BleedGreen&Gold said:

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My goodness this is such a bigoted anti-trans thread. This is the latest wedge issue being pushed by leaders on the right to get everyone riled up. Same as the pseudo-issue of drag queens at brunch. It's all just part of a continuing and growing backlash being waged by the right against the rights of LGBTQ people. My guess is MOST people on this board are straight men who are very uneducated on the entire subject to begin with. Trans people are about 1 percent of the population. The number participating in athletics is even smaller. This is not some major crisis against cis-gender athletes. Some of you really must believe men are becoming women so as to gain an unfair advantage against women to win in sports. You probably also believe they are becoming women to commit sex crimes in the female bathroom, too huh? This is so ludicrous its laughable. Trans women are not men they are women. Trans men are not women, they are men. That is how being trans and accepting trans people in society works. There is a far greater threat and risk to trans-gender athletes than there ever will be against cis-gender athletes. Yes, it's really that simple.

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So you are going to welcome and accept the science that makes the transitioning of genders possible, but you are going to ignore the science that substantiates the biological differences between the genders? Okay, got it.

BleedGreen&Gold said:

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My goodness this is such a bigoted anti-trans thread. This is the latest wedge issue being pushed by leaders on the right to get everyone riled up. Same as the pseudo-issue of drag queens at brunch. It's all just part of a continuing and growing backlash being waged by the right against the rights of LGBTQ people. My guess is MOST people on this board are straight men who are very uneducated on the entire subject to begin with. Trans people are about 1 percent of the population. The number participating in athletics is even smaller. This is not some major crisis against cis-gender athletes. Some of you really must believe men are becoming women so as to gain an unfair advantage against women to win in sports. You probably also believe they are becoming women to commit sex crimes in the female bathroom, too huh? This is so ludicrous its laughable. Trans women are not men they are women. Trans men are not women, they are men. That is how being trans and accepting trans people in society works. There is a far greater threat and risk to trans-gender athletes than there ever will be against cis-gender athletes. Yes, it's really that simple.

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Any person that started as a male and went through puberty as a male and then became a man, has no business competing against naturally born women in sports. Even if it is a tiny portion of our population.

I don't care if they have transitioned, the physiological advantage they have is too great.

It really is simple common sense. It should have never become a political football.

Just having this conversation makes my brain cramp.

BleedGreen&Gold said:

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My goodness this is such a bigoted anti-trans thread. This is the latest wedge issue being pushed by leaders on the right to get everyone riled up. Same as the pseudo-issue of drag queens at brunch. It's all just part of a continuing and growing backlash being waged by the right against the rights of LGBTQ people. My guess is MOST people on this board are straight men who are very uneducated on the entire subject to begin with. Trans people are about 1 percent of the population. The number participating in athletics is even smaller. This is not some major crisis against cis-gender athletes. Some of you really must believe men are becoming women so as to gain an unfair advantage against women to win in sports. You probably also believe they are becoming women to commit sex crimes in the female bathroom, too huh? This is so ludicrous its laughable. Trans women are not men they are women. Trans men are not women, they are men. That is how being trans and accepting trans people in society works. There is a far greater threat and risk to trans-gender athletes than there ever will be against cis-gender athletes. Yes, it's really that simple.

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Agreed.

I would add to a comment somewhere above (I've lost track of it) that suggests that there is a major wave of trans women competing and dominating women's sports ALL OVER THE PLACE. This just isn't the case.

I would encourage anyone to look up the times of Lia Thomas, the NCAA swimmer that won a conference title a couple of years back and caused a huge uproar. Yes, she won the race and the title, but she didn't RUN AWAY WITH IT, and her time wouldn't have even placed her in previous years of the same event. On top of this, she placed 5th and 8th in other races at the same meet. In fact, overall she was far more competitive with men BEFORE she began hormone therapy than she was with women AFTER hormone therapy.

It is a non-issue. No one transitions so they can win a conference title in one race and place 5th and 8th in another.

BGNG and CTX Bear just prove the point that It's the progressive religion above all else. They will only change their tune when the tv pulls on the heart strings and demonstrates that "perhaps we've gone too far" in allowing biological males to compete with females, and scholarships are being handed out to biological males over females. In the meantime they'll call those that disagree names.

Then they go onto claim it's a non-issue because there's only a few cases of biological males dominating, as if that solidifies their position. But it does not. There are many examples of biological males taking the podium in what was formerly female sports. Additionally, the trend will continue to grow, as trans life is celebrated culturally, and as scholarships and financial gain are tied to it.

Last, it is very simple despite all the false arguments for trans being included - biological males have no business competing with biological females in most sports. It's cruel to the females, unfair, and unsportsmanlike. It takes a broken and cruel mind to disregard the years and years of training of top women athletes, to have them supplanted by a transitioning biological male. Cruelty in the name of false compassion and false narratives.

"Reality is not optional." A person cannot change reality just by thinking it or saying it. A lie is still a lie no matter how often someone says it or how many people agree. Trans women are fake women. If they compete in women's sports, they are cheating. This is all obvious common sense. It's nuts that people are debating this and some are willing to slander, use violence against, "cancel", or otherwise harm people who tell the truth.

Trans sports cheating is a form of misogyny. That's why some of us are so passionate in opposition to this insanity. We care about woman's sports & don't want to see it destroyed by male cheaters. And we don't want to see women injured by the male cheaters who have no business playing against women.

We care about real women. We also care about the delusional men who need real help but are not getting it. But caring for them does not mean we have to agree with their lies & acquiesce to the tyranny being imposed in schools, sports teams, & other areas of society.