Dave yuckin it up with other coach after the game?

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Johnny Bear
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hodedofome said:

LTBear19 said:

cowboycwr said:

LTBear19 said:

For all those on here who took jabs at Baylor legend Mike Singletary, I can guarantee you this:

He DEFINITELY would not have been grinning from ear to ear after a total beat down.

And if he were coach, there would be discipline and accountability, if nothing else! Especially on the defensive side of the ball.

In fact, given we are 5-6 and on the verge of missing a bowl altogether, why was he such a horrible option to many on here again?

If given the choice right this minute between Aranda and Singletary, I think a majority of folks on here would go with Singletary, no questions asked.


He has never coached at the college level. He hasn't even coached at all in 5 years.

He hasn't seriously coached in over 10.

His head coaching record in the NFL, high school and minor league football is dismal.

His teams displayed none of what you said above.

With all that said, a good number of folks on here would still take Singletary over Aranda in a heartbeat at this moment, given the state of the program.

Maybe you wouldn't, but I suspect many on here absolutely would.

The funny thing is that folks love to point to his time in the NFL as being indicative of his coaching ability, as if he coached for 20 years - when in actuality, he was only given 1 full year as a head coach at that level (finished 8-8). He was 5-10 in his second full season when he was let go.

Meanwhile, someone like Kyle Shanahan has as many losing seasons as he has winning seasons (in 8 years). And in Shanahan's case, he started his career with 2 consecutive losing campaigns.

Yet, Shanahan was actually given time to turn things around.

Not saying Singletary was going to be the next Vince Lombardi, but I don't think it's fair to use his time in the NFL against him, when he wasn't really given a chance like some of these other retreads we see on tv every Sunday.


But to my original point, he would ABSOLUTELY be able to instill discipline and accountability within the program, which is obviously missing at the moment.

And anyone who has followed him wouldn't even doubt that.

Now whether it would translate to championships with this generation would be a discussion for another day (I'll defer to THEE on that matter). But we definitely would have seen a fire that has been missing for quite some time.


Wasn't trying to make this out as a 'Hire Mike Singletary' pitch.

Was just pointing out that many are frustrated with the current lack of discipline and accountability within the program at the moment - and I was simply stating that someone like Mike Singletary (who many, for some odd reason, thought had no clue about football - despite being a Hall of Famer) would have provided that to the program, at a minimum.


Yes, we know there are plenty of old farts remembering the good ole days of the 80s who would love to have Singletary as coach. Hopefully, none of those farts are making major decisions for Baylor.

I'm one of those "old fart fans" that remembers the one man defensive wrecking crew that Singletary was back in the day and I've always felt he deserves a statue outside the stadium - but I agree he would at best be a big time gamble as a HC, especially now that most people under 50 probably don't even know who he is and was. Too many other options out there that have the coaching success and resume to be seriously considering somebody like Singletary.
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Johnny Bear said:

hodedofome said:

LTBear19 said:

cowboycwr said:

LTBear19 said:

For all those on here who took jabs at Baylor legend Mike Singletary, I can guarantee you this:

He DEFINITELY would not have been grinning from ear to ear after a total beat down.

And if he were coach, there would be discipline and accountability, if nothing else! Especially on the defensive side of the ball.

In fact, given we are 5-6 and on the verge of missing a bowl altogether, why was he such a horrible option to many on here again?

If given the choice right this minute between Aranda and Singletary, I think a majority of folks on here would go with Singletary, no questions asked.


He has never coached at the college level. He hasn't even coached at all in 5 years.

He hasn't seriously coached in over 10.

His head coaching record in the NFL, high school and minor league football is dismal.

His teams displayed none of what you said above.

With all that said, a good number of folks on here would still take Singletary over Aranda in a heartbeat at this moment, given the state of the program.

Maybe you wouldn't, but I suspect many on here absolutely would.

The funny thing is that folks love to point to his time in the NFL as being indicative of his coaching ability, as if he coached for 20 years - when in actuality, he was only given 1 full year as a head coach at that level (finished 8-8). He was 5-10 in his second full season when he was let go.

Meanwhile, someone like Kyle Shanahan has as many losing seasons as he has winning seasons (in 8 years). And in Shanahan's case, he started his career with 2 consecutive losing campaigns.

Yet, Shanahan was actually given time to turn things around.

Not saying Singletary was going to be the next Vince Lombardi, but I don't think it's fair to use his time in the NFL against him, when he wasn't really given a chance like some of these other retreads we see on tv every Sunday.


But to my original point, he would ABSOLUTELY be able to instill discipline and accountability within the program, which is obviously missing at the moment.

And anyone who has followed him wouldn't even doubt that.

Now whether it would translate to championships with this generation would be a discussion for another day (I'll defer to THEE on that matter). But we definitely would have seen a fire that has been missing for quite some time.


Wasn't trying to make this out as a 'Hire Mike Singletary' pitch.

Was just pointing out that many are frustrated with the current lack of discipline and accountability within the program at the moment - and I was simply stating that someone like Mike Singletary (who many, for some odd reason, thought had no clue about football - despite being a Hall of Famer) would have provided that to the program, at a minimum.


Yes, we know there are plenty of old farts remembering the good ole days of the 80s who would love to have Singletary as coach. Hopefully, none of those farts are making major decisions for Baylor.

I'm one of those "old fart fans" that remembers the one man defensive wrecking crew that Singletary was back in the day and I've always felt he deserves a statue outside the stadium - but I agree he would at best be a big time gamble as a HC, especially now that most people under 50 probably don't even know who he is and was. Too many other options out there that have the coaching success and resume to be seriously considering somebody like Singletary.

i agree on statue.
hodedofome
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Johnny Bear said:

hodedofome said:

LTBear19 said:

cowboycwr said:

LTBear19 said:

For all those on here who took jabs at Baylor legend Mike Singletary, I can guarantee you this:

He DEFINITELY would not have been grinning from ear to ear after a total beat down.

And if he were coach, there would be discipline and accountability, if nothing else! Especially on the defensive side of the ball.

In fact, given we are 5-6 and on the verge of missing a bowl altogether, why was he such a horrible option to many on here again?

If given the choice right this minute between Aranda and Singletary, I think a majority of folks on here would go with Singletary, no questions asked.


He has never coached at the college level. He hasn't even coached at all in 5 years.

He hasn't seriously coached in over 10.

His head coaching record in the NFL, high school and minor league football is dismal.

His teams displayed none of what you said above.

With all that said, a good number of folks on here would still take Singletary over Aranda in a heartbeat at this moment, given the state of the program.

Maybe you wouldn't, but I suspect many on here absolutely would.

The funny thing is that folks love to point to his time in the NFL as being indicative of his coaching ability, as if he coached for 20 years - when in actuality, he was only given 1 full year as a head coach at that level (finished 8-8). He was 5-10 in his second full season when he was let go.

Meanwhile, someone like Kyle Shanahan has as many losing seasons as he has winning seasons (in 8 years). And in Shanahan's case, he started his career with 2 consecutive losing campaigns.

Yet, Shanahan was actually given time to turn things around.

Not saying Singletary was going to be the next Vince Lombardi, but I don't think it's fair to use his time in the NFL against him, when he wasn't really given a chance like some of these other retreads we see on tv every Sunday.


But to my original point, he would ABSOLUTELY be able to instill discipline and accountability within the program, which is obviously missing at the moment.

And anyone who has followed him wouldn't even doubt that.

Now whether it would translate to championships with this generation would be a discussion for another day (I'll defer to THEE on that matter). But we definitely would have seen a fire that has been missing for quite some time.


Wasn't trying to make this out as a 'Hire Mike Singletary' pitch.

Was just pointing out that many are frustrated with the current lack of discipline and accountability within the program at the moment - and I was simply stating that someone like Mike Singletary (who many, for some odd reason, thought had no clue about football - despite being a Hall of Famer) would have provided that to the program, at a minimum.


Yes, we know there are plenty of old farts remembering the good ole days of the 80s who would love to have Singletary as coach. Hopefully, none of those farts are making major decisions for Baylor.

I'm one of those "old fart fans" that remembers the one man defensive wrecking crew that Singletary was back in the day and I've always felt he deserves a statue outside the stadium - but I agree he would at best be a big time gamble as a HC, especially now that most people under 50 probably don't even know who he is and was. Too many other options out there that have the coaching success and resume to be seriously considering somebody like Singletary.

Nothing wrong with being an old fart reliving the good ole days. One day I'll be an old fart reliving the good ole days of pre-2016. We agree the ship has passed on Singletary as a coach.
cowboycwr
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LTBear19 said:

Are we really hanging our hat on coaching at the high school level?

That screams "I'm retired, enjoy mentoring kids, and just want to be around the game of football," more than "I'm trying to impress folks and get my foot back in the door."

I'd almost guarantee that if Mike Singletary had wanted to get back into coaching at a higher level (as a positions coach, if nothing else), that he very easily could have done so.


It isn't just the high school level. It is everywhere he has been.

And since lots of college coaches have successfully coached at high school level it is something to look at.

I love MS but his lack of college coaching, age now, and overall record do not make him the best candidate for a job at baylor.
LTBear19
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cowboycwr said:

LTBear19 said:

Are we really hanging our hat on coaching at the high school level?

That screams "I'm retired, enjoy mentoring kids, and just want to be around the game of football," more than "I'm trying to impress folks and get my foot back in the door."

I'd almost guarantee that if Mike Singletary had wanted to get back into coaching at a higher level (as a positions coach, if nothing else), that he very easily could have done so.


It isn't just the high school level. It is everywhere he has been.

And since lots of college coaches have successfully coached at high school level it is something to look at.

I love MS but his lack of college coaching, age now, and overall record do not make him the best candidate for a job at baylor.


Just to be clear. I'm not advocating for Singletary to be the next coach.

All I was saying was that a lot of Baylor fans would still choose him over Aranda at this exact moment, even considering everything you've mentioned - given the state of the program.

That's where things are at right now.

And I was simply going to bat for Singletary in a sense, as for years, many on these boards made it sound like the man would have been the absolute worst choice ever to be our coach at one point, despite being our most famous former player for years (at least until RGIII won the Heisman).

Just didn't appreciate how folks talked about a Hall of Famer whose picture was one of only 2 that were on the side of Floyd Casey for years (with the other being Grant Teaff).
Jacques Strap
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Jacques Strap said:

blackie said:

Guitarbiscuit said:

This may be one of the core problems with this team: A Head Coach who doesn't hate losing.

Do you really believe this? You do realize the hours put in by both the team and coaches....and they want to lose. Good grief.

A head coach that wants to lose versus a head coach that doesn't hate losing are two entirely different things.

I agree with you that CDA does not want to lose, but I also agree with Guitarbiscuit that CDA does not hate losing.

JMO... When a coach hates losing they are frustrated and angry after a loss and don't yuck it up at midfield after getting blown out.


This is an example of a coach that HATES to lose.

Fre3dombear
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Jacques Strap said:

Jacques Strap said:

blackie said:

Guitarbiscuit said:

This may be one of the core problems with this team: A Head Coach who doesn't hate losing.

Do you really believe this? You do realize the hours put in by both the team and coaches....and they want to lose. Good grief.

A head coach that wants to lose versus a head coach that doesn't hate losing are two entirely different things.

I agree with you that CDA does not want to lose, but I also agree with Guitarbiscuit that CDA does not hate losing.

JMO... When a coach hates losing they are frustrated and angry after a loss and don't yuck it up at midfield after getting blown out.


This is an example of a coach that HATES to lose.





A&m proved they were a pretender all year long in many ways.
cowboycwr
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Fre3dombear said:

Jacques Strap said:

Jacques Strap said:

blackie said:

Guitarbiscuit said:

This may be one of the core problems with this team: A Head Coach who doesn't hate losing.

Do you really believe this? You do realize the hours put in by both the team and coaches....and they want to lose. Good grief.

A head coach that wants to lose versus a head coach that doesn't hate losing are two entirely different things.

I agree with you that CDA does not want to lose, but I also agree with Guitarbiscuit that CDA does not hate losing.

JMO... When a coach hates losing they are frustrated and angry after a loss and don't yuck it up at midfield after getting blown out.


This is an example of a coach that HATES to lose.





A&m proved they were a pretender all year long in many ways.


They seem to be last year's Indiana
 
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