After this season, Matt Rhule will have been responsible for all three of Nebraska's winning seasons and bowl appearances in the last 10 years.cowboycwr said:bear2be2 said:cowboycwr said:Chuckroast said:bear2be2 said:Chuckroast said:
It wasn't like Addazio was a bad coach at Temple. He went 9-4 and won a bowl game his first year. He went 4-7 his 2nd year which was in the tougher Big East conference which is a foreseeable outcome in their first year in a new tougher conference. Then he left, and Rhule did even worse the next year and only won 2 games in his first year before getting them to 10 wins in years 3 and 4. That was a great accomplishment but does not mean that Addazio was a bad coach either.
Addazio coached three programs over a decade-long span and retired with a losing record. He was a bad coach. Worse than Dave Aranda, in fact.
People act like Temple's turnaround under Golden (which Addazio benefited from in Year 1) happened in a vacuum. It didn't. Their "turnaround" was a product of going from playing independent schedules to joining the MAC for a handful of years. Without that move, they likely would have continued to suck. They started winning games because they moved to the weakest G5 conference at the time ... and still only had one year with fewer than three conferences losses during their short tenure in the MAC.
Context matters. Before Rhule, Temple's only success in decades came during the few years they competed in the MAC.
I was evaluating Addazio solely by his tenure at Temple. Addazio was better at Temple in his first year in the Big East than Rhule. He just didn't stick around. Who knows what he might have accomplished had he stayed. I know that's speculation, but you're moving the goalposts by talking about his other coaching stops. He did just fine at Temple and didn't bring the program down. If you want to talk about other coaching stops, how about Rhule in the NFL?
No we can't talk about the NFL years because that tarnishes the record/prestige of all mighty Rhule.
Just like we have to add an asterisk to his lose against Liberty because it was his first game, blah blah blah.
In the minds of the Rhule lovers he is the only reason Temple won. Any other success they had is dismissed with things not on the record books. Any failures they had are not his fault.
Same for his time at Baylor or at Nebraska. Ignore the fact that he is barely above .500 and even by the end of the year will not improve much, and could go down depending on how many games they lose down the stretch.
He is the greatest coach ever and we must worship him for his time at Baylor ignoring all the records and facts that are out there proving otherwise.
No one has ever argued that Rhule is the greatest coach ever. The argument is that he's really good at building college football programs, particularly those in need of some foundation work.
He may never win another championship again. He has a lot to prove where winning high-profile games is concerned. But he's proven at three different stops now that his process for getting a struggling program to a respectable, competitive level works pretty much every time and in every environment he's employed it.
If I was in need of a program rebuild, he would be near the top of my list of all current college football coaches.
He has proven no such thing at Nebraska.
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That is not proving anything other than average years.
We will see how this year finishes out. After than we will see how long he stays/is kept around and if he continues to be the rebuild guy you claim. If he gets fired he will NOT get another P4 job.
Argue all you want about his ceiling/ability to win big games. It is indisputable that the Nebraska program has improved (and by a fairly substantial margin) under his watch.
