Texas Tech's JT Toppin has torn ACL, out for season

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TWD 1974
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Just saw this, huge blow to Tech. They looked to be geared up for a deep run in the tournament. How many season enders in the Big 12 this year?
“No eye has seen, no ear has heard, and no mind has imagined what God has prepared for those who love Him.” 1 Corinthians 2:9
IowaBear
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That's a back breaker for them. Without him they're just average.
TXBEAR_bf
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Feel bad for him. That just sucks. Saunders for BYU and now this injury. I would almost rather be in our situation and stink than have high expectations and have them crash at the end of the year before the tourney starts.
Hopefully we can stay healthy next year and make some sort of run. March madness is going to lose appeal for me this year with the state of men's and women's programs.
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Johnny Bear
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IowaBear said:

That's a back breaker for them. Without him they're just average.

They're prolly still better than "average" but yeah - obviously a huge blow.
IowaBear
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Hard disagree. He's by FAR they're most important player. They're a middle of the league team without him. I haven't looked at their schedule down the stretch. Maybe it's easy. But I expect they'll stack some L's
TWD 1974
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IowaBear said:

Hard disagree. He's by FAR they're most important player. They're a middle of the league team without him. I haven't looked at their schedule down the stretch. Maybe it's easy. But I expect they'll stack some L's

I thought Norchad played well for us last year, but I thought landing Toppin was the best move TTU has made in the last couple of years. Some bigs just make your team a lot better. Toppin was heading to a POY in my view.
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Johnny Bear
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IowaBear said:

Hard disagree. He's by FAR they're most important player. They're a middle of the league team without him. I haven't looked at their schedule down the stretch. Maybe it's easy. But I expect they'll stack some L's

Again, no question it's a huge impactful injury and it may well make them a middlin B12 team - but even a legit midddlin B12 team is better than average in the big picture.
IowaBear
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Again, disagree.. but guess what? That's OK
Big12Fan2024
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TWD 1974 said:

IowaBear said:

Hard disagree. He's by FAR they're most important player. They're a middle of the league team without him. I haven't looked at their schedule down the stretch. Maybe it's easy. But I expect they'll stack some L's

I thought Norchad played well for us last year, but I thought landing Toppin was the best move TTU has made in the last couple of years. Some bigs just make your team a lot better. Toppin was heading to a POY in my view.


And the guy, even before the injury, had pretty much indicated he was coming back to Lubbock next year for his senior year.

JB, you and I are usually on the same page but I kind feel like Iowa on this one. I'm gonna be surprised to see Tech get past the 1st weekend.

The tournament is all about matchups so you never know, but it reminds me of us in 2021-22 when Jonathan went down. Once we had no threat in the middle rebounding or even scoring (sorry Flo, but he wasn't much of a threat on offense or defense in that game), UNC just pressured Flagler and Akinjo into 22% from 3 and 35% overall, just like teams will now start doing to Christian Anderson, Petty and Atwell. And defensively Toppin was as big a part of Tech's D as Jonathan was for us.

Tech may get lucky in its draw, but we didn't as we ended up with UNC, which was an awful matchup because they were a big team with Bacot dominating us with 16 rebounds and 15 points, Brady Manek (6'9") driving easily to the basket and RJ Davis filling it up from the outside. Flo ended up with 0 points and 5 rebounds.

I think McCasland is easily one of the best coaches in the conference so I know he won't go down without a fight. But I think it's gonna be a difficult fight after that first game.
Mitch Blood Green
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That's horrible. He's a player.
Johnny Bear
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IowaBear said:

Again, disagree.. but guess what? That's OK

I agree!
Stefano DiMera
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I would not want to face a Grant McCasland coached team as a favorite.

I'll just leave this here.
canoso
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Let's see......TT scores 100, beats KU by 21.

Without Toppin.
Delmar 2.0
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canoso said:

Let's see......TT scores 100, beats KU by 21.

Without Toppin.

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Big12Fan2024
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Ok, JB. I take back everything I said!!!!!! Grant figured out how to get it done even with injuries. He is such a friggin' good coach.
boognish_bear
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Big12Fan2024 said:

Ok, JB. I take back everything I said!!!!!! Grant figured out how to get it done even with injuries. He is such a friggin' good coach.


I've been really impressed how they've responded. Didn't see them winning in Ames today.
Big12Fan2024
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boognish_bear said:

Big12Fan2024 said:

Ok, JB. I take back everything I said!!!!!! Grant figured out how to get it done even with injuries. He is such a friggin' good coach.


I've been really impressed how they've responded. Didn't see them winning in Ames today.


I thought they might get blown out in Ames. Very impressive.

A couple of years ago I was told by two people around the athletic department for whom I have great trust and they said McCasland and Jakus were head and shoulders above any other assistants who have come through here from an X's and O's perspective and since there have been quite a few really good assistants come through that is quite a compliment.
Stefano DiMera
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Told y'all.

If you think Tech is gonna crumble and just not show up for the Big Dance you're crazy.

Similar to Indiana and Boston in the NBA.

They both lose their star player in the playoffs last year. Everyone assumes they'll both suck.

Indiana who made the Finals has the worst record in the league. Boston is chasing Detroit for #1 seed because Mazulla is a damn good coach and has got that team a culture and identity like McCasland.
Big12Fan2024
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Not so fast my friend!

TCU goes into Lubbock and beats Tech.

TCU pretty much guarantees its ticket at the dance.

Good job this year by Jamie Dixon with a very, very, very average talent team.

IowaBear
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TCU was HEAVILY aided by the conference schedule being so unbalanced. Go look at who they drew as home & home opponents.
Big12Fan2024
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IowaBear said:

TCU was HEAVILY aided by the conference schedule being so unbalanced. Go look at who they drew as home & home opponents.


3 wins against Top 10 opponents. We can pooh pooh all we want, but TCU and Dixon had a good year.
IowaBear
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Doesn't change the fact that they were essentially gifted 3 freebies by getting teams as bad or worse than BU multiple times
Big12Fan2024
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IowaBear said:

Doesn't change the fact that they were essentially gifted 3 freebies by getting teams as bad or worse than BU multiple times

And how many future 1st round level NBA pics did they have on their roster?
IowaBear
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What does that matter? If anything that's a diss on Drew for underachieving. Both can be true here… TCU has some very nice wins. And TCU also had one of if not the easiest B12 slate
Big12Fan2024
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IowaBear said:

What does that matter? If anything that's a diss on Drew for underachieving. Both can be true here… TCU has some very nice wins. And TCU also had one of if not the easiest B12 slate

Dude. We played them twice and they beat us twice. Just shut up. You sound silly. Not to mention they beat Florida, they beat your Iowa State boys and now they won at Tech. That's solid in any book.
IowaBear
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Beating Baylor is impressive? You're moving goalposts for what reason?
Big12Fan2024
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IowaBear said:

Beating Baylor is impressive? You're moving goalposts for what reason?

Florida is not any good? Your boys in Ames aren't in good? Texas Tech isn't any good? Again, you're picking strange ways to try and prove TCU isn't any good.
IowaBear
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Where did I say those teams weren't any good!? Never happened. You're pissed for no reason at all. Like I said BOTH can be true. TCU has nice wins. They also got the benefit of doubling up on the leagues bottom feeders. There's quite literally no reason to freak out. Your attempts to offend me are lame. You've called my opinions silly hundreds of times. Didn't offend me the 1st time. Doesn't offend me today.
Big12Fan2024
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IowaBear said:

Where did I say those teams weren't any good!? Never happened. You're pissed for no reason at all. Like I said BOTH can be true. TCU has nice wins. They also got the benefit of doubling up on the leagues bottom feeders. There's quite literally no reason to freak out. Your attempts to offend me are lame. You've called my opinions silly hundreds of times. Didn't offend me the 1st time. Doesn't offend me today.

Show me the number of teams who have 3 or more Top 10 wins? Hint: they are only 8.

You're the one flapping your gums implying they didn't have a good year. You came after me, not vice versa.
IowaBear
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I came after you for pointing out their schedule was the lightest in the B12? That's coming after you?! Quite literally was just engaging in discussion. Lesson learned on my end. Also never said TCU didn't have a good year. But carry on making **** up.
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