Any chance Lady Bears are close to calling off the season like Puke and Virginia ?

https://www.espn.com/womens-college-basketball/story/_/id/30727296/ncaa-season-goes-almighty-dollar-trumps-health?platform=amp&__twitter_impression=true

No

Seems to me this game should have been postponed.

Under the present conditions, it is unrealistic to expect to be able to postpone games for any other than drastic reason. This game did not come close to meeting those standards. If you have the minimum number of players available you play.

I get whilltalk's point and know that's the correct answer, but boy we are asking a lot of our teams (in all sports) to have one practice after being off for two weeks (including KM) and two contributing players out as well. Plus, Iowa State brings a special game plan to the table.

The good news... we still almost won. This year's b-ball champion will probably have a minimum of 3 losses.

Curious to see who, or how fast, the administration? or NCAA? mute CKM for speaking her mind.

So it is "all about the almighty dollar"? Really.......Coach??

That's pretty "rich", coming from someone who once insinuated/threatened to leave because she wasn't being paid her worth. Simply sounds like a coach whose dobber is down after a poor performance loss.....

Sic'em

zunooreo said:

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So it is "all about the almighty dollar"? Really.......Coach??

That's pretty "rich", coming from someone who once insinuated/threatened to leave because she wasn't being paid her worth. Simply sounds like a coach whose dobber is down after a poor performance loss.....

Sic'em

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I love how CKM speaks her mind. She isn't the only coach to express those feelings towards the NCAA.
Nevertheless, it's fair to debate the validity of how much, if any, money plays into this season. But, to compare that to CKM's contract? Two completely different issues.

If I were a betting man, I would be hard pressed to bet that the NCAA season finishes at this point, especially with a more contagious virus coming on and that vaccines for people under 65, which certainly all players are and the vast majority of coaches are will not be available for most until after the season is over. Not saying they won't finish with whatever teams can last, and I certainly would not bet on the Final Four or either sport not happening, but I would not bet that it does.

I guess the silver lining for this team, if there is one, is that if they do not win the conference and their streak ends, it would come with an asterisk.

BUatbirth said:

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zunooreo said:

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So it is "all about the almighty dollar"? Really.......Coach??

That's pretty "rich", coming from someone who once insinuated/threatened to leave because she wasn't being paid her worth. Simply sounds like a coach whose dobber is down after a poor performance loss.....

Sic'em

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I love how CKM speaks her mind. She isn't the only coach to express those feelings towards the NCAA.
Nevertheless, it's fair to debate the validity of how much, if any, money plays into this season. But, to compare that to CKM's contract? Two completely different issues.

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"I love how she speaks her mind." LOL Everyone's sense of confidence in what they say, and to whom they say it, increases when you no longer need the money, or job. It's not a virtue only bestowed on athletic coaches.

It is not new news: Money has driven all decision-making within all D-I college Athletic Director departments during the pandemic. It is a business, run like a business by universities. Period.

I love CKM as our coach as much as you. But sorry, they are in fact exactly the same. Money was driving her decision-making process as well.

Sic'em

The almighty dollar is part of American Culture. Universities make money from big time athletic teams and therefore able to pay coaches millions of dollars !! Only in America

BUatbirth said:

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zunooreo said:

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So it is "all about the almighty dollar"? Really.......Coach??

That's pretty "rich", coming from someone who once insinuated/threatened to leave because she wasn't being paid her worth. Simply sounds like a coach whose dobber is down after a poor performance loss.....

Sic'em

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I love how CKM speaks her mind. She isn't the only coach to express those feelings towards the NCAA.
Nevertheless, it's fair to debate the validity of how much, if any, money plays into this season. But, to compare that to CKM's contract? Two completely different issues.

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Especially in the midst of a global pandemic.

When did the NCAA (or universities) make money from WBB? I love the women's game of basketball but to the NCAA and the vast majority of universities it is a money pit.

I would have to disagree in one respect, salary negotiations are about competitive value at the time and aren't related to this current situation.

Though I agree with CKM, it is all about the money (and student development), i have to say, I don't understand her point. There are a lot of passengers on the money train; NCAA, Universities, Athletic Deptartments, Coaches, and Students. If the train stops, you would think financial sacrifices would have to be made by everyone on the train - that's a lot of sacrifice, and I wonder if all are prepared to make it.

Perhaps, keeping the train moving, though slowly, and being as safe as possible while doing so, is the best course.

For sure, it is an uncomfortable and challenging year for all.

Sic em

zunooreo said:

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BUatbirth said:

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zunooreo said:

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So it is "all about the almighty dollar"? Really.......Coach??

That's pretty "rich", coming from someone who once insinuated/threatened to leave because she wasn't being paid her worth. Simply sounds like a coach whose dobber is down after a poor performance loss.....

Sic'em

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I love how CKM speaks her mind. She isn't the only coach to express those feelings towards the NCAA.
Nevertheless, it's fair to debate the validity of how much, if any, money plays into this season. But, to compare that to CKM's contract? Two completely different issues.

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"I love how she speaks her mind." LOL Everyone's sense of confidence in what they say, and to whom they say it, increases when you no longer need the money, or job. It's not a virtue only bestowed on athletic coaches.

It is not new news: Money has driven all decision-making within all D-I college Athletic Director departments during the pandemic. It is a business, run like a business by universities. Period.

I love CKM as our coach as much as you. But sorry, they are in fact exactly the same. Money was driving her decision-making process as well.

Sic'em

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Making decisions, affecting thousands, based on a desire to make money is the same as a individual's desire to earn more? No...but nice try

Coach Mulkey has a lot of pull at Baylor.
If she think the team is forced to play in an unhealthy environment.

For the safety of her players and staff, she is obligated to terminate the season
for The Baylor Lady Bears.

Now that ESPN Women's Hoops blasted the quotes in a tweet, it's going over about as well with most non-Baylor basketball fans on Twitter as one might expect.

DanaDane said:

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Now that ESPN Women's Hoops blasted the quotes in a tweet, it's going over about as well with most non-Baylor basketball fans on Twitter as one might expect.

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Not surprised. I was wondering how long it would take. They did the same to Mike Krzyzewski.

Unfortunately her comments are getting lost on most people because of the timing. Just like Coach K's diatribe, it came after an upset loss. I know CKM doesn't make excuses, but that is how the general public is going to interpret her comments. Had she said them before the season (did she?) or after a win against WV or UT then they probably carry more weight. I am 100% positive that she was going to blast the NCAA in her post game comments regardless if we won or lost, but it had an added twist coming after a loss at home that breaks a 61 game winning streak.

FYI - Carolyn Peck stated that CKM made these comments PRIOR to the ISU game.

I love Km. Best coach in any sport ever at B.U. But after a loss is not the retime to whine. Coach K already taught that lesson. Beat UConn then say, we should not be playing. Timing impacts messaging.

This is one of the VERY RARE occasions that I've been disappointed in CKM, not that she should or would in any way care. First, if she put it to a popular vote with her team, does she think that they would vote to ignore all the efforts being made to safely play this season, and just blow off a year of their playing life span? Not eligibility or career. Every one of those young ladies has a finite number of play at a competitive level, and players want to play. Second, does she think that they have a better opportunity to stay in good health with all the amazing resources brought to bear on their behalf, plus the discipline support to help them make smart decisions, and exercise smart, safety protocols, or just hang with family and friends in lieu of the cancelled season, and play pickup ball?

Even if that's how she feels, although I think it's flawed logic, personally, she's paid at a level to deal with it, and keep her comments to herself, and appropriate environments. She's unwittingly providing a victim's mentality and excuse for her team, which will not serve them well in real life. Not to mention that as bad and frustrating as the circumstances were last night, it allowed 2 or 3 players the chance to shine in those trying circumstances, which CKM herself took note of multiple times in her postgame presser.

In a year where all athletic departments are struggling to pay their bills, Kim's response of the importance of the almighty dollar to the NCAA might have more meaning if she donated her million dollar salary back to the University. I haven't seen that happening,

Saddle Up! said:

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This is one of the VERY RARE occasions that I've been disappointed in CKM, not that she should or would in any way care. First, if she put it to a popular vote with her team, does she think that they would vote to ignore all the efforts being made to safely play this season, and just blow off a year of their playing life span? Not eligibility or career. Every one of those young ladies has a finite number of play at a competitive level, and players want to play. Second, does she think that they have a better opportunity to stay in good health with all the amazing resources brought to bear on their behalf, plus the discipline support to help them make smart decisions, and exercise smart, safety protocols, or just hang with family and friends in lieu of the cancelled season, and play pickup ball?

Even if that's how she feels, although I think it's flawed logic, personally, she's paid at a level to deal with it, and keep her comments to herself, and appropriate environments. She's unwittingly providing a victim's mentality and excuse for her team, which will not serve them well in real life. Not to mention that as bad and frustrating as the circumstances were last night, it allowed 2 or 3 players the chance to shine in those trying circumstances, which CKM herself took note of multiple times in her postgame presser.

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Disagree. In contrast, she's paid at a level where people will listen. It's her duty to speak her truth and let people report it. She hasn't been in for it if the media in almost a month and now has experience to back up her feelings. She should shout from the rafters. You don't have to listens but you should respect her, and Coach K, using their platform.

roadrunner said:

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FYI - Carolyn Peck stated that CKM made these comments PRIOR to the ISU game.

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This point cannot be over emphasised. She made those comments BEFORE the game, not after. So some of the arguments on here are totally without merit or context.

And she made one point that is absolutely accurate in noting. Whether it be football or men's and women's basketball, the deciding factor on who wins conference and NCAA tournament championships is a lot more likely to hinge on who actually has enough players available to play rather than the relative talent on the teams playing each other. I think that what ticked her off more than anything was that she was just extremely shorthanded in numbers and in practice time going into the biggest game on her schedule to this point.

Given that ISU had just played 3 games in about 7 days, that had put them at a huge advantage in fitness level and game experience compared to KM's situation, which led to a total lack of cohesiveness on our team's part. And the results were obvious and predictable.

But make no mistake, Bill Fenneley has put together a darn good team that plays extremely well together and as a matter of fact now leads our conference, at 5-1 (we are 3-1). And after Texas' loss today, every other team in conference except those 2 has at least 2 conference losses. So at least for the moment Iowa State is in the driver's seat. It's also worth noting that they are starting 3 true freshman and are still looking this disciplined and experienced on the court. Providing they are able to keep their ship intact and don't have any transfers out they're going to be a force for the next several years to come with that group.

Baylor on the other hand has a lot of bugs to work out, and is in desperate need of lots of good practice time, and continuity in their game schedule such that they can be sufficiently improved in time to be a force at the end of the season. I fear that if we continue on a sporadic course of scheduling and practices going deep into the conference schedule, that we may have Sweet 16 as our ceiling for this year. And I wouldn't be at all surprised if we ended up not winning the big 12 title for the 1st time in about 11 seasons. We just don't really look like we've got as much potential this year because of the lack of that dominant post player we've become accustomed to having with recent teams.

I would tend to agree with some of the other sentiments on here that it's a bit of a stretch to blame this on the NCAA looking out just for the Almighty dollar. I think this was just frustration speaking more than anything else...

I said this earlier, the recruiting has gone downhill since that younger woman coach left. She was younger and could relate and recruit the high level kids. Now all we get is transfers. Anyone else agree?

BUClassof91 said:

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I said this earlier, the recruiting has gone downhill since that younger woman coach left. She was younger and could relate and recruit the high level kids. Now all we get is transfers. Anyone else agree?

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Again I'll disagree. If anything, Mulkey takes talent that works for her. We have an ACL injured player on the sidelines, and we have a crop of adequate talent that missed an off season of development. She lnows what she is doing, and I beg you to be patient. Our 2023 class will be INCEDIBLE and will have us celebrating under the banner once again. Mulkey has never had a player like Sammie, and in Sammie the BU front will SHINE!!!!!!

What about the 2021 AND 2022 class? You skipped those. lol. I will be a fan of our women's team regardless. Just an observation.

BUClassof91 said:

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What about the 2021 AND 2022 class? You skipped those. lol. I will be a fan of our women's team regardless. Just an observation.

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Ask anyone who knows anything about women's basketball recruiting. Both classes have been painfully down. Kim puts her stock in the player she knows will deliver. Sammie will wipe the floor with 90% of the players from 2021 and 2022 - down recruiting classes leaves spaces open for transfers. Trust the process, not the media. She knows more than we do, and she definitely knows talent. #next

BUClassof91 said:

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I said this earlier, the recruiting has gone downhill since that younger woman coach left. She was younger and could relate and recruit the high level kids. Now all we get is transfers. Anyone else agree?

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Are you talking about toyelle Wilson? And I think Sytia messer is doing great recruiting. If players want to relate to a younger coach then we have Kaylin rice!

i don't know her name. lets keep the recruiting going strong! Sic Em!