Space Cutter said:

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Probably need to cancel the season until it's cool enough for a bunch of kids can stand it. Of course those players wearing all those pads are ok. Also I see the heat has caused zero empty seats in College Station. But at least the Aggies are being blown out at home.

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Witnessing infinite years of Baylor fandom.

AC/DC said:

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Space Cutter said:

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Probably need to cancel the season until it's cool enough for a bunch of kids can stand it. Of course those players wearing all those pads are ok. Also I see the heat has caused zero empty seats in College Station. But at least the Aggies are being blown out at home.

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Witnessing infinite years of Baylor fandom.

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Bringing a tear to my eye, save yourself BEGONE!!!

Robert Wilson said:

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How many of y'all were there?

Because I was, and I have no idea how anybody could sit out there in full sun. It was hot as hell.

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Having every game televised is a blessing for those of us who live too far to make it to every game.

Having every game televised is often a curse for the rest of the fans.

Thank you for being there. Hope you and yours enjoyed the win.

fubar said:

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Robert Wilson said:

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How many of y'all were there?

Because I was, and I have no idea how anybody could sit out there in full sun. It was hot as hell.

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Having every game televised is a blessing for those of us who live too far to make it to every game.

Having every game televised is often a curse for the rest of the fans.

Thank you for being there. Hope you and yours enjoyed the win.

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Thanks, we did. We're on the alumni side, but I walked in on the student side, and I can confirm the concourse was absolutely full of people, because only a crazy person would be sitting out in that full sun on the bleachers in over 100 heat for very long. Would be very hard to say how many people were at the game because so many of them were hiding in the concourses.

Times have just changed. It was as hot at Floyd Casey, and more students fought through it. But these are kids who cannot practice sports outside because it's too hot. Some of these girls too are dressed up like they're going out cs dressing for a game LOL. That being said we should avoid afternoon games until it cools.

I don't plan on attending another game until they put up a statue of Art Briles.

Harrison Bergeron said:

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Times have just changed. It was as hot at Floyd Casey, and more students fought through it. But these are kids who cannot practice sports outside because it's too hot. Some of these girls too are dressed up like they're going out cs dressing for a game LOL. That being said we should avoid afternoon games until it cools.

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The season starts a little earlier than it did back in the day, and the schedules are now much more TV driven (I had to listen to lots of games on the radio back in the 80s), which has us playing mid afternoon games when it's over 100. And maybe I'm just getting old, but I'm still active, I work out outside almost every day all summer, already knocked down a few dove hunts in over 100, I'm pretty well heated adapted. But sitting in that stadium on those bleachers in the sun when it's over 100 is rough.

I mean, I'm not opposed to inviting somebody from the north or upper Midwest to come down here and place us in 100 heat just for the advantage we would get out of it early in the year. I'm pretty sure we beat Iowa State in Waco a few years ago solely because their offensive line and defensive line melted in the second half. But there's absolutely no reason for us to play Prairie view A&M or Louisiana Tech in that kind of heat. There's no upside. And the game is not good enough to justify it. Set that for evening kickoff.

We were so lucky in the late 70's and early 80's to get 7pm kickoffs.

Then college football exchanged fan experience for TV money.

Space Cutter said:

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It's the first quarter of a Baylor game and the Baylor Line can't fill that lower section. It's time to shrink their space and if these freshman are too busy to stay for 4 quarters then move them up to the 3td level. Sell those premium seats for big bucks.

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Were you there and sitting on that side yesterday? It was so hot I wanted to leave after the first quarter. The fact that anyone remained was a testament to their Baylor pride and loyalty. At the end of the game, they were literally spraying the students down. I would have loved someone to be spraying on the second level. The students are loud and proud; you just had to be smart and leave before you passed out. There were many people on that side that left early because it literally was a health hazard it was so hot.

Jacques Strap said:

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We were so lucky in the late 70's and early 80's to get 7pm kickoffs.

Then college football exchanged fan experience for TV money.

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BU's rule of thumb "back in the day" (late 60s-mid 70s) was night home games September and October, day games November and December, unless we happened to be on TV. The only September day games I can remember from back then were Syracuse in 1966 (national TV; I was too young to attend) and Houston in 1976 (regional ABC TV).

In 1977 and 1978, BU played all home games during the day. The word was it was to save on energy costs of running the stadium lights. We opened the 1977 at home against Tech (don't remember if it was televised or not), and it was 103 at kickoff. I don't recall any of the other 1977 games being that brutal, even the next week when we beat Kentucky in Waco. We only had 4 home games in 1978, and the first one wasn't until we played UH in early October. Finally we went back to September night games in 1979 against Lamar and A&M, but Tech in late September was a day game.

My 4 years at BU were 1980-83, and most early games were at night. First day game in 1980 was HC vs. Arkansas in November (11am kick for ABC); in 1981 it was A&M in mid-October. The 1982 UH game was 11am TV, and I found a party pic from after that game with my then GF and her parents and all of us were red-faced and sunburned. By 1983, the Tech game in late September was daytime for TV, but the Aggy game 3 weeks later was at night, also for TV.

By 1984, the NCAA had lost its Supreme Court case over broadcast rights, and Raycom started televising SWC games that weren't picked up by ABC, so games could be at all hours.

In the latest rankings you will not find us but you can find the following:

Western Michigan
Tulsa
Pittsburgh
James Madison
North Dakota State

Cannot blame anyone for refusing to sit in 95-degree heat facing the sun to watch an uninspiring team. I doubt a lot of those freshmen chose Baylor over football.

whitetrash said:

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Jacques Strap said:

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We were so lucky in the late 70's and early 80's to get 7pm kickoffs.

Then college football exchanged fan experience for TV money.

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BU's rule of thumb "back in the day" (late 60s-mid 70s) was night home games September and October, day games November and December, unless we happened to be on TV. The only September day games I can remember from back then were Syracuse in 1966 (national TV; I was too young to attend) and Houston in 1976 (regional ABC TV).

In 1977 and 1978, BU played all home games during the day. The word was it was to save on energy costs of running the stadium lights. We opened the 1977 at home against Tech (don't remember if it was televised or not), and it was 103 at kickoff. I don't recall any of the other 1977 games being that brutal, even the next week when we beat Kentucky in Waco. We only had 4 home games in 1978, and the first one wasn't until we played UH in early October. Finally we went back to September night games in 1979 against Lamar and A&M, but Tech in late September was a day game.

My 4 years at BU were 1980-83, and most early games were at night. First day game in 1980 was HC vs. Arkansas in November (11am kick for ABC); in 1981 it was A&M in mid-October. The 1982 UH game was 11am TV, and I found a party pic from after that game with my then GF and her parents and all of us were red-faced and sunburned. By 1983, the Tech game in late September was daytime for TV, but the Aggy game 3 weeks later was at night, also for TV.

By 1984, the NCAA had lost its Supreme Court case over broadcast rights, and Raycom started televising SWC games that weren't picked up by ABC, so games could be at all hours.

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I was 78 to 81(graduating in 82). Apologize for the shady memory but I remember some 7 pm (or nighttime maybe 6pm) kickoffs while I was in school.

It was 8 pm games in 1950-60ish. Humble Radio network with Kern Kips. Usually about 2 1:2 hour games. ESPN changed everything in 1980.

Jacques Strap said:

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whitetrash said:

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Jacques Strap said:

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We were so lucky in the late 70's and early 80's to get 7pm kickoffs.

Then college football exchanged fan experience for TV money.

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BU's rule of thumb "back in the day" (late 60s-mid 70s) was night home games September and October, day games November and December, unless we happened to be on TV. The only September day games I can remember from back then were Syracuse in 1966 (national TV; I was too young to attend) and Houston in 1976 (regional ABC TV).

In 1977 and 1978, BU played all home games during the day. The word was it was to save on energy costs of running the stadium lights. We opened the 1977 at home against Tech (don't remember if it was televised or not), and it was 103 at kickoff. I don't recall any of the other 1977 games being that brutal, even the next week when we beat Kentucky in Waco. We only had 4 home games in 1978, and the first one wasn't until we played UH in early October. Finally we went back to September night games in 1979 against Lamar and A&M, but Tech in late September was a day game.

My 4 years at BU were 1980-83, and most early games were at night. First day game in 1980 was HC vs. Arkansas in November (11am kick for ABC); in 1981 it was A&M in mid-October. The 1982 UH game was 11am TV, and I found a party pic from after that game with my then GF and her parents and all of us were red-faced and sunburned. By 1983, the Tech game in late September was daytime for TV, but the Aggy game 3 weeks later was at night, also for TV.

By 1984, the NCAA had lost its Supreme Court case over broadcast rights, and Raycom started televising SWC games that weren't picked up by ABC, so games could be at all hours.

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I was 78 to 81(graduating in 82). Apologize for the shady memory but I remember some 7 pm (or nighttime maybe 6pm) kickoffs while I was in school.

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Night games I recall from 78 to 85:

78: none
79: Lamar, A&M (Sept)
80: W Tex St (Sept), UH, SMU (Oct)
81: Lamar, Bowling Green, Tech (Sept)
82: N Texas (Sept), SMU (Oct)
83: BYU (Sept), A&M (Oct)
84: UH (Oct)
85: Wyoming (Sept), A&M (Oct)

Robert Wilson said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Times have just changed. It was as hot at Floyd Casey, and more students fought through it. But these are kids who cannot practice sports outside because it's too hot. Some of these girls too are dressed up like they're going out cs dressing for a game LOL. That being said we should avoid afternoon games until it cools.

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The season starts a little earlier than it did back in the day, and the schedules are now much more TV driven (I had to listen to lots of games on the radio back in the 80s), which has us playing mid afternoon games when it's over 100. And maybe I'm just getting old, but I'm still active, I work out outside almost every day all summer, already knocked down a few dove hunts in over 100, I'm pretty well heated adapted. But sitting in that stadium on those bleachers in the sun when it's over 100 is rough.

I mean, I'm not opposed to inviting somebody from the north or upper Midwest to come down here and place us in 100 heat just for the advantage we would get out of it early in the year. I'm pretty sure we beat Iowa State in Waco a few years ago solely because their offensive line and defensive line melted in the second half. But there's absolutely no reason for us to play Prairie view A&M or Louisiana Tech in that kind of heat. There's no upside. And the game is not good enough to justify it. Set that for evening kickoff.

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Respectfully, I believe we normally have our first game in August - so not sure the seasons is starting earlier vs. the last 20 years. However, it would make more sense to have evening games through September. While I agree it was miserable - I stayed just inside the shade yesterday - we sat out at Floyd Casey with zero shade on the student side and it was at least 50% full when we were bad.

Speaking of Prairie View ... do you remember the Texas Southern game from several years ago? It was I believe the first game of the season or first home game ... we put the opposing bands in the hottest section, and that TSU band was wearing their full dress uniforms, their twirlers were in their dress uniforms with thick pantyhose, and they played the entire game, marched at halftime, and never stopped.