Why did Linda release that letter with two weeks to play?

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Robert Wilson
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PartyBear said:

Realistically a real and serious candidate probably no sooner than the start of the next semester at the earliest. Look a real current AD is not going to be able to start soon enough to make a coaching change this cycle, even if he or she can be named by Christmas.

Yep. Which means no one will blame the new AD for Aranda not being fired in the 2025 cycle.
boykin_spaniel
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Earliest would be they get named in a 2-3 weeks but aren't on campus until January or February and then they've got to learn the landscape.
Reverend
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And I guess your moniker fits. Clear your your head and read what I said.
Robert Wilson
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boykin_spaniel said:

Earliest would be they get named in a 2-3 weeks but aren't on campus until January or February and then they've got to learn the landscape.

Yep. No way we have an AD in place in time for the 2025 coach firing cycle, which means there's no way that retaining Aranda gets hung on the new AD.
IowaBear
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What's amazing is that you prefer Baylor keeps Dave.
Robert Wilson
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IowaBear said:

What's amazing is that you prefer Baylor keeps Dave.

Who are you talking to?
IowaBear
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Party. Thought that was fairly obvious
Robert Wilson
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IowaBear said:

Party. Thought that was fairly obvious

It was not. Thanks for the clarification.
Reverend
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Why is it a given that we have to have a new AD before we hire a new coach? Maybe in the old days. But today we need a friggin business man who can manage a multimillion dollar business and manage many things other than evaluating coaches. Those are two totally different skill sets. And today the former is much more important and difficult than the latter.

Baylor could put together a helluva blue ribbon committee right now for a coaching search.

And the AD who we ultimately hire would understand and shouldn't have a problem with it. McCaw didn't when we hired him a few weeks after we hired Drew.

I just think we need to get ahead of this impending disaster (its already a disaster, but it's going to get much worse) in our football program.
BUGWBBear
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Robert Wilson said:

As far as I can tell, there's nothing you actually need to say. Of course you are going to hire an athletic athletic director. I think everybody knows you need one. No need to say that. If you don't fire Dave, fine, don't fire Dave. Go privately tell him you are disappointed and he needs to do better.

Why say anything publicly at all? And if you feel like you have to say something, why make it haughty, preachy, out of touch double speak nonsense?

And beyond that, why release it when there are still two weeks left in the season? If your supposition is the players love Dave, maybe let them think they're playing for his job? And how do you look if you release that letter and then we get trucked the last two weeks?

Baylor is so poorly run, it boggles the mind.


To give Professor Proton a relief he's still employed because she's incompetent.
canoso
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Aberzombie1892 said:

IowaBear said:

Are you watching the games? Dave is done… there's zero point in waiting


No one is arguing otherwise. It should be the decision of the AD once the AD has been acclimated.
Speaking of climate, BU leadership, starting with the BOR, is where real climate change is essential.
boykin_spaniel
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Again, not saying I agreed with what was said, just saying why it was said. Baylor has always been great at holding a shotgun over its foot with a finger on the trigger.
Cove Dawg
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Stranger said:

PartyBear said:

We do not have an AD. Do you want Linda to handpick a new coach we would have for at least 4 years and not an AD? Do you want anyone employed at Baylor right now making that call for that matter?

have you gone over to the dark side?


Odd, is not possible to delay making the HC decision until an AD is identified and possibly make it a package deal? Absolutely no reason that Liberal Linda would need to make a HC decision now.
Cove Dawg
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Aberzombie1892 said:

IowaBear said:

Are you watching the games? Dave is done… there's zero point in waiting


No one is arguing otherwise. It should be the decision of the AD once the AD has been acclimated.


Nope, not at all true!
Cove Dawg
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Aberzombie1892 said:

True Grit said:

This is a below average roster. Who cares…


The challenge is that it could be far worse than "below average". Also, the incoming class is currently quite solid by Baylor's standards.


Where have we heard this before? What has CDA done with those classes?
dstaylor57
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Obviously it was to shut down the fire Da e crowd, and to stabilize recruiting as much as possible.
BellCountyBear
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I want to see a pic of Rhoades' side piece. Was it worth it Mack?
SIC EM 94
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The answer to that is a definite NO
Mitch Blood Green
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She didn't have slot of options. They can still fire him. Can't go the other way.
Wacoraisedbear
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Florida state announced that they are keeping mike Novell so ig we aren't the only school settling for less
blackie
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Quote:

Baylor could put together a helluva blue ribbon committee right now for a coaching search.

And the AD who we ultimately hire would understand and shouldn't have a problem with it.

These may be some of the biggest assumptions I have seen here.

Who would be on this "blue ribbon committee" that has the ties to the coaching community and knowledge to hire a coach? Certainly no one at Pat Neff.

And what legitimate AD would want to be stuck with a hire that may end up being no better than Aranda? I thought we didn't want the administration to micromanage the situation.
boykin_spaniel
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Everyone wants a new football coach but doesn't want the current administration to make the hire… it's a catch 22 no one on here seems to understand…

Also FSU retaining Norvell tells me they realized they're late in the game and the good candidates are already locked down. Don't buyout a coach for millions unless you know you've got a quality dude lined up. I bet after next week's slate of games that Sumrall, Chesney, and Morris are announced head coaches elsewhere very quickly.

Auburn regrets their knee jerk firing of Malzahn that led to Harsin and then to Freeze. Good hires typically come with proper alignment something Auburn did not have
Stefano DiMera
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$54 million buyout for Norvell.. $72 mil including staff.
chriscbear
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Lameduck Dave doesn't help recruiting.
Aberzombie1892
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chriscbear said:

Lameduck Dave doesn't help recruiting.


He's only a lame duck to someone if they believe that there is -nothing- he could do to save his job, and there is currently no reason to reasonably believe that that is the case. Likely? No. Possible? Yes.
WA Jim
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boykin_spaniel said:

It takes the pressure off the new AD having to announce Dave will be back. No AD wants to take a job late and his first announcement be that the very unpopular football coach will be returning. Fan base will want a new AD. The new AD also can't publicly say Dave is back but only because I don't have time to run a proper search. That would be a bigger disaster.

I don't think the letter was good, it was classic floundering Baylor speak, but I get what the school was trying to do with it.

That's a very good point
WA Jim
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Aberzombie1892 said:

Because there are other bad things that can happen beyond keeping Aranda as HC and the Baylor admin is looking to avoid them (i.e. roster exodus, collapse of 2026 class, etc.). It would've been gross negligence had they made the decision and not made it known due to how it impacts roster and recruiting management.

For some reason, I don't think you understand that recruiting classes don't mean anything any more. That is a lame reason to retain an incompetent coach.
IowaBear
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Bingo…. 90% of this so called elite recruiting class isn't going to play meaningful snaps next season. And most will transfer when Dave ultimately gets fired. A good recruiting class is never a serious reason to keep a coach. Especially one as ****ty as Dave Aranda
DAC
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This what happens when u have a women in charge And ultimately I'm charge of mens athletics . *** did they think would happen.
boykin_spaniel
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Half our class might Novosad.
Bearwhiz
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canoso said:

Aberzombie1892 said:

IowaBear said:

Are you watching the games? Dave is done… there's zero point in waiting


No one is arguing otherwise. It should be the decision of the AD once the AD has been acclimated.
Speaking of climate, BU leadership, starting with the BOR, is where real climate change is essential.
Yep, until that happens it's just lipstick on a pig.
Aberzombie1892
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WA Jim said:

Aberzombie1892 said:

Because there are other bad things that can happen beyond keeping Aranda as HC and the Baylor admin is looking to avoid them (i.e. roster exodus, collapse of 2026 class, etc.). It would've been gross negligence had they made the decision and not made it known due to how it impacts roster and recruiting management.

For some reason, I don't think you understand that recruiting classes don't mean anything any more. That is a lame reason to retain an incompetent coach.

It appears as though you aren't quite following what the response above was in response to. I'll help: someone asked (to paraphrase) "why would you announce that you are keeping Dave?", and that response was in response to that. The person did not ask "why would you keep Dave?", which is what you may be responding to. I can see how that can be confusing.
Robert Wilson
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Good work, Linda.

This stadium is empty.
Robert Wilson
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Aberzombie1892 said:

Because there are other bad things that can happen beyond keeping Aranda as HC and the Baylor admin is looking to avoid them (i.e. roster exodus, collapse of 2026 class, etc.). It would've been gross negligence had they made the decision and not made it known due to how it impacts roster and recruiting management.


Do tell
IowaBear
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Yeah Abercrombie's post aged incredibly poor. Keeping Dave was always a monumental failure
 
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