Just more evidence that Novosad is nothing what our fanbase keeps trying to build him up to be. Even Oregon's coaching staff knows he's a bust, which is why they took Dante Moore back (which is what you're alluding to).

I'm not sure that makes him a bust. Oregons QB room will always be 3x more talented than ours. He made a dumb mistake thinking he was going to do anything but get splinters on his ass in Eugene.

KARMA

Would have played some this year for us and possibly been our starter next year

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I said it from day one. You screw people over and it comes back to bite you.

teenagers commit and decommit

no reason to get your panties in a wad about it

IowaBear said:

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I'm not sure that makes him a bust. Oregons QB room will always be 3x more talented than ours. He made a dumb mistake thinking he was going to do anything but get splinters on his ass in Eugene.

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He will likely finish his career playing at SMU making a kings ransom. On top of whatever oregon paid him. Not a bad gig.

Throw back to the Darrell Royal days who would recruit 50 players a year to keep other SWC teams from fielding competitive teams.

If you have three backups in one position who would be starters on another team, it weakens your competition. That's what Oregon is doing.

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teenagers commit and decommit

no reason to get your panties in a wad about it

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It wasn't just that Novosad decomitted, it was the way he did it. He really screwed us over at the final bell after we'd literally met all his demands for his entire recruitment.

I don't ever wish bad will on any of our prospective recruits, whether they decommit or not. But in Novosad's case it does feel like this bit of karma is deserved.

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That's why a coaching staff shouldn't put all their eggs in one basket. It's not easy but you've got to have a contingency plan because 18 year olds typically behave like 18 year olds

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It's not typical for major programs, let alone ones in our position, to recruit multiple high-end starter-quality QBs in the same class. For one, it's extremely difficult to do, but also coaches only have so many scholarships and are trying to fit all the jigsaw pieces together in terms of projecting rosters years down the line.

Novosad screwed us at the 11th hour. End of. Had he decommitted after a recruiting visit in the summer I think then you have to raise some eyebrows at the coaching staff, but he strung them along until the moment they literally couldn't do anything about it. I blame the coaching staff for plenty of things, but not this.

In the vast majority of cases you just kind of have to chalk it up as CFB being CFB, but in this specific case I think it's entirely appropriate to say screw you Novosad and move on.

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parch said:

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boykin_spaniel said:

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That's why a coaching staff shouldn't put all their eggs in one basket. It's not easy but you've got to have a contingency plan because 18 year olds typically behave like 18 year olds

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It's not typical for major programs, let alone ones in our position, to recruit multiple high-end starter-quality QBs in the same class. For one, it's extremely difficult to do, but also coaches only have so many scholarships and are trying to fit all the jigsaw pieces together in terms of projecting rosters years down the line.

Novosad screwed us at the 11th hour. End of. Had he decommitted after a recruiting visit in the summer I think then you have to raise some eyebrows at the coaching staff, but he strung them along until the moment they literally couldn't do anything about it. I blame the coaching staff for plenty of things, but not this.

In the vast majority of cases you just kind of have to chalk it up as CFB being CFB, but in this specific case I think it's entirely appropriate to say screw you Novosad and move on.

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Well our staff put itself in the position to be strung along. No program should give a kid and his family the power over a program that we did. It was just stupid. Oregon is doing it the right way.

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Every program is in a position to be strung along. It just hits us harder, like it would every other Big 12 program, because we can't just pick and choose which QB we want.

Our "developmental" QB in the 2023 class was Sawyer Robertson. The staff did fine filling that vacancy and now our QB room is in solid shape entering the 2024 season. I think that's the ultimate takeaway here. Not to fire shots at the coaching staff for getting railroaded by an impulsive decision by an 18-year-old six hours before the recruiting window closed.

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parch said:

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boykin_spaniel said:

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That's why a coaching staff shouldn't put all their eggs in one basket. It's not easy but you've got to have a contingency plan because 18 year olds typically behave like 18 year olds

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It's not typical for major programs, let alone ones in our position, to recruit multiple high-end starter-quality QBs in the same class. For one, it's extremely difficult to do, but also coaches only have so many scholarships and are trying to fit all the jigsaw pieces together in terms of projecting rosters years down the line.

Novosad screwed us at the 11th hour. End of. Had he decommitted after a recruiting visit in the summer I think then you have to raise some eyebrows at the coaching staff, but he strung them along until the moment they literally couldn't do anything about it. I blame the coaching staff for plenty of things, but not this.

In the vast majority of cases you just kind of have to chalk it up as CFB being CFB, but in this specific case I think it's entirely appropriate to say screw you Novosad and move on.

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Well our staff put itself in the position to be strung along. No program should give a kid and his family the power over a program that we did. It was just stupid. Oregon is doing it the right way.

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Every program is in a position to be strung along. It just hits us harder, like it would every other Big 12 program, because we can't just pick and choose which QB we want.

Our "developmental" QB in the 2023 class was Sawyer Robertson. The staff did fine filling that vacancy and now our QB room is in solid shape entering the 2024 season. I think that's the ultimate takeaway here. Not to fire shots at the coaching staff for getting railroaded by an impulsive decision by an 18-year-old six hours before the recruiting window closed.

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That would take a certain degree of reasonableness and maturity that many fans don't have, even though they hold 18 year olds to that standard.

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I'm not sure NIL was the only reason Novosad picked Oregon. They sold him on better exposure and an offense that features the QB compared to an anemic run first offense and unproven QB coach.

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It wasn't the only reason or even the primary reason. He saw where our offense was trending with Grimes, Bell, Mateos etc. and didn't want to be a part of it. Decommitting at the last minute was classless considering how we treated him for a year and a half leading up to that, but Dave should've had the cerebral wisdom to realize that a quarterback that is taking official visits to other schools while nominally being committed is not really committed

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PartyBear said:

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parch said:

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boykin_spaniel said:

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That's why a coaching staff shouldn't put all their eggs in one basket. It's not easy but you've got to have a contingency plan because 18 year olds typically behave like 18 year olds

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It's not typical for major programs, let alone ones in our position, to recruit multiple high-end starter-quality QBs in the same class. For one, it's extremely difficult to do, but also coaches only have so many scholarships and are trying to fit all the jigsaw pieces together in terms of projecting rosters years down the line.

Novosad screwed us at the 11th hour. End of. Had he decommitted after a recruiting visit in the summer I think then you have to raise some eyebrows at the coaching staff, but he strung them along until the moment they literally couldn't do anything about it. I blame the coaching staff for plenty of things, but not this.

In the vast majority of cases you just kind of have to chalk it up as CFB being CFB, but in this specific case I think it's entirely appropriate to say screw you Novosad and move on.

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Well our staff put itself in the position to be strung along. No program should give a kid and his family the power over a program that we did. It was just stupid. Oregon is doing it the right way.

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Every program is in a position to be strung along. It just hits us harder, like it would every other Big 12 program, because we can't just pick and choose which QB we want.

Our "developmental" QB in the 2023 class was Sawyer Robertson. The staff did fine filling that vacancy and now our QB room is in solid shape entering the 2024 season. I think that's the ultimate takeaway here. Not to fire shots at the coaching staff for getting railroaded by an impulsive decision by an 18-year-old six hours before the recruiting window closed.

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Except you're leaving out the fact that we were turning decent quarterback prospects away in the prior class in order to make golden boy there happy. It was an epic fail that left egg on the entire staff's face. There is no other way to construe that. It doesn't need to be brought up continually, but sugarcoating it isn't necessary either. There were many red flags that Aranda should have picked up on in Novosad's recruitment, and he got played like a fiddle. That's all I'll say on the topic because it really is beating a dead horse at this point

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parch said:

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PartyBear said:

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parch said:

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boykin_spaniel said:

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That's why a coaching staff shouldn't put all their eggs in one basket. It's not easy but you've got to have a contingency plan because 18 year olds typically behave like 18 year olds

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It's not typical for major programs, let alone ones in our position, to recruit multiple high-end starter-quality QBs in the same class. For one, it's extremely difficult to do, but also coaches only have so many scholarships and are trying to fit all the jigsaw pieces together in terms of projecting rosters years down the line.

Novosad screwed us at the 11th hour. End of. Had he decommitted after a recruiting visit in the summer I think then you have to raise some eyebrows at the coaching staff, but he strung them along until the moment they literally couldn't do anything about it. I blame the coaching staff for plenty of things, but not this.

In the vast majority of cases you just kind of have to chalk it up as CFB being CFB, but in this specific case I think it's entirely appropriate to say screw you Novosad and move on.

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Well our staff put itself in the position to be strung along. No program should give a kid and his family the power over a program that we did. It was just stupid. Oregon is doing it the right way.

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Every program is in a position to be strung along. It just hits us harder, like it would every other Big 12 program, because we can't just pick and choose which QB we want.

Our "developmental" QB in the 2023 class was Sawyer Robertson. The staff did fine filling that vacancy and now our QB room is in solid shape entering the 2024 season. I think that's the ultimate takeaway here. Not to fire shots at the coaching staff for getting railroaded by an impulsive decision by an 18-year-old six hours before the recruiting window closed.

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Except you're leaving out the fact that we were turning decent quarterback prospects away in the prior class in order to make golden boy there happy. It was an epic fail that left egg on the entire staff's face. There is no other way to construe that. It doesn't need to be brought up continually, but sugarcoating it isn't necessary either. There were many red flags that Aranda should have picked up on in Novosad's recruitment, and he got played like a fiddle. That's all I'll say on the topic because it really is beating a dead horse at this point

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"Epic fail" is a hilarious overstatement anyway. Unless you can show me the receipts of who we "turned down," and what those conversations actually looked like, and whether those players would've been any better than what we got with Robertson less than a month later, I have no reason to dive any deeper into this fetid rabbit hole with you.

If Novosad didn't want to come to Baylor, he had 16 months to make that call. He chose to make it within 12 hours of the recruiting window snapping shut behind him on his way out the door. Absolving the kid of that duplicity and squaring it on the coaching staff is just an agenda at that point.