Familiar name if job opens on UNC list...

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Stefano DiMera
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If North Carolina basketball fires Hubert Davis, here's where it could turn next, including a few coaches with national titles on their resume.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/2026/03/23/unc-basketball-coaching-candidates-if-north-carolina-fires-hubert-davis/89283254007/
Danielsjackson114
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Please, let this be. It is time for a complete shift in Baylor Athletics

No more charmin softness in our athletics
EvilTroyAndAbed
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UNC has to make a splash hire. Drew's not hot right now. I don't disagree that he may never reach the same heights again with Baylor and maybe a restart for him would be good (I disagree. I want him here), I would assume Drew's name is down the list. A number of people would have to turn UNC down first.
Bearsalwayswin
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yawn
BluesBear
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Not even a whisper on the UNC boards regarding Drew. Drew ruined his own chances by not making the Tournament - what a story he could have had getting a team to the Round of 32 or even 16 with a brand new roster....now that would have turned some heads..
Big12Fan2024
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Scott is at that stage of his career where his name will be mentioned by national media in any Top 25 head coaching opportunities because: 1) he's earned it with his career resume; 2) he is known as having solid character; and, 3) it is perceived to be a lot easier to win another natty at UNC (or a lot of other Top 25 programs) in the current environment given stronger NIL, resources and overall brand so the media will always assume he would consider other offers..

Having said that, I also think Scott would not be a good fit in most UNC fans' mind because his strength is more on the recruiting side and they need more of a hardcore X's and O's guy. In fact, I haven't seen his name listed in Top 10 lists from any UNC related sites of credibility.
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Danielsjackson114 said:

Please, let this be. It is time for a complete shift in Baylor Athletics

No more charmin softness in our athletics

If anyone thinks Scott Drew is soft or has made our program soft, then you are being willfully ignorant of large swathes of his career at Baylor. The program needs to make some change, and Scott Drew needs to make some changes for sure, but it's not because he's soft or builds a soft program. Look at how many winning teams we have had where a large portion of our success was due to the physicality of the team.

If you want Drew gone because you think he can't operate in the current space of college basketball or doesn't have the touch to build the right roster or coaching staff anymore, then fine. You're entitled to that opinion. But we have got to stop being prisoners of the moment and inventing narratives that just aren't true.
BaylorHistory
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guadalupeoso said:

Danielsjackson114 said:

Please, let this be. It is time for a complete shift in Baylor Athletics

No more charmin softness in our athletics

If anyone thinks Scott Drew is soft or has made our program soft, then you are being willfully ignorant of large swathes of his career at Baylor. The program needs to make some change, and Scott Drew needs to make some changes for sure, but it's not because he's soft or builds a soft program. Look at how many winning teams we have had where a large portion of our success was due to the physicality of the team.

If you want Drew gone because you think he can't operate in the current space of college basketball or doesn't have the touch to build the right roster or coaching staff anymore, then fine. You're entitled to that opinion. But we have got to stop being prisoners of the moment and inventing narratives that just aren't true.

I think people on here are bored with the same guy after 20 whatever years. That's the only thing I can come up with looking at the way they treat CSD.

Hell we had posters talking about how Drew should be embarrassed for 2024-2025. You know a year we went 20-15 (10-10) and made the Rnd of 32 (6th year in a row of getting out of the Rnd of 64). That would have been Baylor's best year between 1950 and 2010 yet CSD should be embarrassed. Now I know that investment in the program is much more than it was pre-Drew but a ton of that is because Drew built winners for people to want to invest in the program.
Noooo evidence for that, babeeyyy, just maaade it up.
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Danielsjackson114 said:

Please, let this be. It is time for a complete shift in Baylor Athletics

No more charmin softness in our athletics

Dumbest post ever.
Osodecentx
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UNC, basketball coach Hubert Davis split after historic tournament loss
bear2be2
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guadalupeoso said:

Danielsjackson114 said:

Please, let this be. It is time for a complete shift in Baylor Athletics

No more charmin softness in our athletics

If anyone thinks Scott Drew is soft or has made our program soft, then you are being willfully ignorant of large swathes of his career at Baylor. The program needs to make some change, and Scott Drew needs to make some changes for sure, but it's not because he's soft or builds a soft program. Look at how many winning teams we have had where a large portion of our success was due to the physicality of the team.

If you want Drew gone because you think he can't operate in the current space of college basketball or doesn't have the touch to build the right roster or coaching staff anymore, then fine. You're entitled to that opinion. But we have got to stop being prisoners of the moment and inventing narratives that just aren't true.

I think Scott Drew is a really good college basketball coach, especially on the offensive end. But his teams are frequently baby **** soft on defense.

The only times we've played intense, physical defense is on the rare occasions that we've had players who brought those traits with them to Waco. For the many players who came in as finesse players, there was no defensive standard that anyone was held accountable to.

If you want to see how soft we are on defense, go watch Houston or Iowa State play. Those teams are playing a completely different sport on the defensive end of the floor than we are. They play with default level of effort and intensity that we've only shown flashes of 20-plus years under Drew.
wgeralds
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i wonder if mingo is back on the table with davis' departure
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Stefano DiMera
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Welp . The first domino has fallen with UNC open now.

Let's see if it's bigger than the first domino last year when Enfield left USC for SMU ... making Musselman leave Arkansas for USC . and Calipari then left Kentucky for Arkansas.

If Kansas opens up . I would go after the Iowa coach Ben McCollum.. that dude can coach.. he may not be as sexy a name as they'd like.
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Stefano DiMera said:

Welp . The first domino has fallen with UNC open now.

Let's see if it's bigger than the first domino last year when Enfield left USC for SMU ... making Musselman leave Arkansas for USC . and Calipari then left Kentucky for Arkansas.

If Kansas opens up . I would go after the Iowa coach Ben McCollum.. that dude can coach.. he may not be as sexy a name as they'd like.

McCollum is an elite coach. He led Drake to a 31-win season and its first tournament win since 1971 last year, before leaving for Iowa.

It would be pretty wild if he took three Division I jobs in three years after spending 15 years (and winning four national titles) at Division II Northwest Missouri State.
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wgeralds said:

i wonder if mingo is back on the table with davis' departure

Some here would decry a probable one and done, but if he can get us 15-20 a night and is medically cleared to play Dec -April I'm good with it.
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bossbowman
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Seems to be some heat today about Drew to UNC. Looks like he is definitely getting an interview.
BUBradley
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A lot of fake news surrounding Bill Self and Kansas.
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Danielsjackson114 said:

Please, let this be. It is time for a complete shift in Baylor Athletics

No more charmin softness in our athletics


Absolutely braindead.
TXBEAR_bf
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Good sources?

I think Drew entertaining the opening would be really bad for us. Being in the conversation is one thing but if he interviews and doesn't get it I think that hurts our program, kind of a Matt Rhule situation.

I know Grant has been brought up. It would seem he would be a better fit because of his age and longer runway.

Only way I would be happy to lose Drew is if we got Grant. He is a Baylor guy that gets the university while being a really solid coach. Hard to imagine having the dollars to pull him from Tech unless we got a boatload for Drew's buyout.
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Drew needs to **** or get off the pot as the saying goes. His constant flirting with other jobs is growing old. Especially since he's been steadily tanking the program he currently coaches for. If he's unhappy at Baylor fine, move on. But this crap every year certainly isn't going to help get Baylor back on track.
Also UNC would be dumb to even entertain Drew. That has faceplant written all over it
Stefano DiMera
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Drew's buyout is only 4.6 million.. Otzelberger is 4 million.. that's why they're being mentioned.

Tommy Lloyd and Todd Golden are over 16 mil
guadalupeoso
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bear2be2 said:

guadalupeoso said:

Danielsjackson114 said:

Please, let this be. It is time for a complete shift in Baylor Athletics

No more charmin softness in our athletics

If anyone thinks Scott Drew is soft or has made our program soft, then you are being willfully ignorant of large swathes of his career at Baylor. The program needs to make some change, and Scott Drew needs to make some changes for sure, but it's not because he's soft or builds a soft program. Look at how many winning teams we have had where a large portion of our success was due to the physicality of the team.

If you want Drew gone because you think he can't operate in the current space of college basketball or doesn't have the touch to build the right roster or coaching staff anymore, then fine. You're entitled to that opinion. But we have got to stop being prisoners of the moment and inventing narratives that just aren't true.

I think Scott Drew is a really good college basketball coach, especially on the offensive end. But his teams are frequently baby **** soft on defense.

The only times we've played intense, physical defense is on the rare occasions that we've had players who brought those traits with them to Waco. For the many players who came in as finesse players, there was no defensive standard that anyone was held accountable to.

If you want to see how soft we are on defense, go watch Houston or Iowa State play. Those teams are playing a completely different sport on the defensive end of the floor than we are. They play with default level of effort and intensity that we've only shown flashes of 20-plus years under Drew.

Playing relatively poor on defense and having a culturally soft program (which is what I think the OP was getting at) are not the same thing, at least in my mind.

I understand where you're coming from, and can't argue with what you say about our defensive acumen, particularly compared to some of our conference foes like you mention. But I think I've even seen some other posts from you that talk about the fact that CSD teams, even when they aren't good, don't quit.

The players generally play hard for Drew, even when the desired results are seemingly out of reach.
guadalupeoso
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If Drew were to get the UNC job or some other big opening, what are the odds we could get McCasland? Outside of McCasland, I worry about who we could get to replace Drew.
IowaBear
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Zero shot. There's tons of good mid major coaches. And Baylor's a good gig. Lots of really good coaches would be putting their names in the hat.
guadalupeoso
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IowaBear said:

Zero shot. There's tons of good mid major coaches. And Baylor's a good gig. Lots of really good coaches would be putting their names in the hat.

That's kind of what I thought as well. What mid major coaches would be on your radar? I admittedly have not been following the coaching market (or cbb in general) as closely as I had in years past.
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Flynn Clayman and John Groce would be my 1st 2 choices if Drew left. Grove is a bit older. But he's a winner
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guadalupeoso said:

bear2be2 said:

guadalupeoso said:

Danielsjackson114 said:

Please, let this be. It is time for a complete shift in Baylor Athletics

No more charmin softness in our athletics

If anyone thinks Scott Drew is soft or has made our program soft, then you are being willfully ignorant of large swathes of his career at Baylor. The program needs to make some change, and Scott Drew needs to make some changes for sure, but it's not because he's soft or builds a soft program. Look at how many winning teams we have had where a large portion of our success was due to the physicality of the team.

If you want Drew gone because you think he can't operate in the current space of college basketball or doesn't have the touch to build the right roster or coaching staff anymore, then fine. You're entitled to that opinion. But we have got to stop being prisoners of the moment and inventing narratives that just aren't true.

I think Scott Drew is a really good college basketball coach, especially on the offensive end. But his teams are frequently baby **** soft on defense.

The only times we've played intense, physical defense is on the rare occasions that we've had players who brought those traits with them to Waco. For the many players who came in as finesse players, there was no defensive standard that anyone was held accountable to.

If you want to see how soft we are on defense, go watch Houston or Iowa State play. Those teams are playing a completely different sport on the defensive end of the floor than we are. They play with default level of effort and intensity that we've only shown flashes of 20-plus years under Drew.

Playing relatively poor on defense and having a culturally soft program (which is what I think the OP was getting at) are not the same thing, at least in my mind.

I understand where you're coming from, and can't argue with what you say about our defensive acumen, particularly compared to some of our conference foes like you mention. But I think I've even seen some other posts from you that talk about the fact that CSD teams, even when they aren't good, don't quit.

The players generally play hard for Drew, even when the desired results are seemingly out of reach.
I agree with you there. I don't think we're mentally or emotionally soft. We generally compete really hard and never quit. And our teams have frequently been physical on the glass -- especially the offensive glass.

It just drives me crazy that we can't seem to draw out the intensity or physicality necessary to play really good defense anymore. Our teams lately haven't even had a concept of the level of effort and buy-in you need to have and play with consistently to be successful on that end of the floor.
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It would be ironic if Drew left just a few months after we brought in a "Drew guy" to be AD.
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USA Today columnist's UNC list: 6 names, includes Drew

Sports Illustrated columnist's UNC list: 10 names, does not include Drew

ESPN columnist's UNC list: 9 names, does not include Drew

Yahoo Sports columnist's UNC list: 6 names, does not include Drew

SicEm 365: OMG--WHO ARE WE GOING TO HIRE TO REPLACE DREW?
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whitetrash said:

USA Today columnist's UNC list: 6 names, includes Drew

Sports Illustrated columnist's UNC list: 10 names, does not include Drew

ESPN columnist's UNC list: 9 names, does not include Drew

Yahoo Sports columnist's UNC list: 6 names, does not include Drew

SicEm 365: OMG--WHO ARE WE GOING TO HIRE TO REPLACE DREW?

If Kentucky fans were disappointed with a rumored Scott Drew hire three years removed from a national championship while Baylor was still earning (or at least receiving) three seeds in the tournament, I can't see any way that UNC fans would be happy hiring him five years removed from a title with a clearly declining program.

I don't think there's any chance Drew is actually on any blue blood program's list right now. Deservedly or not, it would be a really hard sell to fans who expect championship level success every season.
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I'm predicting Billy Donovan leaves Bulls and takes the job.

UNC would have to wait till April 12th and end of NBA season but luckily Bulls ain't sniffing the playoffs.
BUBradley
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I can't be the only one that gives Drew a pass given all the injuries since the National Championship and the zero hour back stabbing RW3 leaving.

He hasn't had a chance to remind everyone why they fell in love with Baylor basketball to begin with.

If no other schools want him, GOOD. He's one of Baylor's best sports assets in the history of the school.
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guadalupeoso said:

Danielsjackson114 said:

Please, let this be. It is time for a complete shift in Baylor Athletics

No more charmin softness in our athletics

If anyone thinks Scott Drew is soft or has made our program soft, then you are being willfully ignorant of large swathes of his career at Baylor. The program needs to make some change, and Scott Drew needs to make some changes for sure, but it's not because he's soft or builds a soft program. Look at how many winning teams we have had where a large portion of our success was due to the physicality of the team.

If you want Drew gone because you think he can't operate in the current space of college basketball or doesn't have the touch to build the right roster or coaching staff anymore, then fine. You're entitled to that opinion. But we have got to stop being prisoners of the moment and inventing narratives that just aren't true.

I have that guy blocked because he keeps spamming "Sweet Davey Poo" or some similar insufferable nonsense so I'm quoting your post instead of his (only saw his post because you quoted it). No sane, normal person believes it's time to "move on" from Drew.

Only 2 coaches have won national titles from schools in Texas. The other is a hall of famer who pulled off that feat in the 60s. It will never be anything other than miraculous that Baylor was able to secure a national title. It's nearly impossible. Just block anyone ignorant enough to suggest moving on from Drew.
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Art_E_Guinn said:

guadalupeoso said:

Danielsjackson114 said:

Please, let this be. It is time for a complete shift in Baylor Athletics

No more charmin softness in our athletics

If anyone thinks Scott Drew is soft or has made our program soft, then you are being willfully ignorant of large swathes of his career at Baylor. The program needs to make some change, and Scott Drew needs to make some changes for sure, but it's not because he's soft or builds a soft program. Look at how many winning teams we have had where a large portion of our success was due to the physicality of the team.

If you want Drew gone because you think he can't operate in the current space of college basketball or doesn't have the touch to build the right roster or coaching staff anymore, then fine. You're entitled to that opinion. But we have got to stop being prisoners of the moment and inventing narratives that just aren't true.

I have that guy blocked because he keeps spamming "Sweet Davey Poo" or some similar insufferable nonsense so I'm quoting your post instead of his (only saw his post because you quoted it). No sane, normal person believes it's time to "move on" from Drew.

Only 2 coaches have won national titles from schools in Texas. The other is a hall of famer who pulled off that feat in the 60s. It will never be anything other than miraculous that Baylor was able to secure a national title. It's nearly impossible. Just block anyone ignorant enough to suggest moving on from Drew.

Let's face it, Texas Western (it's name when...) and Baylor were not the Texas schools anyone thought would win the NC. Houston should have won it- now twice --but didn't. UTEP never came close to the NC year again. We had a moment there in 2022 until injury stopped us. Both championship teams were superbly put together and performed brilliantly. Haskins broke all the unwritten rules by recruiting black players to play in Texas. While not anywhere near the situation in the 60s, Scott Drew also worked outside of the standard box by getting transfers. I don't think we give Scott Drew and Company nearly enough credit for how amazing that team was, considering Vitals was the highest rated player on the team coming out of High School. Even with that, the majority of our key players did not pick Baylor coming out of High School: Butler transferred out of Alabama before he ever played. Davion, Macio, Adam all sat out a year as transfers. I can't think of any championship team prior to 2021 that was put together the way ours was.

The window closed on Texas Western: after the championship season, even the SWC finally integrated. Haskins never came close again. In a similar fashion, NCAA changed the rules which affected how Baylor's winning program was constructed--now everyone has transfers, essentially renting players by the year (each of our NC transfers were at Baylor a minimum of 3 years), and most significant we are in a pro league without any real limitations or safeguards for the school/team. Yes, we are competitive NIL wise, but perception suggests we are no better than 75% of the spend levels of some of our top competition. Many years ago, when I was a lot younger and had knee cartilage, I got to where I thought I was a pretty good runner, averaging an 8-minute mile over 3-5 miles. When a group of 6-minute milers came up on me, they passed me as if I were standing still. Just a 25% difference. I have felt something similar to that moment watching us compete a couple of times this year and last.
“No eye has seen, no ear has heard, and no mind has imagined what God has prepared for those who love Him.” 1 Corinthians 2:9
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