https://www.heartlandcollegesports.com/2024/05/27/social-media-reacts-to-utahs-reported-acc-interest/

Note: also posted in MBB forum

Why? So they can just get invited back to the big 12 when the ACC inevitably dissolves once Florida State and Clemson leave?

I don't think you can count on this type of twittersphere sourced realignment stuff at all.

I can imagine some in Utah want to differentiate from being in the same league as BYU akin to A&M & Texas in the past and TCU trying to stay one step ahead of SMU. I don't see the advantage of switching leagues for Utah other than the slight chance it would put them in a better positioning for the Big 10, but with realignment anything can happen.

It's difficult to see the future.

But, it's likely that only one of the Big 12/ACC will survive as a top line conference after the next round of realignment. If true, it makes sense for each of those conferences to try to be as strong as they can be, however, the challenge is that it's a big unclear how many teams the SEC/B1G will take from the ACC - i.e. will it be limited to FSU, Clemson, UVA, UNC, Stanford, and Notre Dame or will it be more? That question creates uncertainty on the part of the programs in each of the Big 12/ACC and that uncertainty will continue until the issue is resolved.

What is easy to see here is that the Big 12 losing Utah would be massive in the sense that (1) Utah isn't replaceable in the marketplace and (2) would strengthen the chances that the ACC outlives the Big 12 as a top line conference.

Not serious.
Makes zero sense.
Why get less money from an ACC that may not be around in its present form as CFB morphs?

The only possible reasons would involve associations with AAU schools, but Arizona State joined the AAU last year, so all 4 corners schools are AAU members except for BYU.

UTExan said:

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Not serious.
Makes zero sense.
Why get less money from an ACC that may not be around in its present form as CFB morphs?

The only possible reasons would involve associations with AAU schools, but Arizona State joined the AAU last year, so all 4 corners schools are AAU members except for BYU.

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To be fair, BYU isn't four corners and all of the four corners are AAU.

Yeah, it's from a 4 corners state, so I did include it.
Difficult to say why the ACC would have interest in Utah unless some other factors are at play.

As I said on the thread on the basketball board, that program (and its fanbase) is a clown show. Let them go to the Frankensteined ACC or go suck hind tit in the Big Ten (not gonna happen). They don't want to be in the Big 12, and no Big 12 fan will miss them.

I don't care one way or the other about whether they do or don't. I do think it would be funny though if they did go to the ACC and then aren't picked up by anyone if the ACC collapses. Btw I don't think being AAU automatically means the B10 wants you. You still have to add value to every other current member.

Well, take it for what it's worth, but here is the Utehub story:
https://www.utehub.com/forums/topic/greg-flugaur-talks-about-potential-for-utah-to-b1g/#post-216272

" Everyone should watch this (Greg Flugaur). I realize during the whole P12 implosion, all of us Utah fans blew this guy off as not being legitimate. But he's proven to have legitimate inside B1G sources at every step of the way through the latest round of realignment. He was the 1st one to break the story of USC leaving the P12 and he was right on the money about the B12 beating out the P12 and the B12 poaching P12 teams to the implosion of the P12.

On tonight's show, he decided to talk about the whole Utah to the ACC story and explain why he didn't see it as being anything realistic. But then he talked about how Utah would be in play for the B1G after the B1G goes to the Southeast when FSU/Clemson leave the ACC. He explains that when it came out that USC was leaving the P12 for the B1G, he didn't know who was going to be coming with USC but just that USC was heading to the B1G. But he said that the one school USC wanted to go to the B1G with was Utah! The B1G wanted Stanford but Fox wanted UCLA, so UCLA was the school that made the pair to the B1G.

But in the podcast, Greg Flugaur talks about a potential scenario where if Notre Dame decided to finally leave Independence and join the B1G, there's a good possibility that Notre Dame would want to join with Utah! He shows a clip of one of Coach Whitt's press conferences where Whitt was saying that he felt Utah would eventually be back in the same place as UCLA and those matchups would happen again in the not too distant future. And Greg Flugaur explained that he could see why Whitt was making those statements. Because of all the teams out West that Flugaur's sources were talking about he said there was zero chatter around Cal…absolutely nothing at all. And outside of SC/UCLA/Oregon/Washington, the only team that there was chatter about out West was….UTAH!! He, of course, made the point that there's no guarantees of anything when talking about future realignment. But he validated that if after the B1G goes to the Southeast and is at 22 teams, Utah would definitely be in play at that point for the B1G.

Start at the 48 min mark and watch for about 15 or 20 min…awesome stuff!"

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Nobody knows what will ultimately happen with CFB realignments, of course.

If the Big 10 had wanted them, they would have taken them before. It's not like they didn't have plenty of opportunities. I don't take these kinds of rumors too seriously but if anyone in SLC is really thinking about this it's idiotic & suicidal. They would likely end up in the same position as Oregon State & Washington State, maybe worse because it would be entirely their own fault.

Yes Utah is the center of the football universe.

That is a response to the long quote that was posted by the Utah guy here. Not to the actual Utah guy here. That long quote he posted was quite the "everyone wants Utah but only the XII for some reason has offered so far". Just a weird way to be in denial is how I saw it.

Notre Dame goes to the BIG with Utah and not Stanford, LOL

Utah is a further West Oklahoma State with a few more winning seasons in a conference that no longer exists. Their admin released a statement denying any attempt to move to the ACC saying they're fully committed to Big12.

Aberzombie1892 said:

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It's difficult to see the future.

But, it's likely that only one of the Big 12/ACC will survive as a top line conference after the next round of realignment. If true, it makes sense for each of those conferences to try to be as strong as they can be, however, the challenge is that it's a big unclear how many teams the SEC/B1G will take from the ACC - i.e. will it be limited to FSU, Clemson, UVA, UNC, Stanford, and Notre Dame or will it be more? That question creates uncertainty on the part of the programs in each of the Big 12/ACC and that uncertainty will continue until the issue is resolved.

What is easy to see here is that the Big 12 losing Utah would be massive in the sense that (1) Utah isn't replaceable in the marketplace and (2) would strengthen the chances that the ACC outlives the Big 12 as a top line conference.

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So you value an ACC without Clemson, FSU, and Miami, with the addition of Utah, higher than the current Big 12???

ScrappyPaws said:

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Aberzombie1892 said:

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It's difficult to see the future.

But, it's likely that only one of the Big 12/ACC will survive as a top line conference after the next round of realignment. If true, it makes sense for each of those conferences to try to be as strong as they can be, however, the challenge is that it's a big unclear how many teams the SEC/B1G will take from the ACC - i.e. will it be limited to FSU, Clemson, UVA, UNC, Stanford, and Notre Dame or will it be more? That question creates uncertainty on the part of the programs in each of the Big 12/ACC and that uncertainty will continue until the issue is resolved.

What is easy to see here is that the Big 12 losing Utah would be massive in the sense that (1) Utah isn't replaceable in the marketplace and (2) would strengthen the chances that the ACC outlives the Big 12 as a top line conference.

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So you value an ACC without Clemson, FSU, and Miami, with the addition of Utah, higher than the current Big 12???

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That hypothetically does not seem likely in the slightest for several reasons, however, in a scenario where it's the ACC minus Clemson/FSU/Miami vs. Big 12 minus Utah, the ACC would very likely be more valuable to media partners - the combination of NC State, UNC, UVA, VaTech, Stanford, ND (partial), Utah, etc. with the population/media differences between the footprints of the conferences would be the difference.

I am for any scenario which would move those prima donna's along. We've already done our time with one overbearing opponent.....not looking for another.

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I am for any scenario which would move those prima donna's along. We've already done our time with one overbearing opponent.....not looking for another.

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Utah has no juice so it doesn't bother me. They can pretend all they want but it won't amount to anything.

case in point - ut was a prima donna and bullied the rest of the conference because they had revenue and history to back it up.

Utah is driving a Chrysler 300 pretending it's a Phantom and they can't bully *****

Yeah, I'm failing to understand why Utah flaunts itself as though it were a blue blood program when in point of fact, they should be grateful to even be a P4 team.

The sheer hubris of that school and their feeling of "settling" for the Big 12 is insufferable. I hope that they get their butts kicked this season.

CaliBear00 said:

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Yeah, I'm failing to understand why Utah flaunts itself as though it were a blue blood program when in point of fact, they should be grateful to even be a P4 team.

The sheer hubris of that school and their feeling of "settling" for the Big 12 is insufferable. I hope that they get their butts kicked this season.

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The berkeley attitude got them there. Hell they were the ones pushing a $50m tv deal that killed the pac12

Looks like the Mormon propoganda machine has done an excellent job in convincing everyone that Utah is the damn devil.

Stefano DiMera said:

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Looks like the Mormon propoganda machine has done an excellent job in convincing everyone that Utah is the damn devil.

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Utah fans have done it to themselves. They've been insufferable throughout this entire process. All BYU has done is sit back, say "I told you so" and seen its own perception improve by comparison.

I think we get pulled offsides by these quack websites and bloggers reporting mostly nonsense.

I enjoy that BYU and Utah have this hate at the fan level. That can only help the conference.

But Ive seen nor heard anything from the administration level that Utah isn't all in on the Big 12. Arizona and Arizona State is another thing.

The strongly worded statement by the Utah President on the above report pretty much confirms that.

But . don't get it twisted..a wise man once said about marriage..'youre only as faithful as your options '..if any school including us ..had an invitation to the Power 2...they'd move so fast it would stun a mastadon.

Stefano DiMera said:

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I think we get pulled offsides by these quack websites and bloggers reporting mostly nonsense.

I enjoy that BYU and Utah have this hate at the fan level. That can only help the conference.

But Ive seen nor heard anything from the administration level that Utah isn't all in on the Big 12. Arizona and Arizona State is another thing.

The strongly worded statement by the Utah President on the above report pretty much confirms that.

But . don't get it twisted..a wise man once said about marriage..'youre only as faithful as your options '..if any school including us ..had an invitation to the Power 2...they'd move so fast it would stun a mastadon.

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They were ride or die with the Pac12 until the Big 10 put a bullet through their head

Give me a break https://t.co/R3FM73ud1k

— Mark Harlan (@MarkHarlan_AD) March 10, 2023

We are not leaving… https://t.co/qU0kc2Into

— Mark Harlan (@MarkHarlan_AD) December 6, 2022

BylrFan said:

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Stefano DiMera said:

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I think we get pulled offsides by these quack websites and bloggers reporting mostly nonsense.

I enjoy that BYU and Utah have this hate at the fan level. That can only help the conference.

But Ive seen nor heard anything from the administration level that Utah isn't all in on the Big 12. Arizona and Arizona State is another thing.

The strongly worded statement by the Utah President on the above report pretty much confirms that.

But . don't get it twisted..a wise man once said about marriage..'youre only as faithful as your options '..if any school including us ..had an invitation to the Power 2...they'd move so fast it would stun a mastadon.

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They were ride or die with the Pac12 until the Big 10 put a bullet through their head

Give me a break https://t.co/R3FM73ud1k

— Mark Harlan (@MarkHarlan_AD) March 10, 2023

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And Whittingham's comments about joining the Big 12 were tepid at best. Basically insinuated it was a temporary arrangement.

The Utah people have acted like they're above our league from from top to bottom.

BYU, Utah, Colorado, and Wyoming would be a nice collection of western schools to pair with Arizona and Arizona State. Try to get Nebraska back.

Realitybites said:

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BYU, Utah, Colorado, and Wyoming would be a nice collection of western schools to pair with Arizona and Arizona State. Try to get Nebraska back.

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You make $100,000 a year at your job .
You gonna take the same job at another company for $48,000?

I didn't realize that Utah was on par with UT and OU

#Utah is the #Big12's flagship program. pic.twitter.com/LXruHB5SjD

— Message Board Geniuses (@BoardGeniuses) June 12, 2024

It would be nice to see them with a losing record at the end of the season. If it happens, someone needs to throw this guy's arrogant words back in his face.

"Flagship program"

I nearly spit out my coffee reading that.