BangorBear said:
Rome wasn't built in a day! It's his first season there, let's see how he's doing by his third season! He's the best football coach I've seen at Baylor. I started backing Baylor in '74 so from Teaff on I have seen all of them! Hands down he is the best, isn't it time for you to grow up?
cowach said:
I feel compelled to write when these "Art" threads come up.
Art was a "Texas treasure" in that he had a brilliant and innovative offensive mind. He also was the absolute best at "freeing up" his players in the moment.
Art is guilty of bringing in too many thugs in order to get ahead.
Baylor was guilty also. Baylor was "inept" at Title IX. In fact, there was no Title IX department. That's not Art's fault. Once that fact became a news story, the school protected itself by steering the blame to Art.
Had Baylor been a state school, had strong compliance and Title IX, Art would still be the coach. It's possible that some of the wrongdoings might not have occurred. Unfortunately, Art Briles was the scapegoat.
Art is a good man and it's time to wish him the best and hope he has a great coaching life...what's left of it.
Thee University said:cowach said:
I feel compelled to write when these "Art" threads come up.
Art was a "Texas treasure" in that he had a brilliant and innovative offensive mind. He also was the absolute best at "freeing up" his players in the moment.
Art is guilty of bringing in too many thugs in order to get ahead.
Baylor was guilty also. Baylor was "inept" at Title IX. In fact, there was no Title IX department. That's not Art's fault. Once that fact became a news story, the school protected itself by steering the blame to Art.
Had Baylor been a state school, had strong compliance and Title IX, Art would still be the coach. It's possible that some of the wrongdoings might not have occurred. Unfortunately, Art Briles was the scapegoat.
Art is a good man and it's time to wish him the best and hope he has a great coaching life...what's left of it.
If he had a brilliant and innovative offensive mind we would not have lost to TCU and a horrible UT team in 2015.
Madden experts try to hang their hat on the Citrus Bowl "innovation" when the light bulb finally came on. No, instead our pretend QB was throwing downfield in a monsoon with a WR at QB because we started the season with too few QBs, allowed the thin QB roster to lower their head and try to run over a Big 12 defense. Then, playing the worst UT football team in modern history (5-7 team) we keep winging the ball downfield until it was too late.
I don't particularly blame Art. Had AD McCaw and President Starr reeled Art in each year and reviewed Baylor standards that pertain even to athletes with him, we would not have gotten into the sewer Art led us into. Art's poor management skills tarred and feathered us. He never was going to stay at Baylor so he did not care what he left behind.
All of the robe touchers need to realize that BU was only a rung on the ladder.
ImABearToo said:
I think Thee secretly has a crush on Art and the rejection is more than he can stand.
BangorBear said:
Talk about your own coaches shortcomings Thee, and the roller coaster ride he put us through as fans! It was under Coach Briles that we beat the number 1 ranked team in the country and ended their heisman talk for K st Qb and thanks to stout defense ! I was at the first blackout game at Floyd Casey sitting on the visitors side near many Okie's they were shocked how good the DEFENSE was I told them it started last year with the beat down of K st. They were quiet the rest of the game! The defense was playing well and was only playing better as time went on. Then Art was scapegoated and rest is history.
AC/DC said:ImABearToo said:
I think Thee secretly has a crush on Art and the rejection is more than he can stand.
Well Briles definitely lives in his head. I can't see how that could be denied.
Thee is getting old, I did not stutter I said Baylor defeated the number 1 ranked Kansas St. team by the score 52 to 24 and ended their Qb's Heisman Campaign !!! With dominating DEFENSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can you hear me now? theeThee University said:BangorBear said:
Talk about your own coaches shortcomings Thee, and the roller coaster ride he put us through as fans! It was under Coach Briles that we beat the number 1 ranked team in the country and ended their heisman talk for K st Qb and thanks to stout defense ! I was at the first blackout game at Floyd Casey sitting on the visitors side near many Okie's they were shocked how good the DEFENSE was I told them it started last year with the beat down of K st. They were quiet the rest of the game! The defense was playing well and was only playing better as time went on. Then Art was scapegoated and rest is history.
Are you referring to the 2012 season when we beat #2 K State?
Baylor was 4-5 going into that game. We got to 5-5 with that win.
That was the season we gave up 807 yards to West Virginia. A 7-6 WV team. Loss #1.
We followed that with yielding 509 yards losing to TCU. Loss #2 to a 7-6 TCU team.
Then giving up 525 to Texas. Loss #3.
Then giving up 557 while losing to Iowa State. Loss # 4. They were a 6-7 team and rolled us for 557 yards.
We gave up 460 to OU. Loss #5.
We gave up in excess of 400 yards 10 friggin times!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Defense?
Are you from Lithuania and never saw a football game before then?
Scapegoated? Art made his nest and enforced next to ZERO discipline so he had to roll around in it.
BangorBear said:Thee University said:BangorBear said:
Talk about your own coaches shortcomings Thee, and the roller coaster ride he put us through as fans! It was under Coach Briles that we beat the number 1 ranked team in the country and ended their heisman talk for K st Qb and thanks to stout defense ! I was at the first blackout game at Floyd Casey sitting on the visitors side near many Okie's they were shocked how good the DEFENSE was I told them it started last year with the beat down of K st. They were quiet the rest of the game! The defense was playing well and was only playing better as time went on. Then Art was scapegoated and rest is history.
Are you referring to the 2012 season when we beat #2 K State?
Baylor was 4-5 going into that game. We got to 5-5 with that win.
That was the season we gave up 807 yards to West Virginia. A 7-6 WV team. Loss #1.
We followed that with yielding 509 yards losing to TCU. Loss #2 to a 7-6 TCU team.
Then giving up 525 to Texas. Loss #3.
Then giving up 557 while losing to Iowa State. Loss # 4. They were a 6-7 team and rolled us for 557 yards.
We gave up 460 to OU. Loss #5.
We gave up in excess of 400 yards 10 friggin times!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Defense?
Are you from Lithuania and never saw a football game before then?
Scapegoated? Art made his nest and enforced next to ZERO discipline so he had to roll around in it.
Thee is getting old, I did not stutter I said Baylor defeated the number 1 ranked Kansas St. team by the score 52 to 24 and ended their Qb's Heisman Campaign !!! With dominating DEFENSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can you hear me now? thee
BangorBear said:
Thee try to stay focused this time! I used the 2012 KSt. game because it was the turning point when Baylor started playing winning defense. I didn't say they were the best. KSt. was ranked number 1 in the nation when they came to Waco and their Heisman candidate was Collin Klein Qb who was the leader for this award at this time. He was a good passer but was really known for his running. They left Waco as big losers to our Bears score 52-24! The Heisman talk ended and their quest for a National Championship was over! Baylor allowed 362 total yds in this game, not bad for a team winning its 5th game in ten try's! Collin Klein was held to 39 yards rushing on 17 attempts. Our defensive coordinator was Phil Bennett remember him?
BangorBear said:
Thee what do you think about a defense that in 1979 gave up 431 yds rushing in a game? This team went bowling with some good defenders that played in the pros after graduating college. Back then defenses were built to stop the run yet they failed miserably ! Guess who!
Congrats Thee I am from Bangor, Maine within a stones throw of the Penobscot River! Also lived in the Philippines,Guam, Hawaii, Casablanca, Morocco before moving to Tucson, Arizona then finally to Texas in 1962. The state animal of Maine is the Black bear, so I was destined to be a Baylor fan from birth (I think).Thee University said:
Correction on my post above when I said the 2012 defense gave up 1.2 miles of offense…….it was really 3.7 miles of O!!!!! In one season. That may be winning D somewhere but not here in Texas. Maybe you really are from that rough, tough football factory in Bangor, Maine?
They were ranked number 2 when you played them!!!Thee University said:BangorBear said:
Thee what do you think about a defense that in 1979 gave up 431 yds rushing in a game? This team went bowling with some good defenders that played in the pros after graduating college. Back then defenses were built to stop the run yet they failed miserably ! Guess who!
That would have to be the 1979 Alabama game when the Tide was ranked #1. On the road in Birmingham.
8 turnovers and a blocked punt opens up the door for a dog drilling.
Stopping the run versus the #1 team in the nation is a little bit different than stopping the run against other schools. That was back when Alabama's 2nd and 3rd teams were just about as good as the starters.
Name another game in 1979 or 1980 where our run defense failed miserably.
The '81 Cotton Bowl 30-2 slaughter by bama again!!! We were ranked number#6 they were ranked #9!!!!!!!!! Pitiful showing by our defense.BangorBear said:They were ranked number 2 when you played them!!!Thee University said:BangorBear said:
Thee what do you think about a defense that in 1979 gave up 431 yds rushing in a game? This team went bowling with some good defenders that played in the pros after graduating college. Back then defenses were built to stop the run yet they failed miserably ! Guess who!
That would have to be the 1979 Alabama game when the Tide was ranked #1. On the road in Birmingham.
8 turnovers and a blocked punt opens up the door for a dog drilling.
Stopping the run versus the #1 team in the nation is a little bit different than stopping the run against other schools. That was back when Alabama's 2nd and 3rd teams were just about as good as the starters.
Name another game in 1979 or 1980 where our run defense failed miserably.
Thee University said:BangorBear said:
Rome wasn't built in a day! It's his first season there, let's see how he's doing by his third season! He's the best football coach I've seen at Baylor. I started backing Baylor in '74 so from Teaff on I have seen all of them! Hands down he is the best, isn't it time for you to grow up?
He was the best OFFENSIVE coach we ever saw at Baylor.
His lack of defense killed us multiple times.
His lack of special teams was evident often.
His lack of discipline cost us a few games.
Unfortunately to be a GREAT coach you have to have all 4 of these covered.
I understand. Those with no true football experience went into an orgasmic orbit around Waco when we'd score a boatload of points. Most times it was enough. Sometimes we surrendered even more points to lose a game. We put up 400 yards but our D gives up 600. Big deal the O.
All you Madden Football Game studs remember is our offense. What good is offense if you can't stop the opposing team from marching right down the field? How many times did we have to watch our opponent have a 3rd down and forever and they converted 90% of the time. Embarrassing.
Will you boys remain ENM season ticket holders to watch a 75 year old coach in Portales, NM beat up on D2 and D3 competition? Can y'all keep that yella dawg school bus running while leaving a trail of smoke out to Portales 5-6 times a year?
Grow up? Why? I'm enjoying my life immensely. I'm just glad I was around to see the.greatest season in Baylor history. 2021. The coach was Dave Aranda and his team, big on defense, did not collapse in the Sugar Bowl.
One more chance. 8-2 Midwestern State. Fire up the yella dawg! If you boys get started tomorrow headed to Portales you should be there for a 2:00 p.m. kickoff.
Well said sir, Bear2393!Bear2393 said:Thee University said:BangorBear said:
Rome wasn't built in a day! It's his first season there, let's see how he's doing by his third season! He's the best football coach I've seen at Baylor. I started backing Baylor in '74 so from Teaff on I have seen all of them! Hands down he is the best, isn't it time for you to grow up?
He was the best OFFENSIVE coach we ever saw at Baylor.
His lack of defense killed us multiple times.
His lack of special teams was evident often.
His lack of discipline cost us a few games.
Unfortunately to be a GREAT coach you have to have all 4 of these covered.
I understand. Those with no true football experience went into an orgasmic orbit around Waco when we'd score a boatload of points. Most times it was enough. Sometimes we surrendered even more points to lose a game. We put up 400 yards but our D gives up 600. Big deal the O.
All you Madden Football Game studs remember is our offense. What good is offense if you can't stop the opposing team from marching right down the field? How many times did we have to watch our opponent have a 3rd down and forever and they converted 90% of the time. Embarrassing.
Will you boys remain ENM season ticket holders to watch a 75 year old coach in Portales, NM beat up on D2 and D3 competition? Can y'all keep that yella dawg school bus running while leaving a trail of smoke out to Portales 5-6 times a year?
Grow up? Why? I'm enjoying my life immensely. I'm just glad I was around to see the.greatest season in Baylor history. 2021. The coach was Dave Aranda and his team, big on defense, did not collapse in the Sugar Bowl.
One more chance. 8-2 Midwestern State. Fire up the yella dawg! If you boys get started tomorrow headed to Portales you should be there for a 2:00 p.m. kickoff.
Wow, Briles won 50 freaking games in his last 5 years here. I believe we would have been in the playoffs within a year, he just had his best recruiting class ever and was kicking Oklahoma and Texas ass on a regular basis. Nearly forgot, he won 2 Big 12 Championships!! He is a terrific man, person, the best football coach by far that Baylor University has ever had and his teams would have beaten your teams by 50 points every time. I do appreciate your time playing for Baylor but not your pathetic comments about Art Briles.
BangorBear said:
Thee is sound asleep right now, he goes to bed with the chickens!
BangorBear said:BangorBear said:Thee University said:BangorBear said:
Thee what do you think about a defense that in 1979 gave up 431 yds rushing in a game? This team went bowling with some good defenders that played in the pros after graduating college. Back then defenses were built to stop the run yet they failed miserably ! Guess who!
That would have to be the 1979 Alabama game when the Tide was ranked #1. On the road in Birmingham.
8 turnovers and a blocked punt opens up the door for a dog drilling.
Stopping the run versus the #1 team in the nation is a little bit different than stopping the run against other schools. That was back when Alabama's 2nd and 3rd teams were just about as good as the starters.
Name another game in 1979 or 1980 where our run defense failed miserably.
They were ranked number 2 when you played them!!!
The '81 Cotton Bowl 30-2 slaughter by bama again!!! We were ranked number#6 they were ranked #9!!!!!!!!! Pitiful showing by our defense.
LIB,MR BEARS said:BangorBear said:
Thee is sound asleep right now, he goes to bed with the chickens!
The practiced without a helmet. We are seeing the consequences.
Rumor has it he was a thug that vandalized downtown Waco properties while he was at BU. If true, he is the ultimate hypocrite.
Bear2393 said:Thee University said:BangorBear said:
Rome wasn't built in a day! It's his first season there, let's see how he's doing by his third season! He's the best football coach I've seen at Baylor. I started backing Baylor in '74 so from Teaff on I have seen all of them! Hands down he is the best, isn't it time for you to grow up?
He was the best OFFENSIVE coach we ever saw at Baylor.
His lack of defense killed us multiple times.
His lack of special teams was evident often.
His lack of discipline cost us a few games.
Unfortunately to be a GREAT coach you have to have all 4 of these covered.
I understand. Those with no true football experience went into an orgasmic orbit around Waco when we'd score a boatload of points. Most times it was enough. Sometimes we surrendered even more points to lose a game. We put up 400 yards but our D gives up 600. Big deal the O.
All you Madden Football Game studs remember is our offense. What good is offense if you can't stop the opposing team from marching right down the field? How many times did we have to watch our opponent have a 3rd down and forever and they converted 90% of the time. Embarrassing.
Will you boys remain ENM season ticket holders to watch a 75 year old coach in Portales, NM beat up on D2 and D3 competition? Can y'all keep that yella dawg school bus running while leaving a trail of smoke out to Portales 5-6 times a year?
Grow up? Why? I'm enjoying my life immensely. I'm just glad I was around to see the.greatest season in Baylor history. 2021. The coach was Dave Aranda and his team, big on defense, did not collapse in the Sugar Bowl.
One more chance. 8-2 Midwestern State. Fire up the yella dawg! If you boys get started tomorrow headed to Portales you should be there for a 2:00 p.m. kickoff.
Wow, Briles won 50 freaking games in his last 5 years here. I believe we would have been in the playoffs within a year, he just had his best recruiting class ever and was kicking Oklahoma and Texas ass on a regular basis. Nearly forgot, he won 2 Big 12 Championships!! He is a terrific man, person, the best football coach by far that Baylor University has ever had and his teams would have beaten your teams by 50 points every time. I do appreciate your time playing for Baylor but not your pathetic comments about Art Briles.
