Observations from game

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Adriacus Peratuun
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Observations from yesterday's game

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  • Solid win in a very hostile environment.
  • CNC's tactical choice to constantly double Crooks and leave Williams open to shoot was inspired.
  • CNC's admission in postgame media session that she stuck with it one minute too long was also correct.
  • Playing against a D that applies zero ball pressure was what Baylor needed to get comfortable on O. Especially in light of the fact that Baylor significantly changed the halfcourt O.
  • Baylor's primary halfcourt O in prior seasons and early this season was highball screen to dribble attack hoping to draw help and start a series of help and recover situations for D. Clearly (at least for this game) that action was abandoned.
  • Some of impetus for that change is that ISU will NEVER ice or hard hedge the highball screen. Crooks exclusively employs drop coverage. Note: that is exactly why we ran Scott off of a highball screen on that final play…..100% likelihood that she would get an open 12-14 footer.
  • Crooks is a statue on D. She simply can't move faster than a sloth. Every single foul she got was in help D or help and recover situations. When we face ISU again, we need to put Crooks in help D situations every single trip down the court. We will either get a ton of easy baskets or she will foul out early. She simply can't move.
  • Instead of highball screen to dribble attack, we used highball screen to create space to pass from the top (again, knowing that Crooks was in drop coverage which creates open passing lanes). We combined that with double screens for shooters. Scott was cold in first half, Deng was hot. Will be interesting to see if that change continues or if it was a one game adjustment for ISU.
  • We clearly were not consistently great in the screening on that action. The number of moving screen calls was very high. Repetition should clear up some of it.
  • We also tried a changeup on that action where the shooter screens the second screener defender allowing the second screener to roll to the bucket. That is where Scott picked up her screening foul. Again, screening clearly needs work.
  • We ran some backside curl action to return passing. Both of JVG's layups came on that action as the defender played the pass and gave up the drive. The first drive was easy…..could drive a Winnebago down the lane on that play. But on the second drive she did something very nice…..she used dribble hesitation at mid post area (first time all season she has used this tactic) to get the defender vertical and then explode past. Solid improvement. Scott uses the move often and MBB historically had guys like Mason and Butler who employed it often to beat more physically talented defenders.
  • Fontleroy remains broken on O. Her open 3 at the top wasn't close. Broken.
  • Don't get overly excited by this game. Like every team, Baylor wants to play transition O. But in halfcourt O Baylor prefers playing reactive D's and hates playing ball pressure D's. Especially athletic ball pressure D's. ISU is not athletic and applies zero ball pressure. A true measure of the team's growth is the next time we see a ball pressure D. Tech isn't very athletic but their ball pressure had us totally discombobulated on O. Texas was a beat down. When we run effective halfcourt O against ball pressure, real growth has occurred.
  • If WBB has abandoned the highball screen to drive focus, it will help. We can't do it except for Scott. Simply need a ton of work on new actions. Especially screening.
  • Deng's conditioning is improving week over week.
  • Scott's injury seems to be in the rearview mirror.
  • Interested to see how many teams copy our D choices against ISU.
  • Crooks needs immediate medical intervention. She is easily over 300 pounds. Typical for D1 players to improve body composition year over year. She is likely 15-20 pounds heavier than last year. Without a huge focus on weight loss in the near future, her future health situation is terrible. Watching her trying to make it to halfcourt after 4-5 minutes of playing time was scary.
  • ISU will finish around 5-8 position in conference standings. Skilled but limited athleticism.
  • When Scott and Deng are both on the floor, our O can be really good.
  • Buggs handling the ball on the perimeter is a butt clencher every time. Handle is very loose and her insistence on being cool with one handed passing doubles the problem. She needs to not handle the ball. Rebound, defend. Putbacks or short drive attacks (one dribble max). Nothing more.
  • The gap in athleticism between the SEC WBB teams and every other conference may be wider than the Pacific Ocean.
  • Surviving the first half with Scott in a slump was a huge jump.
  • We remain too intent to shoot off of first action. When the team commits to reverse and reinitiate our halfcourt O efficiency level will jump. Still too many forced shots early in the shot clock.
  • Fontleroy allowed a baseline OOB layup by being lazy and out of position.
  • Significant chunk of NIL $ freed up for next year. Need to be smart in using it.
  • Need to retain Scott and Deng at all costs.
  • Freshman Johnson needs a ton of one on one Summer coaching.
  • The staff needs to get their collective asses to Europe to find a three layer post player.
  • Again, solid win in a tough environment. But how the team performs against ball pressure D is the real measuring stick.
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    zebra90
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    Good to see Buggs hit the boards hard and with some intent. Bella not shooting well at all but she brought her shot count down - fewer wasted possessions. Deng just looking better each game, more confident and getting better on D. Kierston Johnson hitting those 3's because Crooks cannot get out there was great to see also. I was yelling at the tv to get out of the double on Crooks late /leaving Jada wide open as the remaing time in the game shifted the possession numbers such that it was better to not allow those open 3's - then as you noted Nicki said we stayed 1 possession too long in that look.

    Fun game, some good growth from the team to find ways to score without Taliah. Getting Buggs back early to taking those 10 foot shots and making them was good to see. Going to need her to keep doing her thing in the boards.

    As you said, let's see if we can stack a few games with some better execution with fewer moving screen fouls and keep this growth rolling.
    4EveraBear
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    I too was yelling at the TV why we would leave #8 wide open. I will say one thing- Nicki's post press conferences are so much more enjoyable than Kim's in my humble opinion!
    True Grit
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    So what is going on with Fontleroy? Her big last year with us has turned into quite the dud.
    True Grit
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    4EveraBear said:

    I too was yelling at the TV why we would leave #8 wide open. I will say one thing- Nicki's post press conferences are so much more enjoyable than Kim's in my humble opinion!

    This I 100% agree with. CNC nails this.
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    True Grit said:

    So what is going on with Fontleroy? Her big last year with us has turned into quite the dud.

    She will turn the corner and be a real contributor soon. She has always been a good player and will be again. She gives percent and is good on defense.
    Adriacus Peratuun
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    chorne68 said:

    True Grit said:

    So what is going on with Fontleroy? Her big last year with us has turned into quite the dud.

    She will turn the corner and be a real contributor soon. She has always been a good player and will be again. She gives percent and is good on defense.

    Shooting 36% from the field and 27% from three for the season doesn't exactly inspire confidence.
    The regular season is past the halfway point…..when does "soon" occur?
    fredbear
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    Thank you AP
    Swamp
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    What do you think of the new mid year 6'5" transfer as to her ability to shore up our inside game next year(not available now)? Know anything about her?
    ctxbear
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    Adriacus Peratuun said:

    [ol]
    Buggs handling the ball on the perimeter is a butt clencher every time. Handle is very loose and her insistence on being cool with one handed passing doubles the problem. She needs to not handle the ball. Rebound, defend. Putbacks or short drive attacks (one dribble max). Nothing more.[/ol]


    To this point: I seem to remember CNC mentioning earlier in the season that she was going to give DLB more opportunities to handle the ball in order to develop her skillset for a potential WNBA career. Did I imagine that? If so, I'll be thrilled if it works for Buggs' future career, but not at the expense of season-altering turnovers.
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    Swamp said:

    What do you think of the new mid year 6'5" transfer as to her ability to shore up our inside game next year(not available now)? Know anything about her?

    Every team needs "cost effective" experienced depth (especially in the post due to greater likelihood for fouls piling up). She has experience. She has legitimate height and size. She will get time to adapt to Baylor schemes. Win win.

    Abraham type player. Serviceable rotation piece.
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    ctxbear said:

    Adriacus Peratuun said:

    [ol]
    Buggs handling the ball on the perimeter is a butt clencher every time. Handle is very loose and her insistence on being cool with one handed passing doubles the problem. She needs to not handle the ball. Rebound, defend. Putbacks or short drive attacks (one dribble max). Nothing more.[/ol]


    To this point: I seem to remember CNC mentioning earlier in the season that she was going to give DLB more opportunities to handle the ball in order to develop her skillset for a potential WNBA career. Did I imagine that? If so, I'll be thrilled if it works for Buggs' future career, but not at the expense of season-altering turnovers.

    CNC was using her to break backcourt pressure so that comment wouldn't surprise me.
    Maybe Buggs should start with getting both feet out of bounds and using two hands on the entry pass after a made bucket. She is soooooooooo sloppy with the ball. Great athlete but so fundamentally unsound.

    Buggs will not be playing in the WNBA if Didi Richards can't hold a roster spot.
    Her shot mechanics alone are a deal killer.
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    fredbear said:

    Thank you AP

    NP.
    BaylorBears_254
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    Id prefer Deng and Scott starting, but that wouldn't happen.

    Next year if we are able to retain Scott should be focused on getting the best POST player available. Not a 6'1 post, the best legit post.

    Pairing Scott with a post that can take the pressure off her would be a match made in heaven.
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    BaylorBears_254 said:

    Id prefer Deng and Scott starting, but that wouldn't happen.

    Next year if we are able to retain Scott should be focused on getting the best POST player available. Not a 6'1 post, the best legit post.

    Pairing Scott with a post that can take the pressure off her would be a match made in heaven.

    Nope.

    one of Scott's best attributes is her ability to dribble drive the basketball……especially to the left block area.
    she doesn't need a traditional post. She needs teammates who can space the floor and therefor open the lane.
    She also needs a teammate who can take the burden of creation (partially) off her shoulders.

    in order of need:

    a PG who can create off the dribble and get Scott some open looks from 3 on drive & distribute scenarios.
    a Stretch 5 who opens the lane.
    a Stretch 4 who opens the lane.
    a 3 who can actually shoot the 3. Deng.

    a traditional post that clogs the lane undermines the top two items.
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    LTBear19
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    BaylorBears_254 said:

    Id prefer Deng and Scott starting, but that wouldn't happen.

    Next year if we are able to retain Scott should be focused on getting the best POST player available. Not a 6'1 post, the best legit post.

    Pairing Scott with a post that can take the pressure off her would be a match made in heaven.


    We have a post right now that takes the pressure off of Scott and several others: Nelms.

    Against both Southern and Oklahoma State, we went on solid runs and took control of both games once Nelms was inserted into the lineup.

    But it seems that CNC is determined to limit her minutes.

    So unless that changes, expect Scott and others to continue doing the heavy lifting.
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    LTBear19 said:

    BaylorBears_254 said:

    Id prefer Deng and Scott starting, but that wouldn't happen.

    Next year if we are able to retain Scott should be focused on getting the best POST player available. Not a 6'1 post, the best legit post.

    Pairing Scott with a post that can take the pressure off her would be a match made in heaven.


    We have a post right now that takes the pressure off of Scott and several others: Nelms.

    Against both Southern and Oklahoma State, we went on solid runs and took control of both games once Nelms was inserted into the lineup.

    But it seems that CNC is determined to limit her minutes.

    So unless that changes, expect Scott and others to continue doing the heavy lifting.

    Whatever upside that Nelms offers on O by spacing the floor, she matches with downside on D with zero shotblocking and spotty POP defense.

    And at least a few times this season (when Nelms is playing), it looks like four players are running one action and Nelms is running another. At other times her spacing when setting picks or making O rotations is simply bad.

    She is an interesting piece and definitely needs to be used when the O stalls badly. But those times come with a decent amount of nose holding in some areas of the game.
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    Adriacus Peratuun said:

    LTBear19 said:

    BaylorBears_254 said:

    Id prefer Deng and Scott starting, but that wouldn't happen.

    Next year if we are able to retain Scott should be focused on getting the best POST player available. Not a 6'1 post, the best legit post.

    Pairing Scott with a post that can take the pressure off her would be a match made in heaven.


    We have a post right now that takes the pressure off of Scott and several others: Nelms.

    Against both Southern and Oklahoma State, we went on solid runs and took control of both games once Nelms was inserted into the lineup.

    But it seems that CNC is determined to limit her minutes.

    So unless that changes, expect Scott and others to continue doing the heavy lifting.

    Whatever upside that Nelms offers on O by spacing the floor, she matches with downside on D with zero shotblocking and spotty POP defense.

    And at least a few times this season (when Nelms is playing), it looks like four players are running one action and Nelms is running another. At other times her spacing when setting picks or making O rotations is simply bad.

    She is an interesting piece and definitely needs to be used when the O stalls badly. But those times come with a decent amount of nose holding in some areas of the game.

    If people will just listen to CNC's comments in the videos that a few kindly post here, she has alluded to the Nelms' situation at least a couple of times that I have heard, they would understand the Nelms situation. NC has told us that too many times Nelms is just not focused on what she is supposed to be doing. Her failure to do so in practice was initially really cutting into her playing time in non-conference. But the comment is still being made by the coach from time to time. When she is focused, she contributes handily and she plays. But when not, then the comments made by AP are valid and we are better off at those time with her being on the bench.

    CNC is probably giving her a lot more rope than KM would have ever given her.
    Adriacus Peratuun
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    For anyone that is wondering about the Audi Crooks comments in the OP……




    LTBear19
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    Adriacus Peratuun said:

    LTBear19 said:

    BaylorBears_254 said:

    Id prefer Deng and Scott starting, but that wouldn't happen.

    Next year if we are able to retain Scott should be focused on getting the best POST player available. Not a 6'1 post, the best legit post.

    Pairing Scott with a post that can take the pressure off her would be a match made in heaven.


    We have a post right now that takes the pressure off of Scott and several others: Nelms.

    Against both Southern and Oklahoma State, we went on solid runs and took control of both games once Nelms was inserted into the lineup.

    But it seems that CNC is determined to limit her minutes.

    So unless that changes, expect Scott and others to continue doing the heavy lifting.

    Whatever upside that Nelms offers on O by spacing the floor, she matches with downside on D with zero shotblocking and spotty POP defense.

    And at least a few times this season (when Nelms is playing), it looks like four players are running one action and Nelms is running another. At other times her spacing when setting picks or making O rotations is simply bad.

    She is an interesting piece and definitely needs to be used when the O stalls badly. But those times come with a decent amount of nose holding in some areas of the game.


    Not sure which games some of you have been watching these last couple of weeks, because Nelms has been a difference maker WHEN CNC has actually played her for an extended period of time.

    In fact, let's just look at the last 4 games played.

    Southern:

    We were actually struggling against Southern for crying out loud. Like, barely scraping by. Look, Southern may be decent, but there is absolutely no reason they should have been anywhere close to us. Yet, they were.

    Nelms goes in, we turn into a different team. Everyone's level rises, we win comfortably. She had a career-high game, for those of you who missed it.

    Texas Tech:

    Nelms plays all of 3 minutes. We get cooked over and over down low. Tech pulls off the upset.

    And before anyone anoints Tech as some sort of elite team, I can almost assure you that they will likely finish somewhere in the 4-8 range in conference once the dust settles.

    Pretty sure Nelms could have provided a much needed spark in the paint, seeing our other post players combined for 8 points in 37 minutes.

    Oklahoma State:

    We are getting completely manhandled in Stillwater. Down nearly 20 points. Scott was being shut out in the 3rd, and the OSU players were clowning us after made buckets. It was embarrassing.

    At that point, CNC is probably thinking she's just waving the white flag when she inserts Nelms with 1:44 left in the 3rd. Just trying to make things look respectable.

    Well, guess what?

    We turn a 19-point deficit with less than 1:30 in the 3rd into a 9-point win.

    That is a 28-point swing in less than 12 minutes, and Nelms's fingerprints were all over that rally.

    Iowa State:

    We won. But Crooks still had her way in the paint in the first half.

    I'd argue that Nelms would have made Crooks work even harder with her strength down low, and she wouldn't have been as effective. Which means we probably win the game much more easily, instead of needing a last-second jumper by Scott.

    In other words, had CNC been playing Nelms as she should, we'd likely be sitting atop the conference standings at 3-0.

    And if CNC is alluding to Nelms's lack of playing time being tied to some sort of disciplinary issue, then that would be laughable, at best.

    After all, we did just witness a game where a player literally checked themselves into the lineup when they felt like it. And the coach openly admitted to having no clue it was happening in real time.

    Even if that plan was discussed as an option beforehand, I don't know too many coaches who would have been ok with that situation playing out the way it did.

    Does anyone here think Mulkey would have EVER allowed that to take place?

    If it had, it would have been that player's first, and quite possibly last time doing that in a Baylor uniform.

    So let's not talk about discipline.

    Will we win tonight? Most likely, as Colorado is not on our level, no matter who we put out there.

    But if we want to make a legitimate run at the conference title, and find ourselves playing come the second weekend in March, then CNC better realize how valuable Nelms can be to that cause.

    Otherwise, don't be surprised if we find ourselves in the same spot we were in last year during the Sweet 16 - at home watching on tv.
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