BYU up 13-0 over Jayhawks

Kansas scores 17-13

#18 Washington State goes down to a subpar New Mexico.

Jack Bauer said:

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#18 Washington State goes down to a subpar New Mexico.

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People frequently underestimate the unpredictability of November football.

BYU in some trouble. 7:17 left and they are down 17-13 and just punted to KU.

BYU had a horrible punt fumble that led to KU's go ahead TD

If the BYU WRs dont start catching these passes, Kansas is gonna beat them. 17-13 Kansas with about 7 minutes left

Week 12 ranked losses

#6 BYU (to Kansas)
#7 Tennessee (to #12 Georgia)
#16 K-State (to Arizona State)
#19 Louisville (to Stanford)
#22 LSU (to Florida)
#23 Mizzou (to #21 SC)

Jayhawks with the upset!!!

BYU just blew it on 4th. A minute left. They are going down to Kansas

BYU finally ran out of luck.

Great win by a Kansas team that is way better than its record would suggest.

New Big12 Standings

BYU 6-1
Colorado 6-1
Arizona State 5-2
Iowa State 5-2

Hypothetically if we had beaten Colorado, we would be tied for 2nd in the standings....UGH

KU out here knocking off the top of the conference. They beat ISU last week and BYU tonight.

If they upset Colo next week then they will be playing for bowl eligibility when they face us.

Following wins against #17 Iowa State and #6 BYU, Kansas has beaten ranked opponents in back-to-back weeks for the first time in program history. #TrustTheProcess pic.twitter.com/eqAiMV5QMW

— RedditCFB (@RedditCFB) November 17, 2024

bear2be2 said:

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boognish_bear said:

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3 Texas
4 Penn State
5 Indiana

These three teams have combined for zero good wins and they’re currently 60 percent of the top 5.

Schedule disparity is a huge problem in the super conference era.

— Brandon Walker (@BFW) November 16, 2024

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I called this a long time ago -- back when people were calling me stupid for preferring divisions.

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Do you mean divisions within conferences? How would that be better?

Big12Fan2024 said:

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Can someone tell me why the talking heads keep saying Tennessee is a lock for the CFP?


They've beaten:

UT Chattanooga
Kent
NC State (5-5)
OU (5-5)
Arkansas (5-5) (oops......they lost that one)
Florida (5-5)
Kentucky (4-6)
Mississippi St. (2-8)


The only team currently with a winning record they beat is Alabama. Other than Bama, their SEC wins are against 5 of the bottom 6 in the SEC standings.

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It's solely because they defeated Bama. Apparently the Saban mystique lives on, at least to some pundits.

Jack Bauer said:

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How did Texas get mediocre Michigan and the bottom half of the SEC on their schedule.
Their only tough game was Georgia (L). Now they need A&M to remain ranked so they can get a quality win.

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Michigan was better under Harbaugh and Texas probably scheduled that game years ago. Whatever we might say about Texas, no one can fault them on ooc. They usually have some good teams there. OK, they did have Maryland a few years ago. But they often have better games than Bama (WVU, Miami, etc).

historian said:

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bear2be2 said:

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boognish_bear said:

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3 Texas
4 Penn State
5 Indiana

These three teams have combined for zero good wins and they’re currently 60 percent of the top 5.

Schedule disparity is a huge problem in the super conference era.

— Brandon Walker (@BFW) November 16, 2024

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I called this a long time ago -- back when people were calling me stupid for preferring divisions.

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Do you mean divisions within conferences? How would that be better?

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Because everyone in each division would be playing the same schedule. The problem with these mega conferences is that schedule strengths are wildly disparate. Reaching the conference championship game is as much about who you play (or miss) as how you play in many cases.

The best way to do it would be to break into two or four divisions and play a four-team conference playoff at the end among those with the best division or pod records.

bear2be2 said:

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BYU finally ran out of luck.

Great win by a Kansas team that is way better than its record would suggest.

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KU has got to be the best 4-6 team in the country right now. That's at best going to be a tough last game - especially if they keep their streak of ranked team upsets going by beating Colorado next week and they're playing for bowl eligibility.

Johnny Bear said:

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bear2be2 said:

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BYU finally ran out of luck.

Great win by a Kansas team that is way better than its record would suggest.

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KU has got to be the best 4-6 team in the country right now. That's at best going to be a tough last game - especially if they keep their streak of ranked team upsets going by beating Colorado next week and they're playing for bowl eligibility.

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I would argue they have the best 4-6 team ever. They are one play away from winning five of the six games they lost and led in the fourth quarter of all of them, if I'm not mistaken.

bear2be2 said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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#18 Washington State goes down to a subpar New Mexico.

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People frequently underestimate the unpredictability of November football.

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We found out the hard way in 2013, 2014, etc.

bear2be2 said:

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historian said:

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bear2be2 said:

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boognish_bear said:

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3 Texas
4 Penn State
5 Indiana

These three teams have combined for zero good wins and they’re currently 60 percent of the top 5.

Schedule disparity is a huge problem in the super conference era.

— Brandon Walker (@BFW) November 16, 2024

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I called this a long time ago -- back when people were calling me stupid for preferring divisions.

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Do you mean divisions within conferences? How would that be better?

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Because everyone in each division would be playing the same schedule. The problem with these mega conferences is that schedule strengths are wildly disparate. Reaching the conference championship game is as much about who you play (or miss) as how you play in many cases.

The best way to do it would be to break into two or four divisions and play a four-team conference playoff at the end among those with the best division or pod records.

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That would work. I always thought the Big 12 model was best with 20 team conferences and round robin schedules. Everyone plays everyone else each year so it's clearer who is best. Even add a title game , like the B12 did recently for even greater clarity (supposedly). Basketball could have double round robin so every team would play a home & home with each other team annually.

bear2be2 said:

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BYU finally ran out of luck.

Great win by a Kansas team that is way better than its record would suggest.

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Yep, Ku is by far our best opponent remaining.

Depending on who we play in the bowl game

Johnny Bear said:

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bear2be2 said:

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BYU finally ran out of luck.

Great win by a Kansas team that is way better than its record would suggest.

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KU has got to be the best 4-6 team in the country right now. That's at best going to be a tough last game - especially if they keep their streak of ranked team upsets going by beating Colorado next week and they're playing for bowl eligibility.

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This is the Kansas team everyone expected to see before the season started. Just took them a long time to right the ship for some reason.

Hadn't been visiting here for some time. Been such a frustrating Season for my KU boys. Your right we are now playing the way we should have been all year. --Saw a stat during a game which I pretty well already knew that in 5 out of our 6 losses we were leading in the 4th qtr and found a way to lose, but have got it turned around thank goodness.

Now some of you might laugh but I'm gonna say this anyways I think we have a very legit shot at beating Colorado this coming week, playing much better still have a shot at some kind of bowl lol , but these last weeks we just mud stomped Houston -should of beaten a ranked K/State team, even their inside people talked about how we out played them in every phase -29-27 , we beat a ranked Iowa State team where we tripled the yardage they normally give up--- like we had 536 yards , against their Nationally ranked defense , then last night our defense stood up when it was needed the most their last drive - - played well holding them to 13 points as our offense didn't really do squat but found a way.

Just a Season of what if's BUT, Coach's was catching heat early in the year, I just said to group took a little longer for the offense to catch on to Grimes offense - -got it going now Devin Neal is over 4,000 yards rusing in his career now , jalen has remained healthy , and a cannon of an arm, hope we can finish---hopeful

Jayballer said:

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Now some of you might laugh but I'm gonna say this anyways I think we have a very legit shot at beating Colorado this coming week, playing much better still have a shot at some kind of bowl lol

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Why would we laugh? There's really not a ton of separation between the best and worst teams in this conference. Which is what makes this conference fun to watch. There just aren't any complete mismatches. With the roll you guys are on there's no reason to think you can't hang with or beat CU. CU is playing well but so are you.

The Jayhawks have decided if they can't have nice things, no one else in the Big 12 can, either... pic.twitter.com/Gg8ewYw7ix

— RedditCFB (@RedditCFB) November 17, 2024

BYU losing likely costs the Big12 a bye and locks us in as a one bid conference this year.

The super conferences are definitely going to create some unhappy teams that miss out on a conference title game because they drew an unexpected muderers row while a team one game ahead of them played a triple digit ranked schedule.

Imagine if Oregon had lost to Wisconsin last night and tOSU beats Indiana next week for a 4 way tie. Ducks and buckeyes probably advance there to little noise but imagine if Indiana beats tOSU and proceeds to lose to Purdue in their finale

Big12Fan2024 said:

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Jayballer said:

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Now some of you might laugh but I'm gonna say this anyways I think we have a very legit shot at beating Colorado this coming week, playing much better still have a shot at some kind of bowl lol

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Why would we laugh? There's really not a ton of separation between the best and worst teams in this conference. Which is what makes this conference fun to watch. There just aren't any complete mismatches. With the roll you guys are on there's no reason to think you can't hang with or beat CU. CU is playing well but so are you.

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Well said. And you are correct. We came withing a blocked FG that turned into a TD of beating BYU and a pouring rain 50ish yard Hail Mary of beating Colorado. With the 800lb ogre UT gone forever (hopefully), this Big 12 is fun!

Nebraska is 0-8 last 2 years after 5th win & needing 1 more for bowl eligibility

L 17-20 at Mich St '23
L 10-13 Maryland '23
L 17-24 at Wisconsin '23
L 10-13 Iowa '23
L 7-56 at Indiana '24
L 17-21 at Ohio St '24
L 20-27 UCLA '24
L 20-28 at USC '24

— Brett McMurphy (@Brett_McMurphy) November 17, 2024

boognish_bear said:

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Twenty five minutes until kick. pic.twitter.com/n3jBWwMWnx

— Tom Shatel (@tomshatelOWH) November 16, 2024

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If that ain't a wake up call for CLR I don't know what is.

Some Irish fan posted an article from this summer on the SC board claiming that CLR is being seen as a guy who just wants the easiest path to a playoff berth. The Irish fan says he left what was a mediocre Big XII conference (his words not mine) and went to a PAC conference that had a couple of good teams (Oregon usually one of them), followed by a couple of other okay teams, and then #5 on down very average to mediocre. Very similar to the XII actually.

Except it seems coach bought in that it would be easy. Oops. I guess not.

For some reason, after a great first year, he wasn't consistent with PAC teams. And now, he's losing to lower tier Big Ten teams (at least he beat Nebraska yesterday). It's not as easy as he thought apparently.

So according to the Irish, he left an average XII conference, got to USC, eventually wanted out of the LSU game (which I hadn't read, but who knows?) and now we're not playing a home and away with Ole Miss that was scheduled (which he didn't seem to have a problem seeing go by the wayside either). The Irish fan was especially taken aback by him questioning the future of the USC/ND rivalry once the most recent contract is up for renewal in a couple of years.

If all that this Irish fan is saying is true, and I tend to believe it is true since I saw another article that said much the same thing, what gives with this guy. The latter article pointing out that USC, historically, is not one to dodge anyone. But now all of a sudden?

If dude goes back to the XII I'm fine with that. We need someone who bleeds Cardinal and Gold, and gets USC. And that starts with not shying away from tough teams, and it certainly doesn't mean eliminating the ND game. And with the sanctions (based on coaching issues) that SC is facing now, the Trojans have been given what is being seen as a "get out from under CLR free card." Which could also save the contract buyout too.

After winning in Provo, beating Colorado at home is definitely a possibility. IIRC, that game will be in the KC Chiefs' stadium. Has playing there helped any with the atmosphere for the Jayhawks?