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BluesBear said:

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What we need is a loss to Prairie View. That should be the final nail in the coffin. You can't possible get to stay after losing to a team like that

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Hell, Little Matty lost to Liberty and ten other stiffs and got his ownself an NFL job out of the deal. What a con artist! And Baylor paid Mack $1.8 million for decisions like that.

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4 wins he stays. Maybe 3. This is a money issue and a leadership incompetence issue. Neither will change regardless of wins or losses.

Youre a clown said:

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Mitch Henessey said:

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OP needs to get some hobbies and move out of mom's basement

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It's a tragedy. I believe he has come down with the rare disease known as Aranda Derangement Syndrome (ADS). this is a tragic condition that has no real cure except for the immediate firing of Dave Aranda. If allowed to persist, the patient will begin to moan uncontrollably and go online and type up progressively more angry posts about Dave Aranda. In later stages, the patient will begin to wear more mustard-colored clothing items and have infrequent hallucinations of Art Briles being coach at Baylor again. If allowed to progress untreated, the patient eventually falls into a coma like state of complete indifference about Baylor football and may even begin to think that Linda is awesome if the brain damage was severe. Extremely sad situation

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Or maybe like me he has Losing Derangement Syndrome.

I have a very bad case of that. Gets worse when I see no hope of that problem changing.

Money is one issue, wouldn't say it's the biggest. The use of the available funds may be a bigger one. But it's certainly not all money.

IowaBear said:

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How many years is the money excuse going to be used? What's his buyout after the season? 10 million ish? If Baylor can't afford that it's time to join the Southland.

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This website is grounded in cynicism. Some of that may be justified. Still, I think a lot of it is built on dubious assumptions.

If Dave goes 8-4 and then wins a bowl against a quality opponent, I think it'd be hard to fire him. Even that might depend on what the team looked like -- the defense clearly has to get a lot better. Otherwise, I think the new AD goes looking for his guy.

Money was used by Cult Barber, and the chick named Ashley because they didn't really know why he was still here nor what was going on

Saying "it's the money" was just lazy reporting by them

Like the DEI hire Jovan said, "The football world needs a Dave Aranda as HC" or some bs like that

Well...I hope he is able to keep his job. Not because I think he is a good coach but because we win a lot of games. I am tired of losing. That means we will owe him less money when he finally goes.

8-4, 1 bowl game gets it done. I can see it happening.

They may be taking the Scott Drew approach. 6 of his first 8 seasons were bad to mediocre. Maybe 5 of the first 8, depending on how you look at it. Aranda is getting a little grace, since he won a Big12 championship and capped off the best season in Baylor history with a bowl win against and SEC opponent. He has to go 8-4 and win a bowl game in my opinion. If he loses the bowl, it will depend on the circumstances around the lost. To add to that, he needs to establish an identity and gamble less on 4th down (this has cost us several games and has made some losses look worse than they should have). Again, my opinion, my perspective.

IowaBear said:

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How many years is the money excuse going to be used? What's his buyout after the season? 10 million ish? If Baylor can't afford that it's time to join the Southland.

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Totally agree. Baylor as a school is struggling to stay inside its overall budget. The $20mil towards athletes is apparently tough to absorb. On top of that several big donors are pissed after Briles fiasco and other athletic issues and not giving money.

We are in trouble in the win buying era of college sports. We can earn championships. We just can't afford to buy them.

A school serious about football with competent leaders figures out a way to fire incompetent coaches. We are not serious about winning and our leadership is in over their heads.

One solution is we need to sell more Field and Stream magazines.....That will cover the $20M budget gap.

There is so much bloat in that school - it's ridiculous....unfortunately, they cut the wrong programs and benefits - - increasing tuition isn't the solution...

I hope you opinion is completely wrong

Sorry, brother

Here's how I would handicap the percentage chance that he keeps his job, knowing nothing else but the number of wins.

less than 6 -> <5%
6 -> 15% (this means a 6-7 record in all likelihood)
7->50%
8->75%
9 or more -> >95%

So in short, I think the real inflection point is outlook will be around getting wins 7, 8, and 9, if he gets there.

Not happening. Baylor only fires its good coaches.

See, I think money is an issue, and that's also why I don't understand the angle of keeping Dave around for another year. I've seen that our big money folks are becoming burned out on Dave and the NIL pay for play paradigm, so how does kicking the can down the road really help anything? I had also heard that Dave wasn't given the budget this last recruiting cycle that he was expecting because of apathy with the big money donors, so that begs the question again


I have no delusions that we're going to go out and hire Urban Meyer or something, but somebody like the Navy coach that's used to taking a group of disciplined and motivated 2 star players and turning them into a cohesive unit is what we need to aim for imo. Despite my pessimism, I still think we can turn the ship around if we hire the right coach, but that's a big if

LOL! I'm trying and I mean trying to stay positive. I just hope Baylor football becomes relevant again.

I have to think our AD will not be satisfied with less than 8 wins. But, I don't know if the decision is his to make.

There's no way we're good this year, on paper at least.

DJ Lagway is unproven; Sawyer was better and he had a better offense supporting him.

The only way we win 8+ games is if our DC can somehow turn the defense over and/or DJ Lagway balls out

BigGameBaylorBear said:

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There's no way we're good this year, on paper at least.

DJ Lagway is unproven; Sawyer was better and he had a better offense supporting him.

The only way we win 8+ games is if our DC can somehow turn the defense over and/or DJ Lagway balls out

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I know there's no way we're winning 8+ games. But after a coach has been here as long as he has, there should be no less expectation.

Nobody knows how good Baylor is going to be, or how bad their opponents are going to be, or how lucky or unlucky they get this season.

Coaching eval will be based on coaching, not a number. Look competent, look hopeful, get the fans enthusiastic about the direction regardless of record. Make Baylor football an appealing product again.

Dia del DougO said:

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Nobody knows how good Baylor is going to be, or how bad their opponents are going to be, or how lucky or unlucky they get this season.

Coaching eval will be based on coaching, not a number. Look competent, look hopeful, get the fans enthusiastic about the direction regardless of record. Make Baylor football an appealing product again.

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The "show signs of improvement" metric became kaput last year when certain folks thought we were turning a corner during the win streak in 2024, only to take two steps back in 2025…..the honest truth is that Aranda will be gone when our (remaining) big money donors tell Doug and Linda, "this happens, or we stop donating. Here's a check for his buyout and for NIL guarantees for the next guy"

Until that happens, everybody had better get used to the golf clap and losing by last second Hail Marys

I want this to be all a bad dream

Youre a clown said:

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Dia del DougO said:

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Nobody knows how good Baylor is going to be, or how bad their opponents are going to be, or how lucky or unlucky they get this season.

Coaching eval will be based on coaching, not a number. Look competent, look hopeful, get the fans enthusiastic about the direction regardless of record. Make Baylor football an appealing product again.

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The "show signs of improvement" metric became kaput last year when certain folks thought we were turning a corner during the win streak in 2024, only to take two steps back in 2025…..the honest truth is that Aranda will be gone when our (remaining) big money donors tell Doug and Linda, "this happens, or we stop donating. Here's a check for his buyout and for NIL guarantees for the next guy"

Until that happens, everybody had better get used to the golf clap and losing by last second Hail Marys

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Well, I never had a particular good vibe about coaching since 2021, but I don't get to be AD.

I think you are looking at this from the wrong perspective

I think he gets fired after his 6th loss this season

The question is how many games into the season wil this be?

Tylerbear said:

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I think you are looking at this from the wrong perspective

I think he gets fired after his 6th loss this season

The question is how many games into the season wil this be?

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Sept. 5 Auburn (Atlanta, GA Mercedes-Benz Stadium) loss

Sept. 12 Prairie View A&M (Waco, TX) win

Sept. 19 Louisiana Tech (Waco, TX) win

Sept. 26 Colorado (Waco, TX) toss up

Oct. 3 at Arizona State (Tempe, AZ) loss

Oct. 10 Bye Week

Oct. 17 TCU (Waco, TX)loss

Oct. 24 at Kansas (Lawrence, KS) loss

Oct. 30 (Friday) at UCF (Orlando, FL) loss


By this point, we'll be 2-6, maybe 3-5, and I think/hope Doug is forced to make a move

How ****ed up is this when we have to pray this loser sucks so badly that the AD has no choice?

God, I hate BU rn

Youre a clown said:

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Dia del DougO said:

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Nobody knows how good Baylor is going to be, or how bad their opponents are going to be, or how lucky or unlucky they get this season.

Coaching eval will be based on coaching, not a number. Look competent, look hopeful, get the fans enthusiastic about the direction regardless of record. Make Baylor football an appealing product again.

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The "show signs of improvement" metric became kaput last year when certain folks thought we were turning a corner during the win streak in 2024, only to take two steps back in 2025…..the honest truth is that Aranda will be gone when our (remaining) big money donors tell Doug and Linda, "this happens, or we stop donating. Here's a check for his buyout and for NIL guarantees for the next guy"

Until that happens, everybody had better get used to the golf clap and losing by last second Hail Marys

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That's kinda what I'm talking about. Winning a game isn't necessarily a sign of improvement, at least not that much. And vice versa. We've seen games won where it still doesn't look like improvement, a very unsatisfying feeling.

Some kind of building of consistency, team identity, trajectory towards a better program, smart football and athletic talent on the field need to tick upwards.

And it would help a lot of the team is really fun to watch. That's a big one.

Dia del DougO said:

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Youre a clown said:

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Dia del DougO said:

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Nobody knows how good Baylor is going to be, or how bad their opponents are going to be, or how lucky or unlucky they get this season.

Coaching eval will be based on coaching, not a number. Look competent, look hopeful, get the fans enthusiastic about the direction regardless of record. Make Baylor football an appealing product again.

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The "show signs of improvement" metric became kaput last year when certain folks thought we were turning a corner during the win streak in 2024, only to take two steps back in 2025…..the honest truth is that Aranda will be gone when our (remaining) big money donors tell Doug and Linda, "this happens, or we stop donating. Here's a check for his buyout and for NIL guarantees for the next guy"

Until that happens, everybody had better get used to the golf clap and losing by last second Hail Marys

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Well, I never had a particular good vibe about coaching since 2021, but I don't get to be AD.

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I haven't had a good vibe since 2016.

Nobody knows how "good" the Bears will be. Nobody knows what the BU admin response will be to successes and failures. At this point, even the AD and the administration don't know what the threshold for retention or dismissal of Aranda is or will be. They're not hedging bets (analogy thanks to Sorsby). They don't know what they will do because they may not know what they can do in terms of $$$.I don't think they'll solidify their position until game 7 or so, and even then I suspect they will vacillate unless Aranda goes 0-fer, which IMO isn't likely. However, I do think Dave cannot survive even one "Utah game" this year. Certainly hope not. Just enjoy the ride, I guess, if you can.

Danielsjackson114 said:

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That's crazy. You sure as hell don't work at a performance related job

And if you do, can you get me a job? I want really high pay for mediocre to bad results

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There is little to no evidence that he's wrong. Chill out.

TenBears said:

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Not happening. Baylor only fires its good coaches.

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Guy Morriss was a good coach? What about Kevin Steele?