As per Trib . Logan's is closing 261 locations permanently and Old Chicago is closing all locations.
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Logan's and Old Chicago permanently closed in Waco
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Last: 4 yr ago by trey3216
Wow I knew both had been closed during Covid-19, but that was a quick permamant shutdown. I always wondered how Logan's made it with it being a worse version of what is already a mediocre Texas Roadhouse.
Noooo evidence for that, babeeyyy, just maaade it up.
logan's isn't a big loss, bit surprised about old chicago. The marketplace has not been kind to chain restaurants.
I think the fact that two chains are gone now nation wide after only 3 weeks indicates this is far more than just some economic bump in the road and that everything is back to how it was in February real soon , as folks on the R&P board want to think.
The fact that a national chain is gone after 3 weeks is likely an indication there were deep problems that pre-dated corona virus. Craft Works Holdings, the parent of Old Chicago and Logans Road House filed bankruptcy 3-3-20 and entered an agreement to sell to its senior lender Fortress Credit. This looks to have been a workout situation for some time prior to CV. The sell deal collapsed when CV hit.
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IMHO, you are being very kind to Texas Roadhouse.BaylorHistory said:
Wow I knew both had been closed during Covid-19, but that was a quick permamant shutdown. I always wondered how Logan's made it with it being a worse version of what is already a mediocre Texas Roadhouse.
Never went to Old Chicago. Was it any good?
BellCountyBear said:
Never went to Old Chicago. Was it any good?
We went once. Not a "do over" for us.
It was fine. Nothing special food wise, but I could see where if you were watching a game with some friends it would be a good time. I wouldn't ever say "Man I could go for some Old Chicago tonight".BellCountyBear said:
Never went to Old Chicago. Was it any good?
Noooo evidence for that, babeeyyy, just maaade it up.
I went to Old Chicago several times. Had a good kids menu so I was a fan. Pizza was above average but not a "must have." Kinda pricey. Great bar. Tons of TVs.
Actually liked Logans better than Texas roadhouse but i dont think they are a big loss to me. Never ate at old chicago...
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CorsicanaBear said:
The fact that a national chain is gone after 3 weeks is likely an indication there were deep problems that pre-dated corona virus. Craft Works Holdings, the parent of Old Chicago and Logans Road House filed bankruptcy 3-3-20 and entered an agreement to sell to its senior lender Fortress Credit. This looks to have been a workout situation for some time prior to CV. The sell deal collapsed when CV hit.
Great timing. Maybe get a little gov't help on the way out.
Heard a rumor that Ninfa's may not open back up.
I hope that it's NOT true.
[Edited post to include critical word]
I hope that it's NOT true.
[Edited post to include critical word]
Ninfa's Waco is always super busy. Why wouldn't it open back up?
A lot of these restaurants are names owned by a large corporate structure. That corporate structure might also own 20 other restaurant names, etc.
One restaurant might be busy, but the overall name nationwide, or the corporate parent, might be overextended. That particular location could be profitable, but there may be no "Ninfas" name to re-open.
One restaurant might be busy, but the overall name nationwide, or the corporate parent, might be overextended. That particular location could be profitable, but there may be no "Ninfas" name to re-open.
It's not my favorite place, but it isn't bad enough that I want it to close.Coke Bear said:
Heard a rumor that Ninfa's may not open back up.
I hope that it's true.
Noooo evidence for that, babeeyyy, just maaade it up.
Why would you wish that? Lots of people like it and it does provide jobs. Had a good friend help pay her way through Baylor working there.Coke Bear said:
Heard a rumor that Ninfa's may not open back up.
I hope that it's true.
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Living fast or dying slow.
I dont want to live forever.
But I will live while I'm here.
Waco Ninfa's is a local licensee. Only a handful of Houston locations are corporate owned.Coke Bear said:
Heard a rumor that Ninfa's may not open back up.
I hope that it's true.
Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:Why would you wish that? Lots of people like it and it does provide jobs. Had a good friend help pay her way through Baylor working there.Coke Bear said:
Heard a rumor that Ninfa's may not open back up.
I hope that it's true.
Agree who wants to see any business fail? Seriously who wants to see nice things go away due to recession or worse. I'm concerned about Waco being back where it was in the 80s when it's over. What works against that concern is the demographics are still the same countering that however is whether everyone comes out with jobs and disposable income still to spend at places.
My family and I would be devastated if Ninfa's closed in Waco. Definitely one of our favorite spots and many great memories. They do a huge business there; I can't imagine this is true but you never know in the restaurant business.
Who doesn't like a Ninfarita and fajitas ala Barry? One of my favorite combos of all time!
Who doesn't like a Ninfarita and fajitas ala Barry? One of my favorite combos of all time!
MEA CULPA!!!Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:Why would you wish that? Lots of people like it and it does provide jobs. Had a good friend help pay her way through Baylor working there.Coke Bear said:
Heard a rumor that Ninfa's may not open back up.
I hope that it's true.
I meant to say ...
"I hope that it is NOT true."
I'm not sure how I forgot the critical word in that post. I really enjoy Ninfa's fajitas.
Thanks for pointing that out.
PartyBear said:
Agree who wants to see any business fail? Seriously who wants to see nice things go away due to recession or worse. I'm concerned about Waco being back where it was in the 80s when it's over. What works against that concern is the demographics are still the same countering that however is whether everyone comes out with jobs and disposable income still to spend at places.
I forgot the key word in that sentence. I agree. I pull for all restaurants during this time.
Restaurants, nationally, are in trouble. I'm seeing estimates of 15 to 20% to close permanently.
I personally wonder if remaining just curbside is the better business move rather than try to run at 25% capacity in house dining.
I am going to miss Old Chicago.
Very few Italian places left in Waco.
Location was great and food wasn't bad at all.
They had some kick ass bar food such as Italian Nachos.
Very few Italian places left in Waco.
Location was great and food wasn't bad at all.
They had some kick ass bar food such as Italian Nachos.
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I drove by Logan's a couple days ago and it looked packed. I thought I had remembered hearing that it closed somewhere. Guess here is where.
Looking it up now, it appears to be open. There are reviews from this week on Google for the Waco location and they are listed on their website.
Looking it up now, it appears to be open. There are reviews from this week on Google for the Waco location and they are listed on their website.
Yogi said:
I am going to miss Old Chicago.
Very few Italian places left in Waco.
Location was great and food wasn't bad at all.
They had some kick ass bar food such as Italian Nachos.
Old Chicago.... Italian food? Bro...
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