after the KSU series ,, we were in to host a regional.. did we lose that chance?

Unless we just absolutely roll through the tournament, we won't host.

We will not host

Latest projection has us in LSU regional playing Florida state ... this Stillwater debacle killed us..

@lsu or even @aggy.

- KKM

go bears!

me? i'll be @arbys.

I think getting to the finals of the big 12 tournament gives Baylor a pretty good shot at hosting a regional.

oldbear69 said:

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after the KSU series ,, we were in to host a regional.. did we lose that chance?

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We will be a 2 seed, probably in Baton Rouge. Way too late to earn a hosting spot now.

william said:

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me? i'll be @arbys.

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What seed?

Texasjeremy said:

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I think getting to the finals of the big 12 tournament gives Baylor a pretty good shot at hosting a regional.

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Baylor will play OU in the first round of the conference tournament, if we win we will simply stay around the 27 RPI we have now.

Assuming no upsets, the winner's bracket second round would put us up against Oklahoma State, a tough match up for us. A win there would bump us up about 5 spots to around 22 in RPI.

Again assuming no upsets, the winners bracket semifinal would put us up against Tech. Win there and we gain another 3 spots, due to the other teams playing well. That would get us to 19 in RPI.

But that's the peak. Not winning the regular season title, with Tech and OSU and probably WV already hosting regionals, it would be very hard for us to grab a host spot. We had a great chance when we were in line to win the regular season title, but it's long gone now.


If Baylor loses any games in the conference tournament, which is likely, our RPI will end up somewhere in the 20's even if we win the tournament. Lose quickly in the tournament and our RPI will finish in the 30s.

Oldbear83 said:

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Baylor will play OU in the first round of the conference tournament, if we win we will simply stay around the 27 RPI we have now.

Assuming no upsets, the winner's bracket second round would put us up against Oklahoma State, a tough match up for us. A win there would bump us up about 5 spots to around 22 in RPI.

Again assuming no upsets, the winners bracket semifinal would put us up against Tech. Win there and we gain another 3 spots, due to the other teams playing well. That would get us to 19 in RPI.

But that's the peak. Not winning the regular season title, with Tech and OSU and probably WV already hosting regionals, it would be very hard for us to grab a host spot. We had a great chance when we were in line to win the regular season title, but it's long gone now.
If Baylor loses any games in the conference tournament, which is likely, our RPI will end up somewhere in the 20's even if we win the tournament. Lose quickly in the tournament and our RPI will finish in the 30s.

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We would not see Tech until the finals on Sunday. They are in the other division.

Nguyen One Soon said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Baylor will play OU in the first round of the conference tournament, if we win we will simply stay around the 27 RPI we have now.

Assuming no upsets, the winner's bracket second round would put us up against Oklahoma State, a tough match up for us. A win there would bump us up about 5 spots to around 22 in RPI.

Again assuming no upsets, the winners bracket semifinal would put us up against Tech. Win there and we gain another 3 spots, due to the other teams playing well. That would get us to 19 in RPI.

But that's the peak. Not winning the regular season title, with Tech and OSU and probably WV already hosting regionals, it would be very hard for us to grab a host spot. We had a great chance when we were in line to win the regular season title, but it's long gone now.
If Baylor loses any games in the conference tournament, which is likely, our RPI will end up somewhere in the 20's even if we win the tournament. Lose quickly in the tournament and our RPI will finish in the 30s.

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We would not see Tech until the finals on Sunday. They are in the other division.

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Thanks, I forgot they changed the format a few years back.

Either way, there's no way to get to the top 16 fast enough for the committee to put us in and someone else out as a host.

Everyone needs to keep in mind, being in the top 16 in the RPI doesn't guarantee a host, more goes into it than that. I still believe getting to the finals of the Big 12 tournament give Baylor a shot (also depends on how other teams do in their tournaments) and winning the Big 12 tournament makes Baylor a virtual lock to host.

Texasjeremy said:

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Everyone needs to keep in mind, being in the top 16 in the RPI doesn't guarantee a host, more goes into it than that. I still believe getting to the finals of the Big 12 tournament give Baylor a shot (also depends on how other teams do in their tournaments) and winning the Big 12 tournament makes Baylor a virtual lock to host.

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True but a 27 RPI is too far back at this point for consideration. Too many good contenders in line ahead of us.

Oldbear83 said:

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Texasjeremy said:

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Everyone needs to keep in mind, being in the top 16 in the RPI doesn't guarantee a host, more goes into it than that. I still believe getting to the finals of the Big 12 tournament give Baylor a shot (also depends on how other teams do in their tournaments) and winning the Big 12 tournament makes Baylor a virtual lock to host.

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True but a 27 RPI is too far back at this point for consideration. Too many good contenders in line ahead of us.

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Another thing to remember, there are currently 10 SEC schools ahead of Baylor in the RPI (4 of them have losing conference records), they aren't all going to host (several of them will make quick exits in their conference tournaments).

All I saying is that yes, it looks to be impossible to get into the Top 16 of the RPI, I don't believe its out of reach (but definitely will not be easy) to get to host a regional. As close as a lot of these teams are, there will be teams win their spot by doing some damage in their conference tournament.. (Note: The Pac 12 & Big West don't have a conference tournament)

RPI TOP 30
.6376 - UCLA 45-8, 22-5 PAC 12
.6359 - Vanderbilt 45-10, 23-7 SEC
.6203 - Georgia 42-14, 21-9 SEC
.6182 - Mississippi State 45-11, 20-10 SEC
.6146 - East Carolina 42-13, 20-4 AAC
.6087 - Arkansas 40-15, 20-10 SEC
.6054 - Louisville 43-13, 21-9 ACC
.6017 - Oklahoma State 32-17, 14-9 Big 12
.5988 - Texas Tech 36-15, 16-8 Big 12
.5976 - Georgia Tech 38-16, 19-11 ACC
.5972 - Tennessee 38-18, 14-16 SEC
.5945 - Oregon State 35-16, 20-6 PAC 12
.5921 - UC Santa Barbara 44-7, 18-3 Big West
.5903 - Texas A&M 36-19, 16-13 SEC
.5903 - Stanford 39-10, 20-6 PAC 12
.5901 - West Virginia 34-18, 13-11 Big 12
.5861 - Miami 38-17, 18-12 ACC
.5857 - NC State 41-15, 18-12 ACC
.5830 - Auburn 32-23, 14-16 SEC
.5821 - North Carolina 38-17, 17-13 ACC
.5806 - LSU 34-22, 17-13 SEC
.5788 - Illinois 36-17, 15-9 Big Ten
.5772 - Creighton 35-11, 14-4 Big East
.5767 - Dallas Baptist 38-16, 14-7 MVC
.5760 - Florida 33-23, 13-17 SEC
.5750 - Missouri 34-21, 13-16 SEC
.5742 - Baylor 33-15, 14-8 Big 12
.5731 - Connecticut 33-22, 12-12 AAC
.5728 - Illinois State 32-22, 14-7 MVC
.5722 - Indiana 36-19, 17-7 Big Ten

Hate to be a pessimist, but given our continued injury situation and the fact that nobody ever stepped up as a 3rd starter, it's hard to see us coming out of either the Baton Rouge or College Station Regional. It's a shame, because with a full roster we had a CWS caliber team.

Texasjeremy said:

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All I saying is that yes, it looks to be impossible to get into the Top 16 of the RPI, I don't believe its out of reach (but definitely will not be easy) to get to host a regional. As close as a lot of these teams are, there will be teams win their spot by doing some damage in their conference tournament.. (Note: The Pac 12 & Big West don't have a conference tournament)

RPI TOP 30
.6376 - UCLA 45-8, 22-5 PAC 12
.6359 - Vanderbilt 45-10, 23-7 SEC
.6203 - Georgia 42-14, 21-9 SEC
.6182 - Mississippi State 45-11, 20-10 SEC
.6146 - East Carolina 42-13, 20-4 AAC
.6087 - Arkansas 40-15, 20-10 SEC
.6054 - Louisville 43-13, 21-9 ACC
.6017 - Oklahoma State 32-17, 14-9 Big 12
.5988 - Texas Tech 36-15, 16-8 Big 12
.5976 - Georgia Tech 38-16, 19-11 ACC
.5972 - Tennessee 38-18, 14-16 SEC
.5945 - Oregon State 35-16, 20-6 PAC 12
.5921 - UC Santa Barbara 44-7, 18-3 Big West
.5903 - Texas A&M 36-19, 16-13 SEC
.5903 - Stanford 39-10, 20-6 PAC 12
.5901 - West Virginia 34-18, 13-11 Big 12
.5861 - Miami 38-17, 18-12 ACC
.5857 - NC State 41-15, 18-12 ACC
.5830 - Auburn 32-23, 14-16 SEC
.5821 - North Carolina 38-17, 17-13 ACC
.5806 - LSU 34-22, 17-13 SEC
.5788 - Illinois 36-17, 15-9 Big Ten
.5772 - Creighton 35-11, 14-4 Big East
.5767 - Dallas Baptist 38-16, 14-7 MVC
.5760 - Florida 33-23, 13-17 SEC
.5750 - Missouri 34-21, 13-16 SEC
.5742 - Baylor 33-15, 14-8 Big 12
.5731 - Connecticut 33-22, 12-12 AAC
.5728 - Illinois State 32-22, 14-7 MVC
.5722 - Indiana 36-19, 17-7 Big Ten

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OK, so let's look at that field. First, keep in mind the committee wants as easy a job as possible, so the top 8 teams right now should be locks to host, no matter what happens in the next week.

That gives UCLA in California (West)
Vanderbilt in Tennessee (Midwest)
Georgia in Georgia (Southeast)
Mississippi State in Mississippi (Southeast)
East Carolina in North Carolina(East)
Arkansas in Arkansas (Southeast)
Louisville in Kentucky (Midwest) and
Oklahoma State in Oklahoma (Midwest)

That puts 4 SEC teams in host spots, and gives us 3 in the geographic Southeast, 3 in the Midwest, and 1 each in the West and East. The committee will want to put host teams in the Southwest, Northeast and Northwest, which supports Texas Tech (Texas, Southwest), Oregon (Oregon, Northwest), Texas A&M (Texas, Southwest), West Virginia (WV, East) and Illinois (Ill, North).

That brings us to 13 host spots, and breaks down by region this way:

3 in Southeast
3 in Midwest
2 in Southwest
2 in East
2 in Northwest
1 in North

The last three spots will be likely to go to schools like U Conn and North Carolina. Baylor is way in the back.

Offense has the potential and should be posting 6-7 runs per game. But had been inconstant lately. Not sure why we haven't heard anything on Wendzel nationally. Think it's strange considering he has been listed as day-to-day and had 9-10 days off to get right and still not in the lineup. The pitching staff is not capable I don't think of getting us through a regional. Tyler Thomas I think is our best option for a third starter, as he has looked good the last three weeks.

Oldbear83 said:

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Texasjeremy said:

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All I saying is that yes, it looks to be impossible to get into the Top 16 of the RPI, I don't believe its out of reach (but definitely will not be easy) to get to host a regional. As close as a lot of these teams are, there will be teams win their spot by doing some damage in their conference tournament.. (Note: The Pac 12 & Big West don't have a conference tournament)

RPI TOP 30
.6376 - UCLA 45-8, 22-5 PAC 12
.6359 - Vanderbilt 45-10, 23-7 SEC
.6203 - Georgia 42-14, 21-9 SEC
.6182 - Mississippi State 45-11, 20-10 SEC
.6146 - East Carolina 42-13, 20-4 AAC
.6087 - Arkansas 40-15, 20-10 SEC
.6054 - Louisville 43-13, 21-9 ACC
.6017 - Oklahoma State 32-17, 14-9 Big 12
.5988 - Texas Tech 36-15, 16-8 Big 12
.5976 - Georgia Tech 38-16, 19-11 ACC
.5972 - Tennessee 38-18, 14-16 SEC
.5945 - Oregon State 35-16, 20-6 PAC 12
.5921 - UC Santa Barbara 44-7, 18-3 Big West
.5903 - Texas A&M 36-19, 16-13 SEC
.5903 - Stanford 39-10, 20-6 PAC 12
.5901 - West Virginia 34-18, 13-11 Big 12
.5861 - Miami 38-17, 18-12 ACC
.5857 - NC State 41-15, 18-12 ACC
.5830 - Auburn 32-23, 14-16 SEC
.5821 - North Carolina 38-17, 17-13 ACC
.5806 - LSU 34-22, 17-13 SEC
.5788 - Illinois 36-17, 15-9 Big Ten
.5772 - Creighton 35-11, 14-4 Big East
.5767 - Dallas Baptist 38-16, 14-7 MVC
.5760 - Florida 33-23, 13-17 SEC
.5750 - Missouri 34-21, 13-16 SEC
.5742 - Baylor 33-15, 14-8 Big 12
.5731 - Connecticut 33-22, 12-12 AAC
.5728 - Illinois State 32-22, 14-7 MVC
.5722 - Indiana 36-19, 17-7 Big Ten

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OK, so let's look at that field. First, keep in mind the committee wants as easy a job as possible, so the top 8 teams right now should be locks to host, no matter what happens in the next week.

That gives UCLA in California (West)
Vanderbilt in Tennessee (Midwest)
Georgia in Georgia (Southeast)
Mississippi State in Mississippi (Southeast)
East Carolina in North Carolina(East)
Arkansas in Arkansas (Southeast)
Louisville in Kentucky (Midwest) and
Oklahoma State in Oklahoma (Midwest)

That puts 4 SEC teams in host spots, and gives us 3 in the geographic Southeast, 3 in the Midwest, and 1 each in the West and East. The committee will want to put host teams in the Southwest, Northeast and Northwest, which supports Texas Tech (Texas, Southwest), Oregon (Oregon, Northwest), Texas A&M (Texas, Southwest), West Virginia (WV, East) and Illinois (Ill, North).

That brings us to 13 host spots, and breaks down by region this way:

3 in Southeast
3 in Midwest
2 in Southwest
2 in East
2 in Northwest
1 in North

The last three spots will be likely to go to schools like U Conn and North Carolina. Baylor is way in the back.

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I get what you are saying (and you might be right), but I do feel like winning the Big 12 tournament gets Baylor a host site. Also, they no longer base hosts on regional location (trying to spread them out), like they have done in the past. Now, I am not saying they are going to win the Big 12 tournament, thats a big ask, but if they do and are sitting there on selection day with a 37-15 record having just won the Big 12 tournament (and finishing 2nd in the regular season), its going to be hard to pass over them and pick schools with 20+ losses, the Big 12 is the clear #2 conference in that nation (based on the RPI). Even after that debacle in Stillwater this weekend, the Baseball America & D1 Baseball polls still have Baylor at #18.

Be careful, the polls don't matter much to the committee when assigning host sites.

My gut tells me the committee will know who they want to host by the Friday before the official selection.

Never say never, but we are an extreme long shot to host. To feel good about it, we needed to win the two games in Stillwater this past weekend. We would've had a Top 18-20 RPI going into the B12 tournament and would've won the conference and it would've been extremely hard not to give us a host spot.

As-is, we'd need some crazy upsets and us to go an absolute tear. Just don't see enough runway left to improve our resume.

As far as regional goes- if this team catches fire, they can beat anyone. But in my experience, pitching wins regionals. The format rewards quality pitching depth and we've struggled with that. Granted, we've had injuries that have hurt us and that sucks but we are what we are - we simply aren't a "complete" team right now.

The cool thing about baseball is that teams do get hot. 2016 Coastal Carolina was a bit like that (they were an amazing hitting team all year and had a phenomenal #1 starter on the bump but their pitching started really gelling as a complete staff in the last 4-5 weeks of the season). 2008 Fresno State was REALLY like that. They barely made the tournament as a 4-seed but then went on a tear come tournament time and won that whole enchilada. That was a weird team but fun to watch the Cinderella run.

Either way, we just need to play well in Bricktown and then come out and get on the winners side of the bracket in whatever regional we get put in. The winners bracket does wonders. Hard coming out of the losers bracket unless you have tremendous depth.

We would need to win the Big XII tournament and play all the right teams.

Beating OU, OSU twice, and Tech in the championship could do the trick. It would at least put us in the mix. It's a long shot, but possible.

Johnny Bear said:

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Hate to be a pessimist, but given our continued injury situation and the fact that nobody ever stepped up as a 3rd starter, it's hard to see us coming out of either the Baton Rouge or College Station Regional. It's a shame, because with a full roster we had a CWS caliber team.

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That.

Pitching is money. But, these guys have played with heart & probably overachieved. Of course, Coach Rod is special.

these guys have over-achieved.

great job all around.

any word on bradford?

PA.

- UL

D1 has us at the @aggroid.

- KKM