Vegas sets BU O/U win total at 6.5

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TheBearableVariabl3 said:

Heck 8 wins should be unacceptable with this easy ass schedule. We have such low standards here.


You realize that's what our opponents are saying about us, right?
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boognish_bear said:







I'm over it. A requirement for our next coach needs to be somebody that buckles down and can take mid-level talent and turn them into something decent on a consistent basis. Coaches talking about NIL struggles is starting to come across like excuse making for their own personal failures; It's interesting that coaches never advocate for their own salaries being capped, and they get paid whether they will win or lose
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Youre a clown said:

boognish_bear said:







I'm over it. A requirement for our next coach needs to be somebody that buckles down and can take mid-level talent and turn them into something decent on a consistent basis. Coaches talking about NIL struggles is starting to come across like excuse making for their own personal failures; It's interesting that coaches never advocate for their own salaries being capped, and they get paid whether they will win or lose

Like Art Briles and Phil Bennett did
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I agree...but finding those guys is like finding a unicorn. Then holding on to them when they start taking off will always be a problem with programs on BU's level.
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boognish_bear said:

I agree...but finding those guys is like finding a unicorn. Then holding on to them when they start taking off will always be a problem with programs on BU's level.

Art Briles would have retired as Baylor's HC. And a whole lot of the BU people who know that's true are now permanently disguised as empty seats.

Go Greyhounds!
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boognish_bear said:

I agree...but finding those guys is like finding a unicorn. Then holding on to them when they start taking off will always be a problem with programs on BU's level.


True, and I'm not living in a hollywood movie where we're going to be able to take the kind of talent we're getting now and somehow get to the playoffs. I just want consistent decency, a good game plan, for players to show up to the game ready to play in the first quarter, and not lose any games by last second Hail Marys.
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We let James Blanchard just walk to Texas Tech. We could hire him back here and tell him to find the best players that fit our budget. We need someone in that general manager role that knows what theyre doing and how to find under the radar talent,

I would have to say under on the 6 wins. Auburn L, BYU L, UH L, AZst L, Tech L and possibly also Kansas. We usually cant beat TCU so probable L.
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muddybrazos said:

We let James Blanchard just walk to Texas Tech. We could hire him back here and tell him to find the best players that fit our budget. We need someone in that general manager role that knows what theyre doing and how to find under the radar talent,

I would have to say under on the 6 wins. Auburn L, BYU L, UH L, AZst L, Tech L and possibly also Kansas. We usually cant beat TCU so probable L.


I think James was able to get us those under the radar players for a couple years, but eventually people caught on to the fact that he knew what he was doing, and multiple other P5 schools would offer as soon as we did. In the current landscape of NIL, we would still be getting into bidding wars that we couldn't win even if he was here. There were also players that James helped recruit that didn't pan out, which goes back to the whole idea that the opportunity cost generally isn't worth it recruiting high school players versus finding players in the portal that have already been through a college strength and conditioning program.
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If Davey Poo wins 6 games

We will have to endure another 3 years of mediocrity
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he doesn't stay under 8 wins. we know why he wasn't fired last year so if they underperform again he's done.
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Bearsalwayswin said:

he doesn't stay under 8 wins. we know why he wasn't fired last year so if they underperform again he's done.

I'm not from Missouri, but they'll have to show me anyway.
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Bearsalwayswin said:

he doesn't stay under 8 wins. we know why he wasn't fired last year so if they underperform again he's done.

I have a hard time finding 8 wins on that schedule.
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muddybrazos said:

Bearsalwayswin said:

he doesn't stay under 8 wins. we know why he wasn't fired last year so if they underperform again he's done.

I have a hard time finding 8 wins on that schedule.


Six wins is about the most I see, and that assumes that DJ Lagway is healthy for every single game. I hope I'm wrong, but history suggests that that's probably not going to be our reality
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Dave wasn't fired because of doug. we have doug now. anything less then 8 he should be gone.
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I still don't get why we couldn't just hire an interim a la Jim Grobe. Just such a gut punch to the fanbase to run it back with a proven loser.
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Yeah remember the whole thing was after December of last year we could do whatever we want with Dave because his contract got a lot smaller?

That's why I don't believe any of this bs that the moderators push anymore
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he's gone with less then 8.
Danielsjackson114
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Then when he wins 2 the next season, are we just gonna keep citing this season and the "flashes" we had.
Bearsalwayswin
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dude i'm not saying dave shouldn't have been fired. He should have, but saying that last season had nothing to do with the AD getting fired is just not true. if mack had been fine then we wouldn't be in this situation, dave would be gone. If dave doesn't get 8 wins he won't be back. I'm not saying even at 8 wins i want him back, but he won't be under 8.
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IowaBear
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Baylor's not firing Dave if he goes 7-5.. hell he's likely to get a raise at that point. Barring something like 3-9 or worse he's staying. Baylor likes Dave more than they do winning football games
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i get that it feels that way i just say there is 0 chance of that happening.
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We are in a vicious cycle of Davey Poo "almost being there"
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Bearsalwayswin said:

dude i'm not saying dave shouldn't have been fired. He should have, but saying that last season had nothing to do with the AD getting fired is just not true. if mack had been fine then we wouldn't be in this situation, dave would be gone. If dave doesn't get 8 wins he won't be back. I'm not saying even at 8 wins i want him back, but he won't be under 8.

Doug could've fired Dave when he arrived and he didn't. That is a Doug problem.

Any other school takes care of both of the AD and coaching hiring simultaneously. Pretending that this was Mack issue and "but for" the Mack conduct we wouldn't have Dave is a line that the admin has sold to you and others and you have bought it.

Genuinely, this is not hard and everyone wants to pretend that it is.
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Baylorbears111 said:

Bearsalwayswin said:

dude i'm not saying dave shouldn't have been fired. He should have, but saying that last season had nothing to do with the AD getting fired is just not true. if mack had been fine then we wouldn't be in this situation, dave would be gone. If dave doesn't get 8 wins he won't be back. I'm not saying even at 8 wins i want him back, but he won't be under 8.

Doug could've fired Dave when he arrived and he didn't. That is a Doug problem.

Any other school takes care of both of the AD and coaching hiring simultaneously. Pretending that this was Mack issue and "but for" the Mack conduct we wouldn't have Dave is a line that the admin has sold to you and others and you have bought it.

Genuinely, this is not hard and everyone wants to pretend that it is.


I am afraid it was strictly a money thing. Even if Doug wanted him gone I don't think the administration was willing to pony up the buyout.

That's why I'm not sure our program is built for this new landscape where money is more important than ever before.
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Agreed
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Baylorbears111 said:

Bearsalwayswin said:

dude i'm not saying dave shouldn't have been fired. He should have, but saying that last season had nothing to do with the AD getting fired is just not true. if mack had been fine then we wouldn't be in this situation, dave would be gone. If dave doesn't get 8 wins he won't be back. I'm not saying even at 8 wins i want him back, but he won't be under 8.

Doug could've fired Dave when he arrived and he didn't. That is a Doug problem.

Any other school takes care of both of the AD and coaching hiring simultaneously. Pretending that this was Mack issue and "but for" the Mack conduct we wouldn't have Dave is a line that the admin has sold to you and others and you have bought it.

Genuinely, this is not hard and everyone wants to pretend that it is.

Agreed. The Mack thing is a smoke screen. If we had really wanted to fire Aranda and had the money to do so and replace him, we could have, regardless of what went on with Mack.
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Baylorbears111 said:

Bearsalwayswin said:

dude i'm not saying dave shouldn't have been fired. He should have, but saying that last season had nothing to do with the AD getting fired is just not true. if mack had been fine then we wouldn't be in this situation, dave would be gone. If dave doesn't get 8 wins he won't be back. I'm not saying even at 8 wins i want him back, but he won't be under 8.

Doug could've fired Dave when he arrived and he didn't. That is a Doug problem.

Any other school takes care of both of the AD and coaching hiring simultaneously. Pretending that this was Mack issue and "but for" the Mack conduct we wouldn't have Dave is a line that the admin has sold to you and others and you have bought it.

Genuinely, this is not hard and everyone wants to pretend that it is.

It's only hard when mediocrity is the standard. By the way, how much will the tarp(s) cost?
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boognish_bear said:

Baylorbears111 said:

Bearsalwayswin said:

dude i'm not saying dave shouldn't have been fired. He should have, but saying that last season had nothing to do with the AD getting fired is just not true. if mack had been fine then we wouldn't be in this situation, dave would be gone. If dave doesn't get 8 wins he won't be back. I'm not saying even at 8 wins i want him back, but he won't be under 8.

Doug could've fired Dave when he arrived and he didn't. That is a Doug problem.

Any other school takes care of both of the AD and coaching hiring simultaneously. Pretending that this was Mack issue and "but for" the Mack conduct we wouldn't have Dave is a line that the admin has sold to you and others and you have bought it.

Genuinely, this is not hard and everyone wants to pretend that it is.


I am afraid it was strictly a money thing. Even if Doug wanted him gone I don't think the administration was willing to pony up the buyout.

That's why I'm not sure our program is built for this new landscape where money is more important than ever before.


I can tell you the decision to bring Dave back was made before Doug was hired. It was not his decision
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What AD isn't in charge of hiring and firing coaches?

This is so ridiculous. The obvious answer is we are poor. That's the only thing that makes this all make sense.
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TheBearableVariabl3 said:

What AD isn't in charge of hiring and firing coaches?

This is so ridiculous. The obvious answer is we are poor. That's the only thing that makes this all make sense.


That's a big part of it. A school with serious resources likely fires Dave after the Air Force game in 2023.
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I disagree with this.
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Bearsalwayswin said:

I disagree with this.

I disagree that the Bears always win.
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Bearsalwayswin said:

I disagree with this.


Seeing Baylor roll out on our rivals field looking like they couldn't have cared less about playing football was an absolute embarrassment. They were outplayed, outcoached, and ultimately beaten by an undersized, less talented team that simply came in better prepared, better coached, and far more motivated. That performance was a disgrace and a prime example of why simply making it to a bowl game shouldn't be used as this prestigious feather in the hat for a program that people try to make it.

Nah, a real football school would've fired him on the field. Instead, our leadership made lame excuses about how cold it was. Again, not something a real football school with standards does
 
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