SHWEWWW! Thought we would have to play LSU?!?

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longtimebear
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Nicki may know a lot about Basketball but she doesn't know a damn thing about coaching a team. Todays game was so indicative of this season. Turnovers, turnovers, turnovers. How does a team play so stupid if they had a coach? They play stupid because they don't have a coach.

I feel so bad for Buggs and Fontleroy. They may not have been the best Lady Bears ever but I thought a lot of them. I sure wish them the best for their future.

I wish we could get a new coach for next year....doubt that will happen, sooo we will see what happens.

Bruiser85
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I don't think she knows a lot about basketball.
Robert Wilson
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Does LSU have a good coach?
Danielsjackson114
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Why did we fire our Hall of Fame coach again?
canoso
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Robert Wilson said:

Does LSU have a good coach?
For sure she doesn't put up with lackadaisicality. Guess that's a real word....spellwrecker didn't bat an eyelash.
Bear3
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Yes. LSU has a good coach and a roster full of 5 star players.
canoso
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Bear3 said:

Yes. LSU has a great coach and a roster full of ladies that hustle their posterior off and hate losing with a purple passion.

FIFY.

IowaBear
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Baylor has a roster full of highly ranked players too. Quit deflecting. Your girl Collen sucks
Delmar 2.0
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Danielsjackson114 said:

Why did we fire our Hall of Fame coach again?

Mulkey got fired at Baylor? I thought she took her ball and went home because she realized she wasn't going to walk all over Mack like she did Ian.
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IowaBear
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Well in hindsight maybe she should have been able to walk all over Mack… the guy has tanked 3 of Baylor's 4 major sports
Bear3
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Our roster is nowhere close to the talent LSU has.
IowaBear
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No one said it was. But the Baylor roster is plenty talented. And let's not pretend LSus roster is the only reason they're playing at such a high level.
Double D
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She is the best!
Robert Wilson
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Delmar 2.0 said:

Danielsjackson114 said:

Why did we fire our Hall of Fame coach again?

Mulkey got fired at Baylor? I thought she took her ball and went home because she realized she wasn't going to walk all over Mack like she did Ian.


So … part of an AD's job is being walked over … of course it is…
Baylorbearsupporter
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Honestly our roster really isnt elite, and i wish people stop saying that. We have a team full of bench players being honest.


Jada/sarah/matharu/netty/yaya Was eliteeee.
LTBear19
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Baylorbearsupporter said:

Honestly our roster really isnt elite, and i wish people stop saying that. We have a team full of bench players being honest.


Jada/sarah/matharu/netty/yaya Was eliteeee.

Neither team was 'elite.'

But if coached properly, should both teams have made the second weekend of the tournament?

Yes.
franke
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There are maybe 5 top to bottom "elite" rosters in the country. Those rosters also have those elite coaches. We should still be able to be consistently top 15-20... shoot, West Virginia's roster looks worse than ours, however, they've played their game and hosted.
Tempus Edax Rerum
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Danielsjackson114 said:

Why did we fire our Hall of Fame coach again?

Because A-hole Rhoades ego was too fragile.
Bobby20
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IowaBear said:

No one said it was. But the Baylor roster is plenty talented. And let's not pretend LSus roster is the only reason they're playing at such a high level.

Define "plenty"
allybear
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We didn't…she quit!
Gametime
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allybear said:

We didn't…she quit!


She saw how bad Mack was. Literally look at our programs and what Mack did.
Danielsjackson114
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She was ran off. Don't listen to mod articles all the time
BUatbirth
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"ran off"…? Lol, if anyone thinks that it's possible for Kim to be run off by anyone…well, they don't know Kim Mulkey. If by "ran off", meaning she didn't like something and CHOSE to leave (ala, La Tech)…then ok. Kim makes her own decisions.
Robert Wilson
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Danielsjackson114 said:

She was ran off. Don't listen to mod articles all the time

I really enjoy the explanation of why "it's really better that KMR left" because WBB loses money. That's a good one.

The reality in WBB is you're either playing at a final 4 / challenging for NC level / winning NCs, or nobody in the country knows who you are. All the marketing / front porch value of WBB is in being elite. Past that, it just doesn't matter. We went from elite to just doesn't matter.

Look at how much Texas Tech paid their softball players to get the publicity of running to the end of (and losing) the softball CWS. I'd posit that it makes sense to lose/invest a pretty good chunk of money on WBB if you're playing at a NC level, based on the marketing / brand impact / fan base and athletic department mojo etc. Remember what happened throughout the athletic dept as Mulkey started winning...
drahthaar
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This was a total systemic failure of both sides to manage greatness and success, coupled with unfettered egos and intransigence in positions and perspectives. My unproven guess is that a big complicating factor was someone or someones making commitments for BU to Mulkey which they had no authority to make, but like every Baptist church in which I've been a member, influential folks will weasel to get what they want by any means necessary. And this nuked whatever hope remained for resolution. Everyone was responsible for the WBB mess. We should focus on restoring the program and leave this to incomplete memories IMO.
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Robert Wilson said:

Danielsjackson114 said:

She was ran off. Don't listen to mod articles all the time

I really enjoy the explanation of why "it's really better that KMR left" because WBB loses money. That's a good one.

The reality in WBB is you're either playing at a final 4 / challenging for NC level / winning NCs, or nobody in the country knows who you are. All the marketing / front porch value of WBB is in being elite. Past that, it just doesn't matter. We went from elite to just doesn't matter.

Look at how much Texas Tech paid their softball players to get the publicity of running to the end of (and losing) the softball CWS. I'd posit that it makes sense to lose/invest a pretty good chunk of money on WBB if you're playing at a NC level, based on the marketing / brand impact / fan base and athletic department mojo etc. Remember what happened throughout the athletic dept as Mulkey started winning...

Unfortunately for Baylor WBB, Scott Drew won a national championship and took away some of the spotlight from KM.
Robert Wilson
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blackie said:

Robert Wilson said:

Danielsjackson114 said:

She was ran off. Don't listen to mod articles all the time

I really enjoy the explanation of why "it's really better that KMR left" because WBB loses money. That's a good one.

The reality in WBB is you're either playing at a final 4 / challenging for NC level / winning NCs, or nobody in the country knows who you are. All the marketing / front porch value of WBB is in being elite. Past that, it just doesn't matter. We went from elite to just doesn't matter.

Look at how much Texas Tech paid their softball players to get the publicity of running to the end of (and losing) the softball CWS. I'd posit that it makes sense to lose/invest a pretty good chunk of money on WBB if you're playing at a NC level, based on the marketing / brand impact / fan base and athletic department mojo etc. Remember what happened throughout the athletic dept as Mulkey started winning...

Unfortunately for Baylor WBB, Scott Drew won a national championship and took away some of the spotlight from KM.

Yes, Mack Rhoads (and maybe Linda et al, I couldn't say) was put in the position of engaging with an elite coach with a very difficult personality while managing finances / spotlight / control with another incredibly successful athletic program.

Sounds like the kind of thing that an athletic director might have to do. Oh my. If only he could've dealt with someone easy like Pat Summit or Nick Saban.

Fortunately, at this point neither of our basketball programs are taking up enough space to demand too much.

Are we losing less money now? Mediocre but more fiscally responsible? How'd that work out on the financial statements?
Bear2393
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Gametime said:

allybear said:

We didn't…she quit!


She saw how bad Mack was. Literally look at our programs and what Mack did.



No doubt!
lookin4awin
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blackie said:

Robert Wilson said:

Danielsjackson114 said:

She was ran off. Don't listen to mod articles all the time

I really enjoy the explanation of why "it's really better that KMR left" because WBB loses money. That's a good one.

The reality in WBB is you're either playing at a final 4 / challenging for NC level / winning NCs, or nobody in the country knows who you are. All the marketing / front porch value of WBB is in being elite. Past that, it just doesn't matter. We went from elite to just doesn't matter.

Look at how much Texas Tech paid their softball players to get the publicity of running to the end of (and losing) the softball CWS. I'd posit that it makes sense to lose/invest a pretty good chunk of money on WBB if you're playing at a NC level, based on the marketing / brand impact / fan base and athletic department mojo etc. Remember what happened throughout the athletic dept as Mulkey started winning...

Unfortunately for Baylor WBB, Scott Drew won a national championship and took away some of the spotlight from KM.

Also, at this particular time, there were a surprising number of Baylor supporters who made vicious posts diminishing the value of having one of the most successful women's basketball programs in the nation. Posters were cruel. Armed with the men's championship team that everyone was so justly proud of, a number of posters came over to the women's side empowered to ridicule Mulkey and the lack of worth of her and her teams' accomplishments. Of course, these same posters were in love with Macho Mack and passionately defended anything he said or did because of the success of the men's programs-basketball and football. My how times change. He ain't here, left on abysmal terms, and Mulkey is still kickin' ass and takin names! She was totally underappreciated at the time.
blackie
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lookin4awin said:

blackie said:

Robert Wilson said:

Danielsjackson114 said:

She was ran off. Don't listen to mod articles all the time

I really enjoy the explanation of why "it's really better that KMR left" because WBB loses money. That's a good one.

The reality in WBB is you're either playing at a final 4 / challenging for NC level / winning NCs, or nobody in the country knows who you are. All the marketing / front porch value of WBB is in being elite. Past that, it just doesn't matter. We went from elite to just doesn't matter.

Look at how much Texas Tech paid their softball players to get the publicity of running to the end of (and losing) the softball CWS. I'd posit that it makes sense to lose/invest a pretty good chunk of money on WBB if you're playing at a NC level, based on the marketing / brand impact / fan base and athletic department mojo etc. Remember what happened throughout the athletic dept as Mulkey started winning...

Unfortunately for Baylor WBB, Scott Drew won a national championship and took away some of the spotlight from KM.

Also, at this particular time, there were a surprising number of Baylor supporters who made vicious posts diminishing the value of having one of the most successful women's basketball programs in the nation. Posters were cruel. Armed with the men's championship team that everyone was so justly proud of, a number of posters came over to the women's side empowered to ridicule Mulkey and the lack of worth of her and her teams' accomplishments. Of course, these same posters were in love with Macho Mack and passionately defended anything he said or did because of the success of the men's programs-basketball and football. My how times change. He ain't here, left on abysmal terms, and Mulkey is still kickin' ass and takin names! She was totally underappreciated at the time.

I'll take your word for it, but I don't remember that being the case for most of the posters that had been loyal to the program for years. The angst with KM came after she walked and doing everything she could to take the best players with her from what I was told....yeah, was told....I don't think any of us know the real facts of any of this. I just know we all got dumped. But I still believe to this day that had it not been LSU, she would still be here, if she had not already retired.

I thought the fans should have at least deserved a public thank you for following and supporting her team, some of us from before the first championship, but I don't believe that ever occurred. Sure, be angry at the AD, but the fans that truly appreciated the team's accomplishments deserved better than they got. The fans who had supported her from day one had nothing to do with any of this. Just like CNC had nothing to do with it, but that didn't keep people from dumping on her before she had even coached a game. Just a completely fiasco all the way around.
Bone Squad
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blackie said:



I thought the fans should have at least deserved a public thank you for following and supporting her team, some of us from before the first championship, but I don't believe that ever occurred.

I do remember her taking out a full page ad in the Waco Tribune Herald doing exactly that. I saw a picture of it (almost certainly posted on the boards here), but was not able to find it again through a quick Google search.
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