Kim Mulkey's crossroads: Her Baylor past, her LSU present & why no apologizing

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BATON ROUGE, La. -- It's early November, and Kim Mulkey is reclining on a white sofa in her new house. She has relocated from Baylor to Baton Rouge in one of the biggest coaching moves in women's basketball history. And just hours ago, she won her first game at LSU.

A half-eaten pizza and a newspaper are scattered on a white kitchen countertop nearby, fresh-baked cookies sit next to the stove. Mulkey glances at the television, where two top-10 women's teams are playing. It's opening day of the college basketball season.

The volume is nearly muted, like Mulkey's cellphone, which buzzes with congratulatory texts. Sage, her 4-month-old granddaughter, is the priority, sleeping soundly on Mulkey's chest. Outside on the front lawn, her daughter, Makenzie Fuller, and 3-year-old grandson, Kannon, toss a football in the afternoon sunlight. Mulkey's son, Kramer Robertson, comes and goes, along with friends and staff members.
Grandma Mulkey -- known as "Yaya" to Kannon and Sage -- is at this moment a far cry from the fiery figure on the sidelines, blazing eyes and tortured-looking facial expressions often immortalized on camera. On or off court, the coach's authenticity is both her superpower and Achilles' heel, winning over recruits and fans, and sparking controversy with a bluntness that is as synonymous with Mulkey as the three national titles she won at Baylor.

Mulkey is at the ultimate career crossroads. The 59-year-old Naismith Hall of Famer left a perpetual Final Four powerhouse she built from the ground up in Waco, Texas, and returned 50 miles from her childhood home to take over a program that has fallen into a middle-of-the-pack malaise. It's a homecoming with high expectations: Mulkey doesn't want to just turn around LSU, she wants to turn the Tigers into a national champion.

"I know what I've taken on," Mulkey said. "I understand how difficult it is."

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Jack Bauer
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And if you sift through all the reasons she had to stay at Baylor or move to LSU, it might come down to exactly that: She didn't want to be taken for granted. It's less ego than competitive survival instinct. Louisiana is her home, and that draw was strong. But LSU also told Mulkey very clearly that it needed her.

"I don't know if [Baylor] didn't think I would really do it," she said of the decision to leave. "Or if it was, 'Well, maybe they do just want me out the door. Maybe they'll say, 'Good riddance.'

"You have to keep feeding that success monster, and I didn't have a problem with that. I wasn't done at Baylor. That's the thing. No one saw this coming, myself included."
DFW Bill
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That's Kim, not perfect, just a great Coach that works 70 hours a week to win. Chloe has said Kim "taught her how to be a Champion" and was a relentless Coach, but always showing the players how much she cared about them. To quote numerous players "We know Coach Mulkey has our back."
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Happy to have our current coach and all good things must eventually come to an end, but boy did that make me feel sad. Time to thank Coach Mulkey for all she did for Baylor and turn the page to a new era. (But I'm sure this won't be the last story like this that is written).
WacoKelly83
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All this ESPN coverage is leading to her first real challenge as LSU coach. Ironically it's a game against old friend and rival Bill Fenelly and Iowa St. on ESPN2 tonight at 8.

I'll be watching.
Jack Bauer
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LSU hired Coach O...I don't think they are worried about what comes out of Kim's mouth so long as she wins.
Aliceinbubbleland
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From ESPN interview. Clipped to main focus

MAKENZIE PLAYED FOR Baylor's 40-0 national championship team in 2012, and was on Mulkey's coaching staff for the third championship in 2019. When her mother first mentioned the LSU job in April, Makenzie thought, "It's not gonna happen. I'm just gonna let this blow over."

Mulkey said the decision to leave was "extremely difficult" and had nothing to do with money.

"Let me tell you," Mulkey said, "Baylor took good care of me and my assistants."

But her relationship with Baylor athletic director Mack Rhoades was strained, which was obvious even in 2019. After Baylor won its third national championship and Mulkey got a question about her legacy, she responded that maybe her administration needed to be asked about that.

Mulkey had been hired by then-Baylor athletic director Tom Stanton in 2000 and spent most of her Baylor career under Ian McCaw, who succeeded Stanton beginning in 2003. Rhoades came to the school in 2016 after the sexual assault investigation prompted McCaw's resignation.

Mulkey and Rhoades clashed at times over what Mulkey called "little things" that for her represented something bigger. Mulkey, for instance, was upset the school wasn't planning to drop confetti in celebration of her team clinching the Big 12 title. To her, it didn't matter how many league championships the Bears had already won. It was a first for some of her players.
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Aliceinbubbleland
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Continued

After Baylor's second NCAA title in 2012, boosters began advocating for Mulkey's name to be put on the Ferrell Center floor. A source told ESPN the administration said it "wanted to wait" to do it because Mulkey, who turned 50 that year, was still relatively young in her career. Seven years later, after Baylor's third national championship, the boosters continued the quest, offering to pay whatever it cost to add Mulkey's name to the court. The Baylor administration still resisted, the source said.

Baylor is now in the process of building a new basketball arena, and the court will be named for donors Paula and Mark Hurd.

"Look, that didn't make me leave," she said. "But I will say, obviously, I never would have left a program that would have put my name on the court."

Rhoades declined to answer questions from ESPN, referring instead to a previously released statement: "Baylor will always be grateful for the years of success and pride Kim brought to the university. Kim made a decision to go back home and we, Baylor, had done as much as we could to support her and the program."

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Aliceinbubbleland
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First time ever I'm disappointed with Rhoades. The program had its donors and they weren't taking money from the AD kitty. What a ****ing waste to push her out the door.
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BleedGreen&Gold
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Rhodes is why Mulkey is gone. No other reason. They never even asked her to stay or what could they do to keep her. They told her best of luck at LSU. Best coach in Baylor history and our admin. let her walk away.
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WacoKelly83 said:

All this ESPN coverage is leading to her first real challenge as LSU coach. Ironically it's a game against old friend and rival Bill Fenelly and Iowa St. on ESPN2 tonight at 8.

I'll be watching.
Sheriff still firing on all chambers. Take down ISU 69-60
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WacoKelly83
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Although she was great I would argue that Clyde Hart is the greatest Baylor coach of all time. IMO.
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Let it go.
Method Man
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WacoKelly83 said:

Although she was great I would argue that Clyde Hart is the greatest Baylor coach of all time. IMO.
That title of GOAT of Baylor coaches was challenged after 2005.

It became Mulkey after going 40-0 and winning the 2012 National Title.
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WacoKelly83
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If an undefeated national collegiate title is the measure of greatness, then yes.

I tend to think coaching athletes to Olympic and World champions are much grander achievements. IMHO.

From Clyde Hart's profile at Baylor Athletics website

His pupils won an Olympic gold medal in six-straight Olympics (1996-2012) and at least two gold medals in five consecutive Olympic Games (2000-2012). In just the men's 400-meter event, Jeremy Wariner (2004) and Michael Johnson (1996, 2000) captured Olympic gold in three-straight Games. All-told, Hart has coached nine Olympians who have won a total of 13 Olympic gold medals, one silver and three bronze with Johnson claiming five gold medals, Wariner and Sanya Richards-Ross three, and Darold Williamson and Reggie Witherspoon one each.
Aliceinbubbleland
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Why not salute both rather than try and diminish one ?

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Task Force 2015
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How about greatest male coach and greatest female coach?
Lynnp550
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How about not wallowing in the past?
Brusinbear2001
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Well whatever it is that happened to make her leave it happened, KM was and is a great coach legend for our university. But i cannot say i am mad at where we are headed, what CNC did today i could not ever imagine KM doing. I honestly do not think KM would have even attended the mens game. Once we start winning she will win over this community. I cannot wait to see her succeed in the green and gold and add her mark on this university.
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Brusinbear2001 said:

Well whatever it is that happened to make her leave it happened, KM was and is a great coach legend for our university. But i cannot say i am mad at where we are headed, what CNC did today i could not ever imagine KM doing. I honestly do not think KM would have even attended the mens game. Once we start winning she will win over this community. I cannot wait to see her succeed in the green and gold and add her mark on this university.
One thing we agree about is CNC being successful! I want that to happen. Just don't be surprised to see a lot of spoiled fans turn on her if we do not succeed at the level we used to. She has a ridiculously hard job to follow a HOF, three time National Championship, coach. She seems great and is in my opinion doing everything she needs to do...please be patient with her though. There will be bumps....
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Brusinbear2001 said:

Well whatever it is that happened to make her leave it happened, KM was and is a great coach legend for our university. But i cannot say i am mad at where we are headed, what CNC did today i could not ever imagine KM doing. I honestly do not think KM would have even attended the mens game. Once we start winning she will win over this community. I cannot wait to see her succeed in the green and gold and add her mark on this university.
Her coming to our studio to talk basketball was also a first.
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WacoKelly83 said:

If an undefeated national collegiate title is the measure of greatness, then yes.

I tend to think coaching athletes to Olympic and World champions are much grander achievements. IMHO.

From Clyde Hart's profile at Baylor Athletics website

His pupils won an Olympic gold medal in six-straight Olympics (1996-2012) and at least two gold medals in five consecutive Olympic Games (2000-2012). In just the men's 400-meter event, Jeremy Wariner (2004) and Michael Johnson (1996, 2000) captured Olympic gold in three-straight Games. All-told, Hart has coached nine Olympians who have won a total of 13 Olympic gold medals, one silver and three bronze with Johnson claiming five gold medals, Wariner and Sanya Richards-Ross three, and Darold Williamson and Reggie Witherspoon one each.
Okay.

I'm not going to continue this debate.....but Brittney Griner was also an Olympic Gold Medalist.

I ran track in high school at a pretty high level. I know all about Clyde Hart and the tradition of the Baylor track and field team. Especially when it comes to the 400m dash.

3 National Titles (including a 40-0 National Champion) and 12 straight BIGXII titles in a row easily makes Coach Mulkey our most accomplished coach of all time.
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Method Man said:

WacoKelly83 said:

If an undefeated national collegiate title is the measure of greatness, then yes.

I tend to think coaching athletes to Olympic and World champions are much grander achievements. IMHO.

From Clyde Hart's profile at Baylor Athletics website

His pupils won an Olympic gold medal in six-straight Olympics (1996-2012) and at least two gold medals in five consecutive Olympic Games (2000-2012). In just the men's 400-meter event, Jeremy Wariner (2004) and Michael Johnson (1996, 2000) captured Olympic gold in three-straight Games. All-told, Hart has coached nine Olympians who have won a total of 13 Olympic gold medals, one silver and three bronze with Johnson claiming five gold medals, Wariner and Sanya Richards-Ross three, and Darold Williamson and Reggie Witherspoon one each.
Okay.

I'm not going to continue this debate.....but Brittney Griner was also an Olympic Gold Medalist.

I ran track in high school at a pretty high level. I know all about Clyde Hart and the tradition of the Baylor track and field team. Especially when it comes to the 400m dash.

3 National Titles (including a 40-0 National Champion) and 12 straight BIGXII titles in a row easily makes Coach Mulkey our most accomplished coach of all time.


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Brian Ethridge said:

Method Man said:

WacoKelly83 said:

If an undefeated national collegiate title is the measure of greatness, then yes.

I tend to think coaching athletes to Olympic and World champions are much grander achievements. IMHO.

From Clyde Hart's profile at Baylor Athletics website

His pupils won an Olympic gold medal in six-straight Olympics (1996-2012) and at least two gold medals in five consecutive Olympic Games (2000-2012). In just the men's 400-meter event, Jeremy Wariner (2004) and Michael Johnson (1996, 2000) captured Olympic gold in three-straight Games. All-told, Hart has coached nine Olympians who have won a total of 13 Olympic gold medals, one silver and three bronze with Johnson claiming five gold medals, Wariner and Sanya Richards-Ross three, and Darold Williamson and Reggie Witherspoon one each.
Okay.

I'm not going to continue this debate.....but Brittney Griner was also an Olympic Gold Medalist.

I ran track in high school at a pretty high level. I know all about Clyde Hart and the tradition of the Baylor track and field team. Especially when it comes to the 400m dash.

3 National Titles (including a 40-0 National Champion) and 12 straight BIGXII titles in a row easily makes Coach Mulkey our most accomplished coach of all time.


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This is comparing apples and bananas. Felicia only had to beat Oregon to win the Natty most of those times and the number and quality of athletic programs competing in A&T pales in comparison to what Kim had to face. Felicia also helped pioneer the sport and CKM took over a program that had some talent but had to be built from the ground up. Not even a comparison in difficulty. I am not a Kim apologist and don't like how she treated so many people or how she left the program but I guess I am in this one instance.
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Jack Bauer said:

And if you sift through all the reasons she had to stay at Baylor or move to LSU, it might come down to exactly that: She didn't want to be taken for granted. It's less ego than competitive survival instinct. Louisiana is her home, and that draw was strong. But LSU also told Mulkey very clearly that it needed her.

"I don't know if [Baylor] didn't think I would really do it," she said of the decision to leave. "Or if it was, 'Well, maybe they do just want me out the door. Maybe they'll say, 'Good riddance.'

"You have to keep feeding that success monster, and I didn't have a problem with that. I wasn't done at Baylor. That's the thing. No one saw this coming, myself included."


What does the word This equal in the last sentence? UT/OU to the SEC? The AD not giving her the things she wanted? Something else?
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ScottS said:

Jack Bauer said:

And if you sift through all the reasons she had to stay at Baylor or move to LSU, it might come down to exactly that: She didn't want to be taken for granted. It's less ego than competitive survival instinct. Louisiana is her home, and that draw was strong. But LSU also told Mulkey very clearly that it needed her.

"I don't know if [Baylor] didn't think I would really do it," she said of the decision to leave. "Or if it was, 'Well, maybe they do just want me out the door. Maybe they'll say, 'Good riddance.'

"You have to keep feeding that success monster, and I didn't have a problem with that. I wasn't done at Baylor. That's the thing. No one saw this coming, myself included."


What does the word This equal in the last sentence? UT/OU to the SEC? The AD not giving her the things she wanted? Something else?
'This' could simply be the fact that sometimes people (especially those with other viable options) wake up one day and decide they are no longer willing to deal with the a$$hat(s) they work for and make the decision to change their environment.
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Even though I'm posting on this thread, and therefore perpetuating it to a degree, I'd love if it just died a rather quick death. As Bob Seger once sang - "Turn the page."
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baylorbear33 said:

'This' could simply be the fact that sometimes people (especially those with other viable options) wake up one day and decide they are no longer willing to deal with the a$$hat(s) they have reporting to them and make the decision to change their environment.
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Adriacus Peratuun said:

baylorbear33 said:

'This' could simply be the fact that sometimes people (especially those with other viable options) wake up one day and decide they are no longer willing to deal with the a$$hat(s) they have reporting to them and make the decision to change their environment.
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baylorbear33 said:

Adriacus Peratuun said:

baylorbear33 said:

'This' could simply be the fact that sometimes people (especially those with other viable options) wake up one day and decide they are no longer willing to deal with the a$$hat(s) they have reporting to them and make the decision to change their environment.
FIFY
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T-REX said:

Brian Ethridge said:

Method Man said:

WacoKelly83 said:

If an undefeated national collegiate title is the measure of greatness, then yes.

I tend to think coaching athletes to Olympic and World champions are much grander achievements. IMHO.

From Clyde Hart's profile at Baylor Athletics website

His pupils won an Olympic gold medal in six-straight Olympics (1996-2012) and at least two gold medals in five consecutive Olympic Games (2000-2012). In just the men's 400-meter event, Jeremy Wariner (2004) and Michael Johnson (1996, 2000) captured Olympic gold in three-straight Games. All-told, Hart has coached nine Olympians who have won a total of 13 Olympic gold medals, one silver and three bronze with Johnson claiming five gold medals, Wariner and Sanya Richards-Ross three, and Darold Williamson and Reggie Witherspoon one each.
Okay.

I'm not going to continue this debate.....but Brittney Griner was also an Olympic Gold Medalist.

I ran track in high school at a pretty high level. I know all about Clyde Hart and the tradition of the Baylor track and field team. Especially when it comes to the 400m dash.

3 National Titles (including a 40-0 National Champion) and 12 straight BIGXII titles in a row easily makes Coach Mulkey our most accomplished coach of all time.


Felecia running 10 straight titles
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Clyde Hart didn't get to design the rules for the track meet on the back of a napkin.
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Dcheetah said:

This is comparing apples and bananas. Felicia only had to beat Oregon to win the Natty most of those times and the number and quality of athletic programs competing in A&T pales in comparison to what Kim had to face. Felicia also helped pioneer the sport and CKM took over a program that had some talent but had to be built from the ground up. Not even a comparison in difficulty. I am not a Kim apologist and don't like how she treated so many people or how she left the program but I guess I am in this one instance.


Comparing any sport to the other in titles is apple's to oranges. Which is my point.
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Brusinbear2001 said:

Well whatever it is that happened to make her leave it happened, KM was and is a great coach legend for our university. But i cannot say i am mad at where we are headed, what CNC did today i could not ever imagine KM doing. I honestly do not think KM would have even attended the mens game. Once we start winning she will win over this community. I cannot wait to see her succeed in the green and gold and add her mark on this university.
Kim and her team attended plenty of men's basketball games over the years. Baylor is in full PR mode trying to get fans to know CNC hence the high-visibility events. If Mulkey had been asked to do these same things in her earlier years I'm sure she would have done so as well. Those saying Kim wouldn't have done this or that are just wrong.
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