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No, just no. Memphis isn't a a good brand. The literally offer nothing, they're a net negative. Not even their basketball programs bring much to the table. Memphis is the school people go to when they couldn't get into UT or Vanderbilt.

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Baylor is the school people go to when they can't get into Texas, A&M, or Rice.

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I guess we all know now to put this guy on ignore. Not sure if you're a troll from another school, or just a huge jerk. I'm sorry you wasted your time at Baylor and didn't go to UT like you dreamed

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No, just no. Memphis isn't a a good brand. The literally offer nothing, they're a net negative. Not even their basketball programs bring much to the table. Memphis is the school people go to when they couldn't get into UT or Vanderbilt.

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Baylor is the school people go to when they can't get into Texas, A&M, or Rice.

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"Texas A&M has a 63.1% acceptance rate…This acceptance rate classifies Texas A&M as a moderately selective institution…."

It's literally got a higher acceptance rate than Baylor. And 68,000k people on campus.

I have never in my life met someone who got rejected for admission by A&M

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Have to correct those aggy numbers..there are now a whopping 72,560 students squeezed onto the aggy campus

1977. I was accepted at Wake, UNC, Emory and Baylor. Wake was far and away my first choice. Dad said I could do what I wanted but he'd be paying for Baylor. I studied my options, and my bank account, and made a rational decision. From my perspective today, it turns out Dad knew what the hell he was doing even when I didn't.

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No, just no. Memphis isn't a a good brand. The literally offer nothing, they're a net negative. Not even their basketball programs bring much to the table. Memphis is the school people go to when they couldn't get into UT or Vanderbilt.

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Baylor is the school people go to when they can't get into Texas, A&M, or Rice.

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"Texas A&M has a 63.1% acceptance rate…This acceptance rate classifies Texas A&M as a moderately selective institution…."

It's literally got a higher acceptance rate than Baylor. And 68,000k people on campus.

I have never in my life met someone who got rejected for admission by A&M

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Really? If you're not top 10% you won't get into A&M. I know plenty of my kids' friends who tried and didn't make it. Still got a good shot at Baylor if you'll stroke the check.

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No, just no. Memphis isn't a a good brand. The literally offer nothing, they're a net negative. Not even their basketball programs bring much to the table. Memphis is the school people go to when they couldn't get into UT or Vanderbilt.

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Baylor is the school people go to when they can't get into Texas, A&M, or Rice.

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I guess we all know now to put this guy on ignore. Not sure if you're a troll from another school, or just a huge jerk. I'm sorry you wasted your time at Baylor and didn't go to UT like you dreamed

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Just not into the Baylor faux snobbery.

They might have dorms on the main campus which is on the far north side of the city. It's near Fiesta Texas (for those familiar with SA). The downtown campus, so far as I know, has zero dorms. It is strictly for commuters and does not have much room for growth.

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No, just no. Memphis isn't a a good brand. The literally offer nothing, they're a net negative. Not even their basketball programs bring much to the table. Memphis is the school people go to when they couldn't get into UT or Vanderbilt.

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Baylor is the school people go to when they can't get into Texas, A&M, or Rice.

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"Texas A&M has a 63.1% acceptance rate…This acceptance rate classifies Texas A&M as a moderately selective institution…."

It's literally got a higher acceptance rate than Baylor. And 68,000k people on campus.

I have never in my life met someone who got rejected for admission by A&M

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Really? If you're not top 10% you won't get into A&M..

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Yes you will…it's laughable you think everyone going to A&M is a top 10% kid. Or that it's very hard to get it

It's literally classified as a "moderately selective" university

It's accepts 63% of all the kids that apply there. And a heck of a lot apply (since it's cheap and in Texas)

It gets 50,000 applications for a freshman class….30,000+ get in easily.

It's not even in the same ball park as Rice or ut-Austin

Increasingly Baylor is solidly beating A&M in that category

Almost 40% of our incoming classes are top 10% kids. And we have a significantly lower admissions rate (aka harder to get in)

[According to acceptancerate.com, 45.3% of applicants from 34,600 cracked Baylor's Fall admissions. These include both state and out-of-state students.

The selectivity for Baylor is generally high with many students scoring high on their SAT or ACT tests.

Major highlights and trends from the Baylor University acceptance rate:

38.7% of freshmen entering in the First Year were in the top 10 per cent of their high school graduating class]

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They wind up at a different top 100 university? My, how tragic!

You didn't think this through very well. I'm guessing you went to UTSA.

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I went to Baylor, but I got into all the other three. That makes me quite rare among people who went to Baylor.

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He didn't go to Baylor…its obvious he went to A&M

It's a tell when Aggys try to imply their college is in the same league as Rice or ut-Austin

Rice University: 7% acceptable rate (88% of admitted students came from the top 10% of their high school class)

ut-Austin: 29.1% acceptance rate. (They just dropped their admission rate down to only the top 5% of high school graduates)


Aggy: 63% acceptance rate ……lololololol

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No, just no. Memphis isn't a a good brand. The literally offer nothing, they're a net negative. Not even their basketball programs bring much to the table. Memphis is the school people go to when they couldn't get into Mississippi St or Middle Tennessee.

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I agree with the sentiment, but with Memphis being in a different state the number of people applying to both are not high. The people who get rejected by Mississippi State go to community college. I was a Mississippi State fan before attending Baylor, and I will say it is hard to get rejected by them. It takes a 2.0 GPA on the required college prep courses and an 18 on the ACT.

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No, just no. Memphis isn't a a good brand. The literally offer nothing, they're a net negative. Not even their basketball programs bring much to the table. Memphis is the school people go to when they couldn't get into UT or Vanderbilt.

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Baylor is the school people go to when they can't get into Texas, A&M, or Rice.

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"Texas A&M has a 63.1% acceptance rate…This acceptance rate classifies Texas A&M as a moderately selective institution…."

It's literally got a higher acceptance rate than Baylor. And 68,000k people on campus.

I have never in my life met someone who got rejected for admission by A&M

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Really? If you're not top 10% you won't get into A&M..

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Yes you will…it's laughable you think everyone going to A&M is a top 10% kid. Or that it's very hard to get it

It's literally classified as a "moderately selective" university

It's accepts 63% of all the kids that apply there. And a heck of a lot apply (since it's cheap and in Texas)

It gets 50,000 applications for a freshman class….30,000+ get in easily.

It's not even in the same ball park as Rice or ut-Austin

Increasingly Baylor is solidly beating A&M in that category

Almost 40% of our incoming classes are top 10% kids. And we have a significantly lower admissions rate (aka harder to get in)

[According to acceptancerate.com, 45.3% of applicants from 34,600 cracked Baylor's Fall admissions. These include both state and out-of-state students.

The selectivity for Baylor is generally high with many students scoring high on their SAT or ACT tests.

Major highlights and trends from the Baylor University acceptance rate:

38.7% of freshmen entering in the First Year were in the top 10 per cent of their high school graduating class]

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You're clearly quite far removed from the college application process.

Most of A&M's freshman class was top 10%. Not true of Baylor. L

But if you want to take A&M off the list, then we can just say Baylor is for kids couldn't get into UT or Rice. Still a fair enough parallel to the faux snobbery.

I graduated summa from Baylor then highest honors from UT grad school. Got into Rice but didn't go. Got into A&M honors college but didn't want to be an Aggie.

Lots of Baylor people have somehow convinced themselves we are Vanderbilt. The snobbery is unattractive. If your kid is a little above average and you can write a check, you're in.

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The B10 killed the P12….

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B1G may have done the drowning but I sense ESPN ran the bath water.

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No, just no. Memphis isn't a a good brand. The literally offer nothing, they're a net negative. Not even their basketball programs bring much to the table. Memphis is the school people go to when they couldn't get into UT or Vanderbilt.

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Baylor is the school people go to when they can't get into Texas, A&M, or Rice.

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"Texas A&M has a 63.1% acceptance rate…This acceptance rate classifies Texas A&M as a moderately selective institution…."

It's literally got a higher acceptance rate than Baylor. And 68,000k people on campus.

I have never in my life met someone who got rejected for admission by A&M

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Really? If you're not top 10% you won't get into A&M..

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Yes you will…it's laughable you think everyone going to A&M is a top 10% kid. Or that it's very hard to get it

It's literally classified as a "moderately selective" university

It's accepts 63% of all the kids that apply there. And a heck of a lot apply (since it's cheap and in Texas)

It gets 50,000 applications for a freshman class….30,000+ get in easily.

It's not even in the same ball park as Rice or ut-Austin

Increasingly Baylor is solidly beating A&M in that category

Almost 40% of our incoming classes are top 10% kids. And we have a significantly lower admissions rate (aka harder to get in)

[According to acceptancerate.com, 45.3% of applicants from 34,600 cracked Baylor's Fall admissions. These include both state and out-of-state students.

The selectivity for Baylor is generally high with many students scoring high on their SAT or ACT tests.

Major highlights and trends from the Baylor University acceptance rate:

38.7% of freshmen entering in the First Year were in the top 10 per cent of their high school graduating class]

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You're clearly quite far removed from the college application process.

Most of A&M's freshman class was top 10%. Not true of Baylor. L

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[Of the freshman students admitted... 47% were among the top 10% of their graduating high school classes]

https://stories.tamu.edu/news/2024/09/27/demand-for-texas-am-education-at-all-time-high/

From Tamu's own sources

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No, just no. Memphis isn't a a good brand. The literally offer nothing, they're a net negative. Not even their basketball programs bring much to the table. Memphis is the school people go to when they couldn't get into UT or Vanderbilt.

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Baylor is the school people go to when they can't get into Texas, A&M, or Rice.

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"Texas A&M has a 63.1% acceptance rate…This acceptance rate classifies Texas A&M as a moderately selective institution…."

It's literally got a higher acceptance rate than Baylor. And 68,000k people on campus.

I have never in my life met someone who got rejected for admission by A&M

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Really? If you're not top 10% you won't get into A&M..

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Yes you will…it's laughable you think everyone going to A&M is a top 10% kid. Or that it's very hard to get it

It's literally classified as a "moderately selective" university

It's accepts 63% of all the kids that apply there. And a heck of a lot apply (since it's cheap and in Texas)

It gets 50,000 applications for a freshman class….30,000+ get in easily.

It's not even in the same ball park as Rice or ut-Austin

Increasingly Baylor is solidly beating A&M in that category

Almost 40% of our incoming classes are top 10% kids. And we have a significantly lower admissions rate (aka harder to get in)

[According to acceptancerate.com, 45.3% of applicants from 34,600 cracked Baylor's Fall admissions. These include both state and out-of-state students.

The selectivity for Baylor is generally high with many students scoring high on their SAT or ACT tests.

Major highlights and trends from the Baylor University acceptance rate:

38.7% of freshmen entering in the First Year were in the top 10 per cent of their high school graduating class]

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You're clearly quite far removed from the college application process.

Most of A&M's freshman class was top 10%. Not true of Baylor. L

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[Of the freshman students admitted... 47% were among the top 10% of their graduating high school classes]

https://stories.tamu.edu/news/2024/09/27/demand-for-texas-am-education-at-all-time-high/

From Tamu's own sources

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OK, I can use Google too. Appears it was 50% for college Station, which is what anybody is actually talking about, and the year before it was 59%. What kind of strange game are we playing here anyway?

No conference should mean no playoff. That needs to be a hard rule.

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They might have dorms on the main campus which is on the far north side of the city. It's near Fiesta Texas (for those familiar with SA). The downtown campus, so far as I know, has zero dorms. It is strictly for commuters and does not have much room for growth.

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ohhhh, i just assumed there was 1 campus in the city! i've never actually seen the campus before

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No, just no. Memphis isn't a a good brand. The literally offer nothing, they're a net negative. Not even their basketball programs bring much to the table. Memphis is the school people go to when they couldn't get into UT or Vanderbilt.

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Baylor is the school people go to when they can't get into Texas, A&M, or Rice.

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"Texas A&M has a 63.1% acceptance rate…This acceptance rate classifies Texas A&M as a moderately selective institution…."

It's literally got a higher acceptance rate than Baylor. And 68,000k people on campus.

I have never in my life met someone who got rejected for admission by A&M

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Really? If you're not top 10% you won't get into A&M..

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Yes you will…it's laughable you think everyone going to A&M is a top 10% kid. Or that it's very hard to get it

It's literally classified as a "moderately selective" university

It's accepts 63% of all the kids that apply there. And a heck of a lot apply (since it's cheap and in Texas)

It gets 50,000 applications for a freshman class….30,000+ get in easily.

It's not even in the same ball park as Rice or ut-Austin

Increasingly Baylor is solidly beating A&M in that category

Almost 40% of our incoming classes are top 10% kids. And we have a significantly lower admissions rate (aka harder to get in)

[According to acceptancerate.com, 45.3% of applicants from 34,600 cracked Baylor's Fall admissions. These include both state and out-of-state students.

The selectivity for Baylor is generally high with many students scoring high on their SAT or ACT tests.

Major highlights and trends from the Baylor University acceptance rate:

38.7% of freshmen entering in the First Year were in the top 10 per cent of their high school graduating class]

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You're clearly quite far removed from the college application process.

Most of A&M's freshman class was top 10%. Not true of Baylor. L

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[Of the freshman students admitted... 47% were among the top 10% of their graduating high school classes]

https://stories.tamu.edu/news/2024/09/27/demand-for-texas-am-education-at-all-time-high/

From Tamu's own sources

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OK, I can use Google too. Appears it was 50% for college Station, which is what anybody is actually talking about, and the year before it was 59%. What kind of strange game are we playing here anyway?

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No games....just trying to be accurate.

You started off saying "If you're not top 10% you won't get into A&M.."

But of course that is not true....the 63% acceptance rate for A&M and roughly half top 10% numbers prove there are LOTS of kids getting into A&M that are not top 10% from High School.

In fact A&M has a higher (aka easier) acceptance rate than Baylor does currently....despite getting far more applications since its a cheap State school. And it has a closer % of of top 10 kids on campus as does Baylor

You also apparently think A&M is in the same league as Rice or ut-austin when it comes to acceptance rates or number of kids who are top 10% from high school.

Rice of course having nearly 90% of kids on campus being top 10 from high school and a super low 7.9% acceptance rate puts it in another stratosphere higher than A&M

You're obviously an aggy grad attempting to try and put A&M in the realm of Rice and ut-austin...and down playing Baylor's increasing selective admissions and student quality

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They wind up at a different top 100 university? My, how tragic!

You didn't think this through very well. I'm guessing you went to UTSA.

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I went to Baylor, but I got into all the other three. That makes me quite rare among people who went to Baylor.

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That's not that rare. It applies to me, my best friend, and my brother, just to name a few, and I don't keep a wide social circle.

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No, just no. Memphis isn't a a good brand. The literally offer nothing, they're a net negative. Not even their basketball programs bring much to the table. Memphis is the school people go to when they couldn't get into UT or Vanderbilt.

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Baylor is the school people go to when they can't get into Texas, A&M, or Rice.

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"Texas A&M has a 63.1% acceptance rate…This acceptance rate classifies Texas A&M as a moderately selective institution…."

It's literally got a higher acceptance rate than Baylor. And 68,000k people on campus.

I have never in my life met someone who got rejected for admission by A&M

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Really? If you're not top 10% you won't get into A&M..

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Yes you will…it's laughable you think everyone going to A&M is a top 10% kid. Or that it's very hard to get it

It's literally classified as a "moderately selective" university

It's accepts 63% of all the kids that apply there. And a heck of a lot apply (since it's cheap and in Texas)

It gets 50,000 applications for a freshman class….30,000+ get in easily.

It's not even in the same ball park as Rice or ut-Austin

Increasingly Baylor is solidly beating A&M in that category

Almost 40% of our incoming classes are top 10% kids. And we have a significantly lower admissions rate (aka harder to get in)

[According to acceptancerate.com, 45.3% of applicants from 34,600 cracked Baylor's Fall admissions. These include both state and out-of-state students.

The selectivity for Baylor is generally high with many students scoring high on their SAT or ACT tests.

Major highlights and trends from the Baylor University acceptance rate:

38.7% of freshmen entering in the First Year were in the top 10 per cent of their high school graduating class]

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You're clearly quite far removed from the college application process.

Most of A&M's freshman class was top 10%. Not true of Baylor. L

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[Of the freshman students admitted... 47% were among the top 10% of their graduating high school classes]

https://stories.tamu.edu/news/2024/09/27/demand-for-texas-am-education-at-all-time-high/

From Tamu's own sources

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OK, I can use Google too. Appears it was 50% for college Station, which is what anybody is actually talking about, and the year before it was 59%. What kind of strange game are we playing here anyway?

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Your quote: "Really? If you're not top 10% you won't get into A&M."

A 40-50% margin of error lands you clearly in the "don't have a clue what you're talking about" camp.

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No, just no. Memphis isn't a a good brand. The literally offer nothing, they're a net negative. Not even their basketball programs bring much to the table. Memphis is the school people go to when they couldn't get into UT or Vanderbilt.

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Baylor is the school people go to when they can't get into Texas, A&M, or Rice.

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"Texas A&M has a 63.1% acceptance rate…This acceptance rate classifies Texas A&M as a moderately selective institution…."

It's literally got a higher acceptance rate than Baylor. And 68,000k people on campus.

I have never in my life met someone who got rejected for admission by A&M

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Really? If you're not top 10% you won't get into A&M..

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Yes you will…it's laughable you think everyone going to A&M is a top 10% kid. Or that it's very hard to get it

It's literally classified as a "moderately selective" university

It's accepts 63% of all the kids that apply there. And a heck of a lot apply (since it's cheap and in Texas)

It gets 50,000 applications for a freshman class….30,000+ get in easily.

It's not even in the same ball park as Rice or ut-Austin

Increasingly Baylor is solidly beating A&M in that category

Almost 40% of our incoming classes are top 10% kids. And we have a significantly lower admissions rate (aka harder to get in)

[According to acceptancerate.com, 45.3% of applicants from 34,600 cracked Baylor's Fall admissions. These include both state and out-of-state students.

The selectivity for Baylor is generally high with many students scoring high on their SAT or ACT tests.

Major highlights and trends from the Baylor University acceptance rate:

38.7% of freshmen entering in the First Year were in the top 10 per cent of their high school graduating class]

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Lots of Baylor people have somehow convinced themselves we are Vanderbilt. The snobbery is unattractive. If your kid is a little above average and you can write a check, you're in.

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Baylor is probably the LEAST snobby major private school out there right now.

Compared to USC, SMU, TCU, Vandy, Notre Dame, the Ivy leagues, etc.

We have a very down to earth student body and alumni base....and it trends more religious and middle class than those others mentioned.

You would know that if you actually went here or spent time on campus.

We are also pretty reasonable about our place in Academia....quality school that is getting better...over priced now in tuition terms.


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A&M who has a very similar student achievement profile as Baylor.....yet continues to think its in the same league as Rice or ut-Austin.


Baylor is just not that snobby for a private school.....while A&M has a massively over inflated ego and irrational opinion of itself

Are there 8 or 9 Memphis football fans?

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They wind up at a different top 100 university? My, how tragic!

You didn't think this through very well. I'm guessing you went to UTSA.

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I went to Baylor, but I got into all the other three. That makes me quite rare among people who went to Baylor.

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That's not that rare. It applies to me, my best friend, and my brother, just to name a few, and I don't keep a wide social circle.

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I've been told by the Rice alumni engagement folks and their former assistant Dean of admissions that typically about one kid in the entire Waco area is admitted in a given year. Typically a midway or a vanguard.
Don't know whether that's exactly true or not, but it's what I've been told.

And if you look at the larger statistics, there just cannot be very many.

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No, just no. Memphis isn't a a good brand. The literally offer nothing, they're a net negative. Not even their basketball programs bring much to the table. Memphis is the school people go to when they couldn't get into UT or Vanderbilt.

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Baylor is the school people go to when they can't get into Texas, A&M, or Rice.

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"Texas A&M has a 63.1% acceptance rate…This acceptance rate classifies Texas A&M as a moderately selective institution…."

It's literally got a higher acceptance rate than Baylor. And 68,000k people on campus.

I have never in my life met someone who got rejected for admission by A&M

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Really? If you're not top 10% you won't get into A&M..

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Yes you will…it's laughable you think everyone going to A&M is a top 10% kid. Or that it's very hard to get it

It's literally classified as a "moderately selective" university

It's accepts 63% of all the kids that apply there. And a heck of a lot apply (since it's cheap and in Texas)

It gets 50,000 applications for a freshman class….30,000+ get in easily.

It's not even in the same ball park as Rice or ut-Austin

Increasingly Baylor is solidly beating A&M in that category

Almost 40% of our incoming classes are top 10% kids. And we have a significantly lower admissions rate (aka harder to get in)

[According to acceptancerate.com, 45.3% of applicants from 34,600 cracked Baylor's Fall admissions. These include both state and out-of-state students.

The selectivity for Baylor is generally high with many students scoring high on their SAT or ACT tests.

Major highlights and trends from the Baylor University acceptance rate:

38.7% of freshmen entering in the First Year were in the top 10 per cent of their high school graduating class]

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Lots of Baylor people have somehow convinced themselves we are Vanderbilt. The snobbery is unattractive. If your kid is a little above average and you can write a check, you're in.

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Baylor is probably the LEAST snobby major private school out there right now.

Compared to USC, SMU, TCU, Vandy, Notre Dame, the Ivy leagues, etc.

We have a very down to earth student body and alumni base....and it trends more religious and middle class than those others mentioned.

You would know that if you actually went here or spent time on campus.

We are also pretty reasonable about place in Academia....quality school that is getting better...over priced now in tuition terms.


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A&M who has a very similar student achievement profile as Baylor.....yet continues to think its in the same league as Rice or ut-Austin.


Baylor is just not that snobby for a private school.....while A&M has a massively over inflated ego and irrational opinion of itself

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I was directly addressing a post on this thread, running down Memphis as a place people who could not get any into UT or Vanderbilt. My point is, that's a stupid way to analyze things, and it's pretty easy to say a very similar thing about Baylor.

I was wrong about the number of top 10% kids at A&M. I'm sorry that that upset you so much. But yes, I was incorrect about that.

Where did I say that A&M is on the same level as Rice?

And where did you get the idea that I'm some sort of great defender of Gomer nation?

If it makes you feel better, go back to my original post on the subject and just take A&M out of it. Roll with UT and Rice.

I think the general reaction on this thread does make the point that Baylor is a bit high on its own supply. A 25 ACT and a big enough checking account gives you a reasonable shot at matriculating.

If anybody's acting like Aggies around here, it's those of you losing your **** at the idea that Baylor is not Harvard on the Brazos.

REPORT: North Carolina is exploring a potential move from the ACC to the SEC, per @InsideCarolina😮https://t.co/acGuw7hhUY pic.twitter.com/MbwyHGqxJK

— On3 (@On3sports) July 24, 2025

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They wind up at a different top 100 university? My, how tragic!

You didn't think this through very well. I'm guessing you went to UTSA.

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I went to Baylor, but I got into all the other three. That makes me quite rare among people who went to Baylor.

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That's not that rare. It applies to me, my best friend, and my brother, just to name a few, and I don't keep a wide social circle.

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I've been told by the Rice alumni engagement folks and their former assistant Dean of admissions that typically about one kid in the entire Waco area is admitted in a given year. Typically a midway or a vanguard.
Don't know whether that's exactly true or not, but it's what I've been told.

And if you look at the larger statistics, there just cannot be very many.

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There is very little correlation between "number of Waco area students admitted to Rice" and "number of Baylor students admitted to [X]." Very few Baylor students come from the Waco area. Your stat on Rice would be true on any other city of Waco's size. Good grief man.

Rumor has it that West Virginia might be interested in the ACC. makes geographic sense.

So the Pac 12 is now the Pac 3 or maybe the "RAT PAC" ?

Grok summary

The University of Memphis has made a significant push to join the Big 12 Conference, offering a substantial financial and strategic package to secure membership. Here's a detailed breakdown of what Memphis has proposed to the Big 12, based on recent reports:
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Financial Offer:

• Sponsorship Commitments: Memphis proposed a financial package of up to $200 million to $250 million over five years, primarily through sponsorship commitments from corporate partners such as FedEx, AutoZone, and Lowe's. This would provide an estimated $2-3 million annually to each Big 12 school, significantly boosting conference revenue.si.comsports.yahoo.comheartlandcollegesports.com
• Forgoing Media Rights Revenue: Memphis offered to forgo its share of the Big 12's media rights revenue for at least five years, aligning with the remaining term of the conference's television deal with ESPN and Fox. This "no-risk" approach mirrors the model used by SMU when joining the ACC, ensuring no immediate financial burden on existing Big 12 members.sports.yahoo.comnytimes.comkslsports.com
• Revenue Sharing with Athletes: Memphis officials informed the Big 12 that they expect to share the full $20.5 million in revenue-sharing with their athletes by next year, demonstrating financial readiness to compete at a Power 4 level in the new revenue-sharing era post-House v. NCAA settlement.commercialappeal.comheartlandcollegesports.com

Strategic and Competitive Value:

• Strong Athletic Programs: Memphis has a competitive athletic profile, particularly in football and men's basketball. The football team, led by head coach Ryan Silverfield, has achieved a 21-5 record over the last two seasons (2023-2024), including bowl victories against Big 12 opponents Iowa State and West Virginia, and an upset over No. 17 Tulane in 2024. The men's basketball program, under coach Penny Hardaway, is a two-time NCAA Tournament national runner-up and is on track for a seventh consecutive 20-plus win season.si.comsi.com
• Regional Presence and Fan Base: Memphis brings a strong regional presence in the Southeast, with a passionate fan base and significant corporate backing from the city of Memphis. This was highlighted by university president Bill Hardgrave's efforts, including a letter of support from Tennessee Governor Bill Lee, emphasizing the backing of the entire state and major corporations.commercialappeal.com
• Market Value: Rated as the No. 75 most valuable athletics program in the country by CNBC, Memphis is competitive with some existing Power 4 programs and brings a strong brand outside the current Power 4 conferences.si.com

No-Risk Proposal Terms:

• Expulsion Clause: Memphis included a clause allowing the Big 12 to expel the Tigers after the 2030-31 season if the conference deems they are not adding sufficient value, reducing long-term risk for the Big 12.sports.yahoo.comnytimes.comkslsports.com
• Exit Fee Consideration: To leave the American Conference, Memphis would need to pay a $25 million exit fee, which they are prepared to cover, indicating their financial commitment to the move.sports.yahoo.comunderdogdynasty.comheartlandcollegesports.com

Precedent-Setting Approach:

• The proposal is described as one of the most aggressive in college athletics history, setting a potential standard for future conference expansion by using significant financial incentives to secure membership. It builds on the precedent set by SMU's entry into the ACC, which involved forgoing revenue but did not include additional sponsorship commitments.sports.yahoo.comathleticbusiness.com

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Despite these offerings, the Big 12 has rejected Memphis' proposal, citing a lack of sufficient support among the conference's presidents and chancellors (requiring a supermajority of 12 out of 16 votes). Concerns include the perceived lack of immediate competitive or brand value compared to recent additions like Cincinnati, UCF, Houston, and BYU, and the potential dilution of the conference's value in future television deals. Additionally, adding Memphis would increase the Big 12 to 17 teams, potentially complicating scheduling and requiring another addition to balance the league.si.comsports.yahoo.comnytimes.com
In summary, Memphis offered a lucrative, low-risk package with significant financial incentives, a competitive athletic profile, and strategic concessions to join the Big 12. However, the conference's leadership has not seen enough value to justify expansion at this time

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They wind up at a different top 100 university? My, how tragic!

You didn't think this through very well. I'm guessing you went to UTSA.

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I went to Baylor, but I got into all the other three. That makes me quite rare among people who went to Baylor.

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That's not that rare. It applies to me, my best friend, and my brother, just to name a few, and I don't keep a wide social circle.

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I've been told by the Rice alumni engagement folks and their former assistant Dean of admissions that typically about one kid in the entire Waco area is admitted in a given year. Typically a midway or a vanguard.
Don't know whether that's exactly true or not, but it's what I've been told.

And if you look at the larger statistics, there just cannot be very many.

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There is very little correlation between "number of Waco area students admitted to Rice" and "number of Baylor students admitted to [X]." Very few Baylor students come from the Waco area. Your stat on Rice would be true on any other city of Waco's size. Good grief man.

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It's an illustration of a county of about 300,000 people in Texas. You can extrapolate something from that. You can also extrapolate something from the number of people who actually get admitted to or go to school at Rice and the geographic breakdown of their class. Given as smart as you think you are, I think you could probably back your way into some of that.

How about the fact that the average ACT for Rice is a 35? They've only got like 4000 students undergrad, and less than half of those are even from Texas. Your odds of admission are pretty damn low, even if you meet their average standards. Yes, very few Baylor students were admitted to Rice.

Lots of McLennan County kids go to Baylor. Go add up the number just from Midway. Then you start to throw in Live Oak, Vanguard, Lorena, China Spring … yes a large number of McLennan County kids who are college bound, go to Baylor every year.

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They wind up at a different top 100 university? My, how tragic!

You didn't think this through very well. I'm guessing you went to UTSA.

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I went to Baylor, but I got into all the other three. That makes me quite rare among people who went to Baylor.

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That's not that rare. It applies to me, my best friend, and my brother, just to name a few, and I don't keep a wide social circle.

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I've been told by the Rice alumni engagement folks and their former assistant Dean of admissions that typically about one kid in the entire Waco area is admitted in a given year. Typically a midway or a vanguard.
Don't know whether that's exactly true or not, but it's what I've been told.

And if you look at the larger statistics, there just cannot be very many.

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There is very little correlation between "number of Waco area students admitted to Rice" and "number of Baylor students admitted to [X]." Very few Baylor students come from the Waco area. Your stat on Rice would be true on any other city of Waco's size. Good grief man.

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It's an illustration of a county of about 300,000 people in Texas. You can extrapolate something from that. You can also extrapolate something from the number of people who actually get admitted to or go to school at Rice and the geographic breakdown of their class. Given as smart as you think you are, I think you could probably back your way into some of that.

How about the fact that the average ACT for Rice is a 35? They've only got like 4000 students undergrad, and less than half of those are even from Texas. Your odds of admission are pretty damn low, even if you meet their average standards. Yes, very few Baylor students were admitted to Rice.

Lots of McLennan County kids go to Baylor. Go add up the number just from Midway. Then you start to throw in Live Oak, Vanguard, Lorena, China Spring … yes a large number of McLennan County kids who are college bound, go to Baylor every year.

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You can extrapolate nothing more than "Rice is selective." Everyone already knows that. Thus not only is it anecdote, not data, but it's especially worthless anecdote.

Given as smart as you think you are, I'd think you would realize that. But again, you've already commented on this thread with "stats" that were off by 40-50%, so I suppose I really shouldn't be surprised.

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They wind up at a different top 100 university? My, how tragic!

You didn't think this through very well. I'm guessing you went to UTSA.

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I went to Baylor, but I got into all the other three. That makes me quite rare among people who went to Baylor.

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That's not that rare. It applies to me, my best friend, and my brother, just to name a few, and I don't keep a wide social circle.

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I've been told by the Rice alumni engagement folks and their former assistant Dean of admissions that typically about one kid in the entire Waco area is admitted in a given year. Typically a midway or a vanguard.
Don't know whether that's exactly true or not, but it's what I've been told.

And if you look at the larger statistics, there just cannot be very many.

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There is very little correlation between "number of Waco area students admitted to Rice" and "number of Baylor students admitted to [X]." Very few Baylor students come from the Waco area. Your stat on Rice would be true on any other city of Waco's size. Good grief man.

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It's an illustration of a county of about 300,000 people in Texas. You can extrapolate something from that. You can also extrapolate something from the number of people who actually get admitted to or go to school at Rice and the geographic breakdown of their class. Given as smart as you think you are, I think you could probably back your way into some of that.

How about the fact that the average ACT for Rice is a 35? They've only got like 4000 students undergrad, and less than half of those are even from Texas. Your odds of admission are pretty damn low, even if you meet their average standards. Yes, very few Baylor students were admitted to Rice.

Lots of McLennan County kids go to Baylor. Go add up the number just from Midway. Then you start to throw in Live Oak, Vanguard, Lorena, China Spring … yes a large number of McLennan County kids who are college bound, go to Baylor every year.

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You can extrapolate nothing more than "Rice is selective." Everyone already knows that. Thus not only is it anecdote, not data, but it's especially worthless anecdote.

Given as smart as you think you are, I'd think you would realize that. But again, you've already commented on this thread with "stats" that were off by 40-50%, so I suppose I really shouldn't be surprised.

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Ha. Ok. At least one of us is capable of admitting to error.

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They wind up at a different top 100 university? My, how tragic!

You didn't think this through very well. I'm guessing you went to UTSA.

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I went to Baylor, but I got into all the other three. That makes me quite rare among people who went to Baylor.

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That's not that rare. It applies to me, my best friend, and my brother, just to name a few, and I don't keep a wide social circle.

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I've been told by the Rice alumni engagement folks and their former assistant Dean of admissions that typically about one kid in the entire Waco area is admitted in a given year. Typically a midway or a vanguard.
Don't know whether that's exactly true or not, but it's what I've been told.

And if you look at the larger statistics, there just cannot be very many.

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There is very little correlation between "number of Waco area students admitted to Rice" and "number of Baylor students admitted to [X]." Very few Baylor students come from the Waco area. Your stat on Rice would be true on any other city of Waco's size. Good grief man.

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It's an illustration of a county of about 300,000 people in Texas. You can extrapolate something from that. You can also extrapolate something from the number of people who actually get admitted to or go to school at Rice and the geographic breakdown of their class. Given as smart as you think you are, I think you could probably back your way into some of that.

How about the fact that the average ACT for Rice is a 35? They've only got like 4000 students undergrad, and less than half of those are even from Texas. Your odds of admission are pretty damn low, even if you meet their average standards. Yes, very few Baylor students were admitted to Rice.

Lots of McLennan County kids go to Baylor. Go add up the number just from Midway. Then you start to throw in Live Oak, Vanguard, Lorena, China Spring … yes a large number of McLennan County kids who are college bound, go to Baylor every year.

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You can extrapolate nothing more than "Rice is selective." Everyone already knows that. Thus not only is it anecdote, not data, but it's especially worthless anecdote.

Given as smart as you think you are, I'd think you would realize that. But again, you've already commented on this thread with "stats" that were off by 40-50%, so I suppose I really shouldn't be surprised.

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Ha. Ok. At least one of us is capable of admitting to error.

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When I make one, I'll be sure to fess up to it

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No, just no. Memphis isn't a a good brand. The literally offer nothing, they're a net negative. Not even their basketball programs bring much to the table. Memphis is the school people go to when they couldn't get into UT or Vanderbilt.

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Baylor is the school people go to when they can't get into Texas, A&M, or Rice.

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"Texas A&M has a 63.1% acceptance rate…This acceptance rate classifies Texas A&M as a moderately selective institution…."

It's literally got a higher acceptance rate than Baylor. And 68,000k people on campus.

I have never in my life met someone who got rejected for admission by A&M

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Really? If you're not top 10% you won't get into A&M..

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Yes you will…it's laughable you think everyone going to A&M is a top 10% kid. Or that it's very hard to get it

It's literally classified as a "moderately selective" university

It's accepts 63% of all the kids that apply there. And a heck of a lot apply (since it's cheap and in Texas)

It gets 50,000 applications for a freshman class….30,000+ get in easily.

It's not even in the same ball park as Rice or ut-Austin

Increasingly Baylor is solidly beating A&M in that category

Almost 40% of our incoming classes are top 10% kids. And we have a significantly lower admissions rate (aka harder to get in)

[According to acceptancerate.com, 45.3% of applicants from 34,600 cracked Baylor's Fall admissions. These include both state and out-of-state students.

The selectivity for Baylor is generally high with many students scoring high on their SAT or ACT tests.

Major highlights and trends from the Baylor University acceptance rate:

38.7% of freshmen entering in the First Year were in the top 10 per cent of their high school graduating class]

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Lots of Baylor people have somehow convinced themselves we are Vanderbilt. The snobbery is unattractive. If your kid is a little above average and you can write a check, you're in.

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Baylor is probably the LEAST snobby major private school out there right now.

Compared to USC, SMU, TCU, Vandy, Notre Dame, the Ivy leagues, etc.

We have a very down to earth student body and alumni base....and it trends more religious and middle class than those others mentioned.

You would know that if you actually went here or spent time on campus.

We are also pretty reasonable about place in Academia....quality school that is getting better...over priced now in tuition terms.


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A&M who has a very similar student achievement profile as Baylor.....yet continues to think its in the same league as Rice or ut-Austin.


Baylor is just not that snobby for a private school.....while A&M has a massively over inflated ego and irrational opinion of itself

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Where did I say that A&M is on the same level as Rice?

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"Baylor is the school people go to when they can't get into Texas, A&M, or Rice."- Robert Wilson


You are imply that A&M is as selective and hard to get into as Rice or ut-Austin


Of course in fact its easier to get into A&M than all those schools you mentioned... Rice (7.9% rate), ut-Austin (29% rate), and now Baylor with a 45% acceptance rate.


A more accurate statement for you to make would be: "A&M is the school people go to when they can't get into Texas, Baylor, or Rice"

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No, just no. Memphis isn't a a good brand. The literally offer nothing, they're a net negative. Not even their basketball programs bring much to the table. Memphis is the school people go to when they couldn't get into UT or Vanderbilt.

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Baylor is the school people go to when they can't get into Texas, A&M, or Rice.

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"Texas A&M has a 63.1% acceptance rate…This acceptance rate classifies Texas A&M as a moderately selective institution…."

It's literally got a higher acceptance rate than Baylor. And 68,000k people on campus.

I have never in my life met someone who got rejected for admission by A&M

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Really? If you're not top 10% you won't get into A&M..

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Yes you will…it's laughable you think everyone going to A&M is a top 10% kid. Or that it's very hard to get it

It's literally classified as a "moderately selective" university

It's accepts 63% of all the kids that apply there. And a heck of a lot apply (since it's cheap and in Texas)

It gets 50,000 applications for a freshman class….30,000+ get in easily.

It's not even in the same ball park as Rice or ut-Austin

Increasingly Baylor is solidly beating A&M in that category

Almost 40% of our incoming classes are top 10% kids. And we have a significantly lower admissions rate (aka harder to get in)

[According to acceptancerate.com, 45.3% of applicants from 34,600 cracked Baylor's Fall admissions. These include both state and out-of-state students.

The selectivity for Baylor is generally high with many students scoring high on their SAT or ACT tests.

Major highlights and trends from the Baylor University acceptance rate:

38.7% of freshmen entering in the First Year were in the top 10 per cent of their high school graduating class]

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Lots of Baylor people have somehow convinced themselves we are Vanderbilt. The snobbery is unattractive. If your kid is a little above average and you can write a check, you're in.

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Baylor is probably the LEAST snobby major private school out there right now.

Compared to USC, SMU, TCU, Vandy, Notre Dame, the Ivy leagues, etc.

We have a very down to earth student body and alumni base....and it trends more religious and middle class than those others mentioned.

You would know that if you actually went here or spent time on campus.

We are also pretty reasonable about place in Academia....quality school that is getting better...over priced now in tuition terms.


VS

A&M who has a very similar student achievement profile as Baylor.....yet continues to think its in the same league as Rice or ut-Austin.


Baylor is just not that snobby for a private school.....while A&M has a massively over inflated ego and irrational opinion of itself

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Where did I say that A&M is on the same level as Rice?

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"Baylor is the school people go to when they can't get into Texas, A&M, or Rice."- Robert Wilson


You are imply that A&M is as selective and hard to get into as Rice or ut-Austin


Of course in fact its easier to get into A&M than all those schools you mentioned... Rice (7.9% rate), ut-Austin (29% rate), and now Baylor with a 45% acceptance rate.


A more accurate statement for you to make would be: "A&M is the school people go to when they can't get into Texas, Baylor, or Rice"

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Oh ... so I didn't say it. In your mind, I "implied" it. Well thanks - that clears it up.

To be clear, A&M isn't nearly as selective as Rice nor as UT. Neither is Baylor. I still think A&M is a tougher get than Baylor, especially if you are willing to pay full Baylor rate, but let's just call it a draw. Or, hell, have it your way and imagine Baylor is more selective.

So if I'd have just said "Baylor is the school people go to when they can't get into UT or Rice," in order to parody the guy making fun of Memphis, you and I would not have had the pleasure of this entire ridiculous exchange?

Or you would've found another way to get butthurt?

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No, just no. Memphis isn't a a good brand. The literally offer nothing, they're a net negative. Not even their basketball programs bring much to the table. Memphis is the school people go to when they couldn't get into UT or Vanderbilt.

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Baylor is the school people go to when they can't get into Texas, A&M, or Rice.

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"Texas A&M has a 63.1% acceptance rate…This acceptance rate classifies Texas A&M as a moderately selective institution…."

It's literally got a higher acceptance rate than Baylor. And 68,000k people on campus.

I have never in my life met someone who got rejected for admission by A&M

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Really? If you're not top 10% you won't get into A&M..

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Yes you will…it's laughable you think everyone going to A&M is a top 10% kid. Or that it's very hard to get it

It's literally classified as a "moderately selective" university

It's accepts 63% of all the kids that apply there. And a heck of a lot apply (since it's cheap and in Texas)

It gets 50,000 applications for a freshman class….30,000+ get in easily.

It's not even in the same ball park as Rice or ut-Austin

Increasingly Baylor is solidly beating A&M in that category

Almost 40% of our incoming classes are top 10% kids. And we have a significantly lower admissions rate (aka harder to get in)

[According to acceptancerate.com, 45.3% of applicants from 34,600 cracked Baylor's Fall admissions. These include both state and out-of-state students.

The selectivity for Baylor is generally high with many students scoring high on their SAT or ACT tests.

Major highlights and trends from the Baylor University acceptance rate:

38.7% of freshmen entering in the First Year were in the top 10 per cent of their high school graduating class]

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Lots of Baylor people have somehow convinced themselves we are Vanderbilt. The snobbery is unattractive. If your kid is a little above average and you can write a check, you're in.

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Baylor is probably the LEAST snobby major private school out there right now.

Compared to USC, SMU, TCU, Vandy, Notre Dame, the Ivy leagues, etc.

We have a very down to earth student body and alumni base....and it trends more religious and middle class than those others mentioned.

You would know that if you actually went here or spent time on campus.

We are also pretty reasonable about place in Academia....quality school that is getting better...over priced now in tuition terms.


VS

A&M who has a very similar student achievement profile as Baylor.....yet continues to think its in the same league as Rice or ut-Austin.


Baylor is just not that snobby for a private school.....while A&M has a massively over inflated ego and irrational opinion of itself

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Where did I say that A&M is on the same level as Rice?

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"Baylor is the school people go to when they can't get into Texas, A&M, or Rice."- Robert Wilson


You are imply that A&M is as selective and hard to get into as Rice or ut-Austin


Of course in fact its easier to get into A&M than all those schools you mentioned... Rice (7.9% rate), ut-Austin (29% rate), and now Baylor with a 45% acceptance rate.


A more accurate statement for you to make would be: "A&M is the school people go to when they can't get into Texas, Baylor, or Rice"

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I still think A&M is a tougher get than Baylor, especially if you are willing to pay full Baylor rate, but let's just call it a draw.

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lol of course you do...you're an aggy

And its an easy thing to prove with actual facts. Lets pull them out and look

Baylor is HARDER to get into than A&M.....by your own schools admitted facts

Baylor: 2025- The acceptance rate of the freshman class was at a record-low 38.9 percent from a total of 37,084 applications

Texas A&M: Class of 2024- Applicants 43,307, admits 27,287, 63% acceptance rate

https://www.collegetransitions.com/blog/how-to-get-into-texas-am

https://magazine.web.baylor.edu/news/story/2024/freshman-class-exceeds-projections-sets-all-time-highs-diversity-selectivity

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No, just no. Memphis isn't a a good brand. The literally offer nothing, they're a net negative. Not even their basketball programs bring much to the table. Memphis is the school people go to when they couldn't get into UT or Vanderbilt.

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Baylor is the school people go to when they can't get into Texas, A&M, or Rice.

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"Texas A&M has a 63.1% acceptance rate…This acceptance rate classifies Texas A&M as a moderately selective institution…."

It's literally got a higher acceptance rate than Baylor. And 68,000k people on campus.

I have never in my life met someone who got rejected for admission by A&M

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Really? If you're not top 10% you won't get into A&M..

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Yes you will…it's laughable you think everyone going to A&M is a top 10% kid. Or that it's very hard to get it

It's literally classified as a "moderately selective" university

It's accepts 63% of all the kids that apply there. And a heck of a lot apply (since it's cheap and in Texas)

It gets 50,000 applications for a freshman class….30,000+ get in easily.

It's not even in the same ball park as Rice or ut-Austin

Increasingly Baylor is solidly beating A&M in that category

Almost 40% of our incoming classes are top 10% kids. And we have a significantly lower admissions rate (aka harder to get in)

[According to acceptancerate.com, 45.3% of applicants from 34,600 cracked Baylor's Fall admissions. These include both state and out-of-state students.

The selectivity for Baylor is generally high with many students scoring high on their SAT or ACT tests.

Major highlights and trends from the Baylor University acceptance rate:

38.7% of freshmen entering in the First Year were in the top 10 per cent of their high school graduating class]

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Lots of Baylor people have somehow convinced themselves we are Vanderbilt. The snobbery is unattractive. If your kid is a little above average and you can write a check, you're in.

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Baylor is probably the LEAST snobby major private school out there right now.

Compared to USC, SMU, TCU, Vandy, Notre Dame, the Ivy leagues, etc.

We have a very down to earth student body and alumni base....and it trends more religious and middle class than those others mentioned.

You would know that if you actually went here or spent time on campus.

We are also pretty reasonable about place in Academia....quality school that is getting better...over priced now in tuition terms.


VS

A&M who has a very similar student achievement profile as Baylor.....yet continues to think its in the same league as Rice or ut-Austin.


Baylor is just not that snobby for a private school.....while A&M has a massively over inflated ego and irrational opinion of itself

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Where did I say that A&M is on the same level as Rice?

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"Baylor is the school people go to when they can't get into Texas, A&M, or Rice."- Robert Wilson


You are imply that A&M is as selective and hard to get into as Rice or ut-Austin


Of course in fact its easier to get into A&M than all those schools you mentioned... Rice (7.9% rate), ut-Austin (29% rate), and now Baylor with a 45% acceptance rate.


A more accurate statement for you to make would be: "A&M is the school people go to when they can't get into Texas, Baylor, or Rice"

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I still think A&M is a tougher get than Baylor, especially if you are willing to pay full Baylor rate, but let's just call it a draw.

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lol of course you do...you're an aggy

And its an easy thing to prove with actual facts. Lets pull them out and look

Baylor is HARDER to get into than A&M.....by your own schools admitted facts

Baylor: 2025- The acceptance rate of the freshman class was at a record-low 38.9 percent from a total of 37,084 applications

Texas A&M: Class of 2024- Applicants 43,307, admits 27,287, 63% acceptance rate

https://www.collegetransitions.com/blog/how-to-get-into-texas-am

https://magazine.web.baylor.edu/news/story/2024/freshman-class-exceeds-projections-sets-all-time-highs-diversity-selectivity

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You're right. Acceptance rate is the entire analysis. Good work.

You'd make a helluvan aggy.