High School student's agent.
What a joke.
There is an obvious struggle with the English language, must be a distant relative? I'm guessing his uncle is representing him.
Wow, this is getting more difficult to follow every year.

Because of Dave, this recruiting class means nothing. He's had 6 recruiting classes and his best players have been 2 walk-ons

Congrats to Carlton on being immediately bumped from 4 to 5 star.

I assume...

Aranda has good players, but he has failed to develop them as football players.

Most haven't improved from when they were in high school. They have developed bad habits, poor fundamentals, and seem to have a poor understanding of the game.

In defense, I can catch on almost every single play a player with a missed assignment, hitting the wrong gap, taking the wrong pursuit angle, and completely whiffing on tackling. It's sickening because our head coach is an alleged defensive guru.

You guys would be better off with my high school linebackers coach coaching these young men than Dave Aranda. Seriously.

Ms Livingstone is not schumzzing with church leaders or deacons. Baylor turned away from its Baptist heritage under Ken Starr. But be assured Linda is continuing the movement away from Baptist churches. It's all about having a wealthy BOR with minimal connections to Baylor or the Baptist. Baylor is rushing down the road like Harvard, Princeton, or Yale. Believe me that's not a compliment. Those who want to abandon Baylor's Christian heritage have probably already abandoned Jesus Christ as well.

The world has changed folks. I would rather invest a lot more NIL money in mature juniors and seniors than in HS talent. We need to load up in the portal… so losing a 17-year-old developmental prospect just frees up more money for a 22-year-old grad student (6th year 'senior)' with a proven track record. Recruiting class rankings and classes in today's world are like the Dallas Cowboys signing a BU freshman for play in 2030.

However, I would still take a new coach for that money!!!

Prediction…Linda and new AD will hire Mike Gundy next year. Keep this post as a receipt.

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IowaBear said:

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You're missing the point. I could care less. I've stated that many a times.
However, that was Linda's big selling point to the fanbase. That crock of **** selling point has gone up in flames

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There is no good selling point, and I think Linda knows that. Obviously, it looks dumb to even mention the recruiting class now, but it was silly at the time as well.

This was clearly just a case of deciding to hire an AD before addressing Aranda's fate and punting the 2026 season as a result. As soon as the Mack situation arose, the idea of fast-tracking the AD hire and firing/replacing Aranda probably wasn't even seriously entertained by our administration.

I wouldn't have done it that way, but there were risks both directions.

Mack Rhoades royally screwed us by getting his ass canned over off-the-field nonsense

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That's all true, but still, the regents and LL had a range of options, and the chose the most passive one.

We'd be better off hiring a coach in January after hiring an AD in December. There are still good coaches out there. With the status quo, I shudder to think what McLane stadium is going to look like next fall.

Of course, it could just be that we don't really have the money for the buyout and new hires.

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Sure it was. Had nothing to do with the direction of BU football.

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It is all about the money. For example, the QB at Vandy is there for one reason, the NIL. His words best NIL package in the SEC on TV.

If BU offers a better package than UT, the kid stays. There is no recruiting anymore, it is more about the money. Actually, hiring a Good Agent and 2 Coordinators may be the future of CFB.

I would be game for trying that.

Pavia followed his OC to Vandy. And yes I'm sure $$ was involved. But only a fool thinks Vandy has the best NIL in the SEC. That's Pavia pumping up Vandy more than anything
And only a fool believes the only thing at play here is $$. Recruits aren't dumb. They see BU is a sinking ship. It's rather easy to see that BU football is falling apart. These kids know Aranda is a lame duck. They also probably realize by now that Dave is a **** coach. I'm positive that isn't helping. And no I'm not calling you a fool.

I read Pavia got $2.4M but don't know how to post link

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Pavia followed his OC to Vandy. And yes I'm sure $$ was involved. But only a fool thinks Vandy has the best NIL in the SEC. That's Pavia pumping up Vandy more than anything
And only a fool believes the only thing at play here is $$. Recruits aren't dumb. They see BU is a sinking ship. It's rather easy to see that BU football is falling apart. These kids know Aranda is a lame duck. They also probably realize by now that Dave is a **** coach. I'm positive that isn't helping. And no I'm not calling you a fool

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I am not the first or only one to accuse the Vandy QB about a money grab.

Did I say you were? His OC at NM St made the move to Vandy. Pavia followed. Am I supposed to believe that was purely a coincidence?

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IowaBear said:

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Pavia followed his OC to Vandy. And yes I'm sure $$ was involved. But only a fool thinks Vandy has the best NIL in the SEC. That's Pavia pumping up Vandy more than anything
And only a fool believes the only thing at play here is $$. Recruits aren't dumb. They see BU is a sinking ship. It's rather easy to see that BU football is falling apart. These kids know Aranda is a lame duck. They also probably realize by now that Dave is a **** coach. I'm positive that isn't helping. And no I'm not calling you a fool

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I am not the first or only one to accuse the Vandy QB about a money grab.

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Wish it could have been us.

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Did I say you were? His OC at NM St made the move to Vandy. Pavia followed. Am I supposed to believe that was purely a coincidence?

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With Pavia it's really both following the money AND the OC.

NMSU couldn't pay a fraction of what Vandy did, and Vandy was offering the highest price of anyone (he's smallish, he's 'old' for CFB QB, etc).

He followed his OC, sure, but it also happened to be the biggest payday on the table for him. So I think that was probably the easiest Life Decision that Diego will ever make.

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IowaBear said:

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Did I say you were? His OC at NM St made the move to Vandy. Pavia followed. Am I supposed to believe that was purely a coincidence?

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With Pavia it's really both following the money AND the OC.

NMSU couldn't pay a fraction of what Vandy did, and Vandy was offering the highest price of anyone (he's smallish, he's 'old' for CFB QB, etc).

He followed his OC, sure, but it also happened to be the biggest payday on the table for him. So I think that was probably the easiest Life Decision that Diego will ever make.

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It was an example that came to mind, as usual on this Board we like hashing over the minutia versus the larger point.

Get enough NIL, the coach change is not going to matter as much.

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IowaBear said:

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Did I say you were? His OC at NM St made the move to Vandy. Pavia followed. Am I supposed to believe that was purely a coincidence?

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With Pavia it's really both following the money AND the OC.

NMSU couldn't pay a fraction of what Vandy did, and Vandy was offering the highest price of anyone (he's smallish, he's 'old' for CFB QB, etc).

He followed his OC, sure, but it also happened to be the biggest payday on the table for him. So I think that was probably the easiest Life Decision that Diego will ever make.

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He said in a podcast over the summer he was offered north of $4 mil to leave vandy

Gundy for the win!

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The enemy within

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We have self destruction down to a science.

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As I stated on another thread: We are a circus that is occasionally interrupted by success.

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bear2be2 said:

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IowaBear said:

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You're missing the point. I could care less. I've stated that many a times.
However, that was Linda's big selling point to the fanbase. That crock of **** selling point has gone up in flames

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There is no good selling point, and I think Linda knows that. Obviously, it looks dumb to even mention the recruiting class now, but it was silly at the time as well.

This was clearly just a case of deciding to hire an AD before addressing Aranda's fate and punting the 2026 season as a result. As soon as the Mack situation arose, the idea of fast-tracking the AD hire and firing/replacing Aranda probably wasn't even seriously entertained by our administration.

I wouldn't have done it that way, but there were risks both directions.

Mack Rhoades royally screwed us by getting his ass canned over off-the-field nonsense

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That's all true, but still, the regents and LL had a range of options, and the chose the most passive one.

We'd be better off hiring a coach in January after hiring an AD in December. There are still good coaches out there. With the status quo, I shudder to think what McLane stadium is going to look like next fall.

Of course, it could just be that we don't really have the money for the buyout and new hires.

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The bottom line is the money, period. Baylor had a few big bag folks, but they closed the purse (at least for football) after 2016. Our other issue is that we are in an oil state, but dont have big money oil people. The nickels and dimes from our plethora of accountants and dentists we put into the world ain't gonna cut it.

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Bearknuckle said:

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IowaBear said:

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Did I say you were? His OC at NM St made the move to Vandy. Pavia followed. Am I supposed to believe that was purely a coincidence?

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With Pavia it's really both following the money AND the OC.

NMSU couldn't pay a fraction of what Vandy did, and Vandy was offering the highest price of anyone (he's smallish, he's 'old' for CFB QB, etc).

He followed his OC, sure, but it also happened to be the biggest payday on the table for him. So I think that was probably the easiest Life Decision that Diego will ever make.

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He said in a podcast over the summer he was offered north of $4 mil to leave vandy

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yes after last year's success...we're talking about his transition from NMSU to Vandy. And frankly, without seeing an offer sheet posted, I have trouble believing that he got a 1 year $4M offer even off the back of the '24 season. ~$2M would be a bit more believable.

PaperBear89 said:

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BearlyConscious said:

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Fre3dombear said:

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The enemy within

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We have self destruction down to a science.

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As I stated on another thread: We are a circus that is occasionally interrupted by success.

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these mots are juste.............

- OW BHJ

D!

Go Bears!!

Would seem a GM for football (NIL), roster mgt AND a football coach will be in the new AD.s agenda. Coaches can't be negotiating and writing the players' nil contracts anymore. Expensive prop and would imagine BU still sorting out how to play it, unfortunately.

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Would seem a GM for football (NIL), roster mgt AND a football coach will be in the new AD.s agenda. Coaches can't be negotiating and writing the players' nil contracts anymore. Expensive prop and would imagine BU still sorting out how to play it, unfortunately.

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We already have the NIL GM role with David Kaye...don't we?

https://247sports.com/college/baylor/article/baylor-athletics-establishes-in-house-nil-unit-names-david-kaye-nil-general-manager-231720657/

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possible12 said:

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Would seem a GM for football (NIL), roster mgt AND a football coach will be in the new AD.s agenda. Coaches can't be negotiating and writing the players' nil contracts anymore. Expensive prop and would imagine BU still sorting out how to play it, unfortunately.

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We already have the NIL GM role with David Kaye...don't we?

https://247sports.com/college/baylor/article/baylor-athletics-establishes-in-house-nil-unit-names-david-kaye-nil-general-manager-231720657/

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Thx

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Jorkel said:

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Bearknuckle said:

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IowaBear said:

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Did I say you were? His OC at NM St made the move to Vandy. Pavia followed. Am I supposed to believe that was purely a coincidence?

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With Pavia it's really both following the money AND the OC.

NMSU couldn't pay a fraction of what Vandy did, and Vandy was offering the highest price of anyone (he's smallish, he's 'old' for CFB QB, etc).

He followed his OC, sure, but it also happened to be the biggest payday on the table for him. So I think that was probably the easiest Life Decision that Diego will ever make.

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He said in a podcast over the summer he was offered north of $4 mil to leave vandy

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yes after last year's success...we're talking about his transition from NMSU to Vandy. And frankly, without seeing an offer sheet posted, I have trouble believing that he got a 1 year $4M offer even off the back of the '24 season. ~$2M would be a bit more believable.

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I'm curious, have you seen an offer sheet from any QB? All I see is big numbers thrown out there but no proof.

Jorkel said:

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Bearknuckle said:

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Jorkel said:

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Bearknuckle said:

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IowaBear said:

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Did I say you were? His OC at NM St made the move to Vandy. Pavia followed. Am I supposed to believe that was purely a coincidence?

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With Pavia it's really both following the money AND the OC.

NMSU couldn't pay a fraction of what Vandy did, and Vandy was offering the highest price of anyone (he's smallish, he's 'old' for CFB QB, etc).

He followed his OC, sure, but it also happened to be the biggest payday on the table for him. So I think that was probably the easiest Life Decision that Diego will ever make.

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He said in a podcast over the summer he was offered north of $4 mil to leave vandy

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yes after last year's success...we're talking about his transition from NMSU to Vandy. And frankly, without seeing an offer sheet posted, I have trouble believing that he got a 1 year $4M offer even off the back of the '24 season. ~$2M would be a bit more believable.

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I'm curious, have you seen an offer sheet from any QB? All I see is big numbers thrown out there but no proof.

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Baylor produces actual offer sheets and so do most other big time programs at this point (helps all parties establish a market value for the player), but those aren't publicly available AFAIK...so 'offer sheet' was figurative, meaning basically any proof.

I'm not trying to knock Pavia, just saying that >$4M would have put him in the top 1-2 for all CFB QBs, and I don't think I'd put him there - but he's definitely a winner and a gamer, and we all knew that 2025 was allegedly the last year to spend big...so maybe $4M is dead on accurate. That number makes it seem like someone out there thought he was the missing piece to a natty - who was that? Based on the rumors about Sawyer I'd guess it was Tennessee.

Everyone is right. In todays football world if you are going to compete in Major Conferences it will take BIG, BIG bucks. That is why, within 5 years Baylor will be playing in Conference USA.

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IowaBear said:

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Sure it was. Had nothing to do with the direction of BU football.

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It is all about the money. For example, the QB at Vandy is there for one reason, the NIL. His words best NIL package in the SEC on TV.

If BU offers a better package than UT, the kid stays. There is no recruiting anymore, it is more about the money. Actually, hiring a Good Agent and 2 Coordinators may be the future of CFB.

I would be game for trying that.

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I would take it over Aranda. All we are missing is a Joey McGuire-style motivator. Throw in some boob jobs for our cheerleaders and maybe we'll be set.

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FLBear5630 said:

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IowaBear said:

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Sure it was. Had nothing to do with the direction of BU football.

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It is all about the money. For example, the QB at Vandy is there for one reason, the NIL. His words best NIL package in the SEC on TV.

If BU offers a better package than UT, the kid stays. There is no recruiting anymore, it is more about the money. Actually, hiring a Good Agent and 2 Coordinators may be the future of CFB.

I would be game for trying that.

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I would take it over Aranda. All we are missing is a Joey McGuire-style motivator. Throw in some boob jobs for our cheerleaders and maybe we'll be set.

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Two observations:

One - If Joey was still here instead of Aranda, do we think we'd be in the same place?
Two - As the relative of a cheerleader...no thanks.

Saying that it's all about the money is a bit of a cope. Guys still want to win football games and be developed for the next level. Dave doesn't do either of those things