25,750

That sucks, but I'm not surprised

More than Stanford?

Holy Kevin steele home game attendance

Fre3dombear said:

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More than Stanford?

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Only 11,000 less than Stanford

Per their performance against UNLV they didn't even deserve that many.

Tickets sold I assume...that means 15k were there.

It often seems that Houston fans just don't care that much, even when they are good. I don't recall clearly, but did their football team draw large crowds when they had good seasons under one recent coach? His name escapes me but he did end up at Texas.

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It often seems that Houston fans just don't care that much, even when they are good. I don't recall clearly, but did their football team draw large crowds when they had good seasons under one recent coach? His name escapes me but he did end up at Texas.

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Their crowds were better under Sumlin and Herman, but they've always struggled with attendance. They don't quite rival SMU for lack of fan interest, but it's far lower than it should be given what they've accomplished in the big two sports in the modern era.

That's what I thought.

Commuter school gonna commuter school

It has been a long while, but Houston played their home games in the Astrodome to accommodate their fans.

Interestingly, SMU played in Texas Stadium during that same time period.

By the time the Big12 was formed, neither school could generate home game crowds large enough to justify a spot in the conference.

It's hard when you get tossed into the wilderness and have very inconsistent play. They were a dump when Briles showed up so that hurts a generation of fandom. Briles started winning and Sumlin and Herman won more with some mediocrity mixed in between.

They also aren't the only show in town which hurts a lot. If you're a parent and can take your kid to a Texans game, a 6A high school game, or UH game which would you pick? Boise State is THE show in Boise and the surrounding area. People in Katy would probably rather watch Katy and maybe catch the odd Texans game. App State is THE show in Western North Carolina. Great turnout. Beautiful stadium. Also Houston is massive. Boise and Boone area are not. Easy to get around.

If UH had been able have Case Keemun success before the Texans showed up I wonder if they'd struggle as much as they do

Stefano DiMera said:

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Tickets sold I assume...that means 15k were there.

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Big 12 should have added Texas State over Houston. All they need is to do is expand stadium and raise a lot more money. Better Big 12 cultural and geographic fit to take over after UT left. Good volleyball, softball and most of the time baseball add. Wouldn't add MBB or WBB though.

Houston students and alums are vastly just…ghetto.

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historian said:

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It often seems that Houston fans just don't care that much, even when they are good. I don't recall clearly, but did their football team draw large crowds when they had good seasons under one recent coach? His name escapes me but he did end up at Texas.

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Their crowds were better under Sumlin and Herman, but they've always struggled with attendance. They don't quite rival SMU for lack of fan interest, but it's far lower than it should be given what they've accomplished in the big two sports in the modern era.

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They also had coach in the mid 00's that had some success. He also took a job in the Big 12. His name escapes me for some reason

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bear2be2 said:

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historian said:

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It often seems that Houston fans just don't care that much, even when they are good. I don't recall clearly, but did their football team draw large crowds when they had good seasons under one recent coach? His name escapes me but he did end up at Texas.

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Their crowds were better under Sumlin and Herman, but they've always struggled with attendance. They don't quite rival SMU for lack of fan interest, but it's far lower than it should be given what they've accomplished in the big two sports in the modern era.

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They also had coach in the mid 00's that had some success. He also took a job in the Big 12. His name escapes me for some reason

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Briles started the turnaround, but they reached much higher heights under both Sumlin and Herman. Briles wasn't at Houston long enough to get to that point.

I was told by a copious amount of UH supporters that just getting them into the Big 12 would just fix everything after SWC evaporated.

Conference affiliation would have a much larger impact to other regional G5s but at Houston Coogie High always gonna be a juvenile act.

FWIW, SMU's announced attendance for their game (admittedly against the Houston Christian Fightin' Preacherbobs) was only 27,080.

boykin_spaniel said:

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If UH had been able have Case Keemun success before the Texans showed up I wonder if they'd struggle as much as they do

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They had Andre Ware success not right before but not that long before the Texans came to Houston...and still

johnnychimpo said:

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boykin_spaniel said:

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If UH had been able have Case Keemun success before the Texans showed up I wonder if they'd struggle as much as they do

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They had Andre Ware success not right before but not that long before the Texans came to Houston...and still

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Andre was 1989. Oilers left town in 1996. Texans arrived in 2002.

As Whitetrash pointed out as the Oilers left the Cougs started their downward spiral. Ware was there late 80s. Texans 2002 pre Briles and Sumlin. Oilers left 1996 shortly after Big12 was founded and Houston was left out in the cold

Guys, UH was pulling this off long before the XII.

historian said:

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It often seems that Houston fans just don't care that much, even when they are good. I don't recall clearly, but did their football team draw large crowds when they had good seasons under one recent coach? His name escapes me but he did end up at Texas.

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Yes, like a bear2 said, the crowds were decent under Sumlin and Herman, but that's a relative term. they've always had attendance issues. In their defense, part of this is because they went years where they weren't really playing a lot of relevant local teams. None of our fans would care about playing Tulsa, Tulane, Temple etc. Houston is very much a pro sports city, the Texans are a hot ticket right now, and UH football is still fourth or fifth in the city behind LSU, A&M, and UT at the very least.

johnnychimpo said:

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I was told by a copious amount of UH supporters that just getting them into the Big 12 would just fix everything after SWC evaporated.

Conference affiliation would have a much larger impact to other regional G5s but at Houston Coogie High always gonna be a juvenile act.

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Despite much more attractive opponents and the excitement for the first year in a major conference, they managed one sellout last year: Texas.

Had UT not been on the schedule, their numbers would've been much lower, as that game was worked into all ticket packs. Without that boost again, their season ticket numbers are way down this year. Back to what I remember from the SWC, only in a smaller stadium than the Astrodome.

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historian said:

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It often seems that Houston fans just don't care that much, even when they are good. I don't recall clearly, but did their football team draw large crowds when they had good seasons under one recent coach? His name escapes me but he did end up at Texas.

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Yes, like a bear2 said, the crowds were decent under Sumlin and Herman, but that's a relative term. they've always had attendance issues. In their defense, part of this is because they went years where they weren't really playing a lot of relevant local teams. None of our fans would care about playing Tulsa, Tulane, Temple etc. Houston is very much a pro sports city, the Texans are a hot ticket right now, and UH football is still fourth or fifth in the city behind LSU, A&M, and UT at the very least.

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Those are good reasons for Houston NOT joining the conference.

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Daveisabovereproach said:

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historian said:

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It often seems that Houston fans just don't care that much, even when they are good. I don't recall clearly, but did their football team draw large crowds when they had good seasons under one recent coach? His name escapes me but he did end up at Texas.

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Yes, like a bear2 said, the crowds were decent under Sumlin and Herman, but that's a relative term. they've always had attendance issues. In their defense, part of this is because they went years where they weren't really playing a lot of relevant local teams. None of our fans would care about playing Tulsa, Tulane, Temple etc. Houston is very much a pro sports city, the Texans are a hot ticket right now, and UH football is still fourth or fifth in the city behind LSU, A&M, and UT at the very least.

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Those are good reasons for Houston NOT joining the conference.

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I didn't really want them. In fact, none of our additions from the first wave were very good except for BYU. just about everything that can be said about U of H can be said about Cincinnati and UCF

I didn't want them either. I thought the conference had enough schools from Texas. At least their MBB program is good.

Daveisabovereproach said:

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Daveisabovereproach said:

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historian said:

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It often seems that Houston fans just don't care that much, even when they are good. I don't recall clearly, but did their football team draw large crowds when they had good seasons under one recent coach? His name escapes me but he did end up at Texas.

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Yes, like a bear2 said, the crowds were decent under Sumlin and Herman, but that's a relative term. they've always had attendance issues. In their defense, part of this is because they went years where they weren't really playing a lot of relevant local teams. None of our fans would care about playing Tulsa, Tulane, Temple etc. Houston is very much a pro sports city, the Texans are a hot ticket right now, and UH football is still fourth or fifth in the city behind LSU, A&M, and UT at the very least.

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Those are good reasons for Houston NOT joining the conference.

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I didn't really want them. In fact, none of our additions from the first wave were very good except for BYU. just about everything that can be said about U of H can be said about Cincinnati and UCF

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Except that Cincy sells out every game for football (and has already sold out of hoops season tickets), and UCF sells out most games. There's one that's not like the other.

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At least their MBB program is good.

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Give it some time for Sampson and Landry's to pull out and they'll be on their way back to reality that they aren't that entirely too far away from.

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johnnychimpo said:

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Houston students and alums are vastly just…ghetto.

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Lol, what? Have you ever attended UH? Clearly not. They may not have Baylor money, but they're a far cry from ghetto. Are there poor/trashy people in the third ward surrounding UH? Yes of course, but they aren't students/alumni.