Just so you know,
Baylor is ranked 45th, BYU 49th on Offense.
Baylor is ranked 17th, BYU 31th on Defense.
I'm just saying it should be competitive, with Baylor having a decent chance to win.

We're also 0-2 in Provo lifetime.

As you would expect, BYU scores more at home (34.5 vs. 29.5) and is better on defense. It will be hard to keep the Coug's below 30 at home. But if we do, I think we win.

Bears 33, Cougs 24

Timbear said:

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Just so you know,
Baylor is ranked 45th, BYU 49th on Offense.
Baylor is ranked 17th, BYU 31th on Defense.
I'm just saying it should be competitive, with Baylor having a decent chance to win.

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Ya I'm trusting Vegas here and giving us like a 30% chance to win in my mind. I just think they're run game is going to be a little bit more efficient than ours over the course of the game, which should give them a slight edge, on top of being at home where they rarely lose. I think they probably get 3.5 points from a better offensive line/jrun game and 3.5 points for playing at home. I would pick baylor at +2 turnovers and probably even at +1 turnovers.

We have to remember Baylor has had one of the easiest schedules of any P4 team so far. We haven't beaten anybody yet that's in the same league as BYU, but we also haven't played anyone like that with DJ healthy.

The weird thin about this season is that I think if DJ was healthy we would probably be 9-0 and Dave would have his job, but I still tend to think we would lose the last three. That scenario would have been kind of a nightmare for Doug.

[I know most people think we wouldn't beat TCU but let's run that back with DJ healthy and running the ball 15 times and tell me we don't score more points. I would bet we would win that 75% of the time. We lost that game on one play where our safety fell down and Dave's stupid decisions not to kick field goals that he constantly made.]

31-24 BU

BU D gets one score due to pressure on their QB forcing a turnover.

Mark it down.

Ewalker80 said:

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Timbear said:

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Just so you know,
Baylor is ranked 45th, BYU 49th on Offense.
Baylor is ranked 17th, BYU 31th on Defense.
I'm just saying it should be competitive, with Baylor having a decent chance to win.

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Ya I'm trusting Vegas here and giving us like a 30% chance to win in my mind. I just think they're run game is going to be a little bit more efficient than ours over the course of the game, which should give them a slight edge, on top of being at home where they rarely lose. I think they probably get 3.5 points from a better offensive line/jrun game and 3.5 points for playing at home. I would pick baylor at +2 turnovers and probably even at +1 turnovers.

We have to remember Baylor has had one of the easiest schedules of any P4 team so far. We haven't beaten anybody yet that's in the same league as BYU, but we also haven't played anyone like that with DJ healthy.

The weird thin about this season is that I think if DJ was healthy we would probably be 9-0 and Dave would have his job, but I still tend to think we would lose the last three. That scenario would have been kind of a nightmare for Doug.

[I know most people think we wouldn't beat TCU but let's run that back with DJ healthy and running the ball 15 times and tell me we don't score more points. I would bet we would win that 75% of the time. We lost that game on one play where our safety fell down and Dave's stupid decisions not to kick field goals that he constantly made.]

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This season, Vegas has been way off many times.

Timbear said:

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Ewalker80 said:

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Timbear said:

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Just so you know,
Baylor is ranked 45th, BYU 49th on Offense.
Baylor is ranked 17th, BYU 31th on Defense.
I'm just saying it should be competitive, with Baylor having a decent chance to win.

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Ya I'm trusting Vegas here and giving us like a 30% chance to win in my mind. I just think they're run game is going to be a little bit more efficient than ours over the course of the game, which should give them a slight edge, on top of being at home where they rarely lose. I think they probably get 3.5 points from a better offensive line/jrun game and 3.5 points for playing at home. I would pick baylor at +2 turnovers and probably even at +1 turnovers.

We have to remember Baylor has had one of the easiest schedules of any P4 team so far. We haven't beaten anybody yet that's in the same league as BYU, but we also haven't played anyone like that with DJ healthy.

The weird thin about this season is that I think if DJ was healthy we would probably be 9-0 and Dave would have his job, but I still tend to think we would lose the last three. That scenario would have been kind of a nightmare for Doug.

[I know most people think we wouldn't beat TCU but let's run that back with DJ healthy and running the ball 15 times and tell me we don't score more points. I would bet we would win that 75% of the time. We lost that game on one play where our safety fell down and Dave's stupid decisions not to kick field goals that he constantly made.]

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This season, Vegas has been way off many times.

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I know. I hear the Gen Z punks cry about losing their rent money on a weekly basis.

Delmar 2.0 said:

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count so far:
byu - 14
bu - 12

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Make it even up at 14

Ewalker80 said:

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Timbear said:

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Just so you know,
Baylor is ranked 45th, BYU 49th on Offense.
Baylor is ranked 17th, BYU 31th on Defense.
I'm just saying it should be competitive, with Baylor having a decent chance to win.

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Ya I'm trusting Vegas here and giving us like a 30% chance to win in my mind. I just think they're run game is going to be a little bit more efficient than ours over the course of the game, which should give them a slight edge, on top of being at home where they rarely lose. I think they probably get 3.5 points from a better offensive line/jrun game and 3.5 points for playing at home. I would pick baylor at +2 turnovers and probably even at +1 turnovers.

We have to remember Baylor has had one of the easiest schedules of any P4 team so far. We haven't beaten anybody yet that's in the same league as BYU, but we also haven't played anyone like that with DJ healthy.

The weird thin about this season is that I think if DJ was healthy we would probably be 9-0 and Dave would have his job, but I still tend to think we would lose the last three. That scenario would have been kind of a nightmare for Doug.

[I know most people think we wouldn't beat TCU but let's run that back with DJ healthy and running the ball 15 times and tell me we don't score more points. I would bet we would win that 75% of the time. We lost that game on one play where our safety fell down and Dave's stupid decisions not to kick field goals that he constantly made.]

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We played Auburn. Auburn beat Georgia. Baylor has played people this year. .

Auburn beat Arkansas on a FG with 23 seconds left in the game. ARKANSAS. A team we probably could defeat. Don't get excited over Auburn. They are as middling as we have been. Not taking a thing away from their win over UGA but UGA just played Bama the week before. The week after has been a disaster for all teams regardless of conference. See BYU vs UCF or TT vs Cincinnati.

Auburn is 3-4 in SEC. Arkansas is 1-5 in SEC. So yearh. We are as good as 3-4 and better than 1-5

Baylor 25
BYU 31

27-14 BYU

There are five teams with really good defensive lines in the Big 12 this year: Tech, TCU, BYU, Houston, Baylor, and Houston.

We saw how our OL was exposed against TCU, and I suspect we will be in for much of the same this weekend. In what is essentially an elimination game for the conference championship game, I expect both defenses to perform well, but our OL will be our downfall. BYU 20 BU 10.

Timbear said:

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BYU lost to UCF. Does anyone here remember what Baylor did to UCF?
The Kland D has averaged giving up 17/game for 9 games.
BYU doesn't score much .
Baylor has averaged 31.88/game for 9 games.
BYU is not ready for the new Kland Bears.
Baylor 24 BYU 20.

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Also, Baylor has been playing well in road games this year. Admittedly none were against ranked teams.

Aliceinbubbleland said:

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Bicycle Caravan 27
No Beer Baptists 18

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No Beef Mormons as well (or caffeine)

KIA said:

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There are five teams with really good defensive lines in the Big 12 this year: Tech, TCU, BYU, Houston, Baylor, and Houston.

We saw how our OL was exposed against TCU, and I suspect we will be in for much of the same this weekend. In what is essentially an elimination game for the conference championship game, I expect both defenses to perform well, but our OL will be our downfall. BYU 20 BU 10.

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This is fan forum. It's no place for common sense and logic.

Get some koolaid and get on board

Timbear said:

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Ewalker80 said:

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Timbear said:

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Just so you know,
Baylor is ranked 45th, BYU 49th on Offense.
Baylor is ranked 17th, BYU 31th on Defense.
I'm just saying it should be competitive, with Baylor having a decent chance to win.

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Ya I'm trusting Vegas here and giving us like a 30% chance to win in my mind. I just think they're run game is going to be a little bit more efficient than ours over the course of the game, which should give them a slight edge, on top of being at home where they rarely lose. I think they probably get 3.5 points from a better offensive line/jrun game and 3.5 points for playing at home. I would pick baylor at +2 turnovers and probably even at +1 turnovers.

We have to remember Baylor has had one of the easiest schedules of any P4 team so far. We haven't beaten anybody yet that's in the same league as BYU, but we also haven't played anyone like that with DJ healthy.

The weird thin about this season is that I think if DJ was healthy we would probably be 9-0 and Dave would have his job, but I still tend to think we would lose the last three. That scenario would have been kind of a nightmare for Doug.

[I know most people think we wouldn't beat TCU but let's run that back with DJ healthy and running the ball 15 times and tell me we don't score more points. I would bet we would win that 75% of the time. We lost that game on one play where our safety fell down and Dave's stupid decisions not to kick field goals that he constantly made.]

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This season, Vegas has been way off many times.

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That's not how it works. Vegas is only "off" when the line shifts massively from its original setting. They're not saying Team A is 7 points better than Team B. They're saying if they set the line at -7, they will get an equal amount of bets on either side. If Baylor wins by 3 or loses by 20, Vegas didn't get the line wrong. They've already gotten the line right because it started at -7.5 and stayed at -7.5.

Don't ever look at the line as "they think we're going to lose by 7." The line is just what they think the bettors are going to do.

EvilTroyAndAbed said:

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Timbear said:

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Ewalker80 said:

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Timbear said:

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Just so you know,
Baylor is ranked 45th, BYU 49th on Offense.
Baylor is ranked 17th, BYU 31th on Defense.
I'm just saying it should be competitive, with Baylor having a decent chance to win.

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Ya I'm trusting Vegas here and giving us like a 30% chance to win in my mind. I just think they're run game is going to be a little bit more efficient than ours over the course of the game, which should give them a slight edge, on top of being at home where they rarely lose. I think they probably get 3.5 points from a better offensive line/jrun game and 3.5 points for playing at home. I would pick baylor at +2 turnovers and probably even at +1 turnovers.

We have to remember Baylor has had one of the easiest schedules of any P4 team so far. We haven't beaten anybody yet that's in the same league as BYU, but we also haven't played anyone like that with DJ healthy.

The weird thin about this season is that I think if DJ was healthy we would probably be 9-0 and Dave would have his job, but I still tend to think we would lose the last three. That scenario would have been kind of a nightmare for Doug.

[I know most people think we wouldn't beat TCU but let's run that back with DJ healthy and running the ball 15 times and tell me we don't score more points. I would bet we would win that 75% of the time. We lost that game on one play where our safety fell down and Dave's stupid decisions not to kick field goals that he constantly made.]

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This season, Vegas has been way off many times.

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That's not how it works. Vegas is only "off" when the line shifts massively from its original setting. They're not saying Team A is 7 points better than Team B. They're saying if they set the line at -7, they will get an equal amount of dollars bet on either side. If Baylor wins by 3 or loses by 20, Vegas didn't get the line wrong. They've already gotten the line right because it started at -7.5 and stayed at -7.5.

Don't ever look at the line as "they think we're going to lose by 7." The line is just what they think the bettors dollars are going to do.

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FIFY

Delmar 2.0 said:

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BUGWBBear said:

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Baylor 17
BYU 45

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1984 part 2

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1983 Part 2

Baylor 40
BYU. 36

I'm still 'seeing' a lower scoring game

Stefano DiMera said:

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Delmar 2.0 said:

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BUGWBBear said:

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Baylor 17
BYU 45

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1984 part 2

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1983 Part 2

Baylor 40
BYU. 36

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I was at that game with BUGWB. I have on CD the televised broadcast to Provo. It wasn't televised for us.

Point being, we were not in Provo for that game. It was Lake Cacaweewee. That was Steve Young's last year and this was the only loss they took that season. Waco.

Here's the entire game brought to you by BYU

BluesBear said:

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Ewalker80 said:

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Timbear said:

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Just so you know,
Baylor is ranked 45th, BYU 49th on Offense.
Baylor is ranked 17th, BYU 31th on Defense.
I'm just saying it should be competitive, with Baylor having a decent chance to win.

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Ya I'm trusting Vegas here and giving us like a 30% chance to win in my mind. I just think they're run game is going to be a little bit more efficient than ours over the course of the game, which should give them a slight edge, on top of being at home where they rarely lose. I think they probably get 3.5 points from a better offensive line/jrun game and 3.5 points for playing at home. I would pick baylor at +2 turnovers and probably even at +1 turnovers.

We have to remember Baylor has had one of the easiest schedules of any P4 team so far. We haven't beaten anybody yet that's in the same league as BYU, but we also haven't played anyone like that with DJ healthy.

The weird thin about this season is that I think if DJ was healthy we would probably be 9-0 and Dave would have his job, but I still tend to think we would lose the last three. That scenario would have been kind of a nightmare for Doug.

[I know most people think we wouldn't beat TCU but let's run that back with DJ healthy and running the ball 15 times and tell me we don't score more points. I would bet we would win that 75% of the time. We lost that game on one play where our safety fell down and Dave's stupid decisions not to kick field goals that he constantly made.]

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We played Auburn. Auburn beat Georgia. Baylor has played people this year. .

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Transitive property doesn't work in sports. No two matchups are the same.

Auburn could be the worst team in the SEC in a given year and will often keep it close with Georgia and get an occasional win, bc its a rivalry.

There is something that has clicked with this team the last two weeks. This is a different team. My prediction, in a close game:

Baylor 34

BYU 31

Byu: 31
Bay: 17