historian said:

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Or we could just use his real name…

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Ditto

DAC said:

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#The Klan

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I love it! We could show our commitment to Christ by illuminating the cross.

historian said:

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Or we could just use his real name…

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That's silly!

Would we have Prince, Michael Jackson, Madonna if they used their real names?

Dude has a tricky name. There's no "nickname" to be used.

Go listen to his press conference from earlier today that the staff linked.

That guy sounds like a football coach to me. If that's who BU hires I won't be disappointed.

If BU goes in another direction then I'll support the new guy whoever he may be.

We need proven results, over a period of years. Not a flash in the pan.

People see something shiny (2-0) and that's what you want.

The lowest risk hires are the guys who have successfully built programs at multiple stops and or levels. The next lowest risk are guys who have built up one program with sustained success.

The higher risks are coaches who have produced 1-2 good years as a HC (small sample size).

The highest risks are guys who have never been a HC at any level. Aranda was that and Klanderman is that, too. And no I'm not counting his interim games as the needed experience because the sample size is incredibly small.

montypython said:

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The highest risks are guys who have never been a HC at any level. Aranda was that and Klanderman is that, too. And no I'm not counting his interim games as the needed experience because the sample size is incredibly small.

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Will you at least agree to this:

Small sample size or not, doing the job he would be hired for and finishing somewhere between 2-3 and 5-0 in that role while fielding a prepared, competitive team automatically puts him ahead of all other coaches who aren't consistently successful P4/G6 head coaches already and right in the middle of the discussion?

He already has Lagway playing better, and it isn't like you can point to Lagway as a Tom Brady style generational talent that elevates the ceiling for the coaching staff.

DAC said:

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Big guy said:

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Klan-man helped make all green/gold happy today.

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#Klansmen let's go

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Did you get your robes cleaned and have all your crosses ready to burn this weekend?

No on Klanderman.

I don't have the patience for a 2nd internship.

jikespingleton said:

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No on Klanderman.

I don't have the patience for a 2nd internship.

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I understand how Aranda has burned you, but Dave was so stupid, thick headed and slow, he learned nothing about being a HC during his previous 20 plus years of coaching while obviously, Kland has been coaching for 20 plus years actually observing and learning how to be s HC when he got his chance.
We'll see.

Timbear said:

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jikespingleton said:

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No on Klanderman.

I don't have the patience for a 2nd internship.

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I understand how Aranda has burned you, but Dave was so stupid, thick headed and slow, he learned nothing about being a HC during his previous 20 plus years of coaching while obviously, Kland has been coaching for 20 plus years actually observing and learning how to be s HC when he got his chance.
We'll see.

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I think people are so happy that Aranda is gone that they don't see the potential hiring of Klanderman as the disaster it would be.

He's never led a program as a HC at any level. Let him get his experience in the FCS or at a G5. Not here.

jikespingleton said:

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Timbear said:

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jikespingleton said:

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No on Klanderman.

I don't have the patience for a 2nd internship.

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I understand how Aranda has burned you, but Dave was so stupid, thick headed and slow, he learned nothing about being a HC during his previous 20 plus years of coaching while obviously, Kland has been coaching for 20 plus years actually observing and learning how to be s HC when he got his chance.
We'll see.

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I think people are so happy that Aranda is gone that they don't see the potential hiring of Klanderman as the disaster it would be.

He's never led a program as a HC at any level. Let him get his experience in the FCS or at a G5. Not here.

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Generally speaking we should try to hire a proven coach. But if Klandyman does an amazing job and wins out or near wins out, I think, a conversation on bringing him back has to happen. For it to make sense, our other candidates must have obstacles AND any contract with Klandyman must be extremely favorable for BU.

If Klandy can go on the road and beat this BYU team I really dont need to see much more. If he loses a close one and bounces back to beat Tech then I think he is our guy.

Timbear said:

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jikespingleton said:

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No on Klanderman.

I don't have the patience for a 2nd internship.

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I understand how Aranda has burned you, but Dave was so stupid, thick headed and slow, he learned nothing about being a HC during his previous 20 plus years of coaching while obviously, Kland has been coaching for 20 plus years actually observing and learning how to be s HC when he got his chance.
We'll see.

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... and many of us are stuck with rolls of rice paper (grassahoppa), stacks of ochre robes (needing dry cleaning (or the trash bin(maybe goodwill))), mp3s of kinda kooky background monk music and that now once cool now just very irritating incense.

- el UF

{ rings Tibetan bowl }

{ sipping coffee }

Go Bears!!

Beat the Fightin' Joes!!!

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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jikespingleton said:

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Timbear said:

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jikespingleton said:

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No on Klanderman.

I don't have the patience for a 2nd internship.

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I understand how Aranda has burned you, but Dave was so stupid, thick headed and slow, he learned nothing about being a HC during his previous 20 plus years of coaching while obviously, Kland has been coaching for 20 plus years actually observing and learning how to be s HC when he got his chance.
We'll see.

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I think people are so happy that Aranda is gone that they don't see the potential hiring of Klanderman as the disaster it would be.

He's never led a program as a HC at any level. Let him get his experience in the FCS or at a G5. Not here.

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Generally speaking we should try to hire a proven coach. But if Klandyman does an amazing job and wins out or near wins out, I think, a conversation on bringing him back has to happen. For it to make sense, our other candidates must have obstacles AND any contract with Klandyman must be extremely favorable for BU.

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Those are some good points. It will come down to other available candidates and maybe a favorable contract.

If we do hire him, I look at that as one of 3 things.
1. Taking too long to target and go after a better candidate
2. Incompetence of our AD, which can be related to #1
3. A financial constraint.

jikespingleton said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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jikespingleton said:

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Timbear said:

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jikespingleton said:

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No on Klanderman.

I don't have the patience for a 2nd internship.

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I understand how Aranda has burned you, but Dave was so stupid, thick headed and slow, he learned nothing about being a HC during his previous 20 plus years of coaching while obviously, Kland has been coaching for 20 plus years actually observing and learning how to be s HC when he got his chance.
We'll see.

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I think people are so happy that Aranda is gone that they don't see the potential hiring of Klanderman as the disaster it would be.

He's never led a program as a HC at any level. Let him get his experience in the FCS or at a G5. Not here.

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Generally speaking we should try to hire a proven coach. But if Klandyman does an amazing job and wins out or near wins out, I think, a conversation on bringing him back has to happen. For it to make sense, our other candidates must have obstacles AND any contract with Klandyman must be extremely favorable for BU.

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Those are some good points. It will come down to other available candidates and maybe a favorable contract.

If we do hire him, I look at that as one of 3 things.
1. Taking too long to target and go after a better candidate
2. Incompetence of our AD, which can be related to #1
3. A financial constraint.

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You or others may not want to hear this, but top of the list is "Baylor fit". Has to be someone that can represent BU. Doesn't have to be pastor like obviously, but someone that fits character wise.