Saunders out for the season. Wish I felt sorry for them… but nah **** BYU. Couldn't have happened to a more deserving bunch
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IowaBear said:
Saunders out for the season. Wish I felt sorry for them… but nah **** BYU. Couldn't have happened to a more deserving bunch
Never want this to happen to a player, Lord knows we've had our share lately... but I have to wonder if somebody from Utah is texting, "Hey, Luka, want to go to College for a couple of months?"
“No eye has seen, no ear has heard, and no mind has imagined what God has prepared for those who love Him.” 1 Corinthians 2:9
Karma for the Kingston situation
I ain't quite as dumb as I seem
-- (P.C. 1974)
-- (P.C. 1974)
I just can't imagine what this would be like...
The trajectory of this BYU Men’s Hoops season has and will be greatly affected by season-ending injuries.
— Jarom Jordan (@jaromjordan) February 15, 2026
Richie Saunders (ACL)
Dawson Baker (ACL)
Brody Kozlowski (foot)
Nate Pickens (ankle)
These players would have all been part of an 8-9 man rotation.
Add to that Keba…
The impact of this on Rob and Dybantsa is gonna be interesting. Dybantsa is as impressive of a freshman as I've seen in terms of overall quality of play and that was in the face of double teams in most situations. Now, due to lack of offensive output at the other 3 positions, he's gonna face triple teams. Rob, meanwhile, will likely see some double teams he has never seen before and Saunders was always Rob's bailout guy when Rob did his usual mistake of picking the ball up too soon. Davis and Keita are pretty much worthless when it comes to spacing and ball movement, while Saunders was like a waterbug racing all over the court until ultimately getting open for Rob to connect with a pass.
And Saunders was the undeniable glue guy with physical play, ability to get to the basket and just an overall ball hawk who had incredible instincts of where missed shots were going.
Gonna be interesting to see how it ends for BYU with Iowa St, Arizona and Tech still on their schedule and a 7-5 conference record right now.
And Saunders was the undeniable glue guy with physical play, ability to get to the basket and just an overall ball hawk who had incredible instincts of where missed shots were going.
Gonna be interesting to see how it ends for BYU with Iowa St, Arizona and Tech still on their schedule and a 7-5 conference record right now.
Screw BYU. Wright will put his talents up for bid the day his season is over, or sooner. Somebody will give the little turd $5 million. What goes around comes around. I wish him, and BYU, nothing but the worst.
And it has nothing to do with religion. It's about walking the walk. If BYU loses Wright, it will find another player to poach.
It's time for Baylor to find some our killer plaintiffs lawyers and be known as a university that will write and enforce contracts.
It's time for Baylor to find some our killer plaintiffs lawyers and be known as a university that will write and enforce contracts.
Baylor should sue BYU & Wright for millions.
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
Psalm 119:36
historian said:
Baylor should sue BYU & Wright for millions.
Should have. Someone has to.
BYU drops to 8-8 in conference with a loss to WVU today
boognish_bear said:
BYU drops to 8-8 in conference with a loss to WVU today
Horrible ROI. You hate to see it.
Rob had a great offensive game today...but on defense he was repeatedly getting blown past on the perimeter...like not even close.
Hotsauce said:boognish_bear said:
BYU drops to 8-8 in conference with a loss to WVU today
Horrible ROI. You hate to see it.
I've said this for years and years, but BYU will never win big in the Big 12 or the tournament until the learn to defend. This team is better on that end than some that they've had, but they'll still likely finish the regular season outside of the top 50 in adjusted defensive efficiency.
BYU has always been more sizzle than steak -- and this year's group may be the best example of that yet.
boognish_bear said:
Rob had a great offensive game today...but on defense he was repeatedly getting blown past on the perimeter...like not even close.
He's not getting $3.5 million on his d. When we were building a team with the idea of him running it, we were counting on outscoring rather than shutting down the other team.
“No eye has seen, no ear has heard, and no mind has imagined what God has prepared for those who love Him.” 1 Corinthians 2:9
TWD 1974 said:boognish_bear said:
Rob had a great offensive game today...but on defense he was repeatedly getting blown past on the perimeter...like not even close.
He's not getting $3.5 million on his d. When we were building a team with the idea of him running it, we were counting on outscoring rather than shutting down the other team.
It's just strange to see someone look so quick on one end of the floor and not on the other end.
This happened multiple times yesterday
Maybe the laziest defense I’ve ever seen. Pathetic. pic.twitter.com/uDi8QTT9Nh
— Karter Baughan (@karterb8) March 1, 2026
Rob Wright is incredibly overrated both nationally and by the Baylor fanbase. BYU is finding out the hard way what those who paid attention already knew.
He's a really good offensive player, but he's a total dog on defense, and he's just generally kind of soft.IowaBear said:
Rob Wright is incredibly overrated both nationally and by the Baylor fanbase. BYU is finding out the hard way what those who paid attention already knew.
He's like a lot of these five-star guys who have been coddled too long and surrounded by people who think he hung the moon.
That said, he would have helped this team tremendously, so let's not go full cope and pretend he wouldn't have. This would have been a tournament team with Wright at point guard.
boognish_bear said:TWD 1974 said:boognish_bear said:
Rob had a great offensive game today...but on defense he was repeatedly getting blown past on the perimeter...like not even close.
He's not getting $3.5 million on his d. When we were building a team with the idea of him running it, we were counting on outscoring rather than shutting down the other team.
It's just strange to see someone look so quick on one end of the floor and not on the other end.
Wilt Chamberlain was the most physically dominant player I ever saw, no one could guard him, and he could stop anyone he had a mind to stop on the defensive end. That said, you could score inside on him because he never guarded the lane, ever. Defense has everything to do with want to, and a willingness to commit your body to it.
“No eye has seen, no ear has heard, and no mind has imagined what God has prepared for those who love Him.” 1 Corinthians 2:9
Will have to disagree there. I'm not convinced it's a tournament team with Wright. The defense is grade A ass without Wright. With him it would be quite literally one of the worst in the country. Baylor was 20-15 last year with Wright on the team. And that team was much more talented than this one.
This team would be elite offensively with a good point guard. We'd look a lot like the 2023 or 2024 teams and would score our way to the round of 32 before bowing out there because we don't play good enough defense.IowaBear said:
Will have to disagree there. I'm not convinced it's a tournament team with Wright. The defense is grade A ass without Wright. With him it would be quite literally one of the worst in the country. Baylor was 20-15 last year with Wright on the team. And that team was much more talented than this one.
A starting lineup of Wright, Agbim, Carr, Yessoufou and Powell with Williams and Skillings off the bench would score like crazy because you'd always have someone on the floor who can break the defense down off the dribble, which is the biggest key to success for Scott Drew's offense.
And Wright is a much better player now than he was as a freshman, and Williams would be a much better backup point guard than Roach was, so comparisons to last year's team are kind of a waste of time.
I wouldn't be surprised to see Wright enter the portal again and try to get another bag from someone.
IowaBear said:
Will have to disagree there. I'm not convinced it's a tournament team with Wright. The defense is grade A ass without Wright. With him it would be quite literally one of the worst in the country. Baylor was 20-15 last year with Wright on the team. And that team was much more talented than this one.
Could having Wright have helped us to 2-3 conference wins? It's possible. We were a borderline tournament team at best even with Wright. The roster discard was largely a bust, It looks to me a number of coaching staffs who have had long careers recruiting and researching prospects in a multi-year process, are having trouble making winning decisions on portal talent with almost zero time at all to research. Maybe a silver lining of not making the tournament this year gives staff a couple of weeks to secure next seasons roster, though if they win out in 4 in KC nobody is turning down an auto bid.
“No eye has seen, no ear has heard, and no mind has imagined what God has prepared for those who love Him.” 1 Corinthians 2:9
No way. He went to BYU to learn how to play the game the way the NBA plays it, and there'$ no other valid rea$on he would ever tran$fer anywhere el$e.EvilTroyAndAbed said:
I wouldn't be surprised to see Wright enter the portal again and try to get another bag from someone.
BYU clearly has the market cornered on getting guys into the Association.
Mitch Henessey said:EvilTroyAndAbed said:
I wouldn't be surprised to see Wright enter the portal again and try to get another bag from someone.
No way. He went to BYU to learn how to play the game the way the NBA plays it, and there'$ no other valid rea$on he would ever tran$fer anywhere el$e.
BYU clearly has the market cornered on getting guys into the Association.
seriously? Demin was the 8th. overall pick last year, BYU's first rounder prior to that was Fredette in 2011. Dybantsa will land at the top of the draft but he was headed there wherever he played this year. As of now we look to have twice the players going first round of BYU. Finally, if they were picking them for the NBA pull, you think they might have saved a little on the $7.5mm it took to get them? Wright left town for the money, and because Daddy wanted better for his kid, which also meant more money...
“No eye has seen, no ear has heard, and no mind has imagined what God has prepared for those who love Him.” 1 Corinthians 2:9
TWD 1974 said:IowaBear said:
Will have to disagree there. I'm not convinced it's a tournament team with Wright. The defense is grade A ass without Wright. With him it would be quite literally one of the worst in the country. Baylor was 20-15 last year with Wright on the team. And that team was much more talented than this one.
Could having Wright have helped us to 2-3 conference wins? It's possible. We were a borderline tournament team at best even with Wright. The roster discard was largely a bust, It looks to me a number of coaching staffs who have had long careers recruiting and researching prospects in a multi-year process, are having trouble making winning decisions on portal talent with almost zero time at all to research. Maybe a silver lining of not making the tournament this year gives staff a couple of weeks to secure next seasons roster, though if they win out in 4 in KC nobody is turning down an auto bid.
Why are people acting like Wright as a freshman was anywhere close to as good as the current version and playing silly transitive property games based on last year's version?
Wright is worlds better this season than he was last year. And that same improvement for us would make us a way better team than we are. A) We'd have two point guards, both of whom can do what Scott Drew's offense asks its point guard to do. And B) We'd be adding one of the best offensive players in the Big 12 to a lineup that already has Carr and Yessoufou and what would be a much better version of Agbim if he was playing his natural position all the time.
TWD 1974 said:Mitch Henessey said:EvilTroyAndAbed said:
I wouldn't be surprised to see Wright enter the portal again and try to get another bag from someone.
No way. He went to BYU to learn how to play the game the way the NBA plays it, and there'$ no other valid rea$on he would ever tran$fer anywhere el$e.
BYU clearly has the market cornered on getting guys into the Association.
seriously? Demin was the 8th. overall pick last year, BYU's first rounder prior to that was Fredette in 2011. Dybantsa will land at the top of the draft but he was headed there wherever he played this year. As of now we look to have twice the players going first round of BYU. Finally, if they were picking them for the NBA pull, you think they might have saved a little on the $7.5mm it took to get them? Wright left town for the money, and because Daddy wanted better for his kid, which also meant more money...
That was the reason Wright's camp gave for him transferring from Baylor to BYU. Mitch's use of the dollar signs are his way of poking fun at the ridiculousness of that justification.
Wright went to BYU for the money, obviously. And they tampered to get him there, obviously.
bear2be2 said:TWD 1974 said:Mitch Henessey said:EvilTroyAndAbed said:
I wouldn't be surprised to see Wright enter the portal again and try to get another bag from someone.
No way. He went to BYU to learn how to play the game the way the NBA plays it, and there'$ no other valid rea$on he would ever tran$fer anywhere el$e.
BYU clearly has the market cornered on getting guys into the Association.
seriously? Demin was the 8th. overall pick last year, BYU's first rounder prior to that was Fredette in 2011. Dybantsa will land at the top of the draft but he was headed there wherever he played this year. As of now we look to have twice the players going first round of BYU. Finally, if they were picking them for the NBA pull, you think they might have saved a little on the $7.5mm it took to get them? Wright left town for the money, and because Daddy wanted better for his kid, which also meant more money...
That was the reason Wright's camp gave for him transferring from Baylor to BYU. Mitch's use of the dollar signs are his way of poking fun at the ridiculousness of that justification.
Wright went to BYU for the money, obviously. And they tampered to get him there, obviously.
Ah, my bad. My AI isn't up on recognizing sarcasm.
“No eye has seen, no ear has heard, and no mind has imagined what God has prepared for those who love Him.” 1 Corinthians 2:9
bear2be2 said:TWD 1974 said:IowaBear said:
Will have to disagree there. I'm not convinced it's a tournament team with Wright. The defense is grade A ass without Wright. With him it would be quite literally one of the worst in the country. Baylor was 20-15 last year with Wright on the team. And that team was much more talented than this one.
Could having Wright have helped us to 2-3 conference wins? It's possible. We were a borderline tournament team at best even with Wright. The roster discard was largely a bust, It looks to me a number of coaching staffs who have had long careers recruiting and researching prospects in a multi-year process, are having trouble making winning decisions on portal talent with almost zero time at all to research. Maybe a silver lining of not making the tournament this year gives staff a couple of weeks to secure next seasons roster, though if they win out in 4 in KC nobody is turning down an auto bid.
Why are people acting like Wright as a freshman was anywhere close to as good as the current version and playing silly transitive property games based on last year's version?
Wright is worlds better this season than he was last year. And that same improvement for us would make us a way better team than we are. A) We'd have two point guards, both of whom can do what Scott Drew's offense asks its point guard to do. And B) We'd be adding one of the best offensive players in the Big 12 to a lineup that already has Carr and Yessoufou and what would be a much better version of Agbim if he was playing his natural position all the time.
I agree we would be better with Wright, either the 2025 or 26 model. Having him would still leave us battling for 6th or 7th. place in conference. We were deeply injured by the loss of Wright, but the injuries and the underperformance in our front court was the fatal wound.
“No eye has seen, no ear has heard, and no mind has imagined what God has prepared for those who love Him.” 1 Corinthians 2:9
I think with Wright we would have been a lot like our 2023 or 2024 team. And while those teams had frustrating deficiencies -- most on the defensive end -- they were worlds better than the product we're currently watching.TWD 1974 said:bear2be2 said:TWD 1974 said:IowaBear said:
Will have to disagree there. I'm not convinced it's a tournament team with Wright. The defense is grade A ass without Wright. With him it would be quite literally one of the worst in the country. Baylor was 20-15 last year with Wright on the team. And that team was much more talented than this one.
Could having Wright have helped us to 2-3 conference wins? It's possible. We were a borderline tournament team at best even with Wright. The roster discard was largely a bust, It looks to me a number of coaching staffs who have had long careers recruiting and researching prospects in a multi-year process, are having trouble making winning decisions on portal talent with almost zero time at all to research. Maybe a silver lining of not making the tournament this year gives staff a couple of weeks to secure next seasons roster, though if they win out in 4 in KC nobody is turning down an auto bid.
Why are people acting like Wright as a freshman was anywhere close to as good as the current version and playing silly transitive property games based on last year's version?
Wright is worlds better this season than he was last year. And that same improvement for us would make us a way better team than we are. A) We'd have two point guards, both of whom can do what Scott Drew's offense asks its point guard to do. And B) We'd be adding one of the best offensive players in the Big 12 to a lineup that already has Carr and Yessoufou and what would be a much better version of Agbim if he was playing his natural position all the time.
I agree we would be better with Wright, either the 2025 or 26 model. Having him would still leave us battling for 6th or 7th. place in conference. We were deeply injured by the loss of Wright, but the injuries and the underperformance in our front court was the fatal wound.
Wright and Carr on the same court would have been deadly on the offensive end. And his presence would have made Agbim a better player and allowed Yessoufou to focus on the things he does really well.
We would have still sucked defensively, be we would have outscored a lot of the teams we've lost to.
All I can say is as disheartening and disappointing of a year as it has been for me given our struggles, one of the few bright lights of my college basketball viewing has come from watching BYU, its overly hair product laden smarmy coach and fanbase who was convinced and vocally loud all they had to do is buy a team to win the Big 12 all fall flat on their faces as BYU is potentially ending with a losing Big 12 record and hopefully a 10th place finish.
Defense counts.
Defense counts.