probably not realistic. I like Keeler except for his age. He's a darn good coach. I know I keep harping on this, but above all else, we have to have somebody with the charisma to mend relationships with some of our big donors.

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This is a terrible year to hire a new coach.

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Unfortunately, I think you are right. All the top candidates have been poached the past 2-3 years. Other than Keeler and maybe Chadwell, no one sticks out to me. Liberty has regressed 2 years in a row, but that could have more to do with players getting poached and or just the natural up and down cycle of build-peak - bust.

Fantasy land time:

how unhappy is Dabo? I get the feeling he hasn't been happy the last couple years. That or he's always like that and I'm misreading his media interviews.

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Dabo's inability to adapt is the primary cause of Clemson's issues right now, so it probably wouldn't make sense to hire him even if he was available as doing to would run the risk of another late career (and expensive) Les Miles, Mike Gundy, etc.

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Dabo's absolute worst season in the last 10 years was nine wins…

Why does Dabo suck after one probable down year this year, but Dave has had down years damn near five out of the six years that he's coached here, and that means that he and Dabo are somehow on the same plane? Make that make sense