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In reply to Youre a clown • 11:01p, 8/12/26
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Danielsjackson114 said:
Good on you.

DO NOT support this bs.... I don't

Get this bald headed loser out of Waco already!

I agree. He is not a Baylor fan. Real fans do not give up on their team.


Unconditional fandom in modern college sports is like falling in love with a stripper. Sorry, it's just the truth


Season hasn't even kicked off yet but you, my friend, are the clubhouse leader for best post.
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In reply to RD2WINAGNBEAR86 • 12:47a, 8/13/26
RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
Delmar 2.0 said:
What year did you become a Baylor football fan?

1979. Gave up my 4 season tickets and financial contributions in 2017 after 21 years after Matt Rhule's dive against the Mighty Liberty Flames. At our house. McLane was a winning atmosphere that our "leadership" suddenly turned into a kitty litter box. If I win the $1 Billion Powerball this week, I will love to tell the world why I only donated my alma mater ten bucks.

God Bless Jay Allison. He is a former player that fought tooth and nail to save Baylor Football.

I am sorry, Baylor. I didn't win the Powerball. You won't be getting your ten bucks. I am thinking about dedicating a small bird bath to Ron Murff, Jeff Reeter, and Jay Jeffrey. I am thinking it will bring the pigeons on campus great joy, while celebrating the contributions of these former players to Baylor Football.
Call it a tax, the people are outraged! Call it a tariff, the people get out their checkbooks and wave their American flags!!!
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In reply to Delmar 2.0 • 5:44a, 8/13/26
Delmar 2.0 said:
What year did you become a Baylor football fan?


When I was in high school when Teaff was the coach.

I followed the team through the down decades when you were lucky to see a 1.5x1.5 inch box score in the back of the sports section.

After that, watching CAB's teams was nothing short of miraculous. The controlled demolition of CAB's program was the end of that road for me. Ended my financial support for it and the school, and don't follow the team like I used to.

When Linda and Aranda are gone, I'll reconsider.
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In reply to chorne68 • 5:46a, 8/13/26
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Baylor will never be a winning team if fans do not support them. Who would sign with Baylor out of high school or the transfer portal if half the stadium was empty every game. I want a winning team and am going to do my best to be there and loud. I sure hope that this year is the year we start turning it around. I hope Baylor fans are Baylor fans and do the same.


They'll sign to play in front of an empty stadium if the paycheck has enough zeros on it, that's the new reality.
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In reply to BellCountyBear • 7:47a, 8/13/26
It really is that simple
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In reply to Delmar 2.0 • 7:54a, 8/13/26
Thank you for your judgement of my "right" to be a Baylor fan, Dad.
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In reply to SicEm20202022 • 7:55a, 8/13/26
It is okay to be sick of Dave Aranda football. I would say you are in the majority.

I aint driving 2 hours to watch a Sweet Davey soft azz team
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In reply to Chamberman • 8:02a, 8/13/26
Chamberman said:
This is the least enthused I've felt about Baylor football in 45 years.

Put me down for nearly 71 years. Nov. 5, 1955 (game in Austin).
All I remember is the bear on the sidelines.
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In reply to SicEm20202022 • 8:36a, 8/13/26
SicEm20202022 said:
Thank you for your judgement of my "right" to be a Baylor fan, Dad.

If that's what you take from this, I'm sorry I can't help you. I honestly don't give a damn if you bail or not, but like I said you're either a fan or you're not. Simple.
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In reply to Delmar 2.0 • 8:41a, 8/13/26
Delmar 2.0 said:
SicEm20202022 said:
2016 when my children started going to BU. Attended every home game regardless of winning or losing season. Aranda is probably a great guy….but just not head coach material. This year we're considering a few select home games but it'll be a bit before we do season tickets again.

So you made it thru the 1 win season in 2017 without giving up and the bad Covid shortened season with 2 wins and even the hugely disappointing 3 win season in 2023, but you're throwing in the towel after a 5 win season last year? I guess you haven't been a Baylor fan long enough to know that BU football is like a roller coaster, up & down, never knowing what's coming next. CDA is following that trend...Up with 12 wins then down with 6 & 3, then back up with 8 wins and down last year with 5. So this year BU football is due to be back up. We'll see; just seems like a strange time to bail on the team when you've lived thru much worse in your short time as a Baylor football follower.


This is a great post Delmar and I totally agree. I've just got that feeling that we're going to really exceed expectations this year! I've got faith in Spav and what he can do with DJ and I feel after last year the only way to go for the defense is up and I believe Klanderman can lead us to some good performances again!
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In reply to SicEm20202022 • 9:57a, 8/13/26
SicEm20202022 said:
Let our season tickets go this year. Last years team didn't seem to be firing on all cylinders. Any realistic reason to pay attention this year other than being a diehard BU fan? Or do we start wearing bags over our heads la Cowboys and Jimmy Johnson's first season?

Don't wear the bags yet. But don't buy the season tickets because you expect a championship run, either.
If Lagway is as good as advertised and the new defense is merely competent, 75 or 84 is realistic. If the defense remains porous and the offense doesn't take the expected jump, we're looking at another frustrating 57/66 kind of season.
And that's actually a pretty good reason to watch: this may be the year we find out whether Baylor has finally turned the corneror whether the Aranda era has simply run its course.
As for the Cowboys comparison: let's save the paper bags for December.

I have been a fan for 72 years and never gave up on the Bears
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In reply to Youre a clown • 12:11p, 8/14/26
Youre a clown said:
No one cares how long anyone here has been a Baylor fan. I love it when people try to brag about that crap like it somehow means their opinion matters more than yours.


How long one has been a fan of any sport has no relevance to anything at all. Why it was brought up, I have no clue. People know a bad football program when they see one, whether they've been fans for one month or 40 years.
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In reply to Guitarbiscuit • 12:15p, 8/14/26
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Youre a clown said:
No one cares how long anyone here has been a Baylor fan. I love it when people try to brag about that crap like it somehow means their opinion matters more than yours.


How long one has been a fan of any sport has no relevance to anything at all. Why it was brought up, I have no clue....

I explained that 2 days ago, you and the Clown need to learn how to keep up.
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In reply to Delmar 2.0 • 12:43p, 8/14/26
Delmar 2.0 said:
Guitarbiscuit said:
Youre a clown said:
No one cares how long anyone here has been a Baylor fan. I love it when people try to brag about that crap like it somehow means their opinion matters more than yours.


How long one has been a fan of any sport has no relevance to anything at all. Why it was brought up, I have no clue....

I explained that 2 days ago, you and the Clown need to learn how to keep up.


I keep up just fine. Your notion that withdrawing support for a team indicates that you are not a true fan is not one I agree with. There is a large part of the fanbase that are true fans and believes that they only way back to winning is to withdraw support. In light of the laisezz-faire administration and BOR we currrently have, I think that is a perfectly viable way of behaving. It could also be argued that supporting a program regardless of the mediocrity that is on the field is not real fandom either, since blind support for a 5-7 program may cause the powers that be to think, "Well, I guess we can sell tickets regardless of whatever we put out on the field."


Different fans have different ways of thinking. I don't believe in black/white thinking in this regard.
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In reply to Youre a clown • 1:06p, 8/14/26
Youre a clown said:
Chamberman said:
This is the least enthused I've felt about Baylor football in 45 years.


At least we've made Lagway a very rich man. $6 million to rent him for just this year based on what one poster said. It would explain why our offensive line transfers have looked so bad; Dave blew all of his cash on Lagway


Why do people take one post and run with it like it's fact and NOT DO RESEARCH!

He ain't making 6 million. A simple internet search will show several articles that put him in the 2 to 2.5 mill range.
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In reply to Guitarbiscuit • 2:22p, 8/14/26
Guitarbiscuit said:
Delmar 2.0 said:
Guitarbiscuit said:
Youre a clown said:
No one cares how long anyone here has been a Baylor fan. I love it when people try to brag about that crap like it somehow means their opinion matters more than yours.


How long one has been a fan of any sport has no relevance to anything at all. Why it was brought up, I have no clue....

I explained that 2 days ago, you and the Clown need to learn how to keep up.


I keep up just fine.....

Apparently not, you didn't know why I asked how long the OP had been a BU football fan. All that was explained 2 days ago......not exactly "keeping up just fine". Seems like we've got 2 peas in a pod....Clown & Biscuit.
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In reply to Delmar 2.0 • 2:32p, 8/14/26
Delmar 2.0 said:
Guitarbiscuit said:
Delmar 2.0 said:
Guitarbiscuit said:
Youre a clown said:
No one cares how long anyone here has been a Baylor fan. I love it when people try to brag about that crap like it somehow means their opinion matters more than yours.


How long one has been a fan of any sport has no relevance to anything at all. Why it was brought up, I have no clue....

I explained that 2 days ago, you and the Clown need to learn how to keep up.


I keep up just fine.....

Apparently not, you didn't know why I asked how long the OP had been a BU football fan. All that was explained 2 days ago......not exactly "keeping up just fine". Seems like we've got 2 peas in a pod....Clown & Biscuit.

Apparently you think everyone else cannot read. What you explained 2 days ago changes nothing. Anybody who does not think like you is deemed to be a "pea in a pod."

You've always been a difficult poster. And I don't know why. But hey, just so you know. There are people out there in this world who are not going to agree with you. I hate to break the news.
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In reply to Guitarbiscuit • 4:30p, 8/14/26
Guitarbiscuit said:
Delmar 2.0 said:
Guitarbiscuit said:
Delmar 2.0 said:
Guitarbiscuit said:
Youre a clown said:
No one cares how long anyone here has been a Baylor fan. I love it when people try to brag about that crap like it somehow means their opinion matters more than yours.


How long one has been a fan of any sport has no relevance to anything at all. Why it was brought up, I have no clue....

I explained that 2 days ago, you and the Clown need to learn how to keep up.


I keep up just fine.....

Apparently not, you didn't know why I asked how long the OP had been a BU football fan. All that was explained 2 days ago......not exactly "keeping up just fine". Seems like we've got 2 peas in a pod....Clown & Biscuit.

.....What you explained 2 days ago changes nothing.....

It changes everything. Black & white. No problem. Simple as can be.
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In reply to Guitarbiscuit • 5:01p, 8/14/26
Guitarbiscuit said:
Delmar 2.0 said:
Guitarbiscuit said:
Delmar 2.0 said:
Guitarbiscuit said:
Youre a clown said:
No one cares how long anyone here has been a Baylor fan. I love it when people try to brag about that crap like it somehow means their opinion matters more than yours.


How long one has been a fan of any sport has no relevance to anything at all. Why it was brought up, I have no clue....

I explained that 2 days ago, you and the Clown need to learn how to keep up.


I keep up just fine.....

Apparently not, you didn't know why I asked how long the OP had been a BU football fan. All that was explained 2 days ago......not exactly "keeping up just fine". Seems like we've got 2 peas in a pod....Clown & Biscuit.

Apparently you think everyone else cannot read. What you explained 2 days ago changes nothing. Anybody who does not think like you is deemed to be a "pea in a pod."

You've always been a difficult poster. And I don't know why. But hey, just so you know. There are people out there in this world who are not going to agree with you. I hate to break the news.

What it comes down to is that Delmar is just not an honest person. The only reason he would ask how long someone has been a fan is so that he could puff his chest out and poo poo their opinion about what he perceives to be a negative take, and he should've just owned up to it when I called him out. It's obvious that he views himself as some sort of Baylor superfan fighting the good fight against the negative nancys. I guess that's how he copes with the team currently being a dumpster fire, IDK
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In reply to Youre a clown • 5:40p, 8/14/26
Youre a clown said:
Guitarbiscuit said:
Delmar 2.0 said:
Guitarbiscuit said:
Delmar 2.0 said:
Guitarbiscuit said:
Youre a clown said:
No one cares how long anyone here has been a Baylor fan. I love it when people try to brag about that crap like it somehow means their opinion matters more than yours.


How long one has been a fan of any sport has no relevance to anything at all. Why it was brought up, I have no clue....

I explained that 2 days ago, you and the Clown need to learn how to keep up.


I keep up just fine.....

Apparently not, you didn't know why I asked how long the OP had been a BU football fan. All that was explained 2 days ago......not exactly "keeping up just fine". Seems like we've got 2 peas in a pod....Clown & Biscuit.

Apparently you think everyone else cannot read. What you explained 2 days ago changes nothing. Anybody who does not think like you is deemed to be a "pea in a pod."

You've always been a difficult poster. And I don't know why. But hey, just so you know. There are people out there in this world who are not going to agree with you. I hate to break the news.


What it comes down to is that Delmar is just not an honest person. The only reason he would ask how long someone has been a fan is so that he could puff his chest out and poo poo their opinion about what he perceives to be a negative take....

Show me where I did that in this thread. You've got it all figured out Clown so it shouldn't be hard to do. I gave you the reason, the absolute truth, but you can't handle that. So show me Clown. Show me where I did what you're accusing me of. Let's go Clown......show me.
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5:41p, 8/14/26
I too am more lethargic than I have ever been. Not sure if it 100% Baylor or both the team and the overall college football environment. The ridiculous mustard and pickle uniforms also make it not seem like Baylor (go ahead, make fun). I think the opener last year when we were all hyped up, brought by the gold chrome only to **** the bet in the most Baylor of Baylor ways - Aranda's defense made Jackson Arnold look like Joe Burrow ... and the kid could not even keep his job.
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5:44p, 8/14/26
It bothers me that folks judge others' fandom at all. But I can live with it - doesn't really matter (just like my own opinion doesn't really matter). It's just an opinion.

We all obviously love Baylor football or we wouldn't be wasting time on this board every day.

But me deciding not to buy Baylor season tickets this year for the first time since 2016 does not negate the fact that I've proven my "fandom" in many ways for many years: I attended every home game during my 6 years in Waco (includes grad school), covered the Teaff-led Bears for The Dallas Morning News as a campus correspondent (attended Grant's weekly media lunches at the stadium - super cool experience), had season tickets through the Reedy and Steele years (yep, drove 3 hours each way to watch every Steele-led debacle) and season tickets again starting in 2016 after I returned to Texas (lived on the west coast during the Morris and Briles years), have been a Bear Foundation Member since 1995 and was an active volunteer recruiting new members until we moved away, am a member of the B Association (wife is a letterwinner), have donated to Athletics projects outside of BBF including for the baseball stadium back when it was built in the late 90s, and have traveled to see Baylor games at WSU (Seattle), Oregon State, Colorado, Miami, Boston College, Nebraska, Cal, Notre Dame, Michigan, and every Texas school we've played at, bowl games, etc.

The point is, I'm as much as fan as any of you are. I'm also not spending the $ or emotional energy this season on a product that appears to be sub-standard again for the sixth time in seven years.

Love the Bears. Will mostly cheer from home this year. Doesn't make me less of a fan. I'm not a fan to impress my fellow fans anyway.
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In reply to Youre a clown • 6:00p, 8/14/26
Youre a clown said:
What it comes down to is that Delmar is just.....

C'mon, where's the proof? What's taking you so long? You're accusing me of something serious and I don't appreciate it very much & I certainly don't like it. If you're going to throw out wild accusations about someone you better be ready to back them up. So, let's go Clown......show me where I did what you're accusing me off. Either that or apologize to me for your stupid comment.
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10:45p, 8/14/26
Silence from the resident Clown, not surprising. Still have time to apologize, let's see if you're man enough to do it
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In reply to Youre a clown • 12:52a, 8/15/26
Youre a clown said:
Guitarbiscuit said:
Delmar 2.0 said:
Guitarbiscuit said:
Delmar 2.0 said:
Guitarbiscuit said:
Youre a clown said:
No one cares how long anyone here has been a Baylor fan. I love it when people try to brag about that crap like it somehow means their opinion matters more than yours.


How long one has been a fan of any sport has no relevance to anything at all. Why it was brought up, I have no clue....

I explained that 2 days ago, you and the Clown need to learn how to keep up.


I keep up just fine.....

Apparently not, you didn't know why I asked how long the OP had been a BU football fan. All that was explained 2 days ago......not exactly "keeping up just fine". Seems like we've got 2 peas in a pod....Clown & Biscuit.

Apparently you think everyone else cannot read. What you explained 2 days ago changes nothing. Anybody who does not think like you is deemed to be a "pea in a pod."

You've always been a difficult poster. And I don't know why. But hey, just so you know. There are people out there in this world who are not going to agree with you. I hate to break the news.


What it comes down to is that Delmar is just not an honest person. The only reason he would ask how long someone has been a fan is so that he could puff his chest out and poo poo their opinion about what he perceives to be a negative take, and he should've just owned up to it when I called him out. It's obvious that he views himself as some sort of Baylor superfan fighting the good fight against the negative nancys. I guess that's how he copes with the team currently being a dumpster fire, IDK

You're probably right. Dude seems to always be coming after somebody. Like maybe his wife or girlfriend beats him over the head with a shovel and he comes on this board to take it out on us.
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In reply to GoldBoy232 • 12:54a, 8/15/26
GoldBoy232 said:
It bothers me that folks judge others' fandom at all. But I can live with it - doesn't really matter (just like my own opinion doesn't really matter). It's just an opinion.

We all obviously love Baylor football or we wouldn't be wasting time on this board every day.

But me deciding not to buy Baylor season tickets this year for the first time since 2016 does not negate the fact that I've proven my "fandom" in many ways for many years: I attended every home game during my 6 years in Waco (includes grad school), covered the Teaff-led Bears for The Dallas Morning News as a campus correspondent (attended Grant's weekly media lunches at the stadium - super cool experience), had season tickets through the Reedy and Steele years (yep, drove 3 hours each way to watch every Steele-led debacle) and season tickets again starting in 2016 after I returned to Texas (lived on the west coast during the Morris and Briles years), have been a Bear Foundation Member since 1995 and was an active volunteer recruiting new members until we moved away, am a member of the B Association (wife is a letterwinner), have donated to Athletics projects outside of BBF including for the baseball stadium back when it was built in the late 90s, and have traveled to see Baylor games at WSU (Seattle), Oregon State, Colorado, Miami, Boston College, Nebraska, Cal, Notre Dame, Michigan, and every Texas school we've played at, bowl games, etc.

The point is, I'm as much as fan as any of you are. I'm also not spending the $ or emotional energy this season on a product that appears to be sub-standard again for the sixth time in seven years.

Love the Bears. Will mostly cheer from home this year. Doesn't make me less of a fan. I'm not a fan to impress my fellow fans anyway.


Well said.
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11:02a, 8/15/26
My ambivalence has to do with the state of college athletics.

It's hard to follow a team when they completely overhaul the roster every year.

Once you could follow a player's development and progress over several seasons.

No more. It's rent-a-team now.

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In reply to GoldBoy232 • 1:17p, 8/15/26
GoldBoy232 said:
The point is, I'm as much as fan as any of you are. I'm also not spending the $ or emotional energy this season on a product that appears to be sub-standard again for the sixth time in seven years.

Love the Bears. Will mostly cheer from home this year. Doesn't make me less of a fan. I'm not a fan to impress my fellow fans anyway.

The bottom line is that people in the aggregate are going to do what makes sense for them. We can't guilt people into spending time and money, at least not very effectively.

I'm in a similar spot. Been a Baylor fan for almost 50 years, through all the stuff. Spent God knows how much time and money on it. Been a BBF member since the year I got out of school. Have at times given small amounts, at times even given Championship Club level. Have also traveled to many, many games. I'm still in BBF and with season tix for football and mbb, but at a much lower level, and frankly that's only because I currently live in Waco. If I move (likely pretty soon), then I'll probably drop it altogether unless something major happens. For me, it's not so much the money as it is the time investment.

The reasons are various, but include (i) Baylor showed us with the Briles fiasco and other events that Baylor leadership is an undependable (to put it nicely) fiduciary of athletics (this is relevant to how much time and money you want to spend there); (ii) many of my friends who used to buy season tix with us and come to games have quit, for similar reasons as expressed on this thread, which just makes it less fun; (iii) the current state of college athletics with itinerant players makes it less interesting.

If Baylor wants people to buy in, they're going to have to give us reasons to do so. They have before, they might again, but right now frankly it's just not that much fun.
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