Thee University said:

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cowboycwr said:

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Again, if you don't like the current game, don't support the current Bears then just leave. Because no one will miss you. I know I sure won't as I ignore any future blabber from you.

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Don't go full WNFL on me now! Don't go limp-wristed on me. You are giving up. Are you going to hit the transfer portal???

If you quit on me now like a modern football player does when he transfers because he can't start or can't be #1 I'll never respect you. Promise me you'll grow some backbone before you slink back to posting here.

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I'm not going anywhere. You are the one who should as you have said you will not support Baylor or college athletics in its current format and will go watch high school football.

I will keep posting. I just won't respond to your brain damaged nonsense posts anymore.

That's a relief. I had you tabbed to hit the Transfer Portal. I get to marvel at your drivel a little bit longer.

Maybe we can get together at a Baylor game since I still support the Bears. Always have, always will.

I can work around your trips to Portales. By the way, there is an excellent Sands Motel right there by ENM you might want to jump on before it's full.

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A few more things that often outweigh your strength, speed & size BS…………desire, heart, knowledge, experience & discipline.

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If that was true, the service academies would be winning national championships on a regular basis. It is only when strength, speed, and size are roughly equal do these other intangibles come into play on a regular basis. While the intangibles can very rarely overcome tangibles resulting in a historic upset it doesn't happen often.

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Thee University said:

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A few more things that often outweigh your strength, speed & size BS…………desire, heart, knowledge, experience & discipline.

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If that was true, the service academies would be winning national championships on a regular basis. It is only when strength, speed, and size are roughly equal do these other intangibles come into play on a regular basis. While the intangibles can very rarely overcome tangibles resulting in a historic upset it doesn't happen often.

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Isn't it interesting that people assume that highly recruited, highly paid athletes don't have desire, heart, knowledge, or experience? As if it's just the noble, gritty walk-ons bringing their lunch pails to work who are playing for the love of the game that have those qualities, and the big dumb jocks trying to get a paycheck are barely trying and aren't good teammates.


Real life isn't church upwards basketball where they give out a "best attitude" star. Guess what, the guy that scored 30 points on your team who is getting wined and dined by recruiters (who you're looking down on, ironically) might've had a great attitude as well!

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Thee University said:

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A few more things that often outweigh your strength, speed & size BS…………desire, heart, knowledge, experience & discipline.

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If that was true, the service academies would be winning national championships on a regular basis. It is only when strength, speed, and size are roughly equal do these other intangibles come into play on a regular basis. While the intangibles can very rarely overcome tangibles resulting in a historic upset it doesn't happen often.

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But you see he saw this one guy in the 80s that had heart and desire and became a starter and went on to the NFL draft so that means he is better than any player on ANY team (he will respond with some drivel about only one team/coach) and that current NFL players are soft, have no heart, no desire, etc.

cowboycwr said:

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Realitybites said:

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Thee University said:

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A few more things that often outweigh your strength, speed & size BS…………desire, heart, knowledge, experience & discipline.

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If that was true, the service academies would be winning national championships on a regular basis. It is only when strength, speed, and size are roughly equal do these other intangibles come into play on a regular basis. While the intangibles can very rarely overcome tangibles resulting in a historic upset it doesn't happen often.

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But you see he saw this one guy in the 80s that had heart and desire and became a starter and went on to the NFL draft so that means he is better than any player on ANY team (he will respond with some drivel about only one team/coach) and that current NFL players are soft, have no heart, no desire, etc.

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Literally everyone that's ever been through a system thinks that people who went through that system after them had it easier than them, or that people who went through the system after them did it for less noble motives than they did.

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Thee University said:

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A few more things that often outweigh your strength, speed & size BS…………desire, heart, knowledge, experience & discipline.

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If that was true, the service academies would be winning national championships on a regular basis. It is only when strength, speed, and size are roughly equal do these other intangibles come into play on a regular basis. While the intangibles can very rarely overcome tangibles resulting in a historic upset it doesn't happen often.

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2022 Armed Services Bowl
December 22, 2022
Amon Carter Stadium
Air Force - 30
Baylor - 15

Let's not forget:

2006 @ Baylor Stadium
Army - 27
Baylor - 20

cowboycwr said:

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Realitybites said:

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Thee University said:

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A few more things that often outweigh your strength, speed & size BS…………desire, heart, knowledge, experience & discipline.

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If that was true, the service academies would be winning national championships on a regular basis. It is only when strength, speed, and size are roughly equal do these other intangibles come into play on a regular basis. While the intangibles can very rarely overcome tangibles resulting in a historic upset it doesn't happen often.

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But you see he saw this one guy in the 80s that had heart and desire and became a starter and went on to the NFL draft so that means he is better than any player on ANY team (he will respond with some drivel about only one team/coach) and that current NFL players are soft, have no heart, no desire, etc.

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Heart & Desire? I give you Mike Singletary. Maybe 5'11" & 230 lbs. 8 times All-Pro, 10 times pro bowl.

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Literally everyone that's ever been through a system thinks that people who went through that system after them had it easier than them, or that people who went through the system after them did it for less noble motives than they did.

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Not true.

However........ask anyone if the rules changes for both college & pro football have made it easier (safer) than it was 30, 40, 50 years ago.

Training camps are easier and less physical.

I'm giving you boys a Jethro Bodine 6th grade football edumacation

As I predicted he came back with one example that somehow applies to everyone. Using his logic (or rather lack of logic) that means he himself had no heart and desire since that is apparently what turns someone into a hall of famer.

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As I predicted he came back with one example that somehow applies to everyone. Using his logic (or rather lack of logic) that means he himself had no heart and desire since that is apparently what turns someone into a hall of famer.

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Who said it applies to everyone? You. Only you because you have lost this joust horrifically. Mike was the first one to come to mind and since he is a Baylor man I used him as my first example. My fingers get tired so I've started cutting back on my lessons taught to the weak & unschooled in the game of football.

How did you get brain damage playing Madden football?

My heart & desire may not have been very impressive and certainly I had other interests that trumped football but my heart & desire was enough to turn me into a Baylor Hall of Famer.

Nobody can be as clueless as you post here. I'll let you play along though.

Thee University said:

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cowboycwr said:

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As I predicted he came back with one example that somehow applies to everyone. Using his logic (or rather lack of logic) that means he himself had no heart and desire since that is apparently what turns someone into a hall of famer.

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Who said it applies to everyone? You. Only you because you have lost this joust horrifically. Mike was the first one to come to mind and since he is a Baylor man I used him as my first example. My fingers get tired so I've started cutting back on my lessons taught to the weak & unschooled in the game of football.

How did you get brain damage playing Madden football?

My heart & desire may not have been very impressive and certainly I had other interests that trumped football but my heart & desire was enough to turn me into a Baylor Hall of Famer.

Nobody can be as clueless as you post here. I'll let you play along though.

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Blah blah blah.

You are delusional and brain damaged. Your arguments are all over the place. You change stances constantly. Like when you said you were done and not watching another game.

Welcome to ignore.

"The team with the best players usually wins."
- multiple sources

Rudy had heart and desire, even had a movie made about him. He just wasn't very good. And he was offsides.

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Blah blah blah.

You are delusional and brain damaged. Your arguments are all over the place. You change stances constantly. Like when you said you were done and not watching another game.

Welcome to ignore.

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Delusional? No.

Brain damaged? Yes. But obviously not as serious as yours.

My arguments are backed up by FACTS. Check the record books. You throw ____ up against the wall and nothing sticks.

My stances remain solid and verifiable. Every single one of them. I never said I was "done" with Baylor football.
I just said I'll be teeing up high school football more than BU and most assuredly will add to my Burnet Bulldog season tickets by attending games in Llano, Mason (at the Puncher Dome), Evant Elks & Richland Springs. I'll hit a few Baylor games too.

Thee University said:

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cowboycwr said:

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As I predicted he came back with one example that somehow applies to everyone. Using his logic (or rather lack of logic) that means he himself had no heart and desire since that is apparently what turns someone into a hall of famer.

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Who said it applies to everyone? You. Only you because you have lost this joust horrifically. Mike was the first one to come to mind and since he is a Baylor man I used him as my first example. My fingers get tired so I've started cutting back on my lessons taught to the weak & unschooled in the game of football.

How did you get brain damage playing Madden football?

My heart & desire may not have been very impressive and certainly I had other interests that trumped football but my heart & desire was enough to turn me into a Baylor Hall of Famer.

Nobody can be as clueless as you post here. I'll let you play along though.

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Thee University said:

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cowboycwr said:

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As I predicted he came back with one example that somehow applies to everyone. Using his logic (or rather lack of logic) that means he himself had no heart and desire since that is apparently what turns someone into a hall of famer.

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Who said it applies to everyone? You. Only you because you have lost this joust horrifically. Mike was the first one to come to mind and since he is a Baylor man I used him as my first example. My fingers get tired so I've started cutting back on my lessons taught to the weak & unschooled in the game of football.

How did you get brain damage playing Madden football?

My heart & desire may not have been very impressive and certainly I had other interests that trumped football but my heart & desire was enough to turn me into a Baylor Hall of Famer.

Nobody can be as clueless as you post here. I'll let you play along though.

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Yes, A Baylor Hall of Famer, now start acting like one !

LSU basketball currently has only four players listed on its roster two weeks before classes start.

4 players
5 coaches
11 support staff pic.twitter.com/TijffNWti6

— Front Office Sports (@FOS) August 6, 2026

BEAR 45 said:

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Yes, A Baylor Hall of Famer, now start acting like one !

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You will have to forgive me. I never thought I was HOF material, never lobbied for the position and was not given a playbook on what to say, how to lie about reality or how to bow down to obvious "toe the company line" apologists.

Thee University said:

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BEAR 45 said:

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Yes, A Baylor Hall of Famer, now start acting like one !

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You will have to forgive me. I never thought I was HOF material, never lobbied for the position and was not given a playbook on what to say, how to lie about reality or how to bow down to obvious "toe the company line" apologists.

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Go Greyhounds!

Thee University said:

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BEAR 45 said:

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Yes, A Baylor Hall of Famer, now start acting like one !

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You will have to forgive me. I never thought I was HOF material, never lobbied for the position and was not given a playbook on what to say, how to lie about reality or how to bow down to obvious "toe the company line" apologists.those who never had the opportunity to play the game at

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WOW, Unbelievable, but OK, I'll play along. There have been thousands of US that have put on the Green and Gold through more than a century of football. Yes I did say US ! We were lucky enough to have been given the opportunity to play a game we all loved. Some of US have won championships, others were not so fortunate. We all have opinions and this forum gives everyone , both ex --players and alumni or just fans in general a place to freely discuss them with others . Not one of those expressing an opinion deserves to be treated in the manner that you do, simply for having a different opinion, You DEMEAN for no reason other than your own narcissistic pleasure and proudly admit it on this site.You find it entertaining. SICK ! I am embarrassed as a Baylor letterman and alumni, not for what you post, as crazy as I personally find some of to be, but because you personally take pleasure in insulting anyone you see as not having your expert experience. Now ,add the fact that you have been given a special honor, by Baylor lettermen and Baylor alumni as a Hall of Fame inductee. This honor is awarded, not necessarily because any player were the best that ever walked on a Baylor field. There are numerous Baylor players that had solid NFL careers who have not been HONORED , and many who have been. that never set foot in an NFL camp. I have 8 teammates who have been awarded this honor and not one of them would berate people on a website in the manner you do. Maybe you can understand this, I respect the career you had, but don;t respect you for how treat other people

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WOW, Unbelievable, but OK, I'll play along. There have been thousands of US that have put on the Green and Gold through more than a century of football. Yes I did say US ! We were lucky enough to have been given the opportunity to play a game we all loved. Some of US have won championships, others were not so fortunate. We all have opinions and this forum gives everyone , both ex --players and alumni or just fans in general a place to freely discuss them with others . Not one of those expressing an opinion deserves to be treated in the manner that you do, simply for having a different opinion, You DEMEAN for no reason other than your own narcissistic pleasure and proudly admit it on this site.You find it entertaining. SICK ! I am embarrassed as a Baylor letterman and alumni, not for what you post, as crazy as I personally find some of to be, but because you personally take pleasure in insulting anyone you see as not having your expert experience. Now ,add the fact that you have been given a special honor, by Baylor lettermen and Baylor alumni as a Hall of Fame inductee. This honor is awarded, not necessarily because any player were the best that ever walked on a Baylor field. There are numerous Baylor players that had solid NFL careers who have not been HONORED , and many who have been. that never set foot in an NFL camp. I have 8 teammates who have been awarded this honor and not one of them would berate people on a website in the manner you do. Maybe you can understand this, I respect the career you had, but don;t respect you for how treat other people

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The last time I looked this was a sports bulletin board that allowed just about anybody the ability to assume a screen name and say just about anything they wanted to say. Most people know that this is for entertainment and fun.

Opinions here mean very little in case you have not figured that out by now. Everybody has one. A sense of humor is needed to have fun here given the wide variety of posters and their football acumen.

Just like society there are people with thin skin who take themselves way too serious. I've always approached the previous BaylorFans and 365 as a place like the Table of Knowledge at George's where you can discuss many subjects, be as outrageous as you desire and when they turn out the lights forgive, forget and go home. My friends at Baylor were of a very wide variety and we enjoyed ripping each other in public but we all knew it was in jest. You might consider that type of humor to be unbecoming and I probably would be bored with your "too serious for me" demeanor and not made fun of you. Frankly I've always enjoyed the give and take and have always had a tendency to ruffle some feathers to see if you can take it or not. I especially enjoyed ramping it up a bit when an "expert" sat at the table.

It does cause me to stop for a second and go back and reread my posts to see if I berated someone or simply made a little fun of them when they themselves make outlandish claims they could not or did not support with facts.

Like you I have right at 20 teammates that are HOF inductees and if you visited with them for a while you would find out that my personality that they saw and knew would be one of having fun, talking some trash, jousting verbally and kidding around to keep things light, fun and upbeat. Sure, not all of them liked me and I did not hang out with all of them but they also knew the REAL person that was their dependable teammate. If you told them how often I've defended the talent level of the teams I was on ('77-'80) they would not be surprised that I get a little protective and am very proud of what we accomplished way back 45+ years ago. Done before Baylor really opened up their wallet.

I've always enjoyed good back & forth. The FACT that I was fortunate to have played on one of Baylor's greatest teams ever probably gave me a little bit more impetuous to post like an arrogant tough guy when challenged or dismissed.

So.....I will close with a serious (as serious as I can get) apology to ALL who got their feelings hurt, are disgusted that a man of my nature speaks on a bulletin board like a narcissistic Donald Trump. My advice to most of you is to #1 Don't read my posts, #2 Engage and fire back on me but do so with some humor attached so as to entertain others & #3 Put yourself in my shoes which I know is hard to do when you have such a low opinion of me.

I've been posting like this as far back as the old Southwest Conference Board started this entire bulletin board craze in the 90's. I was much tougher on Horns, Ags and other foes than my own kind (Bears). Many perusers of this board understand my goal of laughing at serious matters instead of crying about them. Many do not.

Don't be embarrassed. Don't get sick. I'll be gone in a few more years (or less) and you can enjoy a sterile, clorox washed environment scrubbed clean for even the most devoted of the Baylor Bubble.

Thee University said:

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BEAR 45 said:

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WOW, Unbelievable, but OK, I'll play along. There have been thousands of US that have put on the Green and Gold through more than a century of football. Yes I did say US ! We were lucky enough to have been given the opportunity to play a game we all loved. Some of US have won championships, others were not so fortunate. We all have opinions and this forum gives everyone , both ex --players and alumni or just fans in general a place to freely discuss them with others . Not one of those expressing an opinion deserves to be treated in the manner that you do, simply for having a different opinion, You DEMEAN for no reason other than your own narcissistic pleasure and proudly admit it on this site.You find it entertaining. SICK ! I am embarrassed as a Baylor letterman and alumni, not for what you post, as crazy as I personally find some of to be, but because you personally take pleasure in insulting anyone you see as not having your expert experience. Now ,add the fact that you have been given a special honor, by Baylor lettermen and Baylor alumni as a Hall of Fame inductee. This honor is awarded, not necessarily because any player were the best that ever walked on a Baylor field. There are numerous Baylor players that had solid NFL careers who have not been HONORED , and many who have been. that never set foot in an NFL camp. I have 8 teammates who have been awarded this honor and not one of them would berate people on a website in the manner you do. Maybe you can understand this, I respect the career you had, but don;t respect you for how treat other people

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The last time I looked this was a sports bulletin board that allowed just about anybody the ability to assume a screen name and say just about anything they wanted to say. Most people know that this is for entertainment and fun.

Opinions here mean very little in case you have not figured that out by now. Everybody has one. A sense of humor is needed to have fun here given the wide variety of posters and their football acumen.

Just like society there are people with thin skin who take themselves way too serious. I've always approached the previous BaylorFans and 365 as a place like the Table of Knowledge at George's where you can discuss many subjects, be as outrageous as you desire and when they turn out the lights forgive, forget and go home. My friends at Baylor were of a very wide variety and we enjoyed ripping each other in public but we all knew it was in jest. You might consider that type of humor to be unbecoming and I probably would be bored with your "too serious for me" demeanor and not made fun of you. Frankly I've always enjoyed the give and take and have always had a tendency to ruffle some feathers to see if you can take it or not. I especially enjoyed ramping it up a bit when an "expert" sat at the table.

It does cause me to stop for a second and go back and reread my posts to see if I berated someone or simply made a little fun of them when they themselves make outlandish claims they could not or did not support with facts.

Like you I have right at 20 teammates that are HOF inductees and if you visited with them for a while you would find out that my personality that they saw and knew would be one of having fun, talking some trash, jousting verbally and kidding around to keep things light, fun and upbeat. Sure, not all of them liked me and I did not hang out with all of them but they also knew the REAL person that was their dependable teammate. If you told them how often I've defended the talent level of the teams I was on ('77-'80) they would not be surprised that I get a little protective and am very proud of what we accomplished way back 45+ years ago. Done before Baylor really opened up their wallet.

I've always enjoyed good back & forth. The FACT that I was fortunate to have played on one of Baylor's greatest teams ever probably gave me a little bit more impetuous to post like an arrogant tough guy when challenged or dismissed.

So.....I will close with a serious (as serious as I can get) apology to ALL who got their feelings hurt, are disgusted that a man of my nature speaks on a bulletin board like a narcissistic Donald Trump. My advice to most of you is to #1 Don't read my posts, #2 Engage and fire back on me but do so with some humor attached so as to entertain others & #3 Put yourself in my shoes which I know is hard to do when you have such a low opinion of me.

I've been posting like this as far back as the old Southwest Conference Board started this entire bulletin board craze in the 90's. I was much tougher on Horns, Ags and other foes than my own kind (Bears). Many perusers of this board understand my goal of laughing at serious matters instead of crying about them. Many do not.

Don't be embarrassed. Don't get sick. I'll be gone in a few more years (or less) and you can enjoy a sterile, clorox washed environment scrubbed clean for even the most devoted of the Baylor Bubble.

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Nine paragraphs. I believe a nerve was touched.