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The new hire better come with more praise and credibility than the Fedora one. Or he messed up.

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I very much disagree. I couldn't care less how much praise and credibility the new guy has. Aranda has zero responsibility to hire someone that we as fans get excited about with our limited knowledge. He made a hire like that about 11 months ago and it didn't work out.

I'm certain he doesn't care what my dumbass thinks about the new guy, and I'm glad.

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It doesn't matter if the new OC is famous or a no name. He just has to have an immediate turn around next season or Aranda is going into year 3 as dead man walking.

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You keep saying this, and I don't think it's in any way remotely true. Even if Aranda's year 2 is as tough as his year 1 (and it won't be), he's not going to be on the hot seat in year 3.

Maybe he will on this site, but he won't be where it really matters, which is the Baylor Athletic Department.

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The new hire better come with more praise and credibility than the Fedora one. Or he messed up.

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I very much disagree. I couldn't care less how much praise and credibility the new guy has. Aranda has zero responsibility to hire someone that we as fans get excited about with our limited knowledge. He made a hire like that about 11 months ago and it didn't work out.

I'm certain he doesn't care what my dumbass thinks about the new guy, and I'm glad.

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I agree with you. When I said praise and credibility I thought it was implied that on field results are a part of that. I just think we should have taken a wait and see approach with Fedora given his past success in normal non covid years. I'm hoping whoever we hire can exceed that. Otherwise the firing will seem shortsighted to me.

Hey Baylor Okie, they're making these wholesale changes because Baylor went 2-7 and looked like crap, had obvious internal conflict surrounding Fedora, and Randa was too clueless about O to change QB's. So if they knew that support comes from wins, they sure didn't act like it. The phrase "Charlie gives us the best chance to win" is the albatross around Randa's neck.

Look he has decided to revamp his staff 11 months in. I don't think that is politically smart for a Hc in his first year with a team a place especially if its his first job. Nevertheless he is doing that because he won 2 games with his original staff of his choosing with BMD money and is saying it was their fault and no one deserves any patience. If there is not immediate turn around now it is going to be his head they are looking at. He can only blame his staff and throw them under the bus so many times in a short period of time and escape being held responsible for the results. Btw I'm expecting 22 to be much better and was before anyone was fired. I certainly think if we continue to be bad in the Aranda era in year 2, he will be fired after year 3 if that season doesn't have huge turnaround.

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I hope someone has told Dave that it's important to hire a good OC or he might not try very hard. I just want to make sure he knows. If I had his number I'd text him about it.

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Took ARB 5 years to become a winning coach at Baylor.

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Yeah and our practice facility was a 35 yard piece of carpet outside of floyd Casey when Briles arrived. Aranda inherited a much much much better situation than Briles.

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How useful were those practice facilities this spring and summer when the kids couldn't use them, or the fancy locker rooms recruits couldn't see? CAB still had the harder path to start, but Aranda wasn't given an easy leg 1 trek for his BU coaching career. The fact he got the defense so locked in, with mostly new starters and not much practice, should be taken as a good sign. He chose wrong on his first OC that a lot thought was a safe bet, I imagine he has the exact knowledge of how key this hire has to be.

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Not disagreeing with your post. I just think Aranda inherited a much better situation than Briles. Most would agree. I'm not saying Aranda should be on the hot seat for this past years performance. I just would have preferred a wait and see approach for Fedora based on the craziness of this year as alluded to in your first sentence. Hoping Aranda gets the next hire right.

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Hey Baylor Okie, they're making these wholesale changes because Baylor went 2-7 and looked like crap, had obvious internal conflict surrounding Fedora, and Randa was too clueless about O to change QB's. So if they knew that support comes from wins, they sure didn't act like it. The phrase "Charlie gives us the best chance to win" is the albatross around Randa's neck.

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Hey Baylor Okie, they're making these wholesale changes because Baylor went 2-7 and looked like crap, had obvious internal conflict surrounding Fedora, and Randa was too clueless about O to change QB's. So if they knew that support comes from wins, they sure didn't act like it. The phrase "Charlie gives us the best chance to win" is the albatross around Randa's neck.

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I hope someone has told Dave that it's important to hire a good OC or he might not try very hard. I just want to make sure he knows. If I had his number I'd text him about it.

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Took ARB 5 years to become a winning coach at Baylor.

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Yeah and our practice facility was a 35 yard piece of carpet outside of floyd Casey when Briles arrived. Aranda inherited a much much much better situation than Briles.

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How useful were those practice facilities this spring and summer when the kids couldn't use them, or the fancy locker rooms recruits couldn't see? CAB still had the harder path to start, but Aranda wasn't given an easy leg 1 trek for his BU coaching career. The fact he got the defense so locked in, with mostly new starters and not much practice, should be taken as a good sign. He chose wrong on his first OC that a lot thought was a safe bet, I imagine he has the exact knowledge of how key this hire has to be.

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Not disagreeing with your post. I just think Aranda inherited a much better situation than Briles. Most would agree. I'm not saying Aranda should be on the hot seat for this past years performance. I just would have preferred a wait and see approach for Fedora based on the craziness of this year as alluded to in your first sentence. Hoping Aranda gets the next hire right.

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No doubt I agree with you, but tis the joy of this board. Almost everyone on this side calls for changes/Fedoras head, next thing now Aranda isn't in control... I have a personal feeling personalities just did not mesh well, which can be expected in a situation like this. It's like starting a satellite branch of business in a new territory. You hired a veteran to be your manager, found some very applicable sales below him, but just under performed with personalities not getting along. If your head knows it's not working, you'd rather him make the switch now than have another year of conflicting views affecting your margin. Maybe you bring in a newer face with less experience but you can see the vision and end result, and more important the manager likes working with them.

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The new hire better come with more praise and credibility than the Fedora one. Or he messed up.

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I very much disagree. I couldn't care less how much praise and credibility the new guy has. Aranda has zero responsibility to hire someone that we as fans get excited about with our limited knowledge. He made a hire like that about 11 months ago and it didn't work out.

I'm certain he doesn't care what my dumbass thinks about the new guy, and I'm glad.

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I agree with you. When I said praise and credibility I thought it was implied that on field results are a part of that. I just think we should have taken a wait and see approach with Fedora given his past success in normal non covid years. I'm hoping whoever we hire can exceed that. Otherwise the firing will seem shortsighted to me.

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I understand what you're saying about maybe waiting longer to decide on Fedora. I think it's pretty likely that there were factors other than what we saw on Saturdays that led to the change. Even the possibility that Fedora himself agreed that it wasn't going to work.

Aranda seems like a pretty thoughtful guy. Not that he hasn't made a mistake here - I sure as heck don't know - but I believe he's made a very careful and deliberate decision, not one that is rash or due to pressure from ADMR.

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Question for the Baylor Politburo:

What is the significance of this, assuming it comes to pass?

TIA.

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F"The Fiesta Bowl WAS Briles undoing. From that moment on, a couple of regents held a grudge and began undoing his tenure at Baylor. Payback is Hell." - Stranger

This quote says it all and proves all you need to know about Stranger and his kind on the BU board. When he gets fired from his next job or doesn't get that promotion, when his dog bites him or he gets pulled over for speeding...whatever that next thing is, he will pull out his trump card and exclaim: THE BOR HAS A GRUDGE AGAINST ME AND IT BEGAN MY UNDOING, PAYBACK IS HELL!!!!

Where is the mute button?

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This. It's either the BOR or UT conspiracy theories while ignoring the shortcomings that actually lead to Briles being fired.

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Buddy Jones and Chip Brown say Happy New Year!!!

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Oh sorry, yes BOR and Buddy Jones and Chip Brown. Anyone else you want to blame for your lot in life? Happy to keep the list....mom, dad, your first boss, little sis, older brother?

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What does the BOR, Buddy Jones, or Chip Brown have to do with my lot in life? From where I'm sitting, life is good. I have been truly blessed.

Always good to hear from you, BU82EX. Happy New Year!

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Based on every post you've ever made its impossible to view you as a "life is good" kinda person. All you do is complain about Baylor and the BOR and Buddy Jones and Chip Brown and fill in the blank. Your next positive post about Baylor will be your first. Sorry pal but you sure seem pretty miserable to me, otherwise you wouldn't still be so worked up about something that happened 3 HC's ago. I hope the new year brings you some true Baylor joy. Maybe you should move on from football and start following our basketball team. Of course, the problem with that is there is not much to complain about over there.....

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What is the significance of this, assuming it comes to pass?

TIA.

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I knew his family from El Paso. He was a rising star for sure. It isn't the end of the world unless Mack left right now, but he was very good at his job, so to get a shot at a really good G5 school like Boise is quite a compliment.

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TIA.

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I knew his family from El Paso. He was a rising star for sure. It isn't the end of the world unless Mack left right now, but he was very good at his job, so to get a shot at a really good G5 school like Boise is quite a compliment.

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The world would not end if Mack left either. Next up?

The very positive thing is that Randa is doing a great job with the D, and the fact that our top players are returning means they believe Baylor can win and win now. I am pumped that they're cleaning house on O. Doesn't matter whose doing it. 2021 will be exciting for fans and players.

I like the positive attitude!

It definitely will be interesting going forward to see how the year plays out with Spring ball, Fall camp, media days, etc.--and all the stupid COVID issues. Will life finally return to normal, especially now that a vaccine is available?

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I like the positive attitude!

Will life finally return to normal, especially now that a vaccine is available?

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No, there will be a new President in office, and no telling how that will shake up our normal life.

Good point. Who knows what Sleepy Joe & the Ho will do to us this year?

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I like the positive attitude!

Will life finally return to normal, especially now that a vaccine is available?

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No, there will be a new President in office, and no telling how that will shake up our normal life.

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It's hilarious to me how much people overestimate the President's impact on their day-to-day life.

Outside of you consciously deciding to get upset about something our current President does, or the incoming one, there shouldn't be one moment in a normal day where he crosses your mind. Local elections are far more impactful.

It definitely should be that way but unfortunately is not always. National mandates & lockdowns are 2020 examples.

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I like the positive attitude!

Will life finally return to normal, especially now that a vaccine is available?

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No, there will be a new President in office, and no telling how that will shake up our normal life.

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Maybe, Maybe not.

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F"The Fiesta Bowl WAS Briles undoing. From that moment on, a couple of regents held a grudge and began undoing his tenure at Baylor. Payback is Hell." - Stranger

This quote says it all and proves all you need to know about Stranger and his kind on the BU board. When he gets fired from his next job or doesn't get that promotion, when his dog bites him or he gets pulled over for speeding...whatever that next thing is, he will pull out his trump card and exclaim: THE BOR HAS A GRUDGE AGAINST ME AND IT BEGAN MY UNDOING, PAYBACK IS HELL!!!!

Where is the mute button?

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This. It's either the BOR or UT conspiracy theories while ignoring the shortcomings that actually lead to Briles being fired.

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Buddy Jones and Chip Brown say Happy New Year!!!

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Oh sorry, yes BOR and Buddy Jones and Chip Brown. Anyone else you want to blame for your lot in life? Happy to keep the list....mom, dad, your first boss, little sis, older brother?

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What does the BOR, Buddy Jones, or Chip Brown have to do with my lot in life? From where I'm sitting, life is good. I have been truly blessed.

Always good to hear from you, BU82EX. Happy New Year!

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Based on every post you've ever made its impossible to view you as a "life is good" kinda person. All you do is complain about Baylor and the BOR and Buddy Jones and Chip Brown and fill in the blank. Your next positive post about Baylor will be your first. Sorry pal but you sure seem pretty miserable to me, otherwise you wouldn't still be so worked up about something that happened 3 HC's ago. I hope the new year brings you some true Baylor joy. Maybe you should move on from football and start following our basketball team. Of course, the problem with that is there is not much to complain about over there.....

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Why are you so angry? Yes, Baylor transformed my attitude about Baylor with their handling of the scandal. Got over my anger with Baylor leadership some time ago. To the point when it comes down to it, there are much more important things in life than the game of football. If we win, great!! If we lose, no biggie. You seem to be the one that blows up and gets defensive with any criticizm whatsoever of the Baylor leadership. Sorry, but bad behavior will never get a free pass from me. They greatly damaged the reputation of our school when they should have been protecting it.

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I like the positive attitude!

Will life finally return to normal, especially now that a vaccine is available?

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No, there will be a new President in office, and no telling how that will shake up our normal life.

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Sometimes the best thing that can happen to us is for our normal lives to be shaken up. That's from personal experience and how some of the best days in my life have been been disguised as some of the worst.

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No doubt I agree with you, but tis the joy of this board. Almost everyone on this side calls for changes/Fedoras head, next thing now Aranda isn't in control... I have a personal feeling personalities just did not mesh well, which can be expected in a situation like this. It's like starting a satellite branch of business in a new territory. You hired a veteran to be your manager, found some very applicable sales below him, but just under performed with personalities not getting along. If your head knows it's not working, you'd rather him make the switch now than have another year of conflicting views affecting your margin. Maybe you bring in a newer face with less experience but you can see the vision and end result, and more important the manager likes working with them.

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Great post. The offense wasn't just not good, it made no progress and Fedora showed no creativity in trying to better utilize the players we have. I honestly think he needed a break from coaching before taking an OC job.

I'm a bit nervous about Aranda because I'm a huge believer in momentum and the pandemic season really hurt his chances to get it started, but this is absolutely the right time to shake up the staff if things aren't working. Another year of things not working only makes the whole situation worse.

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No doubt I agree with you, but tis the joy of this board. Almost everyone on this side calls for changes/Fedoras head, next thing now Aranda isn't in control... I have a personal feeling personalities just did not mesh well, which can be expected in a situation like this. It's like starting a satellite branch of business in a new territory. You hired a veteran to be your manager, found some very applicable sales below him, but just under performed with personalities not getting along. If your head knows it's not working, you'd rather him make the switch now than have another year of conflicting views affecting your margin. Maybe you bring in a newer face with less experience but you can see the vision and end result, and more important the manager likes working with them.

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Great post. The offense wasn't just not good, it made no progress and Fedora showed no creativity in trying to better utilize the players we have. I honestly think he needed a break from coaching before taking an OC job.

I'm a bit nervous about Aranda because I'm a huge believer in momentum and the pandemic season really hurt his chances to get it started, but this is absolutely the right time to shake up the staff if things aren't working. Another year of things not working only makes the whole situation worse.

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Momentum is as good as your next day's starting pitcher in baseball. In football, it is as good as your recruiting class, and the class is solid. Not nervous at all.

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No doubt I agree with you, but tis the joy of this board. Almost everyone on this side calls for changes/Fedoras head, next thing now Aranda isn't in control... I have a personal feeling personalities just did not mesh well, which can be expected in a situation like this. It's like starting a satellite branch of business in a new territory. You hired a veteran to be your manager, found some very applicable sales below him, but just under performed with personalities not getting along. If your head knows it's not working, you'd rather him make the switch now than have another year of conflicting views affecting your margin. Maybe you bring in a newer face with less experience but you can see the vision and end result, and more important the manager likes working with them.

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Great post. The offense wasn't just not good, it made no progress and Fedora showed no creativity in trying to better utilize the players we have. I honestly think he needed a break from coaching before taking an OC job.

I'm a bit nervous about Aranda because I'm a huge believer in momentum and the pandemic season really hurt his chances to get it started, but this is absolutely the right time to shake up the staff if things aren't working. Another year of things not working only makes the whole situation worse.

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Momentum is as good as your next day's starting pitcher in baseball. In football, it is as good as your recruiting class, and the class is solid. Not nervous at all.

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if that's the case, they have 20+ years of momentum in Austin so, there's that.

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No doubt I agree with you, but tis the joy of this board. Almost everyone on this side calls for changes/Fedoras head, next thing now Aranda isn't in control... I have a personal feeling personalities just did not mesh well, which can be expected in a situation like this. It's like starting a satellite branch of business in a new territory. You hired a veteran to be your manager, found some very applicable sales below him, but just under performed with personalities not getting along. If your head knows it's not working, you'd rather him make the switch now than have another year of conflicting views affecting your margin. Maybe you bring in a newer face with less experience but you can see the vision and end result, and more important the manager likes working with them.

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Great post. The offense wasn't just not good, it made no progress and Fedora showed no creativity in trying to better utilize the players we have. I honestly think he needed a break from coaching before taking an OC job.

I'm a bit nervous about Aranda because I'm a huge believer in momentum and the pandemic season really hurt his chances to get it started, but this is absolutely the right time to shake up the staff if things aren't working. Another year of things not working only makes the whole situation worse.

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Momentum is as good as your next day's starting pitcher in baseball. In football, it is as good as your recruiting class, and the class is solid. Not nervous at all.

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Well that's good to hear. I don't really keep up on recruiting so that was my main concern.

I'm excited to see who we hire for OC. Our defense seemed to play as well as the Rhule era so if we can find someone with a spark we could be back up and running very soon.

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Yes, but they also still have the Austin culture. That outweighs everything.

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Yes, but they also still have the Austin culture. That outweighs everything.

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Good point!

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No doubt I agree with you, but tis the joy of this board. Almost everyone on this side calls for changes/Fedoras head, next thing now Aranda isn't in control... I have a personal feeling personalities just did not mesh well, which can be expected in a situation like this. It's like starting a satellite branch of business in a new territory. You hired a veteran to be your manager, found some very applicable sales below him, but just under performed with personalities not getting along. If your head knows it's not working, you'd rather him make the switch now than have another year of conflicting views affecting your margin. Maybe you bring in a newer face with less experience but you can see the vision and end result, and more important the manager likes working with them.

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Great post. The offense wasn't just not good, it made no progress and Fedora showed no creativity in trying to better utilize the players we have. I honestly think he needed a break from coaching before taking an OC job.

I'm a bit nervous about Aranda because I'm a huge believer in momentum and the pandemic season really hurt his chances to get it started, but this is absolutely the right time to shake up the staff if things aren't working. Another year of things not working only makes the whole situation worse.

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It will be another lean season in 2021. Just plan on it that way, and you won't get too upset. Anything else will be gravy.

Sic'em

p.s. Yes, we do notice this is your burner account.

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No doubt I agree with you, but tis the joy of this board. Almost everyone on this side calls for changes/Fedoras head, next thing now Aranda isn't in control... I have a personal feeling personalities just did not mesh well, which can be expected in a situation like this. It's like starting a satellite branch of business in a new territory. You hired a veteran to be your manager, found some very applicable sales below him, but just under performed with personalities not getting along. If your head knows it's not working, you'd rather him make the switch now than have another year of conflicting views affecting your margin. Maybe you bring in a newer face with less experience but you can see the vision and end result, and more important the manager likes working with them.

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Great post. The offense wasn't just not good, it made no progress and Fedora showed no creativity in trying to better utilize the players we have. I honestly think he needed a break from coaching before taking an OC job.

I'm a bit nervous about Aranda because I'm a huge believer in momentum and the pandemic season really hurt his chances to get it started, but this is absolutely the right time to shake up the staff if things aren't working. Another year of things not working only makes the whole situation worse.

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It will be another lean season in 2021. Just plan on it that way, and you won't get too upset. Anything else will be gravy.

Sic'em

p.s. Yes, we do notice this is your burner account.

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I'm no burner account. A few of the old timers will remember me from BF in years past. My proudest moment was starting a thread predicting we'd beat #1 KSU by multiple scores. Well that and getting into a few healthy scrapes on the R&P board. I decided to check in with all the staff shakeups.

As for 2021 I'm expecting 5 wins and looking good in the losses. That to me would signal that we have a 50-50 shot of breaking out in 2022 and getting to 7+ which is obviously the goal.

If the new OC doesn't produce a good season in 21, Aranda is done after 22 if it is not a season well above .500.

Some folks on here learned how to be fans by watching the entitled state u

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No doubt I agree with you, but tis the joy of this board. Almost everyone on this side calls for changes/Fedoras head, next thing now Aranda isn't in control... I have a personal feeling personalities just did not mesh well, which can be expected in a situation like this. It's like starting a satellite branch of business in a new territory. You hired a veteran to be your manager, found some very applicable sales below him, but just under performed with personalities not getting along. If your head knows it's not working, you'd rather him make the switch now than have another year of conflicting views affecting your margin. Maybe you bring in a newer face with less experience but you can see the vision and end result, and more important the manager likes working with them.

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Great post. The offense wasn't just not good, it made no progress and Fedora showed no creativity in trying to better utilize the players we have. I honestly think he needed a break from coaching before taking an OC job.

I'm a bit nervous about Aranda because I'm a huge believer in momentum and the pandemic season really hurt his chances to get it started, but this is absolutely the right time to shake up the staff if things aren't working. Another year of things not working only makes the whole situation worse.

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It will be another lean season in 2021. Just plan on it that way, and you won't get too upset. Anything else will be gravy.

Sic'em

p.s. Yes, we do notice this is your burner account.

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I'm no burner account. A few of the old timers will remember me from BF in years past. My proudest moment was starting a thread predicting we'd beat #1 KSU by multiple scores. Well that and getting into a few healthy scrapes on the R&P board. I decided to check in with all the staff shakeups.

As for 2021 I'm expecting 5 wins and looking good in the losses. That to me would signal that we have a 50-50 shot of breaking out in 2022 and getting to 7+ which is obviously the goal.

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Given our non conference schedule anything less than 6 next season would be a disappointment. Could go 2-7 in conference again and get to five. Similar expectations to 2018 but we have more talent particularly on defense. Assuming we can piece together at least a mediocre big twelve offensive line.

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No doubt I agree with you, but tis the joy of this board. Almost everyone on this side calls for changes/Fedoras head, next thing now Aranda isn't in control... I have a personal feeling personalities just did not mesh well, which can be expected in a situation like this. It's like starting a satellite branch of business in a new territory. You hired a veteran to be your manager, found some very applicable sales below him, but just under performed with personalities not getting along. If your head knows it's not working, you'd rather him make the switch now than have another year of conflicting views affecting your margin. Maybe you bring in a newer face with less experience but you can see the vision and end result, and more important the manager likes working with them.

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Great post. The offense wasn't just not good, it made no progress and Fedora showed no creativity in trying to better utilize the players we have. I honestly think he needed a break from coaching before taking an OC job.

I'm a bit nervous about Aranda because I'm a huge believer in momentum and the pandemic season really hurt his chances to get it started, but this is absolutely the right time to shake up the staff if things aren't working. Another year of things not working only makes the whole situation worse.

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It will be another lean season in 2021. Just plan on it that way, and you won't get too upset. Anything else will be gravy.

Sic'em

p.s. Yes, we do notice this is your burner account.

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I'm no burner account. A few of the old timers will remember me from BF in years past. My proudest moment was starting a thread predicting we'd beat #1 KSU by multiple scores. Well that and getting into a few healthy scrapes on the R&P board. I decided to check in with all the staff shakeups.

As for 2021 I'm expecting 5 wins and looking good in the losses. That to me would signal that we have a 50-50 shot of breaking out in 2022 and getting to 7+ which is obviously the goal.

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I'm hoping for a bowl game in 2021. With a couple of gimme wins in the nonconference, we could lose to BYU and still only need to go 4-5 in league play to reach bowl eligibility. I don't think that's an unfair expectation.

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No doubt I agree with you, but tis the joy of this board. Almost everyone on this side calls for changes/Fedoras head, next thing now Aranda isn't in control... I have a personal feeling personalities just did not mesh well, which can be expected in a situation like this. It's like starting a satellite branch of business in a new territory. You hired a veteran to be your manager, found some very applicable sales below him, but just under performed with personalities not getting along. If your head knows it's not working, you'd rather him make the switch now than have another year of conflicting views affecting your margin. Maybe you bring in a newer face with less experience but you can see the vision and end result, and more important the manager likes working with them.

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Great post. The offense wasn't just not good, it made no progress and Fedora showed no creativity in trying to better utilize the players we have. I honestly think he needed a break from coaching before taking an OC job.

I'm a bit nervous about Aranda because I'm a huge believer in momentum and the pandemic season really hurt his chances to get it started, but this is absolutely the right time to shake up the staff if things aren't working. Another year of things not working only makes the whole situation worse.

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It will be another lean season in 2021. Just plan on it that way, and you won't get too upset. Anything else will be gravy.

Sic'em

p.s. Yes, we do notice this is your burner account.

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I'm no burner account. A few of the old timers will remember me from BF in years past. My proudest moment was starting a thread predicting we'd beat #1 KSU by multiple scores. Well that and getting into a few healthy scrapes on the R&P board. I decided to check in with all the staff shakeups.

As for 2021 I'm expecting 5 wins and looking good in the losses. That to me would signal that we have a 50-50 shot of breaking out in 2022 and getting to 7+ which is obviously the goal.

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Given our non conference schedule anything less than 6 next season would be a disappointment. Could go 2-7 in conference again and get to five. Similar expectations to 2018 but we have more talent particularly on defense. Assuming we can piece together at least a mediocre big twelve offensive line.

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I wouldn't pencil in BYU as a win just yet. That's a good program coming off a great season. They'll have a new quarterback (and potentially a new OC; fingers crossed), but they'll still be very competitive.