Ding! Ding! Ding!

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Big_Pumpin said:

DanaDane said:

I don't recall Spavital's offenses focusing on tight ends, so instead of the receivers transferring out as people were initially expecting at the end of the sesaon it will probably be a few of the 18 tight ends (seemingly) we signed over the past few years. Maybe Bell can keep Dabney in tow, who is the 1 receiving tight end we should definitely hold on to.


There's a video out there that has him describing how WV got way more effecient by utilizing the Tight Ends more.
I feel better now. In 2017, his 3 leading receivers (all wideouts) caught 97, 61 and 60 passes (did you hear that Hal, Monaray, Josh et al????) and his leading tight end only caught 5 passes. In 2018, his 3 leading receivers (all wideouts) caught 65, 54 and 46 passes. His tight end caught 16.
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DanaDane said:

Big_Pumpin said:

DanaDane said:

I don't recall Spavital's offenses focusing on tight ends, so instead of the receivers transferring out as people were initially expecting at the end of the sesaon it will probably be a few of the 18 tight ends (seemingly) we signed over the past few years. Maybe Bell can keep Dabney in tow, who is the 1 receiving tight end we should definitely hold on to.


There's a video out there that has him describing how WV got way more effecient by utilizing the Tight Ends more.
I feel better now. In 2017, his 3 leading receivers (all wideouts) caught 97, 61 and 60 passes (did you hear that Hal, Monaray, Josh et al????) and his leading tight end only caught 5 passes. In 2018, his 3 leading receivers (all wideouts) caught 65, 54 and 46 passes. His tight end caught 16.


Various Baylor coaches have said every single off-season that they are going to utilize tight ends more the next season, but I've never seen it materialize. People acted like Ben Sims was Jason Whitten, and he's been the best tight end we've had in an awhile. Fact is, there are very very few game changing tight ends in college. They're mostly used in situational playcalling in the red zone etc.
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DanaDane said:

Big_Pumpin said:

DanaDane said:

I don't recall Spavital's offenses focusing on tight ends, so instead of the receivers transferring out as people were initially expecting at the end of the sesaon it will probably be a few of the 18 tight ends (seemingly) we signed over the past few years. Maybe Bell can keep Dabney in tow, who is the 1 receiving tight end we should definitely hold on to.


There's a video out there that has him describing how WV got way more effecient by utilizing the Tight Ends more.
I feel better now. In 2017, his 3 leading receivers (all wideouts) caught 97, 61 and 60 passes (did you hear that Hal, Monaray, Josh et al????) and his leading tight end only caught 5 passes. In 2018, his 3 leading receivers (all wideouts) caught 65, 54 and 46 passes. His tight end caught 16.
If we're able to keep Dabney and Roberts, I hope we do utilize the tight ends in the pass game. Both of those guys are talented pass catchers.
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I'm okay with using them in the passing game, particularly Dabney. What am I not for is using 50 (yes, exaggeration) scholarships on tight ends, the majority who were as bad at blocking as the offensive linemen.
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In reference to some post about not developing qb's, I won't post names but we have had a couple qb's lately that could not learn the play book.
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In 21, Bell was the QBs coach. I think we did okay that year. D gets most the credit but should Shawn get none?
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BellCountyBear said:

This program now deserves to be playing UMHB and Howard Payne as conference games. Maybe that's been the goal since 2016.


Oh wait, let's forget we have played in 2 Big 12 Championship games since 2016.
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DanaDane said:

Nooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!


I know, right? How can we go up tempo with that kind of business!

Here's the vid

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

In 21, Bell was the QBs coach. I think we did okay that year. D gets most the credit but should Shawn get none?


Dave and Shawn did such a good job developing Bohanon that they showed him the door right after the season, citing his lack of passing skills as the reason. And now they've done the same to the guy that replaced Bohanon. I'm sensing a pattern
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2035 - "assistant TO the head coach" Shrute Bell
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Got Mulk? said:

BellCountyBear said:

This program now deserves to be playing UMHB and Howard Payne as conference games. Maybe that's been the goal since 2016.


Oh wait, let's forget we have played in 2 Big 12 Championship games since 2016.
That's why I said "now". Comprehend much?
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bear2be2 said:

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Krieg said:

1. I get not liking anyone on our staff. They've been bad overall.
2. Asking for proof Bell is good is like asking for proof Bell is bad. They're both impossible as we don't really know what he does and what he's been told to do. It's all just guessing.
3. I'd imagine a guy like Bell is useful to a guy that's never worked here before as he and his friends will know people locally and at Baylor. That alone might justify keeping Bell on staff in a relatively meaningless role to a new OC.


Who knows, who cares? It's sink or swim time for Spav. I hope he does great. If not, none of these guys will work here in a year.


The fact that no one who thinks he's good can provide evidence of the good things he's done is evidence that he's not that good, wouldn't you say? He has been here for YEARS now, so there's got to be some skins on the wall that he can show for his time here. That's not unreasonable to ask

He became a punching bag here for some inexplicable reason.
It's explicable. He was the QB coach and Shapen ended up with the 96th ranked QBR out of 128 starting QB's in the FBS.

Is using that one stat fair? Of course not. But it's easy and when a team sucks the majority of a fan base is going to find the easy explanation.
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jikespingleton said:

bear2be2 said:

No Quarterback said:

Krieg said:

1. I get not liking anyone on our staff. They've been bad overall.
2. Asking for proof Bell is good is like asking for proof Bell is bad. They're both impossible as we don't really know what he does and what he's been told to do. It's all just guessing.
3. I'd imagine a guy like Bell is useful to a guy that's never worked here before as he and his friends will know people locally and at Baylor. That alone might justify keeping Bell on staff in a relatively meaningless role to a new OC.


Who knows, who cares? It's sink or swim time for Spav. I hope he does great. If not, none of these guys will work here in a year.


The fact that no one who thinks he's good can provide evidence of the good things he's done is evidence that he's not that good, wouldn't you say? He has been here for YEARS now, so there's got to be some skins on the wall that he can show for his time here. That's not unreasonable to ask

He became a punching bag here for some inexplicable reason.
It's explicable. He was the QB coach and Shapen ended up with the 96th ranked QBR out of 128 starting QB's in the FBS.

Is using that one stat fair? Of course not. But it's easy and when a team sucks the majority of a fan base is going to find the easy explanation.
They were on Bell long before this season. It all stems back to the Novosad deal, which wasn't Bell's fault. That was an NIL casualty. It was likely a credit to Bell that he committed and stayed committed as long as he did.

And anyone who watched Shapen play in 2021 and 2022 would conclude that he made positive strides this past season both in his decision-making and his competitiveness. No quarterback will ever look good playing behind an utterly deficient offensive line with no help whatsoever from his running game. But he was a better player this season than he was last. It didn't necessarily show statistically for the reasons above, but he was a bright spot in an otherwise dismal season.
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An NIL casualty? What on earth are we reading?? I thought there were no such things and NIL casualties. Do they just exist only if it is Bell who loses his recruit or is NIL not significant other than an excuse for being bad at recruiting? Which is it? Get real.
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No Quarterback said:

74Bear said:

I'm told Bell is there for recruiting


Not doing a great job there either!

-failed to land Novosad last year. Factors there outside his control, but that data point stands

-Couldn't apparently develop drones or shapen enough for them to not transfer. You could argue that drones was a bust since he's not doing much at his new school, but that's still a miss

-Bohannon never developed into a great passer. That was the reason cited for giving the nod to Shapen

-Quarterback commit this year is a composite #102 in the nation that has no other P5 offers. A poster that I won't name wanted to argue that this particular recruit is a 'developmental project'. well, a few issues there: the time for developmental project has come and gone, Bell hasn't proven that he can develop a project quarterback, and apparently no other P5 school sees the potential in that project to warrant an offer. And that's all I'll say about Bennett.

-sawyer Robertson. OK, looks like he might have potential. You'd think that they would've given him more playing time this year, but I believe he was hurt at least some of the year

Granted Bell probably has his hand in recruiting other players that I'm missing, but these are the quarterbacks, and he's currently the quarterbacks coach (or was until today I guess)
Username checks out. As of today, Bell has "No Quarterback" anymore.
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74Bear said:

In reference to some post about not developing qb's, I won't post names but we have had a couple qb's lately that could not learn the play book.
That probably has something to do with the fact that Grimes' playbook was SEVEN (yes, 7) three inch thick binders, when he only used four plays: first down predictable run, second down predictable run, third down predictable run, and fourth-and-nine predictable pass.
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boykin_spaniel said:

2035 - "assistant TO the head coach" Shrute Bell


There's some gold in this thread.
Krieg
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Grizz Air said:

74Bear said:

In reference to some post about not developing qb's, I won't post names but we have had a couple qb's lately that could not learn the play book.
That probably has something to do with the fact that Grimes' playbook was SEVEN (yes, 7) three inch thick binders, when he only used four plays: first down predictable run, second down predictable run, third down predictable run, and fourth-and-nine predictable pass.


#1 offense ever didn't have a play book.

Grimes had an encyclopedic play book.

Yeah, screw play books.
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bear2be2 said:

jikespingleton said:

bear2be2 said:

No Quarterback said:

Krieg said:

1. I get not liking anyone on our staff. They've been bad overall.
2. Asking for proof Bell is good is like asking for proof Bell is bad. They're both impossible as we don't really know what he does and what he's been told to do. It's all just guessing.
3. I'd imagine a guy like Bell is useful to a guy that's never worked here before as he and his friends will know people locally and at Baylor. That alone might justify keeping Bell on staff in a relatively meaningless role to a new OC.


Who knows, who cares? It's sink or swim time for Spav. I hope he does great. If not, none of these guys will work here in a year.


The fact that no one who thinks he's good can provide evidence of the good things he's done is evidence that he's not that good, wouldn't you say? He has been here for YEARS now, so there's got to be some skins on the wall that he can show for his time here. That's not unreasonable to ask

He became a punching bag here for some inexplicable reason.
It's explicable. He was the QB coach and Shapen ended up with the 96th ranked QBR out of 128 starting QB's in the FBS.

Is using that one stat fair? Of course not. But it's easy and when a team sucks the majority of a fan base is going to find the easy explanation.
They were on Bell long before this season. It all stems back to the Novosad deal, which wasn't Bell's fault. That was an NIL casualty. It was likely a credit to Bell that he committed and stayed committed as long as he did.

And anyone who watched Shapen play in 2021 and 2022 would conclude that he made positive strides this past season both in his decision-making and his competitiveness. No quarterback will ever look good playing behind an utterly deficient offensive line with no help whatsoever from his running game. But he was a better player this season than he was last. It didn't necessarily show statistically for the reasons above, but he was a bright spot in an otherwise dismal season.


Not much here I can disagree with. I will say, Robertson didn't throw off his back foot last week.

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I think he needs to move to a non coaching position. Something like coordinator of recruiting or operations manager or some other made up title so that he can stay on staff if that is some sort of requirement from a BMD.
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Fre3dombear said:

bear2be2 said:

jikespingleton said:

bear2be2 said:

No Quarterback said:

Krieg said:

1. I get not liking anyone on our staff. They've been bad overall.
2. Asking for proof Bell is good is like asking for proof Bell is bad. They're both impossible as we don't really know what he does and what he's been told to do. It's all just guessing.
3. I'd imagine a guy like Bell is useful to a guy that's never worked here before as he and his friends will know people locally and at Baylor. That alone might justify keeping Bell on staff in a relatively meaningless role to a new OC.


Who knows, who cares? It's sink or swim time for Spav. I hope he does great. If not, none of these guys will work here in a year.


The fact that no one who thinks he's good can provide evidence of the good things he's done is evidence that he's not that good, wouldn't you say? He has been here for YEARS now, so there's got to be some skins on the wall that he can show for his time here. That's not unreasonable to ask

He became a punching bag here for some inexplicable reason.
It's explicable. He was the QB coach and Shapen ended up with the 96th ranked QBR out of 128 starting QB's in the FBS.

Is using that one stat fair? Of course not. But it's easy and when a team sucks the majority of a fan base is going to find the easy explanation.
They were on Bell long before this season. It all stems back to the Novosad deal, which wasn't Bell's fault. That was an NIL casualty. It was likely a credit to Bell that he committed and stayed committed as long as he did.

And anyone who watched Shapen play in 2021 and 2022 would conclude that he made positive strides this past season both in his decision-making and his competitiveness. No quarterback will ever look good playing behind an utterly deficient offensive line with no help whatsoever from his running game. But he was a better player this season than he was last. It didn't necessarily show statistically for the reasons above, but he was a bright spot in an otherwise dismal season.


Not much here I can disagree with. I will say, Robertson didn't throw off his back foot last week.



I've yet to see empirical data to support these claims of quarterbacks getting better, tight ends looking good that one year he was the tight end coach, etc. Players naturally tend to look better as time goes on, so I don't consider that a big win for a coach. if the position group wins accolades, finishes in the top two or three teams in the conference in touchdowns, or something to that effect, I'm willing to give him credit. But there's just nothing. "My eyeball test is better than your eyeball test bro, Bell's doing great things behind the scenes, and it's not my fault you can't see that!" Is not an argument I'm buying
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74Bear said:

I'm told Bell is there for recruiting


Which makes sense he is not a bad recruiter he was the primary recruiter for these players:
Adam schobel 4* qb
Jaylen Ellis 4* WR
Jadon porter 4* ATH
Conner hefernaan 3* OL
Matt jones 3* LB
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Wacoraisedbear said:

74Bear said:

I'm told Bell is there for recruiting


Which makes sense he is not a bad recruiter he was the primary recruiter for these players:
Adam schobel 4* qb
Jaylen Ellis 4* WR
Jadon porter 4* ATH
Conner hefernaan 3* OL
Matt jones 3* LB
The only QB on this list is Schobel. He is a verbal commit. So was Novosad. This is entirely the reason for Spavital to have been given the QB side of his hiring. Hooking a fish is one thing, landing it is another.
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PartyBear said:

An NIL casualty? What on earth are we reading?? I thought there were no such things and NIL casualties. Do they just exist only if it is Bell who loses his recruit or is NIL not significant other than an excuse for being bad at recruiting? Which is it? Get real.
Fudge basically said GXG was never given the opportunity to counter offer for any recruits that we lost; that includes Novasad and the LB from Temple that went to tamu. Not being given the chance to counter does not mean those two weren't NIL casualties.
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No Quarterback said:

Fre3dombear said:

bear2be2 said:

jikespingleton said:

bear2be2 said:

No Quarterback said:

Krieg said:

1. I get not liking anyone on our staff. They've been bad overall.
2. Asking for proof Bell is good is like asking for proof Bell is bad. They're both impossible as we don't really know what he does and what he's been told to do. It's all just guessing.
3. I'd imagine a guy like Bell is useful to a guy that's never worked here before as he and his friends will know people locally and at Baylor. That alone might justify keeping Bell on staff in a relatively meaningless role to a new OC.


Who knows, who cares? It's sink or swim time for Spav. I hope he does great. If not, none of these guys will work here in a year.


The fact that no one who thinks he's good can provide evidence of the good things he's done is evidence that he's not that good, wouldn't you say? He has been here for YEARS now, so there's got to be some skins on the wall that he can show for his time here. That's not unreasonable to ask

He became a punching bag here for some inexplicable reason.
It's explicable. He was the QB coach and Shapen ended up with the 96th ranked QBR out of 128 starting QB's in the FBS.

Is using that one stat fair? Of course not. But it's easy and when a team sucks the majority of a fan base is going to find the easy explanation.
They were on Bell long before this season. It all stems back to the Novosad deal, which wasn't Bell's fault. That was an NIL casualty. It was likely a credit to Bell that he committed and stayed committed as long as he did.

And anyone who watched Shapen play in 2021 and 2022 would conclude that he made positive strides this past season both in his decision-making and his competitiveness. No quarterback will ever look good playing behind an utterly deficient offensive line with no help whatsoever from his running game. But he was a better player this season than he was last. It didn't necessarily show statistically for the reasons above, but he was a bright spot in an otherwise dismal season.


Not much here I can disagree with. I will say, Robertson didn't throw off his back foot last week.



I've yet to see empirical data to support these claims of quarterbacks getting better, tight ends looking good that one year he was the tight end coach, etc. Players naturally tend to look better as time goes on, so I don't consider that a big win for a coach. if the position group wins accolades, finishes in the top two or three teams in the conference in touchdowns, or something to that effect, I'm willing to give him credit. But there's just nothing. "My eyeball test is better than your eyeball test bro, Bell's doing great things behind the scenes, and it's not my fault you can't see that!" Is not an argument I'm buying
You want empirical while stating "I don't consider"

Seems fair
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canoso said:

Wacoraisedbear said:

74Bear said:

I'm told Bell is there for recruiting


Which makes sense he is not a bad recruiter he was the primary recruiter for these players:
Adam schobel 4* qb
Jaylen Ellis 4* WR
Jadon porter 4* ATH
Conner hefernaan 3* OL
Matt jones 3* LB
The only QB on this list is Schobel. He is a verbal commit. So was Novosad. This is entirely the reason for Spavital to have been given the QB side of his hiring. Hooking a fish is one thing, landing it is another.
The fishing analogy no longer works. Hooked fish aren't given the opportunity to bite at more bait while already being reeled in.

NIL mixes in a bidding war with the best fit.
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LIB,MR BEARS said:

PartyBear said:

An NIL casualty? What on earth are we reading?? I thought there were no such things and NIL casualties. Do they just exist only if it is Bell who loses his recruit or is NIL not significant other than an excuse for being bad at recruiting? Which is it? Get real.
Fudge basically said GXG was never given the opportunity to counter offer for any recruits that we lost; that includes Novasad and the LB from Temple that went to tamu. Not being given the chance to counter does not mean those two weren't NIL casualties.
It was the poster I was responding to who says poor NIL isnt an issue and is an excuse making for coaches who are bad recruiters. I was surprised to hear him not even try to sound even slightly consistent when it comes to Bell. When he said to closely paraphrase "losing Novosad wasnt Bell's fault it was an NIL casualty".
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canoso said:

Wacoraisedbear said:

74Bear said:

I'm told Bell is there for recruiting


Which makes sense he is not a bad recruiter he was the primary recruiter for these players:
Adam schobel 4* qb
Jaylen Ellis 4* WR
Jadon porter 4* ATH
Conner hefernaan 3* OL
Matt jones 3* LB
The only QB on this list is Schobel. He is a verbal commit. So was Novosad. This is entirely the reason for Spavital to have been given the QB side of his hiring. Hooking a fish is one thing, landing it is another.


Oh I wasn't defending him being our qb coach I was more so giving the reasoning for BU keeping him on staff he's probably the best recruiter we have on staff currently besides powledge.

And btw Jadon porter is our first local high school recruit (Lorena) to commit to BU in a LONG time so kudos to him for that even though we missed out on so much great talent here in central Texas
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bear2be2 said:

jikespingleton said:

bear2be2 said:

No Quarterback said:

Krieg said:

1. I get not liking anyone on our staff. They've been bad overall.
2. Asking for proof Bell is good is like asking for proof Bell is bad. They're both impossible as we don't really know what he does and what he's been told to do. It's all just guessing.
3. I'd imagine a guy like Bell is useful to a guy that's never worked here before as he and his friends will know people locally and at Baylor. That alone might justify keeping Bell on staff in a relatively meaningless role to a new OC.


Who knows, who cares? It's sink or swim time for Spav. I hope he does great. If not, none of these guys will work here in a year.


The fact that no one who thinks he's good can provide evidence of the good things he's done is evidence that he's not that good, wouldn't you say? He has been here for YEARS now, so there's got to be some skins on the wall that he can show for his time here. That's not unreasonable to ask

He became a punching bag here for some inexplicable reason.
It's explicable. He was the QB coach and Shapen ended up with the 96th ranked QBR out of 128 starting QB's in the FBS.

Is using that one stat fair? Of course not. But it's easy and when a team sucks the majority of a fan base is going to find the easy explanation.
They were on Bell long before this season. It all stems back to the Novosad deal, which wasn't Bell's fault.
It's all about the 'easy' for most people.
Lose a top QB recruit? Must be the QB coach's fault.
Bad QBR? QB coach's fault.
It's kind of like blaming the president for a bad economy. He's the figure head and the easy target.
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jikespingleton said:

bear2be2 said:

jikespingleton said:

bear2be2 said:

No Quarterback said:

Krieg said:

1. I get not liking anyone on our staff. They've been bad overall.
2. Asking for proof Bell is good is like asking for proof Bell is bad. They're both impossible as we don't really know what he does and what he's been told to do. It's all just guessing.
3. I'd imagine a guy like Bell is useful to a guy that's never worked here before as he and his friends will know people locally and at Baylor. That alone might justify keeping Bell on staff in a relatively meaningless role to a new OC.


Who knows, who cares? It's sink or swim time for Spav. I hope he does great. If not, none of these guys will work here in a year.


The fact that no one who thinks he's good can provide evidence of the good things he's done is evidence that he's not that good, wouldn't you say? He has been here for YEARS now, so there's got to be some skins on the wall that he can show for his time here. That's not unreasonable to ask

He became a punching bag here for some inexplicable reason.
It's explicable. He was the QB coach and Shapen ended up with the 96th ranked QBR out of 128 starting QB's in the FBS.

Is using that one stat fair? Of course not. But it's easy and when a team sucks the majority of a fan base is going to find the easy explanation.
They were on Bell long before this season. It all stems back to the Novosad deal, which wasn't Bell's fault.
It's all about the 'easy' for most people.
Lose a top QB recruit? Must be the QB coach's fault.
Bad QBR? QB coach's fault.
It's kind of like blaming the president for a bad economy. He's the figure head and the easy target.
It would seem helpful to apply Occam's Razor here. Not the popular expression of same, but the principle of minimizing the number of variables or entities.
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jikespingleton said:

bear2be2 said:

jikespingleton said:

bear2be2 said:

No Quarterback said:

Krieg said:

1. I get not liking anyone on our staff. They've been bad overall.
2. Asking for proof Bell is good is like asking for proof Bell is bad. They're both impossible as we don't really know what he does and what he's been told to do. It's all just guessing.
3. I'd imagine a guy like Bell is useful to a guy that's never worked here before as he and his friends will know people locally and at Baylor. That alone might justify keeping Bell on staff in a relatively meaningless role to a new OC.


Who knows, who cares? It's sink or swim time for Spav. I hope he does great. If not, none of these guys will work here in a year.


The fact that no one who thinks he's good can provide evidence of the good things he's done is evidence that he's not that good, wouldn't you say? He has been here for YEARS now, so there's got to be some skins on the wall that he can show for his time here. That's not unreasonable to ask

He became a punching bag here for some inexplicable reason.
It's explicable. He was the QB coach and Shapen ended up with the 96th ranked QBR out of 128 starting QB's in the FBS.

Is using that one stat fair? Of course not. But it's easy and when a team sucks the majority of a fan base is going to find the easy explanation.
They were on Bell long before this season. It all stems back to the Novosad deal, which wasn't Bell's fault.
It's all about the 'easy' for most people.
Lose a top QB recruit? Must be the QB coach's fault.
Bad QBR? QB coach's fault.
It's kind of like blaming the president for a bad economy. He's the figure head and the easy target.


He's also one of the few assistants anyone can name.
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Krieg said:

jikespingleton said:

bear2be2 said:

jikespingleton said:

bear2be2 said:

No Quarterback said:

Krieg said:

1. I get not liking anyone on our staff. They've been bad overall.
2. Asking for proof Bell is good is like asking for proof Bell is bad. They're both impossible as we don't really know what he does and what he's been told to do. It's all just guessing.
3. I'd imagine a guy like Bell is useful to a guy that's never worked here before as he and his friends will know people locally and at Baylor. That alone might justify keeping Bell on staff in a relatively meaningless role to a new OC.


Who knows, who cares? It's sink or swim time for Spav. I hope he does great. If not, none of these guys will work here in a year.


The fact that no one who thinks he's good can provide evidence of the good things he's done is evidence that he's not that good, wouldn't you say? He has been here for YEARS now, so there's got to be some skins on the wall that he can show for his time here. That's not unreasonable to ask

He became a punching bag here for some inexplicable reason.
It's explicable. He was the QB coach and Shapen ended up with the 96th ranked QBR out of 128 starting QB's in the FBS.

Is using that one stat fair? Of course not. But it's easy and when a team sucks the majority of a fan base is going to find the easy explanation.
They were on Bell long before this season. It all stems back to the Novosad deal, which wasn't Bell's fault.
It's all about the 'easy' for most people.
Lose a top QB recruit? Must be the QB coach's fault.
Bad QBR? QB coach's fault.
It's kind of like blaming the president for a bad economy. He's the figure head and the easy target.


He's also one of the few assistants anyone can name.
Masterful.
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Bell sucks and has sucked for his entire tenure here. He has not developed a single weapon at QB since he has been here.
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Bell's next assignment will be the Mail Room.
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