Texas Tech's Investment

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muddybrazos said:

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Danielsjackson114 said:

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CaliBear00 said:

Aranda had his most talented team in years and couldn't even reach bowl eligibility. I don't need the context for that.

This was not his most talented team. It was estimated to be that pre-season. But, as the season showed, it was not. It was pretty mediocre.


Nice try, Mrs. Aranda. By all accounts, it was our best team since 2021.

Your lousey husband fired his mentor. Brought back a guy that already had a failed career here (Powledge), then set him aside to be the DC this past season. While he was coined a "guru," he led the Bears to one of the WORST defenses in FBS.

You have got to be Mrs. Aranda, Dave Aranda, or one of the staff members to be gaslighting us like that.

Even if this team was factually mediocre, who is responsible for that in year fkn six????????

No, not by all accounts. By the talking heads at Magazines and people that like to think they "really know".

The one account that is wasn't was performance on the field. The defense sucked. How many different defenses/coverages did they try last year? Nothing worked. The players were not as good as you guys thought.

If it is the scheme with good players that gets correct, IF they are good enough they can do SOMETHING well. That was not the case with BU's defense. It did not matter the scheme or the DCoord they got beat constantly. That is the players.

We spent a lot of money on players that are not good enough to play in the B12. The thing people don't get is just because you pay a lot, doesn't mean they are any good. Tech did a great job of IDing players that could play and the paid for it. We didn't, we took chances. How many were top players on the teams they left? Robertson, our best transfer, left Miss St because he wasn't playing and he took several years to develop. We have NOBODY in the caliber of the Tech transfers and still paid.

Sawyer left Miss St bc his coach died. Our qb, who mostly sucked, left us to go to MIss st and be their starter.

If you notice I said Defensive players. Our Offensive talent is or was pretty good. Fell off a bit at the end of the year, but overall we put up points.
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Redbrickbear said:

canoso said:

ABC BEAR said:

$28M for a conference title. Points scored in a CFP game are extra.
A 2025 conference championship is merely the first dividend of many more to come.


Exactly

We have a lot of Baylor fans hitting the copium hard trying to pretend it's not a big thing.






Campbell paid over $25 million dollars for Tech to score as many points as Baylor did in the CFP.
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CaliBear00 said:

Redbrickbear said:

canoso said:

ABC BEAR said:

$28M for a conference title. Points scored in a CFP game are extra.

A 2025 conference championship is merely the first dividend of many more to come.


Exactly

We have a lot of Baylor fans hitting the copium hard trying to pretend it's not a big thing.






Campbell paid over $25 million dollars for Tech to score as many points as Baylor did in the CFP.

Operative words - IN THE CFP.
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CaliBear00 said:

Redbrickbear said:

canoso said:

ABC BEAR said:

$28M for a conference title. Points scored in a CFP game are extra.

A 2025 conference championship is merely the first dividend of many more to come.


Exactly

We have a lot of Baylor fans hitting the copium hard trying to pretend it's not a big thing.






Campbell paid over $25 million dollars for Tech to score as many points as Baylor did in the CFP.


And as Canoso pointed out on this thread...let's see what Campbell is able to do next year when he drops $35 million or more on Tech.

He is committed and willing to spend his cash...and keep on doing it.

If he gets Tech to multiple CFPs and does nothing there/no scores...well then maybe we start gloat a little.

Until then Texas Tech (yes old West Texas dirt storms- easy to get into party school- in the middle of nowhere with no recruiting grounds-no football history) Texas Tech is in the CFP and winning Big 12 titles.

And we are stuck with a bizarre coach who can't win while wasting our money and prime location.
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Dumping millions a year into Tech's program isn't a sustainable long term plan, even for Campbell, because it doesn't fix the underlining problem.

Campbell is pushing for change across the CFB landscape and has gone to numerous events and spoken with many media outlets to get his opinions across. That's what he's trying to buy - a seat at the table.

With a handful of exceptions, everyone not in the P2 is a farm team now.
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montypython said:

Dumping millions a year into Tech's program isn't sustainable long term, even for Campbell.

Campbell is pushing for change across the CFB landscape and has gone to numerous events and spoken with many media outlets to get his opinions across. That's what he's trying to buy - a seat at the table.

With a handful of exceptions, everyone not in the P2 is a farm team now.

Sad but 100% true.
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montypython said:

Dumping millions a year into Tech's program isn't sustainable long term, even for Campbell.

Campbell is pushing for change across the CFB landscape and has gone to numerous events and spoken with many media outlets to get his opinions across. That's what he's trying to buy - a seat at the table.



I would say it's pretty sustainable for Cody Campbell given his wealth.

Even if he would like to see changes to the college football system.

[Alongside John Sellers, his former Texas Tech teammate, Campbell founded Double Eagle Energy Holdings, an oil and gas production company. In February, it was sold to Diamondback Energy Inc. in a deal worth more than $4 billion. It was hardly his first big payday, either. Campbell's previous two business deals were worth $2.8 billion (in 2017) and $6.4 billion (in 2021).]

Media estimates put his net worth at between $1.5 billion and $3 billion

Lets say it's on the lower side of $1.5 billion

He can spend $30-$60 million a year on Tech football if he wants and never touch the principal on his money
Bobsyouruncle
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They have another half dozen billionaires involved. Cody's just the one who talks publicly.
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Bobsyouruncle said:

They have another half dozen billionaires involved. Cody's just the one who talks publicly.

They are not the only school.

Miami has substantial resources that are now in play, legally.
BUATX2000
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Everyone wants to be an "oil school" until that FANG money starts showing up. Cal and Stanford are going to go on an epic run soon.
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BUATX2000 said:

Everyone wants to be an "oil school" until that FANG money starts showing up. Cal and Stanford are going to go on an epic run soon.

That AI monies
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BUATX2000 said:

Everyone wants to be an "oil school" until that FANG money starts showing up. Cal and Stanford are going to go on an epic run soon.


Stanford billionaires may just not care about football. But if they do start to care...
Of course there are billionaires, and then there are the Stanford billionaires like Larry Page & Sergey Brin

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While exact, real-time numbers fluctuate, recent reports from late 2025 and early 2026 suggest Stanford University has around 69 to 93 living billionaire alumni, placing it second only to Harvard in producing the most billionaires, largely driven by tech entrepreneurs from the Bay Area.

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Reports from October 2025 and April 2025 cite UC Berkeley with 15 billionaire alumni, often tied with other universities like the University of Michigan and USC for high rankings.

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BUATX2000 said:

Everyone wants to be an "oil school" until that FANG money starts showing up. Cal and Stanford are going to go on an epic run soon.


Their wealthiest alumni haven't been shown to really care about burning significant sums of money on NIL just to win football games. Maybe it changes; maybe not.
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FLBear5630 said:

Bobsyouruncle said:

They have another half dozen billionaires involved. Cody's just the one who talks publicly.

They are not the only school.

Miami has substantial resources that are now in play, legally.

Not for long if Trump keeps
blowing up those boats
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Redbrickbear said:

montypython said:

Dumping millions a year into Tech's program isn't sustainable long term, even for Campbell.

Campbell is pushing for change across the CFB landscape and has gone to numerous events and spoken with many media outlets to get his opinions across. That's what he's trying to buy - a seat at the table.



I would say it's pretty sustainable for Cody Campbell given his wealth.

Even if he would like to see changes to the college football system.

[Alongside John Sellers, his former Texas Tech teammate, Campbell founded Double Eagle Energy Holdings, an oil and gas production company. In February, it was sold to Diamondback Energy Inc. in a deal worth more than $4 billion. It was hardly his first big payday, either. Campbell's previous two business deals were worth $2.8 billion (in 2017) and $6.4 billion (in 2021).]

Media estimates put his net worth at between $1.5 billion and $3 billion

Lets say it's on the lower side of $1.5 billion

He can spend $30-$60 million a year on Tech football if he wants and never touch the principal on his money

That is the way I see it. Given your $1.5 billion, $35 million is less than 3 percent of his wealth. That is like you or me sending Baylor 3 cents out of each dollar we have. I don't like the idea, but I could see doing that for several years if college football meant that much to me (it is beginning to not be in this new environment of trying to buy championships). And for those that have such wealth, even spending more is not going to disrupt their life style or future plans.

Heck, many people could accidently drop 3 pennies on the ground and wouldn't even bother to pick them up or lose 3% of their portfolio and not be too concerned. 3% is not a lot to give away in a given year, if it seems to bring you enjoyment and a perceived desire to hold it over your peers who support other teams. It is not a lot to these guys...and there are plenty of them.

There are only two things that will stop them.........a temporary one is that their coaching staff can't figure out how to get the right players and use them, in which case the staffs get replaced with those who can. Or that the rules change that outlaw this insanity....and that will likely be hard to do.

I suspect football at Tech is just the tip of the iceberg. They already bought a $1 million softball pitcher last year. I don't know what they have done with MBB as I don't keep up with it well, but I suspect MBB and WBB are certainly on the agenda.

The whole point of collegiate athletics has been lost. Is Baylor left behind by Tech under these conditions...without question, the answer is yes, but given the reasons and what a university is suppose to be all about, it doesn't really bother me all that much. I am happy if we just compete well with our peers. Tech is quickly becoming not a peer. Heck, they may surpass UT.
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blackie said:

Redbrickbear said:

montypython said:

Dumping millions a year into Tech's program isn't sustainable long term, even for Campbell.

Campbell is pushing for change across the CFB landscape and has gone to numerous events and spoken with many media outlets to get his opinions across. That's what he's trying to buy - a seat at the table.



I would say it's pretty sustainable for Cody Campbell given his wealth.

Even if he would like to see changes to the college football system.

[Alongside John Sellers, his former Texas Tech teammate, Campbell founded Double Eagle Energy Holdings, an oil and gas production company. In February, it was sold to Diamondback Energy Inc. in a deal worth more than $4 billion. It was hardly his first big payday, either. Campbell's previous two business deals were worth $2.8 billion (in 2017) and $6.4 billion (in 2021).]

Media estimates put his net worth at between $1.5 billion and $3 billion

Lets say it's on the lower side of $1.5 billion

He can spend $30-$60 million a year on Tech football if he wants and never touch the principal on his money

That is the way I see it. Given your $1.5 billion, $35 million is less than 3 percent of his wealth. That is like you or me sending Baylor 3 cents out of each dollar we have. I don't like the idea, but I could see doing that for several years if college football meant that much to me (it is beginning to not be in this new environment of trying to buy championships). And for those that have such wealth, even spending more is not going to disrupt their life style or future plans.

Heck, many people could accidently drop 3 pennies on the ground and wouldn't even bother to pick them up or lose 3% of their portfolio and not be too concerned. 3% is not a lot to give away in a given year, if it seems to bring you enjoyment and a perceived desire to hold it over your peers who support other teams. It is not a lot to these guys...and there are plenty of them.

There are only two things that will stop them.........a temporary one is that their coaching staff can't figure out how to get the right players and use them, in which case the staffs get replaced with those who can. Or that the rules change that outlaw this insanity....and that will likely be hard to do.

I suspect football at Tech is just the tip of the iceberg. They already bought a $1 million softball pitcher last year. I don't know what they have done with MBB as I don't keep up with it well, but I suspect MBB and WBB are certainly on the agenda.

The whole point of collegiate athletics has been lost. Is Baylor left behind by Tech under these conditions...without question, the answer is yes, but given the reasons and what a university is suppose to be all about, it doesn't really bother me all that much. I am happy if we just compete well with our peers. Tech is quickly becoming not a peer. Heck, they may surpass UT.

If you are looking at it as what is a University supposed to do about it, the answer is either pony up OR go the route of the University of Chicago.
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Baylor's Endowment is 2.2 Billion and Miami's is 1.59. I don't think you can draw any conclusions from this data due to a multitude of factors such as their people might spend more on football than endowed chairs or scholarships. Also, does Miami have a significant number of T-shirt fans that give to sports but not scholarships.

Waco's cost of living is 37% less than Miami's, so 2.2 billion goes a lot further in Waco.

I also wonder if the states with no income tax, like Texas and Florida, are discussing that with agents and players. I doubt they are because how many 18 year olds understand personal finance. As a middle aged adult, I care about these things. I know most 18 year olds don't.
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RightRevBear said:

Baylor's Endowment is 2.2 Billion and Miami's is 1.59. I don't think you can draw any conclusions from this data due to a multitude of factors such as their people might spend more on football than endowed chairs or scholarships. Also, does Miami have a significant number of T-shirt fans that give to sports but not scholarships.

Waco's cost of living is 37% less than Miami's, so 2.2 billion goes a lot further in Waco.

I also wonder if the states with no income tax, like Texas and Florida, are discussing that with agents and players. I doubt they are because how many 18 year olds understand personal finance. As a middle aged adult, I care about these things. I know most 18 year olds don't.

Miami has one thing that Baylor does not. South Beach and the night culture. Coral Gables is very nice and if you are getting NIL the million dollar mile is close and some top notch night life. My friends brother played for the Canes under Schnellenberger. Believe me, even then there was nothing in Waco that could touch it.
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FLBear5630 said:

RightRevBear said:

Baylor's Endowment is 2.2 Billion and Miami's is 1.59. I don't think you can draw any conclusions from this data due to a multitude of factors such as their people might spend more on football than endowed chairs or scholarships. Also, does Miami have a significant number of T-shirt fans that give to sports but not scholarships.

Waco's cost of living is 37% less than Miami's, so 2.2 billion goes a lot further in Waco.

I also wonder if the states with no income tax, like Texas and Florida, are discussing that with agents and players. I doubt they are because how many 18 year olds understand personal finance. As a middle aged adult, I care about these things. I know most 18 year olds don't.

Miami has one thing that Baylor does not. South Beach and the night culture. Coral Gables is very nice and if you are getting NIL the million dollar mile is close and some top notch night life. My friends brother played for the Canes under Schnellenberger. Believe me, even then there was nothing in Waco that could touch it.


I'd say Miami has more than 1 thing Waco does not.
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blackie said:

Redbrickbear said:

montypython said:

Dumping millions a year into Tech's program isn't sustainable long term, even for Campbell.

Campbell is pushing for change across the CFB landscape and has gone to numerous events and spoken with many media outlets to get his opinions across. That's what he's trying to buy - a seat at the table.



I would say it's pretty sustainable for Cody Campbell given his wealth.

Even if he would like to see changes to the college football system.

[Alongside John Sellers, his former Texas Tech teammate, Campbell founded Double Eagle Energy Holdings, an oil and gas production company. In February, it was sold to Diamondback Energy Inc. in a deal worth more than $4 billion. It was hardly his first big payday, either. Campbell's previous two business deals were worth $2.8 billion (in 2017) and $6.4 billion (in 2021).]

Media estimates put his net worth at between $1.5 billion and $3 billion

Lets say it's on the lower side of $1.5 billion

He can spend $30-$60 million a year on Tech football if he wants and never touch the principal on his money

That is the way I see it. Given your $1.5 billion, $35 million is less than 3 percent of his wealth. That is like you or me sending Baylor 3 cents out of each dollar we have. I don't like the idea, but I could see doing that for several years if college football meant that much to me (it is beginning to not be in this new environment of trying to buy championships). And for those that have such wealth, even spending more is not going to disrupt their life style or future plans.

Heck, many people could accidently drop 3 pennies on the ground and wouldn't even bother to pick them up or lose 3% of their portfolio and not be too concerned. 3% is not a lot to give away in a given year, if it seems to bring you enjoyment and a perceived desire to hold it over your peers who support other teams. It is not a lot to these guys...and there are plenty of them.

There are only two things that will stop them.........a temporary one is that their coaching staff can't figure out how to get the right players and use them, in which case the staffs get replaced with those who can. Or that the rules change that outlaw this insanity....and that will likely be hard to do.

I suspect football at Tech is just the tip of the iceberg. They already bought a $1 million softball pitcher last year. I don't know what they have done with MBB as I don't keep up with it well, but I suspect MBB and WBB are certainly on the agenda.

The whole point of collegiate athletics has been lost. Is Baylor left behind by Tech under these conditions...without question, the answer is yes, but given the reasons and what a university is suppose to be all about, it doesn't really bother me all that much. I am happy if we just compete well with our peers. Tech is quickly becoming not a peer. Heck, they may surpass UT.

Thanks for sharing your opinion.
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Aberzombie1892 said:

BUATX2000 said:

Everyone wants to be an "oil school" until that FANG money starts showing up. Cal and Stanford are going to go on an epic run soon.


Their wealthiest alumni haven't been shown to really care about burning significant sums of money on NIL just to win football games. Maybe it changes; maybe not.


Bingo

Stanford has 30 billionaires (give or take)

But does even one of those billionaires care as much about college football (and want to spend millions of their personal money on it) as one small town Canyon Texas former football player like Campbell cares about Tech?

I doubt it
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FLBear5630 said:

RightRevBear said:

Baylor's Endowment is 2.2 Billion and Miami's is 1.59. I don't think you can draw any conclusions from this data due to a multitude of factors such as their people might spend more on football than endowed chairs or scholarships. Also, does Miami have a significant number of T-shirt fans that give to sports but not scholarships.

Waco's cost of living is 37% less than Miami's, so 2.2 billion goes a lot further in Waco.

I also wonder if the states with no income tax, like Texas and Florida, are discussing that with agents and players. I doubt they are because how many 18 year olds understand personal finance. As a middle aged adult, I care about these things. I know most 18 year olds don't.

Miami has one thing that Baylor does not. South Beach and the night culture.

Yeah, but does Miami have a Buc-ees only 30 minutes away from campus?

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Booboo Bear said:

FLBear5630 said:

RightRevBear said:

Baylor's Endowment is 2.2 Billion and Miami's is 1.59. I don't think you can draw any conclusions from this data due to a multitude of factors such as their people might spend more on football than endowed chairs or scholarships. Also, does Miami have a significant number of T-shirt fans that give to sports but not scholarships.

Waco's cost of living is 37% less than Miami's, so 2.2 billion goes a lot further in Waco.

I also wonder if the states with no income tax, like Texas and Florida, are discussing that with agents and players. I doubt they are because how many 18 year olds understand personal finance. As a middle aged adult, I care about these things. I know most 18 year olds don't.

Miami has one thing that Baylor does not. South Beach and the night culture.

Yeah, but does Miami have a Buc-ees only 30 minutes away from campus?



That is true... That is where we take recruiting players.
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Yep
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FLBear5630 said:

RightRevBear said:

Baylor's Endowment is 2.2 Billion and Miami's is 1.59. I don't think you can draw any conclusions from this data due to a multitude of factors such as their people might spend more on football than endowed chairs or scholarships. Also, does Miami have a significant number of T-shirt fans that give to sports but not scholarships.

Waco's cost of living is 37% less than Miami's, so 2.2 billion goes a lot further in Waco.

I also wonder if the states with no income tax, like Texas and Florida, are discussing that with agents and players. I doubt they are because how many 18 year olds understand personal finance. As a middle aged adult, I care about these things. I know most 18 year olds don't.

Miami has one thing that Baylor does not. South Beach and the night culture. Coral Gables is very nice and if you are getting NIL the million dollar mile is close and some top notch night life. My friends brother played for the Canes under Schnellenberger. Believe me, even then there was nothing in Waco that could touch it.


Having been to Miami and hanging out on South Beach I completely agree. I guess I was just shocked that we have a much larger endowment.
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boognish_bear said:




I guess that means Mark Cuban must have way more money than Phil Knight.
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boognish_bear said:



True, but then Indiana (Mark Cuban) put an everlasting beatdown on Oregon (Phil Knight). Fun stuff to watch!

Yeah, Knight may have more $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ than Cuban, which begs the question again: Which is more important, the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$, or the coaching.

The answer is not one or the other. The answer is yes.
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BUATX2000 said:

boognish_bear said:




I guess that means Mark Cuban must have way more money than Phil Knight.


I thought his point was that Phil Knight can afford to stay in this game longer than Campbell (and Cuban) can as the price for players escalates. It wasn't about one hand of poker or one football game.

AI thinks that as of 2025, Mark Cuban's net worth is estimated to be around $5.7 billion to $6 billion while Phil Knight's net worth was estimated around $35.4 billion to $35.7 billion.

Cuban & Indiana do have one major thing Phil Knight doesn't have and that's Curt Cignetti. Cignetti is the best force multiplier in CFB.

As a side note Stanford has Larry Page & Sergey Brin whose net worths is estimated around $269 & $259 billion. I'd bet these other guys hope Page & Brin continue to show a lack of interest in joining the game.
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A billionaire and a 50-billionaire can still buy the same Ferrari. Ain't much difference as far as buying 50 football players. They're just raising the price for everybody else.
"The only true currency in this bankrupt world is what you share with someone else when you're uncool."
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This is all so dumb. Can't wait for these huge programs to just break away and form their own league.


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FLBear5630 said:

RightRevBear said:

Baylor's Endowment is 2.2 Billion and Miami's is 1.59. I don't think you can draw any conclusions from this data due to a multitude of factors such as their people might spend more on football than endowed chairs or scholarships. Also, does Miami have a significant number of T-shirt fans that give to sports but not scholarships.

Waco's cost of living is 37% less than Miami's, so 2.2 billion goes a lot further in Waco.

I also wonder if the states with no income tax, like Texas and Florida, are discussing that with agents and players. I doubt they are because how many 18 year olds understand personal finance. As a middle aged adult, I care about these things. I know most 18 year olds don't.

Miami has one thing that Baylor does not. South Beach and the night culture. Coral Gables is very nice and if you are getting NIL the million dollar mile is close and some top notch night life. My friends brother played for the Canes under Schnellenberger. Believe me, even then there was nothing in Waco that could touch it.

Traditionally this isn't as big a deal as people make it out to be,

Miamis main recruiting base are players that are already from South Florida.
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Jacques Strap said:

BUATX2000 said:

boognish_bear said:




I guess that means Mark Cuban must have way more money than Phil Knight.


I thought his point was that Phil Knight can afford to stay in this game longer than Campbell (and Cuban) can as the price for players escalates. It wasn't about one hand of poker or one football game.

AI thinks that as of 2025, Mark Cuban's net worth is estimated to be around $5.7 billion to $6 billion while Phil Knight's net worth was estimated around $35.4 billion to $35.7 billion.

Cuban & Indiana do have one major thing Phil Knight doesn't have and that's Curt Cignetti. Cignetti is the best force multiplier in CFB.

As a side note Stanford has Larry Page & Sergey Brin whose net worths is estimated around $269 & $259 billion. I'd bet these other guys hope Page & Brin continue to show a lack of interest in joining the game.


Yep

Absolutely depends on what school's alumni care enough to spend.

Standford's 30 plus Billionaires can run over everyone....the question is do these guys care enough about college football to spend their own money on it?
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I would guess most billionaires out there are not actually interested in buying a sports team for a season or two for a university.
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Redbrickbear said:

Jacques Strap said:

BUATX2000 said:

boognish_bear said:




I guess that means Mark Cuban must have way more money than Phil Knight.


I thought his point was that Phil Knight can afford to stay in this game longer than Campbell (and Cuban) can as the price for players escalates. It wasn't about one hand of poker or one football game.

AI thinks that as of 2025, Mark Cuban's net worth is estimated to be around $5.7 billion to $6 billion while Phil Knight's net worth was estimated around $35.4 billion to $35.7 billion.

Cuban & Indiana do have one major thing Phil Knight doesn't have and that's Curt Cignetti. Cignetti is the best force multiplier in CFB.

As a side note Stanford has Larry Page & Sergey Brin whose net worths is estimated around $269 & $259 billion. I'd bet these other guys hope Page & Brin continue to show a lack of interest in joining the game.


Yep

Absolutely depends on what school's alumni care enough to spend.

Standford's 30 plus Billionaires can run over everyone....the question is do these guys care enough about college football to spend their own money on it?

I doubt Stanfords guys care about sportsball. The silicon valley type guys dont strike me as the kind who watch or care about college football. Cuban donated $20mill to Indiana but he himself said he never once went to a football game and only cared about bball when he was there. I doubt cubes is going to try and be a Cody Campbell but he will just throw them some donations for the sports teams.
 
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