appreciate you posting these here grayson

Any news on this front. Just got skillings but long way to go of course.

NEWS: since re-opening his recruitment, Duke Miles has heard from the following schools & has planned 4 visits, he tells @TheAthleticCBB

Texas A&M(visit 4/15-4/16)
Penn State (Visit 4/17)
Baylor ( Tentative Visit for 4/18 )
USC (Tentative Visit for 4/21-4/22)
Creighton… pic.twitter.com/eUYGnKAPHR

— Tobias Bass (@tobias_bass) April 15, 2025

NIL fell thru??

another 1 year?

dude we gotta rebuild a whole roster. we got a few multi years so id be fine with it

Bearsalwayswin said:

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dude we gotta rebuild a whole roster. we got a few multi years so id be fine with it

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Carr and Bodo Bodo are the only mutli-year guys so far. Everyone else is a one-year transfer.

23 years old and will be 24 by the time the next tournament rolls around. You would think he will bring some maturity/leadership to whichever school he ends up at.

contrario said:

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23 years old and will be 24 by the time the next tournament rolls around. You would think he will bring some maturity/leadership to whichever school he ends up at.

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I hope we get him, but he's got a lot of visits set up. He's definitely doing his due diligence.

bear2be2 said:

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contrario said:

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23 years old and will be 24 by the time the next tournament rolls around. You would think he will bring some maturity/leadership to whichever school he ends up at.

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I hope we get him, but he's got a lot of visits set up. He's definitely doing his due diligence.

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If we want him we can't let him leave without signing. You don't let a guy you want take other visits.

IvanBear said:

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bear2be2 said:

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contrario said:

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23 years old and will be 24 by the time the next tournament rolls around. You would think he will bring some maturity/leadership to whichever school he ends up at.

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I hope we get him, but he's got a lot of visits set up. He's definitely doing his due diligence.

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If we want him we can't let him leave without signing. You don't let a guy you want take other visits.

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Sign him? You mean Pay him. That's where we are.

IvanBear said:

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bear2be2 said:

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contrario said:

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23 years old and will be 24 by the time the next tournament rolls around. You would think he will bring some maturity/leadership to whichever school he ends up at.

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I hope we get him, but he's got a lot of visits set up. He's definitely doing his due diligence.

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If we want him we can't let him leave without signing. You don't let a guy you want take other visits.

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We're not his first visit. I think we're like his third.

That's why I'm not super optimistic. But I hope he surprises me.

Drew has an incredible track record at signing transfers when they get to come on campus. He also has a lot to sell to be the primary PG on a team with some great pieces, but that needs a PG that can put up some points [our PG and Obi probably need to be the top two scorers on this team]. With our RWIII-allocated money basically in the bag [It seems to me the other new guys would have fit in original RWIII-included budget], I think you have to like our chances if we get him here on campus, unless there's another school willing to pay him a stupid amount of money they did RWIII. There's no competing with that kind of lunacy.

Ewalker80 said:

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Drew has an incredible track record at signing transfers when they get to come on campus. He also has a lot to sell to be the primary PG on a team with some great pieces, but that needs a PG that can put up some points [our PG and Obi probably need to be the top two scorers on this team]. With our RWIII-allocated money basically in the bag [It seems to me the other new guys would have fit in original RWIII-included budget], I think you have to like our chances if we get him here on campus, unless there's another school willing to pay him a stupid amount of money they did RWIII. There's no competing with that kind of lunacy.

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I think Rataj and Agbim will be our leading scorers. But White is a really efficient scorer, too.

If we can get one more competent point or combo guard, our guard group should be really solid. And we'll have enough true wing options this year that we won't need more than two small guards on the floor at a time unless we want to go small as a matchup choice.

With the newly created depth Baylor MBB will likely switch from being one of the slowest pace teams in D1 to one of the fastest pace teams in D1 [last season at 287th in D1 (only Houston & WV were slower in B12)]. Those extra 8-10 possessions per game will allow for multiple players to shoot 6-10 shots per game. Reasonably expect those extra shots to land mostly on scorers 3-7 rather than on scorers 1-2. The scoring could easily be the most balanced it has been in years and it was already very balanced.

As an added plus, more shots = happier players. Everyone loves to shoot the ball.

Adriacus Peratuun said:

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With the newly created depth Baylor MBB will likely switch from being one of the slowest pace teams in D1 to one of the fastest pace teams in D1 [last season at 287th in D1 (only Houston & WV were slower in B12)]. Those extra 8-10 possessions per game will allow for multiple players to shoot 6-10 shots per game. Reasonably expect those extra shots to land mostly on scorers 3-7 rather than on scorers 1-2. The scoring could easily be the most balanced it has been in years and it was already very balanced.

As an added plus, more shots = happier players. Everyone loves to shoot the ball.

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I'll be interested to see if our pace changes. Drew has pretty consistently run deliberate offenses in the modern era.

I think our extra shots are more likely to come from a better showing on the offensive glass than they are a change in offensive tempo. But your point still holds. More shots means more opportunities to go around.

bear2be2 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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With the newly created depth Baylor MBB will likely switch from being one of the slowest pace teams in D1 to one of the fastest pace teams in D1 [last season at 287th in D1 (only Houston & WV were slower in B12)]. Those extra 8-10 possessions per game will allow for multiple players to shoot 6-10 shots per game. Reasonably expect those extra shots to land mostly on scorers 3-7 rather than on scorers 1-2. The scoring could easily be the most balanced it has been in years and it was already very balanced.

As an added plus, more shots = happier players. Everyone loves to shoot the ball.

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I'll be interested to see if our pace changes. Drew has pretty consistently run deliberate offenses in the modern era.

I think our extra shots are more likely to come from a better showing on the offensive glass than they are a change in offensive tempo. But your point still holds. More shots means more opportunities to go around.

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NC team was #182 in pace. Last season #287.

It is hard for any team (except UCF) to be Top 25 in pace when facing UH, WVU, etc. routinely.
Those snails POP could more easily be measured with a calendar.
Kansas is a decent "go by" to see that effect.
3 year average: 77.8
Kansas last year including non-con: 74.1
Kansas in conference 71.7

That said, take the Unbelievably Slow teams out of the picture and the trend is to add at least 3-4 possessions per game: ISU, Arizona, UCF, etc.

For Baylor, we will know quickly…..the slow walk up to start the dribble weave at 17-18ish on the shot clock was fairly predictable. A change in POP will only take about 3-4 possessions to be apparent.

Adriacus Peratuun said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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With the newly created depth Baylor MBB will likely switch from being one of the slowest pace teams in D1 to one of the fastest pace teams in D1 [last season at 287th in D1 (only Houston & WV were slower in B12)]. Those extra 8-10 possessions per game will allow for multiple players to shoot 6-10 shots per game. Reasonably expect those extra shots to land mostly on scorers 3-7 rather than on scorers 1-2. The scoring could easily be the most balanced it has been in years and it was already very balanced.

As an added plus, more shots = happier players. Everyone loves to shoot the ball.

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I'll be interested to see if our pace changes. Drew has pretty consistently run deliberate offenses in the modern era.

I think our extra shots are more likely to come from a better showing on the offensive glass than they are a change in offensive tempo. But your point still holds. More shots means more opportunities to go around.

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NC team was #182 in pace. Last season #287.

It is hard for any team (except UCF) to be Top 25 in pace when facing UH, WVU, etc. routinely.
Those snails POP could more easily be measured with a calendar.
Kansas is a decent "go by" to see that effect.
3 year average: 77.8
Kansas last year including non-con: 74.1
Kansas in conference 71.7

That said, take the Unbelievably Slow teams out of the picture and the trend is to add at least 3-4 possessions per game: ISU, Arizona, UCF, etc.

For Baylor, we will know quickly…..the slow walk up to start the dribble weave at 17-18ish on the shot clock was fairly predictable. A change in POP will only take about 3-4 possessions to be apparent.

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A lot will depend on the rotation. If we have an 8-man rotation you can afford a faster offense, a six man and you are walking up to protect a lead, save energy, take time off the clock. As is, I don't see the adequate rotation.

TWD 1974 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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With the newly created depth Baylor MBB will likely switch from being one of the slowest pace teams in D1 to one of the fastest pace teams in D1 [last season at 287th in D1 (only Houston & WV were slower in B12)]. Those extra 8-10 possessions per game will allow for multiple players to shoot 6-10 shots per game. Reasonably expect those extra shots to land mostly on scorers 3-7 rather than on scorers 1-2. The scoring could easily be the most balanced it has been in years and it was already very balanced.

As an added plus, more shots = happier players. Everyone loves to shoot the ball.

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I'll be interested to see if our pace changes. Drew has pretty consistently run deliberate offenses in the modern era.

I think our extra shots are more likely to come from a better showing on the offensive glass than they are a change in offensive tempo. But your point still holds. More shots means more opportunities to go around.

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NC team was #182 in pace. Last season #287.

It is hard for any team (except UCF) to be Top 25 in pace when facing UH, WVU, etc. routinely.
Those snails POP could more easily be measured with a calendar.
Kansas is a decent "go by" to see that effect.
3 year average: 77.8
Kansas last year including non-con: 74.1
Kansas in conference 71.7

That said, take the Unbelievably Slow teams out of the picture and the trend is to add at least 3-4 possessions per game: ISU, Arizona, UCF, etc.

For Baylor, we will know quickly…..the slow walk up to start the dribble weave at 17-18ish on the shot clock was fairly predictable. A change in POP will only take about 3-4 possessions to be apparent.

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A lot will depend on the rotation. If we have an 8-man rotation you can afford a faster offense, a six man and you are walking up to protect a lead, save energy, take time off the clock. As is, I don't see the adequate rotation.

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Hasn't the entire current roster build philosophy been about reaching a UH/BYU level of rotation size [regular season not postseason]?

Adriacus Peratuun said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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With the newly created depth Baylor MBB will likely switch from being one of the slowest pace teams in D1 to one of the fastest pace teams in D1 [last season at 287th in D1 (only Houston & WV were slower in B12)]. Those extra 8-10 possessions per game will allow for multiple players to shoot 6-10 shots per game. Reasonably expect those extra shots to land mostly on scorers 3-7 rather than on scorers 1-2. The scoring could easily be the most balanced it has been in years and it was already very balanced.

As an added plus, more shots = happier players. Everyone loves to shoot the ball.

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I'll be interested to see if our pace changes. Drew has pretty consistently run deliberate offenses in the modern era.

I think our extra shots are more likely to come from a better showing on the offensive glass than they are a change in offensive tempo. But your point still holds. More shots means more opportunities to go around.

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NC team was #182 in pace. Last season #287.

It is hard for any team (except UCF) to be Top 25 in pace when facing UH, WVU, etc. routinely.
Those snails POP could more easily be measured with a calendar.
Kansas is a decent "go by" to see that effect.
3 year average: 77.8
Kansas last year including non-con: 74.1
Kansas in conference 71.7

That said, take the Unbelievably Slow teams out of the picture and the trend is to add at least 3-4 possessions per game: ISU, Arizona, UCF, etc.

For Baylor, we will know quickly…..the slow walk up to start the dribble weave at 17-18ish on the shot clock was fairly predictable. A change in POP will only take about 3-4 possessions to be apparent.

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OK, I see what you're saying. We can probably climb into the top 200 in offensive tempo, but I don't ever see us breaking the top 150. Our offense just does a lot of probing by its nature, and that takes time.

Drew's teams are usually in the 200s, so I think we'll probably end up there. But I would expect us to play a little faster than we have the last couple of years when we were 282 and 328.

I love duke's efficiency numbers. If he can run the pick and roll well with his former teammate Bodo Bodo and hit open threes that is plenty of tools to make this offense work I would think. Obi can create his own shot when needed and they should get a ton of offensive rebounds. That's a pretty good formula.

Ewalker80 said:

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I love duke's efficiency numbers. If he can run the pick and roll well with his former teammate Bodo Bodo and hit open threes that is plenty of tools to make this offense work I would think. Obi can create his own shot when needed and they should get a ton of offensive rebounds. That's a pretty good formula.

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One thing I really like about the guards that we're adding is all can knock down the 3-ball with some consistency.

• Agbim was a 43.7 percent 3-point shooter on 6.3 attempts per game last year in his only Division I season to date.
• White was a 44.2 percent 3-pointer shooter on 4.4 attempts per game last year and is a 38.3 percent shooter from deep for his career.
• And Miles (if we get him) is a 35.3 percent 30-point shooter for his career, but in two of the last three seasons, including last year at OU, he shot the 3-ball at 43 percent or better and he was at a solid 36 percent in between.

We have directly addressed a fairly major weakness from last year, and that doesn't even include the wing players and Rataj, who are also perimeter threats.

On paper, this is shaping up to be a much better and more complete team than we fielded last year certainly. And it could be the best we've had since 2022 if everything goes as planned.