Didn't we fire Steele with 2 games left in the season and allowed him to stay until the end of the year?. Another head scratcher

Forest Bueller_bf said:

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KIA said:

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I think a better question would be was Matt Rhule the most overrated coach in Baylor's history?

What was his biggest victory for us?

Did he ever beat a ranked team?

Did he ever lead us to beat someone we were expected to lose to? Vanderbilt maybe? A road win against an unranked OSU team?

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Maybe the most overrated coach in history.

Basically a .500 college coach

1-2 in bowl games

11-27 in the NFL.

Sinking Nebraska to new lows.

Sure he has done some good things, but overall average to below average results.

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Rhule struggled in the NFL but he's a solid college coach. Way too early to evaluate Nebraska. His overall record is misleading because he started 1-11 with us and similarly at Temple. But the bottom line is that he inherited average teams, and after one very rough season, built them back and by his third year had them to 10 (and in our case, 11) wins. He probably could have gone 4-8 his first year at BU but he followed the "process" instead, got some young players playing time, and it ultimately had us an overtime period away from the Big 12 title (and likely CFP), and recruited talent that helped us win the 2021 title, so the process worked.

He's not near the level of Teaff or Briles among BU coaches, but he did his job in his 3 years, recruited well, and was wise to bring in an excellent DC in Phil Snow.

Stats97 said:

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Forest Bueller_bf said:

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KIA said:

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I think a better question would be was Matt Rhule the most overrated coach in Baylor's history?

What was his biggest victory for us?

Did he ever beat a ranked team?

Did he ever lead us to beat someone we were expected to lose to? Vanderbilt maybe? A road win against an unranked OSU team?

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Maybe the most overrated coach in history.

Basically a .500 college coach

1-2 in bowl games

11-27 in the NFL.

Sinking Nebraska to new lows.

Sure he has done some good things, but overall average to below average results.

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but he did his job in his 3 years, recruited well, and was wise to bring in an excellent DC in Phil Snow.

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Speaking of Snow - I would love to have him back here as our DC. I don't know if he retired after getting canned along with Rhule in the NFL, but the guy can coach. He isn't with Rhule at Nebraska..

Forest Bueller_bf said:

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KIA said:

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I think a better question would be was Matt Rhule the most overrated coach in Baylor's history?

What was his biggest victory for us?

Did he ever beat a ranked team?

Did he ever lead us to beat someone we were expected to lose to? Vanderbilt maybe? A road win against an unranked OSU team?

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Maybe the most overrated coach in history.

Basically a .500 college coach

1-2 in bowl games

11-27 in the NFL.

Sinking Nebraska to new lows.

Sure he has done some good things, but overall average to below average results.

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Ignorant takes.

Wangchung said:

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Stats97 said:

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Self Made Bear said:

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I'm not old enough to have seen Bill Beall-coached teams, but anyone who thinks Aranda is worse than Steele never attended a Steele coached game.

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I was thinking exactly the same thing as I was reading thru posts and then saw your post, and as someone who attended the first halves of many Steele-coached games, I agree completely. This is not an endorsement of keeping Aranda but it's not even close when it comes to Steele. It wasn't just losses for Steele, it was the complete lack of competitiveness. Games like last week were usual during the Steele era when he played power conference opponents. And I don't believe Steele would have won the Big 12 if he inherited Aranda's
situation.

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It's like they completely forgot what it's like to watch linemen go down on their bellies and stay there to watch the rest of the play develop. And then fans would be told about pizza and soft serve ice cream parties while extolling the "internal improvements" that we weren't knowledgeable enough to see for ourselves. The entire Steele era was one giant middle finger to Baylor alumni.

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"...watch the ... play develop" would imply growth or forward progress.

I think "...watch the rest of the horror unfold" would be a more accurate description.

bear2be2 said:

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Wangchung said:

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Stats97 said:

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Self Made Bear said:

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I'm not old enough to have seen Bill Beall-coached teams, but anyone who thinks Aranda is worse than Steele never attended a Steele coached game.

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I was thinking exactly the same thing as I was reading thru posts and then saw your post, and as someone who attended the first halves of many Steele-coached games, I agree completely. This is not an endorsement of keeping Aranda but it's not even close when it comes to Steele. It wasn't just losses for Steele, it was the complete lack of competitiveness. Games like last week were usual during the Steele era when he played power conference opponents. And I don't believe Steele would have won the Big 12 if he inherited Aranda's
situation.

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It's like they completely forgot what it's like to watch linemen go down on their bellies and stay there to watch the rest of the play develop. And then fans would be told about pizza and soft serve ice cream parties while extolling the "internal improvements" that we weren't knowledgeable enough to see for ourselves. The entire Steele era was one giant middle finger to Baylor alumni.

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"...watch the ... play develop" would imply growth or forward progress.

I think "...watch the rest of the horror unfold" would be a more accurate description.

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fair enough.