Briles Will Coach Again. Yesssss

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Reverend
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Thee did come to Baylor for the football. It's probably the only way he could get in. You know…..those pesky academic requirements that didn't apply to him because he was such a stud (and still thinks he is…lol).
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Bearknuckle said:

Realitybites said:

Bearknuckle said:

Any Baylor fan slobbering over Art would hate him to this day if he'd have left us for UT in 2015 there is zero doubt about that, but they tell themselves otherwise because acknowledging he never felt total loyalty to Baylor would take all the wind out of their "WE DESERVE THIS FOR WHAT WE DID TO ART" self-flagellating bull*****


The man brought a Heisman Trophy, a new State of the Art Stadium, and a couple of Big 12 titles to Waco.

For those of us who followed loss after loss in buried in the back of the box scores in the sports section for a decade, that was practically as unbelievable as Baylor winning a national championship would be in 202x.

Then there are people who are just ungrateful.

I'm a middle aged Waco-native Baylor grad (4-6 generations of Baylor alums depending on if I get to count extended family). I'm very well aware of Baylor's historical standing in College Football. So yeah, there's zero question that Art accomplished things that seemed impossible at Baylor. He's a first ballot HOF coach on a purely football-related analysis.

But Drayton McLane brought a new state of the art stadium, full stop. Art was not performing miracles in a vacuum - he had unprecedented levels of support for a Baylor coach. That support began forming well before he hit his peak: Art's folksy brand of Texan played perfectly with our biggest donors, and they were already supporting him in a big way even before Robert won the Heisman.

What Baylor football needs right now isn't Art Briles, but rather full buy-in from our wealthiest alumni. Their collective clout and resources are a massive part of why Art succeeded here, and their potential benefaction is huge part of why Matt Rhule, Joey McGuire, and Dave Aranda all wanted to be coaches here.




Who will join me in writing a $1-million check TODAY to Baylor NIL??

(Just don't expect my check to clear the bank.)
Realitybites
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Too rich for my blood. But when I cut Baylor off after they fired Coach Briles, I started putting my 5 figure donations into a separate allocated investment. They're still sitting there, waiting to see if the institution fixes itself and have grown to the low 6s.
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I will be curious to see what happens with Briles in the next couple of years. ENMU was able to make this hire without the social media backlash we've seen in prior attempts.

Obviously…it being D2 is probably part of why it's not getting as much attention.

I am curious if doing this job for a couple of years will "sanitize" him to where an FBS program will take a shot.

Of course… he is getting up there in age... but we have seen some coaches go well into their 70s.
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There's always Liberty, next time they make a coaching change, if nothing else.
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ImABearToo
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And there's a $1mm buy out clause referenced in Arts contract if he leaves at any time. Any time as in after year 1?
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boognish_bear
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I know he had a few former players on his staff when he was coaching in Italy

canoso
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boognish_bear said:

I will be curious to see what happens with Briles in the next couple of years. ENMU was able to make this hire without the social media backlash we've seen in prior attempts.

Obviously…it being D2 is probably part of why it's not getting as much attention.

I am curious if doing this job for a couple of years will "sanitize" him to where an FBS program will take a shot.

Of course… he is getting up there in age... but we have seen some coaches go well into their 70s.
Shaking hands with CAB yesterday at DFW gate D12, my main thought was, " There's no way this man is anywhere near 70 years of age." JFWIW.
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#BREAKINGART

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D!

New DocuDramaSeries

.... set in the high plains of Eastern New Mexico.

Go Greyhounds!!
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Changing the subject a bit: How do you think the other coaches in the Lone Star Conference are feeling?

Yikes! Briles phone will be flooded with calls from guys wanting to play for him.

My wife and I will make a game in Portales next season, for sure.
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Hope Art has some help with recruiting. He's been out of the game awhile now. Likely still has good relationships with THSC's though. Any idea if he'll keep the current coaching staff or retool?
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Thee University
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Redbrickbear said:

Thee University said:

Redbrickbear said:

Realitybites said:

Thee University said:


No, you and many other circle jerk experts continue to read my factual warnings about this horrible psychological millstone you boys have taken on.


There's absolutely no "horrible psychological millstone" we've taken on.

UNT 52, Baylor 14 was a millstone.

UAB - a school that went on to cancel its football program for a while - 56, Baylor 14 was a millstone.

A&M 73, Baylor 10 was a millstone.

That pair of 62-0 losses to Texas were millstones.

Remember the phrase "Cal scores again." May it haunt your dreams. Some of you had selective memories.

Baylor Bear Football teams spent the better part of a decade humiliating the institution every time they stepped on to a football field. We stuck around through that. We finally got relief, and for absolutely no good reason a dysfunctional administration blew it up.


Pretty amazing how a very large private school with lots of successful alumni that is located smack dab in the center of some of the best football recruiting grounds in America could be so bad at football for so many decades

And not like get beat by ut-Austin bad….but like get beat by 3rd tier programs from other states who close down their own football programs bad

Did you come to Baylor/Waco for football? If you did you got what you deserved.


Good point. And I certainly did not

My Dad went here (and lots of other family)

So football was not a priority for me to enroll

But I will always be shocked at our underachieving…compared to great recruitment location, school-academic quality, and now high level facilities

How can you be shocked???? Baylor has been like this forever. It's a .510 program and just about every coach, upon stepping doiwn or being fired was never knocking down National Championships or winning big bowl games.

It's not underachieving as much as it is unable to part with the BIG $$$$$$$.
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Reverend said:

Thee did come to Baylor for the football. It's probably the only way he could get in. You know…..those pesky academic requirements that didn't apply to him because he was such a stud (and still thinks he is…lol).

I was NOT a stud. I was a 2A sleeper.

Yes, I scored way North of what it took to get into BU.



"So often times it happens that we live our lives in chains And we never even know we have the key"
Reverend
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We'll maybe you fibbed about about being a blue chip committed to Texas. You've bragged about it numerous times on this board.

Kinda like your college entrance scores maybe?

Don't worry about it. It's hard for you to keep up.

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Reverend said:

We'll maybe you fibbed about about being a blue chip committed to Texas. You've bragged about it numerous times on this board.

Kinda like your college entrance scores maybe?

Don't worry about it. It's hard for you to keep up.



You F'ing idiot!

There was no such thing as blue chips in 1977. That terminology was not being used yet.

Yes. UT was the first school to offer me. Darrel Royal himself, before my senior year, called and offered before the 1976 season was over. Akers was subsequently hired. I took my official visit and did not like Akers at all. More importantly, Cotton Davidson visited with me at the DQ in Lampasas after my official UT visit. Cotton, more than anyone, was the primary reason I chose Baylor over UT.

I told that story to make a valid point. Not bragging at all.
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I'm perfectly happy to let everybody who reads what you say to make up their own mind.
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I have a question if briles would've ended up taking the Texas job after the fiesta bowl would everyone still love him like they do now ? He would've took all recruits and coaching staff with him leaving us high and dry and back to being ass
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Aliceinbubbleland said:

boognish_bear said:

We've seen him announced for coaching gigs a few times over the years...then the social media tempest starts and the team backs out.

It's been 10 years now...hopefully there is no blowback and they let the man be.

About four of our former Regents are crying and two are calling WSJ


unqualified Neal Jeffrey is probably calling Eastern NM pagan and unchristian.
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Wacoraisedbear said:

I have a question if briles would've ended up taking the Texas job after the fiesta bowl would everyone still love him like they do now ? He would've took all recruits and coaching staff with him leaving us high and dry and back to being ass

The apologists can't and won't answer this.
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Timbear said:

Aliceinbubbleland said:

boognish_bear said:

We've seen him announced for coaching gigs a few times over the years...then the social media tempest starts and the team backs out.

It's been 10 years now...hopefully there is no blowback and they let the man be.

About four of our former Regents are crying and two are calling WSJ


unqualified Neal Jeffrey is probably calling Eastern NM pagan and unchristian.

Or worse, calling the school directly.
Thank you Miami Hurricanes. 10-3. :)
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What value is it to die with Baylor? Life's too short. It's no fun and just makes BFans miserable. Art's fun and he wins. Baylor is a loser and after the LL letter, is a laughing stock around the Nation.
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Timbear said:

What value is it to die with Baylor? Life's too short. It's no fun and just makes BFans miserable. Art's fun and he wins. Baylor is a loser and after the LL letter, is a laughing stock around the Nation.

Well, bye.
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Wacoraisedbear said:

I have a question if briles would've ended up taking the Texas job after the fiesta bowl would everyone still love him like they do now ? He would've took all recruits and coaching staff with him leaving us high and dry and back to being ass


I would be thankful for what he did for Baylor. I would not have liked him leaving at all. You can't blame someone for considering when one of the most prestigious jobs comes open, and they are offering vaults full of money to get you to come. I know I would definitely consider it.
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Good interview by Matt Mosley with Art today.
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Bearknuckle said:

Timbear said:

What value is it to die with Baylor? Life's too short. It's no fun and just makes BFans miserable. Art's fun and he wins. Baylor is a loser and after the LL letter, is a laughing stock around the Nation.

Well, bye.


BearN, you're so unhappy, so you have to vomit all over the freeboard? It's not working. Tell us again how lucky you are to have LL and the Frowning Man back.
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BEAR 45 said:

Bearknuckle said:

TWD 1974 said:

Stefano DiMera said:

Interesting article.

Says if we had beat UCF in Fiesta he probably would have headed to Austin to take UT job

https://www.chron.com/sports/college/article/art-briles-texas-coach-alternate-reality-21131667.php


From what I remember, the team played that night like they knew.

Any Baylor fan slobbering over Art would hate him to this day if he'd have left us for UT in 2015 there is zero doubt about that, but they tell themselves otherwise because acknowledging he never felt total loyalty to Baylor would take all the wind out of their "WE DESERVE THIS FOR WHAT WE DID TO ART" self-flagellating bull*****

But he didn't when he had the opportunity and THAT is the point

Briles probably reliving that opportunity out loud because had he left the powers that be at UT wouldn't have been all over him and the fiasco that ensured never would have happened.

Nobody cares what happens at Baylor if Briles isn't disrupting the big boys perceived "right" to always be on top.

When OU or whomever it was beat Baylor that last year a headline read "Order Restored". Briles disrupted the privledge of the "big boys", they used this as an excuse to railroad him.

It had been published 1/4 of UT coeds had reported sexual assault of some type back in the Briles era. UT fans were the most self righteous crowd that went after Briles and their campus was just as bad if not worse.
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Thee University said:

Wacoraisedbear said:

I have a question if briles would've ended up taking the Texas job after the fiesta bowl would everyone still love him like they do now ? He would've took all recruits and coaching staff with him leaving us high and dry and back to being ass

The apologists can't and won't answer this.


The people who still love him for what he did at Baylor would. The ingrates would not.
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Timbear said:

Bearknuckle said:

Timbear said:

What value is it to die with Baylor? Life's too short. It's no fun and just makes BFans miserable. Art's fun and he wins. Baylor is a loser and after the LL letter, is a laughing stock around the Nation.

Well, bye.


BearN, you're so unhappy, so you have to vomit all over the freeboard? It's not working. Tell us again how lucky you are to have LL and the Frowning Man back.

You're reading my posts while sundowning again Tim. I don't want Dave back…been pretty clear about that.
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Bearfan1998
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I can answer it. It didn't happen
ilikebu
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Angelo State Rams have a solid backing, and nice stadium in west Texas.
canoso
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Wacoraisedbear said:

I have a question if briles would've ended up taking the Texas job after the fiesta bowl would everyone still love him like they do now ? He would've took all recruits and coaching staff with him leaving us high and dry and back to being ass
Are you familiar with the term "moot"? Apparently not.
canoso
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Aliceinbubbleland said:

boognish_bear said:

We've seen him announced for coaching gigs a few times over the years...then the social media tempest starts and the team backs out.

It's been 10 years now...hopefully there is no blowback and they let the man be.

About four of our former Regents are crying and two are calling WSJ
Even if true, they wouldn't have the combined effect of a peashooter on an Abrams tank as far as ENMU is concerned.
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ilikebu said:

Angelo State Rams have a solid backing, and nice stadium in west Texas.

What?
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Thee University said:

Wacoraisedbear said:

I have a question if briles would've ended up taking the Texas job after the fiesta bowl would everyone still love him like they do now ? He would've took all recruits and coaching staff with him leaving us high and dry and back to being ass

The apologists can't and won't answer this.

I will answer this. As a qualifier, I played at the D1 level and have been around a lot of coaches. Like you, I have observed many coaches from afar. Most are good to a degree but very few have Art Briles' combination of abilities; Charisma to "command the room," confidence to call plays in the clutch, a magical ability to help kids "free up" and "release" their talents during the game, a "fighter's" demeanor, and also be a downright good and righteous man. His "swagger" never was a fit as a "Baylor man." The fact is that he took a fledgling private school program and turned it into a national brand. Yes, I would have been pissed to lose him to the T-sips, but I would still consider him one of the greatest I've ever seen. Pure magic!

PS. Let's not argue about the scandal. It would take dozens of pages.
 
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