The whole AAC and ESPN deal is rather stupid.

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PartyBear
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Had it been the BiG , PAC, or ACC or any combo of the 3. That would be more dicey for the remaining 8. Even if they were busted on it. It would be harder for the 8 to hold together with all 8 or some of the 8 risking a spot in the new big leagues emerging. Like any of the remaining 8 couldnt work out a deal with AAC today on their own??

This was a stupid strategy. If you are going to tortiously interfere with a contract to destroy a conference and do it in a way to completely get away with it and accomplish your goals, you needed to have had a much better strategy that would result in offers that couldnt be refused by at least half the remaining 8. Thinking they could buy the voting of the XII out of existence and hence the by laws and GOR out of existence with AAC member ship was just stupid. Very amatuerish follow up to a very well planned initial arranging of Texas and OU over the SEC.
BearFan33
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PartyBear said:

Had it been the BiG , PAC, or ACC or any combo of the 3. That would be more dicey for the remaining 8. Even if they were busted on it. It would be harder for the 8 to hold together with all 8 or some of the 8 risking a spot in the new big leagues emerging. Like any of the remaining 8 couldnt work out a deal with AAC today on their own??

This was a stupid strategy. If you are going to tortiously interfere with a contract to destroy a conference and do it in a way to completely get away with it and accomplish your goals, you needed to have had a much better strategy that would result in offers that couldnt be refused by at least half the remaining 8.
I agree but they could probably offer AAC leadership B12 or near B12 money and they would jump to destabilize what's left of the B12. For the others, it would take a bigger number.
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Plus ESPN's relationship with the AAC's commissioner. Plus the AAC's willingness to move fast unlike the Big 10, ACC and Pac 12. The leak of UT and OU to the SEC screwed everything up.
BellCountyBear
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As someone else on another thread said, all any of this is going to do is enrich some lawyers.
RMF5630
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Only thing that makes any sense is to give the AAC B12 money. If they paid the AAC the same share as the B12 paid and gave the Conference Champ auto access to the playoff, it could work as it elevates the AAC members and makes the B12 schools whole with a legitimate shot at Playoff.
PartyBear
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RMF5630 said:

Only thing that makes any sense is to give the AAC B12 money. If they paid the AAC the same share as the B12 paid and gave the Conference Champ auto access to the playoff, it could work as it elevates the AAC members and makes the B12 schools whole with a legitimate shot at Playoff.
That might have been the case. I wonder who would blow the whistle in that scenario especially if it was allegedly a deal for all 8 to go there. It could have been that contract offered was for a very brief TV deal and everyone saw the writing on the wall that they are just pushing off where we are now for another 5 years or so beyond 2025 and the GOR money and the potential law suit money they were creating now are worth more than that. Just my speculation if you are correct.
Born_A_Bear
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The only reason to promote AAC over the established P5 BigXII, is to save ESPN $.
bear2be2
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Born_A_Bear said:

The only reason to promote AAC over the established P5 BigXII, is to save ESPN $.
And expedite Texas and OU's exit to the SEC/the formation of the first super conference.
PartyBear
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bear2be2 said:

Born_A_Bear said:

The only reason to promote AAC over the established P5 BigXII, is to save ESPN $.
And expedite Texas and OU's exit to the SEC/the formation of the first super conference.
Expediting Texas and OU's exit at no consequence to them would be arranging all or at least 4 of the remaining 8 a spot in the 3 other P5s or a combination of them. Thinking they could buy the XII out of existence with AAC memberships was stupid is my point.
Born_A_Bear
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Stupid and arrogant.
bear2be2
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PartyBear said:

bear2be2 said:

Born_A_Bear said:

The only reason to promote AAC over the established P5 BigXII, is to save ESPN $.
And expedite Texas and OU's exit to the SEC/the formation of the first super conference.
Expediting Texas and OU's exit at no consequence to them would be arranging all or at least 4 of the remaining 8 a spot in the 3 other P5s or a combination of them. Thinking they could buy the XII out of existence with AAC memberships was stupid is my point.
And I agree with your point. It was really presumptuous on ESPN's part to think the Forgotten 8 would be satisfied with a landing spot in the AAC when that's a worst case scenario for most of these schools.

The far more prudent play, if there are no good options for any of these eight, is to hold together and squeeze every penny they can out of UT, OU and ESPN. And it sounds like that's the plan until something better than the AAC comes along to change it.
PartyBear
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bear2be2 said:

PartyBear said:

bear2be2 said:

Born_A_Bear said:

The only reason to promote AAC over the established P5 BigXII, is to save ESPN $.
And expedite Texas and OU's exit to the SEC/the formation of the first super conference.
Expediting Texas and OU's exit at no consequence to them would be arranging all or at least 4 of the remaining 8 a spot in the 3 other P5s or a combination of them. Thinking they could buy the XII out of existence with AAC memberships was stupid is my point.
And I agree with your point. It was really presumptuous on ESPN's part to think the Forgotten 8 would be satisfied with a landing spot in the AAC when that's a worst case scenario for most of these schools.

The far more prudent play, if there are no good options for any of these eight, is to hold together and squeeze every penny they can out of UT, OU and ESPN. And it sounds like that's the plan until something better than the AAC comes along to change it.
Or squeeze ---meaning secure a stable place at the big boy table for all of them in the looming realignment to make it all go away.
RMF5630
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"The only reason to promote AAC over the established P5 BigXII, is to save ESPN $."



Initially. But, as this goes on it may be cleaner to elevate the AAC as I said. Let's look at it this way. Who else could get involved if this drags out??
1 - Court: B12 will go that route just to play this out in the media and hope to attract more of the "have nots"
2 - State Legislatures: What looks like a slam dunk in Austin, doesn't play that way in the rest of the Texas and the Plains States
3 - Congress: If you remember the last time this happened Congress showed interest in what was happening. All these "have nots" represent a lot of people. Does Congress take interest, especially with the focus on the control of information and mega-monopolies of late.

So, paying more to get this over cleaner, is smart business. Right now, it is controllable, throw in USC to the B10 or worse USC, UCLA, Oregon, Washington, and Colorado. All of sudden this starts getting the attention of those that will lose and could cause problems. Smart business is to make sure everyone in a P5 conference gets taken care of, smarter rise the tide for another 25 or so schools. Now, you are a visionary.
EvilTroyAndAbed
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RMF5630 said:

"The only reason to promote AAC over the established P5 BigXII, is to save ESPN $."



Initially. But, as this goes on it may be cleaner to elevate the AAC as I said. Let's look at it this way. Who else could get involved if this drags out??
1 - Court: B12 will go that route just to play this out in the media and hope to attract more of the "have nots"
2 - State Legislatures: What looks like a slam dunk in Austin, doesn't play that way in the rest of the Texas and the Plains States
3 - Congress: If you remember the last time this happened Congress showed interest in what was happening. All these "have nots" represent a lot of people. Does Congress take interest, especially with the focus on the control of information and mega-monopolies of late.

So, paying more to get this over cleaner, is smart business. Right now, it is controllable, throw in USC to the B10 or worse USC, UCLA, Oregon, Washington, and Colorado. All of sudden this starts getting the attention of those that will lose and could cause problems. Smart business is to make sure everyone in a P5 conference gets taken care of, smarter rise the tide for another 25 or so schools. Now, you are a visionary.
And that's what ESPN is working against. They are working toward a 32-team semi-pro super league that is affiliated with colleges for loyal fan support. And members of the current SEC, B1G, ACC and Pac-12 will be left out in the cold.

Everything outside of this potential league is of no real interest to ESPN.
bear2be2
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EvilTroyAndAbed said:

RMF5630 said:

"The only reason to promote AAC over the established P5 BigXII, is to save ESPN $."



Initially. But, as this goes on it may be cleaner to elevate the AAC as I said. Let's look at it this way. Who else could get involved if this drags out??
1 - Court: B12 will go that route just to play this out in the media and hope to attract more of the "have nots"
2 - State Legislatures: What looks like a slam dunk in Austin, doesn't play that way in the rest of the Texas and the Plains States
3 - Congress: If you remember the last time this happened Congress showed interest in what was happening. All these "have nots" represent a lot of people. Does Congress take interest, especially with the focus on the control of information and mega-monopolies of late.

So, paying more to get this over cleaner, is smart business. Right now, it is controllable, throw in USC to the B10 or worse USC, UCLA, Oregon, Washington, and Colorado. All of sudden this starts getting the attention of those that will lose and could cause problems. Smart business is to make sure everyone in a P5 conference gets taken care of, smarter rise the tide for another 25 or so schools. Now, you are a visionary.
And that's what ESPN is working against. They are working toward a 32-team semi-pro super league that is affiliated with colleges for loyal fan support. And members of the current SEC, B1G, ACC and Pac-12 will be left out in the cold.

Everything outside of this potential league is of no real interest to ESPN.
Exactly. ESPN wants to consolidate power and limit access to members of their exclusive club. And they're trying to do it so fast that those being left out and other potential broadcast competitors don't have a chance to respond, react or challenge their hostile takeover of the sport.

What they haven't taken into account, though, is that those being impacted in the most negative way by this aren't likely to take it lying down.
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