What does it mean to say, "I am not a racist?"

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Wangchung said:

It means sometimes people dislike you because you're a *****, not because they're racist. Sometimes people want borders controlled for common sense safety reasons, not because they're racist. Sometimes people want to keep more of the money they earned rather than raise taxes, not because they're racist. Sometimes people don't like the idea of killing unborn humans as a means of birth control, not because they're racist. Sometimes people see the need for making sure an election is secure and accurate, not because they're racist. Sometimes people see the need for an identification for security reasons, not because they're racist. Sometimes people see the need to obey the police when caught, not because they're racist. Hope this helps.
My apologies for upsetting you and the 14 other folks who agree with you.
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You're about as upsetting as an unfunny television commercial. Your messages are typically vapid, your delivery is obvious virtue signaling and your premises are as flawed as they are racist. I mostly ignore you but sometimes even someone as low as you deserves to have some truth shoved into their faces, regardless of your obvious inability for self-reflection. I can only imagine the crowd of imbeciles it would take to be your echo chamber. But hey, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe, despite what you post, you know your stated opinions are garbage. Maybe, just maybe, you're learning more than you let on. One can only hope.
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Waco1947 said:

ATL Bear said:

They really phrase it as a question? Did they think they were and you advise them they weren't? Weird.
it's not about me. Why do people say it?
Punctuation matters.

Let's eat Grandma. Let's eat, Grandma.

Why do they say "I am not racist?"
Why do they say "I am not racist"?
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Wangchung said:

I mostly ignore you but sometimes even someone as low as you deserves to have some truth shoved into their faces, regardless of your obvious inability for self-reflection.


Just be grateful you are not the old fool's care nurse .

Probably calls her a 'racist' whenever his cookies are late .

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This is the problem..


These are concerned parents, not racists. They are exercising their democratic right to influence change, not threatening harm.
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Waco1947 said:

ATL Bear said:

They really phrase it as a question? Did they think they were and you advise them they weren't? Weird.
it's not about me. Why do people say it?
I have never said it, but I suppose that some people would say they're not racist in response to someone accusing them of being racist.
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Waco1947 said:

This response is what I often hear from white people.
What does it mean to say, "I am not a racist?"
It means they do not believe that a human being is superior or inferior on the basis of skin color tone or other ethnic physical characteristics.

It is the opposite of claiming to be racist, as you did in a post a year or two ago.
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In this day and age the left just calls anyone who is a white Christian a racist. I honestly could not care less if someone calls me that. I like all people that are not a-holes regardless of how tan, gay or funny looking or whatever they are.
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Wangchung said:

You're about as upsetting as an unfunny television commercial. Your messages are typically vapid, your delivery is obvious virtue signaling and your premises are as flawed as they are racist. I mostly ignore you but sometimes even someone as low as you deserves to have some truth shoved into their faces, regardless of your obvious inability for self-reflection. I can only imagine the crowd of imbeciles it would take to be your echo chamber. But hey, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe, despite what you post, you know your stated opinions are garbage. Maybe, just maybe, you're learning more than you let on. One can only hope.
My apologies for being vapid. Thank you for shoving truth in my face.

As to your assertions: "Your messages are typically vapid," I offered my apologies.

"Your delivery is obvious virtue signaling" What virtues am I signaling? Can you give a specific example?

"Your premises are as flawed as they are racist." What makes it racist to simply ask a question about comments that I have heard?

Keep me posted as to my flaws.
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muddybrazos said:

In this day and age the left just calls anyone who is a white Christian a racist. I honestly could not care less if someone calls me that. I like all people that are not a-holes regardless of how tan, gay or funny looking or whatever they are.
Although an interesting comment I am asking about people (probably not you) who might make this claim?

Has someone from "the left" called you' personally, a white Christian atheist?
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Waco1947 said:

Wangchung said:

You're about as upsetting as an unfunny television commercial. Your messages are typically vapid, your delivery is obvious virtue signaling and your premises are as flawed as they are racist. I mostly ignore you but sometimes even someone as low as you deserves to have some truth shoved into their faces, regardless of your obvious inability for self-reflection. I can only imagine the crowd of imbeciles it would take to be your echo chamber. But hey, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe, despite what you post, you know your stated opinions are garbage. Maybe, just maybe, you're learning more than you let on. One can only hope.
My apologies for being vapid. Thank you for shoving truth in my face. (You are most welcome. I truly hope it sinks in)

As to your assertions: "Your messages are typically vapid," I offered my apologies. (If your apology is genuine then you'll refrain from repeating the problem)

"Your delivery is obvious virtue signaling" What virtues am I signaling? Can you give a specific example? (Yes, your attempts to signal that you're some arbiter of racial truth are as disgusting as they are based on false premises)

"Your premises are as flawed as they are racist." What makes it racist to simply ask a question about comments that I have heard? ("Have you stopped beating your wife?" race based questions that are transparent attempts to frame the conversation as one side not willing or unable to admit their racism and the other side being you)

Keep me posted as to my flaws.(But you apologized, recognizing your errors, so either you're just going through the motions of apologizing and don't actually recognize your flaws, which is most likely the case, or you don't know HOW to stop making those errors and at least recognize your conversational deficiencies)
Happy to help.
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Waco1947 said:

Wangchung said:

It means sometimes people dislike you because you're a *****, not because they're racist. Sometimes people want borders controlled for common sense safety reasons, not because they're racist. Sometimes people want to keep more of the money they earned rather than raise taxes, not because they're racist. Sometimes people don't like the idea of killing unborn humans as a means of birth control, not because they're racist. Sometimes people see the need for making sure an election is secure and accurate, not because they're racist. Sometimes people see the need for an identification for security reasons, not because they're racist. Sometimes people see the need to obey the police when caught, not because they're racist. Hope this helps.
My apologies for upsetting you and the 14 other folks who agree with you.
So please give us the names of a few righteous white men that you don't believe are racists (Other than you and Joe Biden).

This should be good.
"Stand with anyone when he is right; Stand with him while he is right and part with him when he goes wrong." - Abraham Lincoln
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BearlySpeaking said:

Waco1947 said:

This response is what I often hear from white people.
What does it mean to say, "I am not a racist?"
It means they do not believe that a human being is superior or inferior on the basis of skin color tone or other ethnic physical characteristics.

It is the opposite of claiming to be racist, as you did in a post a year or two ago.
Yes, I said it because I was raised in the south, specifically Waco, Tx which is home to one the worst public lynching's in America in 1916. 10,00 people watched.
I began my public education in segregated schools in 1954. I never met or knew black kids until my teens.
I was raised on text books that said little about slavery or racism in America and never knew of the lynching in 1916.
The school board was white; the police force was white; and the city council was white so how do you think a 6-16 year fared in understanding racism and how might have I escaped that culture?

It was a Methodist regional camp in Fayetteville, Arkansas where I personally met and knew and talked with African-Americans and their lives. I stunned to discover black youth leaders who lived two miles from me an went to Methodist churches. I did not know them inWaco and had to to meet them in another state. By the way that c regional camp was the first integrated camp in the Methodist Church. It was the summer of 1964 and probably organized in response to MLK's "I have a dream" speech August 28, 1963.
We did all our activities together - bible study, recreation, worship, and eating together. When we left Mt Sequoyah and went down the mountain and headed back to Texas the African American cars were denied the right to eat in the restaurants on the way home.

My textbooks in High School led me to believe that Robert E Lee was a great leader and hero to the south; states rights was the cause of the Civil War (later I learned he was traitor); and the south would rise again and the lost cause had not died.

Does one escape racism in that cultural world? Am I racist-probably but I fight against it.

My family owned a coin operated laundry in South Waco and so Culture made a difference in how I saw the world. I saw that I was a racist and moved to change myself as quickly as I could. It's still a journey but I am learning and my African-American friends are helping me realize blind spots.

I am not virtue signaling although many claim that I am. How is it a virtue to say "I am racist?" That is not a virtue. It is honesty. I cannot change what I do not acknowledge.
Waco1947 ,la
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You literally shift the blame for your racism onto everything around you. No one can blame you for your racism in your youth, but to still blame that upbringing for your racism today is weak. If, by this point, you haven't learned to view other humans as other humans, that's your personal failing. You think by holding on to your guilt from the way you were raised and accepting any and all criticism from people with different skin tones as absolute truth you've become a better person? You're still viewing non-whites as "other" and using your chosen guilt as a means to paint other white people as racists. Your intentions might be good, but the road to hell is paved with good intent.
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Waco1947 said:

BearlySpeaking said:

Waco1947 said:

This response is what I often hear from white people.
What does it mean to say, "I am not a racist?"
It means they do not believe that a human being is superior or inferior on the basis of skin color tone or other ethnic physical characteristics.

It is the opposite of claiming to be racist, as you did in a post a year or two ago.
Yes, I said it because I was raised in the south, specifically Waco, Tx which is home to one the worst public lynching's in America in 1916. 10,00 people watched.
I began my public education in segregated schools in 1954. I never met or knew black kids until my teens.
I was raised on text books that said little about slavery or racism in America and never knew of the lynching in 1916.
The school board was white; the police force was white; and the city council was white so how do you think a 6-16 year fared in understanding racism and how might have I escaped that culture?

It was a Methodist regional camp in Fayetteville, Arkansas where I personally met and knew and talked with African-Americans and their lives. I stunned to discover black youth leaders who lived two miles from me an went to Methodist churches. I did not know them inWaco and had to to meet them in another state. By the way that c regional camp was the first integrated camp in the Methodist Church. It was the summer of 1964 and probably organized in response to MLK's "I have a dream" speech August 28, 1963.
We did all our activities together - bible study, recreation, worship, and eating together. When we left Mt Sequoyah and went down the mountain and headed back to Texas the African American cars were denied the right to eat in the restaurants on the way home.

My textbooks in High School led me to believe that Robert E Lee was a great leader and hero to the south; states rights was the cause of the Civil War (later I learned he was traitor); and the south would rise again and the lost cause had not died.

Does one escape racism in that cultural world? Am I racist-probably but I fight against it.

My family owned a coin operated laundry in South Waco and so Culture made a difference in how I saw the world. I saw that I was a racist and moved to change myself as quickly as I could. It's still a journey but I am learning and my African-American friends are helping me realize blind spots.

I am not virtue signaling although many claim that I am. How is it a virtue to say "I am racist?" That is not a virtue. It is honesty. I cannot change what I do not acknowledge.
The "I am racist" might not be virtue signaling, but the "but I fights against it", is the virtue signaling part.

What you did there is closely related to the humblebrag
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Rawhide said:

Waco1947 said:

BearlySpeaking said:

Waco1947 said:

This response is what I often hear from white people.
What does it mean to say, "I am not a racist?"
It means they do not believe that a human being is superior or inferior on the basis of skin color tone or other ethnic physical characteristics.

It is the opposite of claiming to be racist, as you did in a post a year or two ago.
Yes, I said it because I was raised in the south, specifically Waco, Tx which is home to one the worst public lynching's in America in 1916. 10,00 people watched.
I began my public education in segregated schools in 1954. I never met or knew black kids until my teens.
I was raised on text books that said little about slavery or racism in America and never knew of the lynching in 1916.
The school board was white; the police force was white; and the city council was white so how do you think a 6-16 year fared in understanding racism and how might have I escaped that culture?

It was a Methodist regional camp in Fayetteville, Arkansas where I personally met and knew and talked with African-Americans and their lives. I stunned to discover black youth leaders who lived two miles from me an went to Methodist churches. I did not know them inWaco and had to to meet them in another state. By the way that c regional camp was the first integrated camp in the Methodist Church. It was the summer of 1964 and probably organized in response to MLK's "I have a dream" speech August 28, 1963.
We did all our activities together - bible study, recreation, worship, and eating together. When we left Mt Sequoyah and went down the mountain and headed back to Texas the African American cars were denied the right to eat in the restaurants on the way home.

My textbooks in High School led me to believe that Robert E Lee was a great leader and hero to the south; states rights was the cause of the Civil War (later I learned he was traitor); and the south would rise again and the lost cause had not died.

Does one escape racism in that cultural world? Am I racist-probably but I fight against it.

My family owned a coin operated laundry in South Waco and so Culture made a difference in how I saw the world. I saw that I was a racist and moved to change myself as quickly as I could. It's still a journey but I am learning and my African-American friends are helping me realize blind spots.

I am not virtue signaling although many claim that I am. How is it a virtue to say "I am racist?" That is not a virtue. It is honesty. I cannot change what I do not acknowledge.
The "I am racist" might not be virtue signaling, but the "but I fights against it", is the virtue signaling part.

What you did there is closely related to the humblebrag
Yes I fight against it. What should I be dishonest about it?
Look I am damned if I do and damned if I don't by a declaration about being racist.
I am racist by my cultural world. What would world were you raised in?
Is it virtue signaling for you to say, "I am not racist?"
Are you a racist? If the answer is "No!" Then are you virtue signaling?
Or like so many posters on this thread who say "I don't give rip who you are I accept all people." Is that comment virtue signaling? It may be crass but it still says, "I am better than a racist or lefty." Sounds like pride to me.
I was raised in the 50s and 60s. Can escape my culture like it never existed? I am simply being honest

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Rawhide said:

Waco1947 said:

BearlySpeaking said:

Waco1947 said:

This response is what I often hear from white people.
What does it mean to say, "I am not a racist?"
It means they do not believe that a human being is superior or inferior on the basis of skin color tone or other ethnic physical characteristics.

It is the opposite of claiming to be racist, as you did in a post a year or two ago.
Yes, I said it because I was raised in the south, specifically Waco, Tx which is home to one the worst public lynching's in America in 1916. 10,00 people watched.
I began my public education in segregated schools in 1954. I never met or knew black kids until my teens.
I was raised on text books that said little about slavery or racism in America and never knew of the lynching in 1916.
The school board was white; the police force was white; and the city council was white so how do you think a 6-16 year fared in understanding racism and how might have I escaped that culture?

It was a Methodist regional camp in Fayetteville, Arkansas where I personally met and knew and talked with African-Americans and their lives. I stunned to discover black youth leaders who lived two miles from me an went to Methodist churches. I did not know them inWaco and had to to meet them in another state. By the way that c regional camp was the first integrated camp in the Methodist Church. It was the summer of 1964 and probably organized in response to MLK's "I have a dream" speech August 28, 1963.
We did all our activities together - bible study, recreation, worship, and eating together. When we left Mt Sequoyah and went down the mountain and headed back to Texas the African American cars were denied the right to eat in the restaurants on the way home.

My textbooks in High School led me to believe that Robert E Lee was a great leader and hero to the south; states rights was the cause of the Civil War (later I learned he was traitor); and the south would rise again and the lost cause had not died.

Does one escape racism in that cultural world? Am I racist-probably but I fight against it.

My family owned a coin operated laundry in South Waco and so Culture made a difference in how I saw the world. I saw that I was a racist and moved to change myself as quickly as I could. It's still a journey but I am learning and my African-American friends are helping me realize blind spots.

I am not virtue signaling although many claim that I am. How is it a virtue to say "I am racist?" That is not a virtue. It is honesty. I cannot change what I do not acknowledge.
The "I am racist" might not be virtue signaling, but the "but I fights against it", is the virtue signaling part.

What you did there is closely related to the humblebrag
You ignored my story. What's your racial story? Are you willing to put yourself out there? Did you escape cultural racism?
Waco1947 ,la
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4th and Inches said:




If she is smart enough to grift weak minded foolish people out of their money she has game. I disagree with her grift, but I have to admire her guile and ability.
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Waco1947 said:

Rawhide said:

Waco1947 said:

BearlySpeaking said:

Waco1947 said:

This response is what I often hear from white people.
What does it mean to say, "I am not a racist?"
It means they do not believe that a human being is superior or inferior on the basis of skin color tone or other ethnic physical characteristics.

It is the opposite of claiming to be racist, as you did in a post a year or two ago.
Yes, I said it because I was raised in the south, specifically Waco, Tx which is home to one the worst public lynching's in America in 1916. 10,00 people watched.
I began my public education in segregated schools in 1954. I never met or knew black kids until my teens.
I was raised on text books that said little about slavery or racism in America and never knew of the lynching in 1916.
The school board was white; the police force was white; and the city council was white so how do you think a 6-16 year fared in understanding racism and how might have I escaped that culture?

It was a Methodist regional camp in Fayetteville, Arkansas where I personally met and knew and talked with African-Americans and their lives. I stunned to discover black youth leaders who lived two miles from me an went to Methodist churches. I did not know them inWaco and had to to meet them in another state. By the way that c regional camp was the first integrated camp in the Methodist Church. It was the summer of 1964 and probably organized in response to MLK's "I have a dream" speech August 28, 1963.
We did all our activities together - bible study, recreation, worship, and eating together. When we left Mt Sequoyah and went down the mountain and headed back to Texas the African American cars were denied the right to eat in the restaurants on the way home.

My textbooks in High School led me to believe that Robert E Lee was a great leader and hero to the south; states rights was the cause of the Civil War (later I learned he was traitor); and the south would rise again and the lost cause had not died.

Does one escape racism in that cultural world? Am I racist-probably but I fight against it.

My family owned a coin operated laundry in South Waco and so Culture made a difference in how I saw the world. I saw that I was a racist and moved to change myself as quickly as I could. It's still a journey but I am learning and my African-American friends are helping me realize blind spots.

I am not virtue signaling although many claim that I am. How is it a virtue to say "I am racist?" That is not a virtue. It is honesty. I cannot change what I do not acknowledge.
The "I am racist" might not be virtue signaling, but the "but I fights against it", is the virtue signaling part.

What you did there is closely related to the humblebrag
Yes I fight against it. What should I be dishonest about it?
Look I am damned if I do and damned if I don't by a declaration about being racist.
I am racist by my cultural world. What would world were you raised in?
Is it virtue signaling for you to say, "I am not racist?"
Are you a racist? If the answer is "No!" Then are you virtue signaling?
Or like so many posters on this thread who say "I don't give rip who you are I accept all people." Is that comment virtue signaling? It may be crass but it still says, "I am better than a racist or lefty." Sounds like pride to me.
I was raised in the 50s and 60s. Can escape my culture like it never existed? I am simply being honest


If you weren't able to overcome your racism fron the 50s and 60s, that is your problem. Nobody elses. Once a bigot, always a bigot, I guess. By your own admission. Thank you for your honesty.
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Waco1947 said:

BearlySpeaking said:

Waco1947 said:

This response is what I often hear from white people.
What does it mean to say, "I am not a racist?"
It means they do not believe that a human being is superior or inferior on the basis of skin color tone or other ethnic physical characteristics.

It is the opposite of claiming to be racist, as you did in a post a year or two ago.
Yes, I said it because I was raised in the south, specifically Waco, Tx which is home to one the worst public lynching's in America in 1916. 10,00 people watched.
I began my public education in segregated schools in 1954. I never met or knew black kids until my teens.
I was raised on text books that said little about slavery or racism in America and never knew of the lynching in 1916.
The school board was white; the police force was white; and the city council was white so how do you think a 6-16 year fared in understanding racism and how might have I escaped that culture?

It was a Methodist regional camp in Fayetteville, Arkansas where I personally met and knew and talked with African-Americans and their lives. I stunned to discover black youth leaders who lived two miles from me an went to Methodist churches. I did not know them inWaco and had to to meet them in another state. By the way that c regional camp was the first integrated camp in the Methodist Church. It was the summer of 1964 and probably organized in response to MLK's "I have a dream" speech August 28, 1963.
We did all our activities together - bible study, recreation, worship, and eating together. When we left Mt Sequoyah and went down the mountain and headed back to Texas the African American cars were denied the right to eat in the restaurants on the way home.

My textbooks in High School led me to believe that Robert E Lee was a great leader and hero to the south; states rights was the cause of the Civil War (later I learned he was traitor); and the south would rise again and the lost cause had not died.

Does one escape racism in that cultural world? Am I racist-probably but I fight against it.

My family owned a coin operated laundry in South Waco and so Culture made a difference in how I saw the world. I saw that I was a racist and moved to change myself as quickly as I could. It's still a journey but I am learning and my African-American friends are helping me realize blind spots.

I am not virtue signaling although many claim that I am. How is it a virtue to say "I am racist?" That is not a virtue. It is honesty. I cannot change what I do not acknowledge.
"Cultural racism" is not an excuse. My grandfather grew up in southeast Texas. He did not stand by when people were treated as inferior for their skin color, and he pissed some people off, including one of his bosses. You did not stand up in these situations, either because you chose to believe other people were inferior to you on the basis of skin color, or because you were afraid to stand up to people around you on this issue.

By the time you turned 12 - 13, you had a choice to make on racism. It's clear you wrestle with personal demons on this issue. You might reconsider whether your personal failings on racism are automatically shared by anyone else by virtue of sharing your skin color. People are not the same as you just because they have a similar skin tone as you, and they don't necessarily share in your personal guilt just because the shade of their skin is within some color range relative to your skin.

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Waco1947 said:

Rawhide said:

Waco1947 said:

BearlySpeaking said:

Waco1947 said:

This response is what I often hear from white people.
What does it mean to say, "I am not a racist?"
It means they do not believe that a human being is superior or inferior on the basis of skin color tone or other ethnic physical characteristics.

It is the opposite of claiming to be racist, as you did in a post a year or two ago.
Yes, I said it because I was raised in the south, specifically Waco, Tx which is home to one the worst public lynching's in America in 1916. 10,00 people watched.
I began my public education in segregated schools in 1954. I never met or knew black kids until my teens.
I was raised on text books that said little about slavery or racism in America and never knew of the lynching in 1916.
The school board was white; the police force was white; and the city council was white so how do you think a 6-16 year fared in understanding racism and how might have I escaped that culture?

It was a Methodist regional camp in Fayetteville, Arkansas where I personally met and knew and talked with African-Americans and their lives. I stunned to discover black youth leaders who lived two miles from me an went to Methodist churches. I did not know them inWaco and had to to meet them in another state. By the way that c regional camp was the first integrated camp in the Methodist Church. It was the summer of 1964 and probably organized in response to MLK's "I have a dream" speech August 28, 1963.
We did all our activities together - bible study, recreation, worship, and eating together. When we left Mt Sequoyah and went down the mountain and headed back to Texas the African American cars were denied the right to eat in the restaurants on the way home.

My textbooks in High School led me to believe that Robert E Lee was a great leader and hero to the south; states rights was the cause of the Civil War (later I learned he was traitor); and the south would rise again and the lost cause had not died.

Does one escape racism in that cultural world? Am I racist-probably but I fight against it.

My family owned a coin operated laundry in South Waco and so Culture made a difference in how I saw the world. I saw that I was a racist and moved to change myself as quickly as I could. It's still a journey but I am learning and my African-American friends are helping me realize blind spots.

I am not virtue signaling although many claim that I am. How is it a virtue to say "I am racist?" That is not a virtue. It is honesty. I cannot change what I do not acknowledge.
The "I am racist" might not be virtue signaling, but the "but I fights against it", is the virtue signaling part.

What you did there is closely related to the humblebrag
Yes I fight against it. What should I be dishonest about it?
Look I am damned if I do and damned if I don't by a declaration about being racist.
I am racist by my cultural world. What would world were you raised in?
Is it virtue signaling for you to say, "I am not racist?"
Are you a racist? If the answer is "No!" Then are you virtue signaling?
Or like so many posters on this thread who say "I don't give rip who you are I accept all people." Is that comment virtue signaling? It may be crass but it still says, "I am better than a racist or lefty." Sounds like pride to me.
I was raised in the 50s and 60s. Can escape my culture like it never existed? I am simply being honest


Dude, you have an unhealthy obsession with racism; even where it doesn't exist.
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Waco1947 said:

Rawhide said:

Waco1947 said:

BearlySpeaking said:

Waco1947 said:

This response is what I often hear from white people.
What does it mean to say, "I am not a racist?"
It means they do not believe that a human being is superior or inferior on the basis of skin color tone or other ethnic physical characteristics.

It is the opposite of claiming to be racist, as you did in a post a year or two ago.
Yes, I said it because I was raised in the south, specifically Waco, Tx which is home to one the worst public lynching's in America in 1916. 10,00 people watched.
I began my public education in segregated schools in 1954. I never met or knew black kids until my teens.
I was raised on text books that said little about slavery or racism in America and never knew of the lynching in 1916.
The school board was white; the police force was white; and the city council was white so how do you think a 6-16 year fared in understanding racism and how might have I escaped that culture?

It was a Methodist regional camp in Fayetteville, Arkansas where I personally met and knew and talked with African-Americans and their lives. I stunned to discover black youth leaders who lived two miles from me an went to Methodist churches. I did not know them inWaco and had to to meet them in another state. By the way that c regional camp was the first integrated camp in the Methodist Church. It was the summer of 1964 and probably organized in response to MLK's "I have a dream" speech August 28, 1963.
We did all our activities together - bible study, recreation, worship, and eating together. When we left Mt Sequoyah and went down the mountain and headed back to Texas the African American cars were denied the right to eat in the restaurants on the way home.

My textbooks in High School led me to believe that Robert E Lee was a great leader and hero to the south; states rights was the cause of the Civil War (later I learned he was traitor); and the south would rise again and the lost cause had not died.

Does one escape racism in that cultural world? Am I racist-probably but I fight against it.

My family owned a coin operated laundry in South Waco and so Culture made a difference in how I saw the world. I saw that I was a racist and moved to change myself as quickly as I could. It's still a journey but I am learning and my African-American friends are helping me realize blind spots.

I am not virtue signaling although many claim that I am. How is it a virtue to say "I am racist?" That is not a virtue. It is honesty. I cannot change what I do not acknowledge.
The "I am racist" might not be virtue signaling, but the "but I fights against it", is the virtue signaling part.

What you did there is closely related to the humblebrag
You ignored my story. What's your racial story? Are you willing to put yourself out there? Did you escape cultural racism?
You need professional help. So it's cultural racism now? What happened to systemic racism?
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What is the point of this thread? Everyone is racist technically to some degree. Congratulations - we figured it out.
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Waco1947 said:

Rawhide said:

Waco1947 said:

BearlySpeaking said:

Waco1947 said:

This response is what I often hear from white people.
What does it mean to say, "I am not a racist?"
It means they do not believe that a human being is superior or inferior on the basis of skin color tone or other ethnic physical characteristics.

It is the opposite of claiming to be racist, as you did in a post a year or two ago.
Yes, I said it because I was raised in the south, specifically Waco, Tx which is home to one the worst public lynching's in America in 1916. 10,00 people watched.
I began my public education in segregated schools in 1954. I never met or knew black kids until my teens.
I was raised on text books that said little about slavery or racism in America and never knew of the lynching in 1916.
The school board was white; the police force was white; and the city council was white so how do you think a 6-16 year fared in understanding racism and how might have I escaped that culture?

It was a Methodist regional camp in Fayetteville, Arkansas where I personally met and knew and talked with African-Americans and their lives. I stunned to discover black youth leaders who lived two miles from me an went to Methodist churches. I did not know them inWaco and had to to meet them in another state. By the way that c regional camp was the first integrated camp in the Methodist Church. It was the summer of 1964 and probably organized in response to MLK's "I have a dream" speech August 28, 1963.
We did all our activities together - bible study, recreation, worship, and eating together. When we left Mt Sequoyah and went down the mountain and headed back to Texas the African American cars were denied the right to eat in the restaurants on the way home.

My textbooks in High School led me to believe that Robert E Lee was a great leader and hero to the south; states rights was the cause of the Civil War (later I learned he was traitor); and the south would rise again and the lost cause had not died.

Does one escape racism in that cultural world? Am I racist-probably but I fight against it.

My family owned a coin operated laundry in South Waco and so Culture made a difference in how I saw the world. I saw that I was a racist and moved to change myself as quickly as I could. It's still a journey but I am learning and my African-American friends are helping me realize blind spots.

I am not virtue signaling although many claim that I am. How is it a virtue to say "I am racist?" That is not a virtue. It is honesty. I cannot change what I do not acknowledge.
The "I am racist" might not be virtue signaling, but the "but I fights against it", is the virtue signaling part.

What you did there is closely related to the humblebrag
You ignored my story. What's your racial story? Are you willing to put yourself out there? Did you escape cultural racism?
You didn't escape cultural racism. You doubled down on it.



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Rawhide said:

Waco1947 said:

BearlySpeaking said:

Waco1947 said:

This response is what I often hear from white people.
What does it mean to say, "I am not a racist?"
It means they do not believe that a human being is superior or inferior on the basis of skin color tone or other ethnic physical characteristics.

It is the opposite of claiming to be racist, as you did in a post a year or two ago.
Yes, I said it because I was raised in the south, specifically Waco, Tx which is home to one the worst public lynching's in America in 1916. 10,00 people watched.
I began my public education in segregated schools in 1954. I never met or knew black kids until my teens.
I was raised on text books that said little about slavery or racism in America and never knew of the lynching in 1916.
The school board was white; the police force was white; and the city council was white so how do you think a 6-16 year fared in understanding racism and how might have I escaped that culture?

It was a Methodist regional camp in Fayetteville, Arkansas where I personally met and knew and talked with African-Americans and their lives. I stunned to discover black youth leaders who lived two miles from me an went to Methodist churches. I did not know them inWaco and had to to meet them in another state. By the way that c regional camp was the first integrated camp in the Methodist Church. It was the summer of 1964 and probably organized in response to MLK's "I have a dream" speech August 28, 1963.
We did all our activities together - bible study, recreation, worship, and eating together. When we left Mt Sequoyah and went down the mountain and headed back to Texas the African American cars were denied the right to eat in the restaurants on the way home.

My textbooks in High School led me to believe that Robert E Lee was a great leader and hero to the south; states rights was the cause of the Civil War (later I learned he was traitor); and the south would rise again and the lost cause had not died.

Does one escape racism in that cultural world? Am I racist-probably but I fight against it.

My family owned a coin operated laundry in South Waco and so Culture made a difference in how I saw the world. I saw that I was a racist and moved to change myself as quickly as I could. It's still a journey but I am learning and my African-American friends are helping me realize blind spots.

I am not virtue signaling although many claim that I am. How is it a virtue to say "I am racist?" That is not a virtue. It is honesty. I cannot change what I do not acknowledge.


What you did there is closely related to the humblebrag
chuckle

The old fool has been doing it for years .

Anything to garner attention and so remind himself he actually exists outside of the nursing home routine .
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Canada2017 said:

Rawhide said:

Waco1947 said:

BearlySpeaking said:

Waco1947 said:

This response is what I often hear from white people.
What does it mean to say, "I am not a racist?"
It means they do not believe that a human being is superior or inferior on the basis of skin color tone or other ethnic physical characteristics.

It is the opposite of claiming to be racist, as you did in a post a year or two ago.
Yes, I said it because I was raised in the south, specifically Waco, Tx which is home to one the worst public lynching's in America in 1916. 10,00 people watched.
I began my public education in segregated schools in 1954. I never met or knew black kids until my teens.
I was raised on text books that said little about slavery or racism in America and never knew of the lynching in 1916.
The school board was white; the police force was white; and the city council was white so how do you think a 6-16 year fared in understanding racism and how might have I escaped that culture?

It was a Methodist regional camp in Fayetteville, Arkansas where I personally met and knew and talked with African-Americans and their lives. I stunned to discover black youth leaders who lived two miles from me an went to Methodist churches. I did not know them inWaco and had to to meet them in another state. By the way that c regional camp was the first integrated camp in the Methodist Church. It was the summer of 1964 and probably organized in response to MLK's "I have a dream" speech August 28, 1963.
We did all our activities together - bible study, recreation, worship, and eating together. When we left Mt Sequoyah and went down the mountain and headed back to Texas the African American cars were denied the right to eat in the restaurants on the way home.

My textbooks in High School led me to believe that Robert E Lee was a great leader and hero to the south; states rights was the cause of the Civil War (later I learned he was traitor); and the south would rise again and the lost cause had not died.

Does one escape racism in that cultural world? Am I racist-probably but I fight against it.

My family owned a coin operated laundry in South Waco and so Culture made a difference in how I saw the world. I saw that I was a racist and moved to change myself as quickly as I could. It's still a journey but I am learning and my African-American friends are helping me realize blind spots.

I am not virtue signaling although many claim that I am. How is it a virtue to say "I am racist?" That is not a virtue. It is honesty. I cannot change what I do not acknowledge.


What you did there is closely related to the humblebrag
chuckle

The old fool has been doing it for years .

Anything to garner attention and so remind himself he actually exists outside of the nursing home routine .
Honestly, it is not his fault. Liberal clergy in the South are obsessed with racism. I mean there is more gnashing of teeth about America in the 50s than saving souls.
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Harrison Bergeron said:

Canada2017 said:

Rawhide said:

Waco1947 said:

BearlySpeaking said:

Waco1947 said:

This response is what I often hear from white people.
What does it mean to say, "I am not a racist?"
It means they do not believe that a human being is superior or inferior on the basis of skin color tone or other ethnic physical characteristics.

It is the opposite of claiming to be racist, as you did in a post a year or two ago.
Yes, I said it because I was raised in the south, specifically Waco, Tx which is home to one the worst public lynching's in America in 1916. 10,00 people watched.
I began my public education in segregated schools in 1954. I never met or knew black kids until my teens.
I was raised on text books that said little about slavery or racism in America and never knew of the lynching in 1916.
The school board was white; the police force was white; and the city council was white so how do you think a 6-16 year fared in understanding racism and how might have I escaped that culture?

It was a Methodist regional camp in Fayetteville, Arkansas where I personally met and knew and talked with African-Americans and their lives. I stunned to discover black youth leaders who lived two miles from me an went to Methodist churches. I did not know them inWaco and had to to meet them in another state. By the way that c regional camp was the first integrated camp in the Methodist Church. It was the summer of 1964 and probably organized in response to MLK's "I have a dream" speech August 28, 1963.
We did all our activities together - bible study, recreation, worship, and eating together. When we left Mt Sequoyah and went down the mountain and headed back to Texas the African American cars were denied the right to eat in the restaurants on the way home.

My textbooks in High School led me to believe that Robert E Lee was a great leader and hero to the south; states rights was the cause of the Civil War (later I learned he was traitor); and the south would rise again and the lost cause had not died.

Does one escape racism in that cultural world? Am I racist-probably but I fight against it.

My family owned a coin operated laundry in South Waco and so Culture made a difference in how I saw the world. I saw that I was a racist and moved to change myself as quickly as I could. It's still a journey but I am learning and my African-American friends are helping me realize blind spots.

I am not virtue signaling although many claim that I am. How is it a virtue to say "I am racist?" That is not a virtue. It is honesty. I cannot change what I do not acknowledge.


What you did there is closely related to the humblebrag
chuckle

The old fool has been doing it for years .

Anything to garner attention and so remind himself he actually exists outside of the nursing home routine .
Honestly, it is not his fault. Liberal clergy in the South are obsessed with racism. I mean there is more gnashing of teeth about America in the 50s than saving souls.
Ask him about abortion. In his world, if you are pro-life, you are sexist.

Just don't get him going about butt sex salvation.
Your ideas are intriguing to me, and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
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Waco1947 said:

Rawhide said:

Waco1947 said:

BearlySpeaking said:

Waco1947 said:

This response is what I often hear from white people.
What does it mean to say, "I am not a racist?"
It means they do not believe that a human being is superior or inferior on the basis of skin color tone or other ethnic physical characteristics.

It is the opposite of claiming to be racist, as you did in a post a year or two ago.
Yes, I said it because I was raised in the south, specifically Waco, Tx which is home to one the worst public lynching's in America in 1916. 10,00 people watched.
I began my public education in segregated schools in 1954. I never met or knew black kids until my teens.
I was raised on text books that said little about slavery or racism in America and never knew of the lynching in 1916.
The school board was white; the police force was white; and the city council was white so how do you think a 6-16 year fared in understanding racism and how might have I escaped that culture?

It was a Methodist regional camp in Fayetteville, Arkansas where I personally met and knew and talked with African-Americans and their lives. I stunned to discover black youth leaders who lived two miles from me an went to Methodist churches. I did not know them inWaco and had to to meet them in another state. By the way that c regional camp was the first integrated camp in the Methodist Church. It was the summer of 1964 and probably organized in response to MLK's "I have a dream" speech August 28, 1963.
We did all our activities together - bible study, recreation, worship, and eating together. When we left Mt Sequoyah and went down the mountain and headed back to Texas the African American cars were denied the right to eat in the restaurants on the way home.

My textbooks in High School led me to believe that Robert E Lee was a great leader and hero to the south; states rights was the cause of the Civil War (later I learned he was traitor); and the south would rise again and the lost cause had not died.

Does one escape racism in that cultural world? Am I racist-probably but I fight against it.

My family owned a coin operated laundry in South Waco and so Culture made a difference in how I saw the world. I saw that I was a racist and moved to change myself as quickly as I could. It's still a journey but I am learning and my African-American friends are helping me realize blind spots.

I am not virtue signaling although many claim that I am. How is it a virtue to say "I am racist?" That is not a virtue. It is honesty. I cannot change what I do not acknowledge.
The "I am racist" might not be virtue signaling, but the "but I fights against it", is the virtue signaling part.

What you did there is closely related to the humblebrag
Yes I fight against it. What should I be dishonest about it?
Look I am damned if I do and damned if I don't by a declaration about being racist.
I am racist by my cultural world. What would world were you raised in?
Is it virtue signaling for you to say, "I am not racist?"
Are you a racist? If the answer is "No!" Then are you virtue signaling?
Or like so many posters on this thread who say "I don't give rip who you are I accept all people." Is that comment virtue signaling? It may be crass but it still says, "I am better than a racist or lefty." Sounds like pride to me.
I was raised in the 50s and 60s. Can escape my culture like it never existed? I am simply being honest


Do you really believe that you are still a racist, but you are constantly fighting against your internal racism?
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Harrison Bergeron said:

Canada2017 said:

Rawhide said:

Waco1947 said:

BearlySpeaking said:

Waco1947 said:

This response is what I often hear from white people.
What does it mean to say, "I am not a racist?"
It means they do not believe that a human being is superior or inferior on the basis of skin color tone or other ethnic physical characteristics.

It is the opposite of claiming to be racist, as you did in a post a year or two ago.
Yes, I said it because I was raised in the south, specifically Waco, Tx which is home to one the worst public lynching's in America in 1916. 10,00 people watched.
I began my public education in segregated schools in 1954. I never met or knew black kids until my teens.
I was raised on text books that said little about slavery or racism in America and never knew of the lynching in 1916.
The school board was white; the police force was white; and the city council was white so how do you think a 6-16 year fared in understanding racism and how might have I escaped that culture?

It was a Methodist regional camp in Fayetteville, Arkansas where I personally met and knew and talked with African-Americans and their lives. I stunned to discover black youth leaders who lived two miles from me an went to Methodist churches. I did not know them inWaco and had to to meet them in another state. By the way that c regional camp was the first integrated camp in the Methodist Church. It was the summer of 1964 and probably organized in response to MLK's "I have a dream" speech August 28, 1963.
We did all our activities together - bible study, recreation, worship, and eating together. When we left Mt Sequoyah and went down the mountain and headed back to Texas the African American cars were denied the right to eat in the restaurants on the way home.

My textbooks in High School led me to believe that Robert E Lee was a great leader and hero to the south; states rights was the cause of the Civil War (later I learned he was traitor); and the south would rise again and the lost cause had not died.

Does one escape racism in that cultural world? Am I racist-probably but I fight against it.

My family owned a coin operated laundry in South Waco and so Culture made a difference in how I saw the world. I saw that I was a racist and moved to change myself as quickly as I could. It's still a journey but I am learning and my African-American friends are helping me realize blind spots.

I am not virtue signaling although many claim that I am. How is it a virtue to say "I am racist?" That is not a virtue. It is honesty. I cannot change what I do not acknowledge.


What you did there is closely related to the humblebrag
chuckle

The old fool has been doing it for years .

Anything to garner attention and so remind himself he actually exists outside of the nursing home routine .
Honestly, it is not his fault. Liberal clergy in the South are obsessed with racism. I mean there is more gnashing of teeth about America in the 50s than saving souls.
I would like your witness to whether your racial culture. My obsession is not the issue. Racism is the issue.
Obsession to you is for me speaking out about racism in America so we have effective change.
The general response here on these pages is "Just shut up. It is not an issue."
For African Americans is an issue however some believe AA's are "too sensitive."

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Waco1947 said:

This response is what I often hear from white people.
What does it mean to say, "I am not a racist?"
Did you accuse them of being a racist? Just be thankful they responded with "I am not a racist" instead of punching your self-righteous fake preacher ass in the nose.

So you're not a racist because I'm self righteous?
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Wangchung said:

It means sometimes people dislike you because you're a *****, not because they're racist. Sometimes people want borders controlled for common sense safety reasons, not because they're racist. Sometimes people want to keep more of the money they earned rather than raise taxes, not because they're racist. Sometimes people don't like the idea of killing unborn humans as a means of birth control, not because they're racist. Sometimes people see the need for making sure an election is secure and accurate, not because they're racist. Sometimes people see the need for an identification for security reasons, not because they're racist. Sometimes people see the need to obey the police when caught, not because they're racist. Hope this helps.

So you're not a racist because I'm a ***** for bringing it up?
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4th and Inches said:

"I am not racist.." probably said in defense of an accusation. Did you accuse somebody?

Many things are confused with racism and promoted as racism but they are not..

You do realize that all the white shaming going on is in fact racism. The average white feel they are on equal footing with other races, not better.. it is up to the other races to do the same.

Asians were Persecuted and enslaved yet they are now classified as equal to whites in most discussions. Same with Jews and the Irish.

The cultural appropriation thing is sIlly too. Whites should be asked to learn and respect others culture and well as others should learn to integrate into mainstream aka "white" culture.

I need others to stop being offended on my behalf. I need others to stop telling me I am too stupid to figure out how to vote or its too much of a burden for me.

Seperate but equal is going backwards and I refuse to do it.
" You do realize that all the white shaming going on is in fact racism. The average white feel they are on equal footing with other races, not better.. it is up to the other races to do the same."
You beg the question. Who said raising a question is white shaming. That's the story you tell yourself about me.
The insult of "shaming" is in your head not mine. It's your choice how you feel. It's not intent. My intent is to hear a cogent response that uses critical thinking.
I am simply saying, "Racism is bad and racism is real."
Do you disagree or have another perspective.
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Waco1947 said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Waco1947 said:

This response is what I often hear from white people.
What does it mean to say, "I am not a racist?"
Did you accuse them of being a racist? Just be thankful they responded with "I am not a racist" instead of punching your self-righteous fake preacher ass in the nose.

So you're not a racist because I'm self righteous?
You and your party's obsession with race is not healthy.
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CammoTX said:

The real question is can non-white people be racist?

Apparently not according to many progressives in the West.

I hope no one reads a history book on Imperial Japanese Empire and their thoughts on racial superiority…


That's the problem. We are not educated as to our true history as a nation - founded on slavery, a civil war fought-over it, a separate but equal segregated world that I grew up in. That white people feel bad about it or shamed by that history is not problem. Learning about racism and acknowledging it are the keys to changing our "race problem."
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Waco1947 said:

4th and Inches said:

"I am not racist.." probably said in defense of an accusation. Did you accuse somebody?

Many things are confused with racism and promoted as racism but they are not..

You do realize that all the white shaming going on is in fact racism. The average white feel they are on equal footing with other races, not better.. it is up to the other races to do the same.

Asians were Persecuted and enslaved yet they are now classified as equal to whites in most discussions. Same with Jews and the Irish.

The cultural appropriation thing is sIlly too. Whites should be asked to learn and respect others culture and well as others should learn to integrate into mainstream aka "white" culture.

I need others to stop being offended on my behalf. I need others to stop telling me I am too stupid to figure out how to vote or its too much of a burden for me.

Seperate but equal is going backwards and I refuse to do it.
" You do realize that all the white shaming going on is in fact racism. The average white feel they are on equal footing with other races, not better.. it is up to the other races to do the same."
You beg the question. Who said raising a question is white shaming. That's the story you tell yourself about me.
The insult of "shaming" is in your head not mine. It's your choice how you feel. It's not intent. My intent is to hear a cogent response that uses critical thinking.
I am simply saying, "Racism is bad and racism is real."
Do you disagree or have another perspective.

i agree that racism is real and bad.

I am saying not everything labeled as racism is racism. I am saying the volume and effects of racism are often exaggerated and used as a political tool. I am saying these exaggerations have lessened the meaning of racism and desensitized our country to real racism. I am saying that shaming others for their failings (real or projected) is not healthy to move society forward.
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