Foster pavilion

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Scottdye
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Looking a single game tickets and they are very expensive. Am I doing something wrong? The cheapest in the highest level is $129.

Am I doing something wrong? I live in the Dallas area or I would be a season ticket holder.
Brusinbear2001
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im guessing that is just resale i am not sure when baylor is going to announce tickets being on sale or what.
Scottdye
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Thank you. So single game tickets from BU are not available?
Brusinbear2001
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not yet at least. i am not sure how it will be handled. I am also not a season ticket holder and so I've been on the look out as well!!
Scottdye
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Thank you. Have a blessed evening.
ScottS
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Will there be scalped tickets?
MrGolfguy
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Scottdye said:

Looking a single game tickets and they are very expensive. Am I doing something wrong? The cheapest in the highest level is $129.

Am I doing something wrong? I live in the Dallas area or I would be a season ticket holder.
It's already happening and the place is not even open yet. Baylor wanted a tiny arena so they could charge premium prices for basketball games - looks like they got it.

To Hell with Joe Waco & Years Long Loyal BU Fans, We Need Fat Stacks of Cash !!!
BearTiger
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Hope we sell out at least one game this season. We have not been able to fill up 1/3 or 1/2 of the small arena the past couple years. Hope that changes in the new arena. The players love a loud, packed house. Fans really need to show up and support our Lady Bears. We're having a good year.
Wacoraisedbear
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I was going to post something similar to this as well I was looking at single game tickets for MBB and last I checked lowest price was $180 I looked at my buddy and told him looks like we won't be going to many games this year
Wbbfan29
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Was looking at the SMU game again today. The foster pavilion will be around the same size. I hope the game is not televised at the same top angle as smu was.
ctxbear
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With the exception of Texas and maybe TCU (because it's the first game in Foster,) I can just about guarantee you that if you wait until the day of a game to purchase tickets on one of the online ticket exchanges (Seat Geek, StubHub, etc.), you will be able to find tickets for $20 or less. They are always more expensive further out, in the hopes that people will be afraid that a game will sell out and jump on a seat. It takes patience to hold off on purchasing them, but it has worked for me almost every time I've wanted to purchase a ticket to a Baylor athletic event.
Brusinbear2001
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and sometimes you are able to find free tickets from people that cannot make it as well. I'm sure not in the early days in foster but at some point.
T-REX
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MrGolfguy said:

Scottdye said:

Looking a single game tickets and they are very expensive. Am I doing something wrong? The cheapest in the highest level is $129.

Am I doing something wrong? I live in the Dallas area or I would be a season ticket holder.
It's already happening and the place is not even open yet. Baylor wanted a tiny arena so they could charge premium prices for basketball games - looks like they got it.

To Hell with Joe Waco & Years Long Loyal BU Fans, We Need Fat Stacks of Cash !!!
except baylor doesn't have control over secondary market prices set by resellers. Season tickets were not that big of a jump overall and were ridiculously underpriced for decades.
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BellevilleBear
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Reported season ticket sales for Women's Basketball were 3000+. That should leave another 3000+ single-game tickets available for sale once they go on-sale. Not to mention being much closer to the court with better viewing angles. Can't wait!!
BearTiger
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Is this correct? The new Foster Pavillion is 245,000 sq ft with 7,000 capacity. The current Ferrell Center is 150,000 sq ft with 10,300 capacity. That is a big difference in both size and capacity, about 3,300 less seats? If they fill up 3/4, about 5,200 seats, it'll probably look full on tv. We may be able to go one game at Ferrell this season when we visit family. Look forward to it.
Edmond Bear
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MrGolfguy said:

Scottdye said:

Looking a single game tickets and they are very expensive. Am I doing something wrong? The cheapest in the highest level is $129.

Am I doing something wrong? I live in the Dallas area or I would be a season ticket holder.
It's already happening and the place is not even open yet. Baylor wanted a tiny arena so they could charge premium prices for basketball games - looks like they got it.

To Hell with Joe Waco & Years Long Loyal BU Fans, We Need Fat Stacks of Cash !!!


Such a stupid rant.

Baylor wants a full fieldhouse for a better gameday environment. Ferrell is almost never full. They built the right size.

Also, WBB single game tickets in Foster are not even for sale yet. So, you have no idea what the Baylor price is.

TXWayne
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I emailed the ticket office a few weeks back asking when WBB single game tickets would go on sale since I had to give my my season tickets to afford MBB and want to attend the Jan 3rd opening game. They said an email would go out "sometime in December." I asked again today when I sent an email complaining that someone in my row for MBB is selling 2-6 ticket for every home game on SeatGeek. Hopefully they know more about when WBB single game tickets go on sale.
TXWayne
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TXWayne said:

I emailed the ticket office a few weeks back asking when WBB single game tickets would go on sale since I had to give my my season tickets to afford MBB and want to attend the Jan 3rd opening game. They said an email would go out "sometime in December." I asked again today when I sent an email complaining that someone in my row for MBB is selling 2-6 ticket for every home game on SeatGeek. Hopefully they know more about when WBB single game tickets go on sale.
From the ticket office, "Women's basketball single game tickets will go on sale in the coming weeks - please stay tuned on baylorbears.com for when those are available." Reminded her that there are not many weeks left between now and Jan 3d, in fact there are only 3 full weeks......
BearTiger
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Ferrell capacity 10,284

Attendance first 6 homes games:
3570
4808
3812
3713
3709
4340

Avg attendance 3,900. We need to do much better to support our WBB team. Don't have to sell out, but 3,900 doesn't give us the loudness factor for opposing teams. We attended a game last year with about 3K capacity, it was way too quiet, was little surprised. Hope people will show up and sell out the new Foster when B12 games are played. Our Lady Bears deserve it.
Edmond Bear
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BearTiger said:

Ferrell capacity 10,284

Attendance first 6 homes games:
3570 - Southern
4808 - Utah
3812 - Harvard
3713 - McNeese
3709 - Alcorn St
4340 - Oregon


Avg attendance 3,900. We need to do much better to support our WBB team.


Just spot checking vs Mulkey's early season games, that is about 1,000 less per game. But, would still be in the top 20 programs.

We run 3rd in the conference behind Iowa St and Tech.
And, ahead of A&M and UT.

http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/w_basketball_RB/2023/Attend.pdf



BearTiger
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Why are we comparing to Mulkey's first years? Nobody cared about our WBB back then, she inherited losing team and had to start over from scratch. None of those stats matter today. Coach N inherited a winning team that was ranked. We are #10/#14 team in the country now, have winning record and well respected. We should be filling at least 75% of our small arena. Our Lady Bears deserve it.
blackie
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BearTiger said:

Why are we comparing to Mulkey's first years? Nobody cared about our WBB back then, she inherited losing tears and to start over. We are #10/#14 team in the country now, have winning record and well respected. We should be filling at least 75% of our small arena. Our Lady Bears deserve it.
You are absolutely correct, but there are too many that I think are too stubborn to return because KM is not the coach believing that no one can have a successful program at Baylor other than KM.....their loss, IMO. We have a very exciting team to watch. For a very few, I'm not totally convinced they even want to see CNC succeed because of their disgust for the AD.

There are others that also do not understand the parity that now exists in WBB, that have expectations that are way too high for any coach and because of that they don't want to support the program at the level they once did because we will never win "enough" for them.

These are my personal opinions. No one has to agree with them. They have the right to have their own.
Edmond Bear
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BearTiger said:

Why are we comparing to Mulkey's first years? Nobody cared about our WBB back then, she inherited losing tears and to start over. We are #10/#14 team in the country now, have winning record and well respected. We should be filling at least 75% of our small arena. Our Lady Bears deserve it.


I love what Collens has done. And, if I lived in Waco, my wife and I would be there every tume the door was open. But, it's hard to ignore that there is a bitter population of Mulkeyites. Was curious about the impact. It's a part of our history. Seems relevant.

Finally, I didn't compare to Mulkey's early years. But, early season games; the Southerns, the Nicholls States, etc. Basically, the games that were not as interesting.

BearTiger
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What about the other top teams like SC, Uconn, LSU, etc, who bring in 10k to 15k every game including the uninteresting little teams like the Southerns, Nicholls, etc. Our Lady Bears are undefeated and ranked #10/#14 and a very good team. I guess the question is why isn't BWBB not getting the fans in the arena? Why isn't our Lady Bears getting the support they deserve? If my family lived in or close to Waco, we would go to every home game and support our ladies. We supported Kim when she was our coach, but we support Coach N now.
Bear3
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There are some fans who unfortunately do not support our current team or Nicki, eventhough neither had anything to do with Kim leaving. I am not sure how many are in that category but there definitely are some.
MrGolfguy
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Bear3 said:

There are some fans who unfortunately do not support our current team or Nicki, even though neither had anything to do with Kim leaving. I am not sure how many are in that category but there definitely are some.
It's a big number, in the thousands. Go look at the box scores for attendance numbers of 5, 7, 9, 12 years ago. Whenever. They've been cut in half basically.
Edmond Bear
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MrGolfguy said:

Bear3 said:

There are some fans who unfortunately do not support our current team or Nicki, even though neither had anything to do with Kim leaving. I am not sure how many are in that category but there definitely are some.
It's a big number, in the thousands. Go look at the box scores for attendance numbers of 5, 7, 9, 12 years ago. Whenever. They've been cut in half basically.


Or, about a thousand. I noted above that I did a spot check of similar games from a few years ago.

BearTiger
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We're talking about support for our Lady Bears and Coach N here and now while we are a highly ranked team and playing really good basketball. And not compare them to 5 years, 9 years, 12 years ago, etc. We're headed in the right direction and excited about our future. Our awesome ladies and Coach N deserve better support is all we're saying. Hopefully that will change with the brand new arena.
MrGolfguy
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Edmond Bear said:

MrGolfguy said:

Bear3 said:

There are some fans who unfortunately do not support our current team or Nicki, even though neither had anything to do with Kim leaving. I am not sure how many are in that category but there definitely are some.
It's a big number, in the thousands. Go look at the box scores for attendance numbers of 5, 7, 9, 12 years ago. Whenever. They've been cut in half basically.


Or, about a thousand. I noted above that I did a spot check of similar games from a few years ago.


I checked conference games; on Wed nights, on Saturdays, in Jan, in Feb, vs KSU or ISU, or Tcu, or Texas. Games that used to get 5500 to 6500 now get 3000 to 3500. Games that used to get 8000 to 9500 now get 4500 to 5500. Reality is the fanbase has been cut in half, sad but true.
blackie
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MrGolfguy said:

Edmond Bear said:

MrGolfguy said:

Bear3 said:

There are some fans who unfortunately do not support our current team or Nicki, even though neither had anything to do with Kim leaving. I am not sure how many are in that category but there definitely are some.
It's a big number, in the thousands. Go look at the box scores for attendance numbers of 5, 7, 9, 12 years ago. Whenever. They've been cut in half basically.


Or, about a thousand. I noted above that I did a spot check of similar games from a few years ago.


I checked conference games; on Wed nights, on Saturdays, in Jan, in Feb, vs KSU or ISU, or Tcu, or Texas. Games that used to get 5500 to 6500 now get 3000 to 3500. Games that used to get 8000 to 9500 now get 4500 to 5500. Reality is the fanbase has been cut in half, sad but true.
Some portion of it, but certainly not all may be because of inflation. I suspect a lot of those that you used to see in the seats may no longer have the discretionary spending ability they had 4 or 5 years ago and shelling out for tickets and concessions may just be the lowest of their priorities on where to spend their money....if they have it to spend.
Bear2393
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blackie said:

MrGolfguy said:

Edmond Bear said:

MrGolfguy said:

Bear3 said:

There are some fans who unfortunately do not support our current team or Nicki, even though neither had anything to do with Kim leaving. I am not sure how many are in that category but there definitely are some.
It's a big number, in the thousands. Go look at the box scores for attendance numbers of 5, 7, 9, 12 years ago. Whenever. They've been cut in half basically.


Or, about a thousand. I noted above that I did a spot check of similar games from a few years ago.


I checked conference games; on Wed nights, on Saturdays, in Jan, in Feb, vs KSU or ISU, or Tcu, or Texas. Games that used to get 5500 to 6500 now get 3000 to 3500. Games that used to get 8000 to 9500 now get 4500 to 5500. Reality is the fanbase has been cut in half, sad but true.
Some portion of it, but certainly not all may be because of inflation. I suspect a lot of those that you used to see in the seats may no longer have the discretionary spending ability they had 4 or 5 years ago and shelling out for tickets and concessions may just be the lowest of their priorities on where to spend their money....if they have it to spend.


I think Baylor has lost some of their long time fans due to the decisions that have been made over the last 7 - 8 years by the BOR, President and especially the current AD regarding the Athletic Department.
TechDawgMc
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blackie said:


Some portion of it, but certainly not all may be because of inflation. I suspect a lot of those that you used to see in the seats may no longer have the discretionary spending ability they had 4 or 5 years ago and shelling out for tickets and concessions may just be the lowest of their priorities on where to spend their money....if they have it to spend.
Yeah, in that sense the Bears are a bit of a victim of their own success. I was in the stands for a lot of games before we were very good, but I could sit where I wanted for very little cost. I enjoy the games, but I'm not crazy about paying the cost to sit in seats that aren't particularly good. The combination of dealing with inflation and the inflation of basketball prices makes it harder to want to drive the hour to Waco and sit in poor seats to watch a game I can see really well on the TV.

I suspect the mess around Mulkey's departure probably has more impact, but money has to matter here.
Chibears2
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You are also talking pre pandemic. The break allowed people to evaluate where discretionary dollars were going. Some may have decided to redirect that money. Some older fans may have decided to forego large crowds.
Rising costs and the moving on of Coach Mulkey have definitely had some impact. I know there are a lot of Mulkey detractors, but there are definitely places she worked hard to do things that benefitted her program. One of those was hitting every RotaryClub, Lion's Club, etc in the very beginning. Women's basketball still needs a lot of dedicated promotion. CNC and the current players are putting in a lot of effort to market to the students, for example. The older nature of the past fan base will naturally have attrition, sadly. Got to keep working to get those young people involved! (And I say that as a "not young" member of the fan base!)
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Bear2393 said:




I think Baylor has lost some of their long time fans due to the decisions that have been made over the last 7 - 8 years by the BOR, President and especially the current AD regarding the Athletic Department.
No doubt about it.
BearTiger
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You are correct, it takes a lot of work and dedication to sell our WBB program (compared to our MBB). Post-pandemic, there are top ranked teams like SC, Uconn, LSU, Iowa, etc, who are selling out or have 10K-15K attendance even with small meaningless opponents. Don't know what they're doing, but they are very active in marketing and social media for their WBB. We just get the impression the AD and promotion staff not working as aggressive as in the past years. Our families used to get tons of emails, mailings and phone calls to support WBB and attend the home games, but last year and this year less communication. Our families still donate to WBB, but noticed less communication, less attention, less excitement for WBB.
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