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Canon
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D. C. Bear said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

I was taught God said this world was good. Could have sworn i read that.
No worries brother, I always stop reading after the first sentence of a book as well.


Where does God tell us to be cynical?


This question has already been answered with scripture. Unless you have a different definition of cynical.


Maybe there is a miscommunication about what cynicism is. Lay out the argument for the Biblical support of "Christian cynicism." I don't think it exists.


Cynicism vis-a-vis politics is directed by the Bible, per the verse listed above. Don't put your faith in princes. Elsewhere in genesis, we learn that God cursed the earth…making cynicism about environmentalism guaranteed.

J.R.
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Just saw where Chris Wallace gave Fox the finger and quit. Reason he quoted was that basically, opinion is fine, but out right lies relative to Jan. 6th was a real problem. Now employed by CNN. I found him fairly straight down the middle.
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Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

I was taught God said this world was good. Could have sworn i read that.
No worries brother, I always stop reading after the first sentence of a book as well.


Where does God tell us to be cynical?


This question has already been answered with scripture. Unless you have a different definition of cynical.


Maybe there is a miscommunication about what cynicism is. Lay out the argument for the Biblical support of "Christian cynicism." I don't think it exists.


Cynicism vis-a-vis politics is directed by the Bible, per the verse listed above. Don't put your faith in princes. Elsewhere in genesis, we learn that God cursed the earth…making cynicism about environmentalism guaranteed.


How do you define cynicism? Or, to put it another way, what are the traits of a cynical person?
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D. C. Bear said:

CSIBear said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

I was taught God said this world was good. Could have sworn i read that.
No worries brother, I always stop reading after the first sentence of a book as well.


Where does God tell us to be cynical?


Genesis, or somewhere in the back.
Your ideas are intriguing to me, and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
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GrowlTowel said:

D. C. Bear said:

CSIBear said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

I was taught God said this world was good. Could have sworn i read that.
No worries brother, I always stop reading after the first sentence of a book as well.


Where does God tell us to be cynical?


Genesis, or somewhere in the back.
I will ask you the same question. What are the traits of a cynical person as you define it?
Canon
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D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

CSIBear said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

I was taught God said this world was good. Could have sworn i read that.
No worries brother, I always stop reading after the first sentence of a book as well.


Where does God tell us to be cynical?


This question has already been answered with scripture. Unless you have a different definition of cynical.


Maybe there is a miscommunication about what cynicism is. Lay out the argument for the Biblical support of "Christian cynicism." I don't think it exists.


Cynicism vis-a-vis politics is directed by the Bible, per the verse listed above. Don't put your faith in princes. Elsewhere in genesis, we learn that God cursed the earth…making cynicism about environmentalism guaranteed.


How do you define cynicism? Or, to put it another way, what are the traits of a cynical person?


Believing or showing the belief that people are motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; skeptical of the motives of others.

"No one is good except God alone" - Jesus

Psalm 14:3 "there is none who does good, not even one."

Psalm 146:3 "Do not trust in princes, In mortal man, in whom there is no salvation."

Jeremiah 17:5 "Thus says the Lord,
"Cursed is the man who trusts in mankind
And makes flesh his strength,
And whose heart turns away from the Lord."

Psalm 118:9 "It is better to take refuge in the Lord
Than to trust in princes."

Isaiah 2:22 "Stop regarding man, whose breath of life is in his nostrils; For why should he be esteemed?"

Isaiah 30:2 "Who proceed down to Egypt
Without consulting Me,
To take refuge in the safety of Pharaoh
And to seek shelter in the shadow of Egypt!"

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D. C. Bear
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Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

CSIBear said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

I was taught God said this world was good. Could have sworn i read that.
No worries brother, I always stop reading after the first sentence of a book as well.


Where does God tell us to be cynical?


This question has already been answered with scripture. Unless you have a different definition of cynical.


Maybe there is a miscommunication about what cynicism is. Lay out the argument for the Biblical support of "Christian cynicism." I don't think it exists.


Cynicism vis-a-vis politics is directed by the Bible, per the verse listed above. Don't put your faith in princes. Elsewhere in genesis, we learn that God cursed the earth…making cynicism about environmentalism guaranteed.


How do you define cynicism? Or, to put it another way, what are the traits of a cynical person?


Believing or showing the belief that people are motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; skeptical of the motives of others.

"No one is good except God alone" - Jesus

Psalm 14:3 "there is none who does good, not even one."

Psalm 146:3 "Do not trust in princes, In mortal man, in whom there is no salvation."

Jeremiah 17:5 "Thus says the Lord,
"Cursed is the man who trusts in mankind
And makes flesh his strength,
And whose heart turns away from the Lord."

Psalm 118:9 "It is better to take refuge in the Lord
Than to trust in princes."

Isaiah 2:22 "Stop regarding man, whose breath of life is in his nostrils; For why should he be esteemed?"

Isaiah 30:2 "Who proceed down to Egypt
Without consulting Me,
To take refuge in the safety of Pharaoh
And to seek shelter in the shadow of Egypt!"


Are you married?
Canon
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D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

CSIBear said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

I was taught God said this world was good. Could have sworn i read that.
No worries brother, I always stop reading after the first sentence of a book as well.


Where does God tell us to be cynical?


This question has already been answered with scripture. Unless you have a different definition of cynical.


Maybe there is a miscommunication about what cynicism is. Lay out the argument for the Biblical support of "Christian cynicism." I don't think it exists.


Cynicism vis-a-vis politics is directed by the Bible, per the verse listed above. Don't put your faith in princes. Elsewhere in genesis, we learn that God cursed the earth…making cynicism about environmentalism guaranteed.


How do you define cynicism? Or, to put it another way, what are the traits of a cynical person?


Believing or showing the belief that people are motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; skeptical of the motives of others.

"No one is good except God alone" - Jesus

Psalm 14:3 "there is none who does good, not even one."

Psalm 146:3 "Do not trust in princes, In mortal man, in whom there is no salvation."

Jeremiah 17:5 "Thus says the Lord,
"Cursed is the man who trusts in mankind
And makes flesh his strength,
And whose heart turns away from the Lord."

Psalm 118:9 "It is better to take refuge in the Lord
Than to trust in princes."

Isaiah 2:22 "Stop regarding man, whose breath of life is in his nostrils; For why should he be esteemed?"

Isaiah 30:2 "Who proceed down to Egypt
Without consulting Me,
To take refuge in the safety of Pharaoh
And to seek shelter in the shadow of Egypt!"


Are you married?


Happily. Have you seen divorce statistics?
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Cobretti said:


This could be the plot for "Brewster's Millions Part 2" (Guy has to to lose $30M in 30 days)

Starring - Brain Stelter

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Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

CSIBear said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

I was taught God said this world was good. Could have sworn i read that.
No worries brother, I always stop reading after the first sentence of a book as well.


Where does God tell us to be cynical?


This question has already been answered with scripture. Unless you have a different definition of cynical.


Maybe there is a miscommunication about what cynicism is. Lay out the argument for the Biblical support of "Christian cynicism." I don't think it exists.


Cynicism vis-a-vis politics is directed by the Bible, per the verse listed above. Don't put your faith in princes. Elsewhere in genesis, we learn that God cursed the earth…making cynicism about environmentalism guaranteed.


How do you define cynicism? Or, to put it another way, what are the traits of a cynical person?


Believing or showing the belief that people are motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; skeptical of the motives of others.

"No one is good except God alone" - Jesus

Psalm 14:3 "there is none who does good, not even one."

Psalm 146:3 "Do not trust in princes, In mortal man, in whom there is no salvation."

Jeremiah 17:5 "Thus says the Lord,
"Cursed is the man who trusts in mankind
And makes flesh his strength,
And whose heart turns away from the Lord."

Psalm 118:9 "It is better to take refuge in the Lord
Than to trust in princes."

Isaiah 2:22 "Stop regarding man, whose breath of life is in his nostrils; For why should he be esteemed?"

Isaiah 30:2 "Who proceed down to Egypt
Without consulting Me,
To take refuge in the safety of Pharaoh
And to seek shelter in the shadow of Egypt!"


Are you married?


Happily. Have you seen divorce statistics?


Yes. Zero percent for me, and I hope for you as well.

Do you believe and act on the assumption that your wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and are you skeptical of her motives?
Canon
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D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

CSIBear said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

I was taught God said this world was good. Could have sworn i read that.
No worries brother, I always stop reading after the first sentence of a book as well.


Where does God tell us to be cynical?


This question has already been answered with scripture. Unless you have a different definition of cynical.


Maybe there is a miscommunication about what cynicism is. Lay out the argument for the Biblical support of "Christian cynicism." I don't think it exists.


Cynicism vis-a-vis politics is directed by the Bible, per the verse listed above. Don't put your faith in princes. Elsewhere in genesis, we learn that God cursed the earth…making cynicism about environmentalism guaranteed.


How do you define cynicism? Or, to put it another way, what are the traits of a cynical person?


Believing or showing the belief that people are motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; skeptical of the motives of others.

"No one is good except God alone" - Jesus

Psalm 14:3 "there is none who does good, not even one."

Psalm 146:3 "Do not trust in princes, In mortal man, in whom there is no salvation."

Jeremiah 17:5 "Thus says the Lord,
"Cursed is the man who trusts in mankind
And makes flesh his strength,
And whose heart turns away from the Lord."

Psalm 118:9 "It is better to take refuge in the Lord
Than to trust in princes."

Isaiah 2:22 "Stop regarding man, whose breath of life is in his nostrils; For why should he be esteemed?"

Isaiah 30:2 "Who proceed down to Egypt
Without consulting Me,
To take refuge in the safety of Pharaoh
And to seek shelter in the shadow of Egypt!"


Are you married?


Happily. Have you seen divorce statistics?


Yes. Zero percent for me, and I hope for you as well.

Do you believe and act on the assumption that your wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and are you skeptical of her motives?


Your motives, your wife's, my wife's, mine - all of us are selfish and suspect. Even altruism and love have a selfish component. It's the genesis of both acrimonious divorces and vicious nepotism.
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D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

CSIBear said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

I was taught God said this world was good. Could have sworn i read that.
No worries brother, I always stop reading after the first sentence of a book as well.


Where does God tell us to be cynical?


This question has already been answered with scripture. Unless you have a different definition of cynical.


Maybe there is a miscommunication about what cynicism is. Lay out the argument for the Biblical support of "Christian cynicism." I don't think it exists.


Cynicism vis-a-vis politics is directed by the Bible, per the verse listed above. Don't put your faith in princes. Elsewhere in genesis, we learn that God cursed the earth…making cynicism about environmentalism guaranteed.


How do you define cynicism? Or, to put it another way, what are the traits of a cynical person?


Believing or showing the belief that people are motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; skeptical of the motives of others.

"No one is good except God alone" - Jesus

Psalm 14:3 "there is none who does good, not even one."

Psalm 146:3 "Do not trust in princes, In mortal man, in whom there is no salvation."

Jeremiah 17:5 "Thus says the Lord,
"Cursed is the man who trusts in mankind
And makes flesh his strength,
And whose heart turns away from the Lord."

Psalm 118:9 "It is better to take refuge in the Lord
Than to trust in princes."

Isaiah 2:22 "Stop regarding man, whose breath of life is in his nostrils; For why should he be esteemed?"

Isaiah 30:2 "Who proceed down to Egypt
Without consulting Me,
To take refuge in the safety of Pharaoh
And to seek shelter in the shadow of Egypt!"


Are you married?


Happily. Have you seen divorce statistics?
Do you believe and act on the assumption that your wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and are you skeptical of her motives?
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D. C. Bear
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Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

CSIBear said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

I was taught God said this world was good. Could have sworn i read that.
No worries brother, I always stop reading after the first sentence of a book as well.


Where does God tell us to be cynical?


This question has already been answered with scripture. Unless you have a different definition of cynical.


Maybe there is a miscommunication about what cynicism is. Lay out the argument for the Biblical support of "Christian cynicism." I don't think it exists.


Cynicism vis-a-vis politics is directed by the Bible, per the verse listed above. Don't put your faith in princes. Elsewhere in genesis, we learn that God cursed the earth…making cynicism about environmentalism guaranteed.


How do you define cynicism? Or, to put it another way, what are the traits of a cynical person?


Believing or showing the belief that people are motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; skeptical of the motives of others.

"No one is good except God alone" - Jesus

Psalm 14:3 "there is none who does good, not even one."

Psalm 146:3 "Do not trust in princes, In mortal man, in whom there is no salvation."

Jeremiah 17:5 "Thus says the Lord,
"Cursed is the man who trusts in mankind
And makes flesh his strength,
And whose heart turns away from the Lord."

Psalm 118:9 "It is better to take refuge in the Lord
Than to trust in princes."

Isaiah 2:22 "Stop regarding man, whose breath of life is in his nostrils; For why should he be esteemed?"

Isaiah 30:2 "Who proceed down to Egypt
Without consulting Me,
To take refuge in the safety of Pharaoh
And to seek shelter in the shadow of Egypt!"


Are you married?


Happily. Have you seen divorce statistics?


Yes. Zero percent for me, and I hope for you as well.

Do you believe and act on the assumption that your wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and are you skeptical of her motives?


Your motives, your wife's, my wife's, mine - all of us are selfish and suspect. Even altruism and love have a selfish component. It's the genesis of both acrimonious divorces and vicious nepotism.


Altruism, by definition, is selfless, but you didn't quite answer my question: "Do you believe and act on the assumption that your wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and are you skeptical of her motives?"
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D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

CSIBear said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

I was taught God said this world was good. Could have sworn i read that.
No worries brother, I always stop reading after the first sentence of a book as well.


Where does God tell us to be cynical?


This question has already been answered with scripture. Unless you have a different definition of cynical.


Maybe there is a miscommunication about what cynicism is. Lay out the argument for the Biblical support of "Christian cynicism." I don't think it exists.


Cynicism vis-a-vis politics is directed by the Bible, per the verse listed above. Don't put your faith in princes. Elsewhere in genesis, we learn that God cursed the earth…making cynicism about environmentalism guaranteed.


How do you define cynicism? Or, to put it another way, what are the traits of a cynical person?


Believing or showing the belief that people are motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; skeptical of the motives of others.

"No one is good except God alone" - Jesus

Psalm 14:3 "there is none who does good, not even one."

Psalm 146:3 "Do not trust in princes, In mortal man, in whom there is no salvation."

Jeremiah 17:5 "Thus says the Lord,
"Cursed is the man who trusts in mankind
And makes flesh his strength,
And whose heart turns away from the Lord."

Psalm 118:9 "It is better to take refuge in the Lord
Than to trust in princes."

Isaiah 2:22 "Stop regarding man, whose breath of life is in his nostrils; For why should he be esteemed?"

Isaiah 30:2 "Who proceed down to Egypt
Without consulting Me,
To take refuge in the safety of Pharaoh
And to seek shelter in the shadow of Egypt!"


Are you married?


Happily. Have you seen divorce statistics?


Yes. Zero percent for me, and I hope for you as well.

Do you believe and act on the assumption that your wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and are you skeptical of her motives?


Your motives, your wife's, my wife's, mine - all of us are selfish and suspect. Even altruism and love have a selfish component. It's the genesis of both acrimonious divorces and vicious nepotism.


"Do you believe and act on the assumption that your wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns;?"
Do you DC ?
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D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

CSIBear said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

I was taught God said this world was good. Could have sworn i read that.
No worries brother, I always stop reading after the first sentence of a book as well.


Where does God tell us to be cynical?


This question has already been answered with scripture. Unless you have a different definition of cynical.


Maybe there is a miscommunication about what cynicism is. Lay out the argument for the Biblical support of "Christian cynicism." I don't think it exists.


Cynicism vis-a-vis politics is directed by the Bible, per the verse listed above. Don't put your faith in princes. Elsewhere in genesis, we learn that God cursed the earth…making cynicism about environmentalism guaranteed.


How do you define cynicism? Or, to put it another way, what are the traits of a cynical person?


Believing or showing the belief that people are motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; skeptical of the motives of others.

"No one is good except God alone" - Jesus

Psalm 14:3 "there is none who does good, not even one."

Psalm 146:3 "Do not trust in princes, In mortal man, in whom there is no salvation."

Jeremiah 17:5 "Thus says the Lord,
"Cursed is the man who trusts in mankind
And makes flesh his strength,
And whose heart turns away from the Lord."

Psalm 118:9 "It is better to take refuge in the Lord
Than to trust in princes."

Isaiah 2:22 "Stop regarding man, whose breath of life is in his nostrils; For why should he be esteemed?"

Isaiah 30:2 "Who proceed down to Egypt
Without consulting Me,
To take refuge in the safety of Pharaoh
And to seek shelter in the shadow of Egypt!"


Are you married?


Happily. Have you seen divorce statistics?


Yes. Zero percent for me, and I hope for you as well.

Do you believe and act on the assumption that your wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and are you skeptical of her motives?


Your motives, your wife's, my wife's, mine - all of us are selfish and suspect. Even altruism and love have a selfish component. It's the genesis of both acrimonious divorces and vicious nepotism.


Altruism, by definition, is selfless, but you didn't quite answer my question: "Do you believe and act on the assumption that your wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and are you skeptical of her motives?"
I answered your question. Do you believe altruism has no major component of selfishness? Be honest now
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Since the first time my wife saw me without a shirt , I knew that she was not acting on base or selfish desires. Every time I stand in front of a mirror, I'm reminded of that.

We are all confused individuals. We are a mixture of good and bad, Sometimes selfish and sometimes selfless. Are we 10:1 or 1:10 or somewhere in between or, is it fluid?
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Canada2017 said:

D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

CSIBear said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

I was taught God said this world was good. Could have sworn i read that.
No worries brother, I always stop reading after the first sentence of a book as well.


Where does God tell us to be cynical?


This question has already been answered with scripture. Unless you have a different definition of cynical.


Maybe there is a miscommunication about what cynicism is. Lay out the argument for the Biblical support of "Christian cynicism." I don't think it exists.


Cynicism vis-a-vis politics is directed by the Bible, per the verse listed above. Don't put your faith in princes. Elsewhere in genesis, we learn that God cursed the earth…making cynicism about environmentalism guaranteed.


How do you define cynicism? Or, to put it another way, what are the traits of a cynical person?


Believing or showing the belief that people are motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; skeptical of the motives of others.

"No one is good except God alone" - Jesus

Psalm 14:3 "there is none who does good, not even one."

Psalm 146:3 "Do not trust in princes, In mortal man, in whom there is no salvation."

Jeremiah 17:5 "Thus says the Lord,
"Cursed is the man who trusts in mankind
And makes flesh his strength,
And whose heart turns away from the Lord."

Psalm 118:9 "It is better to take refuge in the Lord
Than to trust in princes."

Isaiah 2:22 "Stop regarding man, whose breath of life is in his nostrils; For why should he be esteemed?"

Isaiah 30:2 "Who proceed down to Egypt
Without consulting Me,
To take refuge in the safety of Pharaoh
And to seek shelter in the shadow of Egypt!"


Are you married?


Happily. Have you seen divorce statistics?


Yes. Zero percent for me, and I hope for you as well.

Do you believe and act on the assumption that your wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and are you skeptical of her motives?


Your motives, your wife's, my wife's, mine - all of us are selfish and suspect. Even altruism and love have a selfish component. It's the genesis of both acrimonious divorces and vicious nepotism.


"Do you believe and act on the assumption that your wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns;?"
Do you DC ?


No.
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Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

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Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

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CSIBear said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

I was taught God said this world was good. Could have sworn i read that.
No worries brother, I always stop reading after the first sentence of a book as well.


Where does God tell us to be cynical?


This question has already been answered with scripture. Unless you have a different definition of cynical.


Maybe there is a miscommunication about what cynicism is. Lay out the argument for the Biblical support of "Christian cynicism." I don't think it exists.


Cynicism vis-a-vis politics is directed by the Bible, per the verse listed above. Don't put your faith in princes. Elsewhere in genesis, we learn that God cursed the earth…making cynicism about environmentalism guaranteed.


How do you define cynicism? Or, to put it another way, what are the traits of a cynical person?


Believing or showing the belief that people are motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; skeptical of the motives of others.

"No one is good except God alone" - Jesus

Psalm 14:3 "there is none who does good, not even one."

Psalm 146:3 "Do not trust in princes, In mortal man, in whom there is no salvation."

Jeremiah 17:5 "Thus says the Lord,
"Cursed is the man who trusts in mankind
And makes flesh his strength,
And whose heart turns away from the Lord."

Psalm 118:9 "It is better to take refuge in the Lord
Than to trust in princes."

Isaiah 2:22 "Stop regarding man, whose breath of life is in his nostrils; For why should he be esteemed?"

Isaiah 30:2 "Who proceed down to Egypt
Without consulting Me,
To take refuge in the safety of Pharaoh
And to seek shelter in the shadow of Egypt!"


Are you married?


Happily. Have you seen divorce statistics?


Yes. Zero percent for me, and I hope for you as well.

Do you believe and act on the assumption that your wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and are you skeptical of her motives?


Your motives, your wife's, my wife's, mine - all of us are selfish and suspect. Even altruism and love have a selfish component. It's the genesis of both acrimonious divorces and vicious nepotism.


Altruism, by definition, is selfless, but you didn't quite answer my question: "Do you believe and act on the assumption that your wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and are you skeptical of her motives?"
I answered your question. Do you believe altruism has no major component of selfishness? Be honest now


Altruism is, by definition, selfless, whether I believe it or not.

There is plenty of debate over whether altruism is even possible, but I think we can safely say that altruism, to the degree it is a real thing, does not have a "major component of selfishness."
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D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

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Canon said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

I was taught God said this world was good. Could have sworn i read that.
No worries brother, I always stop reading after the first sentence of a book as well.


Where does God tell us to be cynical?


This question has already been answered with scripture. Unless you have a different definition of cynical.


Maybe there is a miscommunication about what cynicism is. Lay out the argument for the Biblical support of "Christian cynicism." I don't think it exists.


Cynicism vis-a-vis politics is directed by the Bible, per the verse listed above. Don't put your faith in princes. Elsewhere in genesis, we learn that God cursed the earth…making cynicism about environmentalism guaranteed.


How do you define cynicism? Or, to put it another way, what are the traits of a cynical person?


Believing or showing the belief that people are motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; skeptical of the motives of others.

"No one is good except God alone" - Jesus

Psalm 14:3 "there is none who does good, not even one."

Psalm 146:3 "Do not trust in princes, In mortal man, in whom there is no salvation."

Jeremiah 17:5 "Thus says the Lord,
"Cursed is the man who trusts in mankind
And makes flesh his strength,
And whose heart turns away from the Lord."

Psalm 118:9 "It is better to take refuge in the Lord
Than to trust in princes."

Isaiah 2:22 "Stop regarding man, whose breath of life is in his nostrils; For why should he be esteemed?"

Isaiah 30:2 "Who proceed down to Egypt
Without consulting Me,
To take refuge in the safety of Pharaoh
And to seek shelter in the shadow of Egypt!"


Are you married?


Happily. Have you seen divorce statistics?


Yes. Zero percent for me, and I hope for you as well.

Do you believe and act on the assumption that your wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and are you skeptical of her motives?


Your motives, your wife's, my wife's, mine - all of us are selfish and suspect. Even altruism and love have a selfish component. It's the genesis of both acrimonious divorces and vicious nepotism.


Altruism, by definition, is selfless, but you didn't quite answer my question: "Do you believe and act on the assumption that your wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and are you skeptical of her motives?"
I answered your question. Do you believe altruism has no major component of selfishness? Be honest now


Altruism is, by definition, selfless, whether I believe it or not.

There is plenty of debate over whether altruism is even possible, but I think we can safely say that altruism, to the degree it is a real thing, does not have a "major component of selfishness."
The general definition certainly suggests it is, but that's not what I asked you. You are ignoring the vicious side of the familial relationship to which we like to assign altruism as a given. Nepotism that has led to tribal wars in many parts of the world. Love that incorporates possessiveness that makes the actions done supposedly on behalf of the 'loved on' being largely motivated by the fact that the person acting sees that person as simply an extension of themselves and thus acts selfishly and horribly to others. Is that altruism? We could go on, of course, but you probably get the idea, even if you won't admit it.

Finally, do you disagree with Jesus Christ when He said, "No one is good except God alone"?
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Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

CSIBear said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

I was taught God said this world was good. Could have sworn i read that.
No worries brother, I always stop reading after the first sentence of a book as well.


Where does God tell us to be cynical?


This question has already been answered with scripture. Unless you have a different definition of cynical.


Maybe there is a miscommunication about what cynicism is. Lay out the argument for the Biblical support of "Christian cynicism." I don't think it exists.


Cynicism vis-a-vis politics is directed by the Bible, per the verse listed above. Don't put your faith in princes. Elsewhere in genesis, we learn that God cursed the earth…making cynicism about environmentalism guaranteed.


How do you define cynicism? Or, to put it another way, what are the traits of a cynical person?


Believing or showing the belief that people are motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; skeptical of the motives of others.

"No one is good except God alone" - Jesus

Psalm 14:3 "there is none who does good, not even one."

Psalm 146:3 "Do not trust in princes, In mortal man, in whom there is no salvation."

Jeremiah 17:5 "Thus says the Lord,
"Cursed is the man who trusts in mankind
And makes flesh his strength,
And whose heart turns away from the Lord."

Psalm 118:9 "It is better to take refuge in the Lord
Than to trust in princes."

Isaiah 2:22 "Stop regarding man, whose breath of life is in his nostrils; For why should he be esteemed?"

Isaiah 30:2 "Who proceed down to Egypt
Without consulting Me,
To take refuge in the safety of Pharaoh
And to seek shelter in the shadow of Egypt!"


Are you married?


Happily. Have you seen divorce statistics?


Yes. Zero percent for me, and I hope for you as well.

Do you believe and act on the assumption that your wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and are you skeptical of her motives?


Your motives, your wife's, my wife's, mine - all of us are selfish and suspect. Even altruism and love have a selfish component. It's the genesis of both acrimonious divorces and vicious nepotism.


Altruism, by definition, is selfless, but you didn't quite answer my question: "Do you believe and act on the assumption that your wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and are you skeptical of her motives?"
I answered your question. Do you believe altruism has no major component of selfishness? Be honest now


You didn't really answer my question, you answered another question. This is the question I asked: "Do you believe and act on the assumption that your wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns?"
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Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

CSIBear said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

I was taught God said this world was good. Could have sworn i read that.
No worries brother, I always stop reading after the first sentence of a book as well.


Where does God tell us to be cynical?


This question has already been answered with scripture. Unless you have a different definition of cynical.


Maybe there is a miscommunication about what cynicism is. Lay out the argument for the Biblical support of "Christian cynicism." I don't think it exists.


Cynicism vis-a-vis politics is directed by the Bible, per the verse listed above. Don't put your faith in princes. Elsewhere in genesis, we learn that God cursed the earth…making cynicism about environmentalism guaranteed.


How do you define cynicism? Or, to put it another way, what are the traits of a cynical person?


Believing or showing the belief that people are motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; skeptical of the motives of others.

"No one is good except God alone" - Jesus

Psalm 14:3 "there is none who does good, not even one."

Psalm 146:3 "Do not trust in princes, In mortal man, in whom there is no salvation."

Jeremiah 17:5 "Thus says the Lord,
"Cursed is the man who trusts in mankind
And makes flesh his strength,
And whose heart turns away from the Lord."

Psalm 118:9 "It is better to take refuge in the Lord
Than to trust in princes."

Isaiah 2:22 "Stop regarding man, whose breath of life is in his nostrils; For why should he be esteemed?"

Isaiah 30:2 "Who proceed down to Egypt
Without consulting Me,
To take refuge in the safety of Pharaoh
And to seek shelter in the shadow of Egypt!"


Are you married?


Happily. Have you seen divorce statistics?


Yes. Zero percent for me, and I hope for you as well.

Do you believe and act on the assumption that your wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and are you skeptical of her motives?


Your motives, your wife's, my wife's, mine - all of us are selfish and suspect. Even altruism and love have a selfish component. It's the genesis of both acrimonious divorces and vicious nepotism.


Altruism, by definition, is selfless, but you didn't quite answer my question: "Do you believe and act on the assumption that your wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and are you skeptical of her motives?"
I answered your question. Do you believe altruism has no major component of selfishness? Be honest now


Altruism is, by definition, selfless, whether I believe it or not.

There is plenty of debate over whether altruism is even possible, but I think we can safely say that altruism, to the degree it is a real thing, does not have a "major component of selfishness."
The general definition certainly suggests it is, but that's not what I asked you. You are ignoring the vicious side of the familial relationship to which we like to assign altruism as a given. Nepotism that has led to tribal wars in many parts of the world. Love that incorporates possessiveness that makes the actions done supposedly on behalf of the 'loved on' being largely motivated by the fact that the person acting sees that person as simply an extension of themselves and thus acts selfishly and horribly to others. Is that altruism? We could go on, of course, but you probably get the idea, even if you won't admit it.

Finally, do you disagree with Jesus Christ when He said, "No one is good except God alone"?


I only asked you about a family relationship to see if you actually put your money where your mouth is, so to speak. Altruism can be directed at total strangers.

I do not disagree with Jesus Christ when he said that.

Do you disagree with Jesus Christ when he said "love your enemies?"
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D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

CSIBear said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

I was taught God said this world was good. Could have sworn i read that.
No worries brother, I always stop reading after the first sentence of a book as well.


Where does God tell us to be cynical?


This question has already been answered with scripture. Unless you have a different definition of cynical.


Maybe there is a miscommunication about what cynicism is. Lay out the argument for the Biblical support of "Christian cynicism." I don't think it exists.


Cynicism vis-a-vis politics is directed by the Bible, per the verse listed above. Don't put your faith in princes. Elsewhere in genesis, we learn that God cursed the earth…making cynicism about environmentalism guaranteed.


How do you define cynicism? Or, to put it another way, what are the traits of a cynical person?


Believing or showing the belief that people are motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; skeptical of the motives of others.

"No one is good except God alone" - Jesus

Psalm 14:3 "there is none who does good, not even one."

Psalm 146:3 "Do not trust in princes, In mortal man, in whom there is no salvation."

Jeremiah 17:5 "Thus says the Lord,
"Cursed is the man who trusts in mankind
And makes flesh his strength,
And whose heart turns away from the Lord."

Psalm 118:9 "It is better to take refuge in the Lord
Than to trust in princes."

Isaiah 2:22 "Stop regarding man, whose breath of life is in his nostrils; For why should he be esteemed?"

Isaiah 30:2 "Who proceed down to Egypt
Without consulting Me,
To take refuge in the safety of Pharaoh
And to seek shelter in the shadow of Egypt!"


Are you married?


Happily. Have you seen divorce statistics?


Yes. Zero percent for me, and I hope for you as well.

Do you believe and act on the assumption that your wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and are you skeptical of her motives?


Your motives, your wife's, my wife's, mine - all of us are selfish and suspect. Even altruism and love have a selfish component. It's the genesis of both acrimonious divorces and vicious nepotism.


Altruism, by definition, is selfless, but you didn't quite answer my question: "Do you believe and act on the assumption that your wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and are you skeptical of her motives?"
I answered your question. Do you believe altruism has no major component of selfishness? Be honest now


Altruism is, by definition, selfless, whether I believe it or not.

There is plenty of debate over whether altruism is even possible, but I think we can safely say that altruism, to the degree it is a real thing, does not have a "major component of selfishness."
No Matter How Cynical I Get, It's Never Enough to Keep Up - Lily Tomlin
Canon
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D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

CSIBear said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

I was taught God said this world was good. Could have sworn i read that.
No worries brother, I always stop reading after the first sentence of a book as well.


Where does God tell us to be cynical?


This question has already been answered with scripture. Unless you have a different definition of cynical.


Maybe there is a miscommunication about what cynicism is. Lay out the argument for the Biblical support of "Christian cynicism." I don't think it exists.


Cynicism vis-a-vis politics is directed by the Bible, per the verse listed above. Don't put your faith in princes. Elsewhere in genesis, we learn that God cursed the earth…making cynicism about environmentalism guaranteed.


How do you define cynicism? Or, to put it another way, what are the traits of a cynical person?


Believing or showing the belief that people are motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; skeptical of the motives of others.

"No one is good except God alone" - Jesus

Psalm 14:3 "there is none who does good, not even one."

Psalm 146:3 "Do not trust in princes, In mortal man, in whom there is no salvation."

Jeremiah 17:5 "Thus says the Lord,
"Cursed is the man who trusts in mankind
And makes flesh his strength,
And whose heart turns away from the Lord."

Psalm 118:9 "It is better to take refuge in the Lord
Than to trust in princes."

Isaiah 2:22 "Stop regarding man, whose breath of life is in his nostrils; For why should he be esteemed?"

Isaiah 30:2 "Who proceed down to Egypt
Without consulting Me,
To take refuge in the safety of Pharaoh
And to seek shelter in the shadow of Egypt!"


Are you married?


Happily. Have you seen divorce statistics?


Yes. Zero percent for me, and I hope for you as well.

Do you believe and act on the assumption that your wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and are you skeptical of her motives?


Your motives, your wife's, my wife's, mine - all of us are selfish and suspect. Even altruism and love have a selfish component. It's the genesis of both acrimonious divorces and vicious nepotism.


Altruism, by definition, is selfless, but you didn't quite answer my question: "Do you believe and act on the assumption that your wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and are you skeptical of her motives?"
I answered your question. Do you believe altruism has no major component of selfishness? Be honest now


Altruism is, by definition, selfless, whether I believe it or not.

There is plenty of debate over whether altruism is even possible, but I think we can safely say that altruism, to the degree it is a real thing, does not have a "major component of selfishness."
The general definition certainly suggests it is, but that's not what I asked you. You are ignoring the vicious side of the familial relationship to which we like to assign altruism as a given. Nepotism that has led to tribal wars in many parts of the world. Love that incorporates possessiveness that makes the actions done supposedly on behalf of the 'loved on' being largely motivated by the fact that the person acting sees that person as simply an extension of themselves and thus acts selfishly and horribly to others. Is that altruism? We could go on, of course, but you probably get the idea, even if you won't admit it.

Finally, do you disagree with Jesus Christ when He said, "No one is good except God alone"?


I only asked you about a family relationship to see if you actually put your money where your mouth is, so to speak. Altruism can be directed at total strangers.

I do not disagree with Jesus Christ when he said that.

Do you disagree with Jesus Christ when he said "love your enemies?"
My answer to you is simply to quote Jesus; "No one is good except God alone". That's what I believe.

If you don't disagree with Jesus, then you can't really disagree with me. No one is good. Cynicism is therefore justified and should be the baseline for humans. It's the foolish notion that humans are fundamentally good that leads us into attempts at creating earthly utopias that lead to nothing more than dystopian disasters.

We are to love our enemies and do good to those who persecute us. That's a very personal command, as I see it and it's tied to treating others as we want to be treated, because everyone has a fundamental love for themselves.....because we are fundamentally selfish. The command to love here is a command to act in a way (do go to those who persecute you) that appears loving toward our enemies.

How do you personally quantify or identify when you are loving your enemies?
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Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

CSIBear said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

I was taught God said this world was good. Could have sworn i read that.
No worries brother, I always stop reading after the first sentence of a book as well.


Where does God tell us to be cynical?


This question has already been answered with scripture. Unless you have a different definition of cynical.


Maybe there is a miscommunication about what cynicism is. Lay out the argument for the Biblical support of "Christian cynicism." I don't think it exists.


Cynicism vis-a-vis politics is directed by the Bible, per the verse listed above. Don't put your faith in princes. Elsewhere in genesis, we learn that God cursed the earth…making cynicism about environmentalism guaranteed.


How do you define cynicism? Or, to put it another way, what are the traits of a cynical person?


Believing or showing the belief that people are motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; skeptical of the motives of others.

"No one is good except God alone" - Jesus

Psalm 14:3 "there is none who does good, not even one."

Psalm 146:3 "Do not trust in princes, In mortal man, in whom there is no salvation."

Jeremiah 17:5 "Thus says the Lord,
"Cursed is the man who trusts in mankind
And makes flesh his strength,
And whose heart turns away from the Lord."

Psalm 118:9 "It is better to take refuge in the Lord
Than to trust in princes."

Isaiah 2:22 "Stop regarding man, whose breath of life is in his nostrils; For why should he be esteemed?"

Isaiah 30:2 "Who proceed down to Egypt
Without consulting Me,
To take refuge in the safety of Pharaoh
And to seek shelter in the shadow of Egypt!"


Are you married?


Happily. Have you seen divorce statistics?


Yes. Zero percent for me, and I hope for you as well.

Do you believe and act on the assumption that your wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and are you skeptical of her motives?


Your motives, your wife's, my wife's, mine - all of us are selfish and suspect. Even altruism and love have a selfish component. It's the genesis of both acrimonious divorces and vicious nepotism.


Altruism, by definition, is selfless, but you didn't quite answer my question: "Do you believe and act on the assumption that your wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and are you skeptical of her motives?"
I answered your question. Do you believe altruism has no major component of selfishness? Be honest now


Altruism is, by definition, selfless, whether I believe it or not.

There is plenty of debate over whether altruism is even possible, but I think we can safely say that altruism, to the degree it is a real thing, does not have a "major component of selfishness."
The general definition certainly suggests it is, but that's not what I asked you. You are ignoring the vicious side of the familial relationship to which we like to assign altruism as a given. Nepotism that has led to tribal wars in many parts of the world. Love that incorporates possessiveness that makes the actions done supposedly on behalf of the 'loved on' being largely motivated by the fact that the person acting sees that person as simply an extension of themselves and thus acts selfishly and horribly to others. Is that altruism? We could go on, of course, but you probably get the idea, even if you won't admit it.

Finally, do you disagree with Jesus Christ when He said, "No one is good except God alone"?


I only asked you about a family relationship to see if you actually put your money where your mouth is, so to speak. Altruism can be directed at total strangers.

I do not disagree with Jesus Christ when he said that.

Do you disagree with Jesus Christ when he said "love your enemies?"
My answer to you is simply to quote Jesus; "No one is good except God alone". That's what I believe.

If you don't disagree with Jesus, then you can't really disagree with me. No one is good. Cynicism is therefore justified and should be the baseline for humans. It's the foolish notion that humans are fundamentally good that leads us into attempts at creating earthly utopias that lead to nothing more than dystopian disasters.

We are to love our enemies and do good to those who persecute us. That's a very personal command, as I see it and it's tied to treating others as we want to be treated, because everyone has a fundamental love for themselves.....because we are fundamentally selfish. The command to love here is a command to act in a way (do go to those who persecute you) that appears loving toward our enemies.

How do you personally quantify or identify when you are loving your enemies?


You still have not answered the question.
Do you believe and act on the assumption that your wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and are you skeptical of her motives?"

Possible answers include:
1. I act on the assumption that my wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and I am skeptical of her motives.
Or
2. I do not act on the assumption that my wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and I am not skeptical of her motives.

You could throw in a percentage if you like, but quoting Jesus, and out of context at that, is not an answer to the question.

"If you don't disagree with Jesus, then you can't really disagree with me."
I am going to have to put that on a bumper sticker.
Canon
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D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

CSIBear said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

I was taught God said this world was good. Could have sworn i read that.
No worries brother, I always stop reading after the first sentence of a book as well.


Where does God tell us to be cynical?


This question has already been answered with scripture. Unless you have a different definition of cynical.


Maybe there is a miscommunication about what cynicism is. Lay out the argument for the Biblical support of "Christian cynicism." I don't think it exists.


Cynicism vis-a-vis politics is directed by the Bible, per the verse listed above. Don't put your faith in princes. Elsewhere in genesis, we learn that God cursed the earth…making cynicism about environmentalism guaranteed.


How do you define cynicism? Or, to put it another way, what are the traits of a cynical person?


Believing or showing the belief that people are motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; skeptical of the motives of others.

"No one is good except God alone" - Jesus

Psalm 14:3 "there is none who does good, not even one."

Psalm 146:3 "Do not trust in princes, In mortal man, in whom there is no salvation."

Jeremiah 17:5 "Thus says the Lord,
"Cursed is the man who trusts in mankind
And makes flesh his strength,
And whose heart turns away from the Lord."

Psalm 118:9 "It is better to take refuge in the Lord
Than to trust in princes."

Isaiah 2:22 "Stop regarding man, whose breath of life is in his nostrils; For why should he be esteemed?"

Isaiah 30:2 "Who proceed down to Egypt
Without consulting Me,
To take refuge in the safety of Pharaoh
And to seek shelter in the shadow of Egypt!"


Are you married?


Happily. Have you seen divorce statistics?


Yes. Zero percent for me, and I hope for you as well.

Do you believe and act on the assumption that your wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and are you skeptical of her motives?


Your motives, your wife's, my wife's, mine - all of us are selfish and suspect. Even altruism and love have a selfish component. It's the genesis of both acrimonious divorces and vicious nepotism.


Altruism, by definition, is selfless, but you didn't quite answer my question: "Do you believe and act on the assumption that your wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and are you skeptical of her motives?"
I answered your question. Do you believe altruism has no major component of selfishness? Be honest now


Altruism is, by definition, selfless, whether I believe it or not.

There is plenty of debate over whether altruism is even possible, but I think we can safely say that altruism, to the degree it is a real thing, does not have a "major component of selfishness."
The general definition certainly suggests it is, but that's not what I asked you. You are ignoring the vicious side of the familial relationship to which we like to assign altruism as a given. Nepotism that has led to tribal wars in many parts of the world. Love that incorporates possessiveness that makes the actions done supposedly on behalf of the 'loved on' being largely motivated by the fact that the person acting sees that person as simply an extension of themselves and thus acts selfishly and horribly to others. Is that altruism? We could go on, of course, but you probably get the idea, even if you won't admit it.

Finally, do you disagree with Jesus Christ when He said, "No one is good except God alone"?


I only asked you about a family relationship to see if you actually put your money where your mouth is, so to speak. Altruism can be directed at total strangers.

I do not disagree with Jesus Christ when he said that.

Do you disagree with Jesus Christ when he said "love your enemies?"
My answer to you is simply to quote Jesus; "No one is good except God alone". That's what I believe.

If you don't disagree with Jesus, then you can't really disagree with me. No one is good. Cynicism is therefore justified and should be the baseline for humans. It's the foolish notion that humans are fundamentally good that leads us into attempts at creating earthly utopias that lead to nothing more than dystopian disasters.

We are to love our enemies and do good to those who persecute us. That's a very personal command, as I see it and it's tied to treating others as we want to be treated, because everyone has a fundamental love for themselves.....because we are fundamentally selfish. The command to love here is a command to act in a way (do go to those who persecute you) that appears loving toward our enemies.

How do you personally quantify or identify when you are loving your enemies?


You still have not answered the question.
Do you believe and act on the assumption that your wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and are you skeptical of her motives?"

Possible answers include:
1. I act on the assumption that my wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and I am skeptical of her motives.
Or
2. I do not act on the assumption that my wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and I am not skeptical of her motives.

You could throw in a percentage if you like, but quoting Jesus, and out of context at that, is not an answer to the question.

"If you don't disagree with Jesus, then you can't really disagree with me."
I am going to have to put that on a bumper sticker.


Feel free to put all of the complete answers you have already received from me on bumper stickers.

You've done a masterful job ignoring what dismisses your point. Keep it up.
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Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

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Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

Canon said:

D. C. Bear said:

CSIBear said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

I was taught God said this world was good. Could have sworn i read that.
No worries brother, I always stop reading after the first sentence of a book as well.


Where does God tell us to be cynical?


This question has already been answered with scripture. Unless you have a different definition of cynical.


Maybe there is a miscommunication about what cynicism is. Lay out the argument for the Biblical support of "Christian cynicism." I don't think it exists.


Cynicism vis-a-vis politics is directed by the Bible, per the verse listed above. Don't put your faith in princes. Elsewhere in genesis, we learn that God cursed the earth…making cynicism about environmentalism guaranteed.


How do you define cynicism? Or, to put it another way, what are the traits of a cynical person?


Believing or showing the belief that people are motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; skeptical of the motives of others.

"No one is good except God alone" - Jesus

Psalm 14:3 "there is none who does good, not even one."

Psalm 146:3 "Do not trust in princes, In mortal man, in whom there is no salvation."

Jeremiah 17:5 "Thus says the Lord,
"Cursed is the man who trusts in mankind
And makes flesh his strength,
And whose heart turns away from the Lord."

Psalm 118:9 "It is better to take refuge in the Lord
Than to trust in princes."

Isaiah 2:22 "Stop regarding man, whose breath of life is in his nostrils; For why should he be esteemed?"

Isaiah 30:2 "Who proceed down to Egypt
Without consulting Me,
To take refuge in the safety of Pharaoh
And to seek shelter in the shadow of Egypt!"


Are you married?


Happily. Have you seen divorce statistics?


Yes. Zero percent for me, and I hope for you as well.

Do you believe and act on the assumption that your wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and are you skeptical of her motives?


Your motives, your wife's, my wife's, mine - all of us are selfish and suspect. Even altruism and love have a selfish component. It's the genesis of both acrimonious divorces and vicious nepotism.


Altruism, by definition, is selfless, but you didn't quite answer my question: "Do you believe and act on the assumption that your wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and are you skeptical of her motives?"
I answered your question. Do you believe altruism has no major component of selfishness? Be honest now


Altruism is, by definition, selfless, whether I believe it or not.

There is plenty of debate over whether altruism is even possible, but I think we can safely say that altruism, to the degree it is a real thing, does not have a "major component of selfishness."
The general definition certainly suggests it is, but that's not what I asked you. You are ignoring the vicious side of the familial relationship to which we like to assign altruism as a given. Nepotism that has led to tribal wars in many parts of the world. Love that incorporates possessiveness that makes the actions done supposedly on behalf of the 'loved on' being largely motivated by the fact that the person acting sees that person as simply an extension of themselves and thus acts selfishly and horribly to others. Is that altruism? We could go on, of course, but you probably get the idea, even if you won't admit it.

Finally, do you disagree with Jesus Christ when He said, "No one is good except God alone"?


I only asked you about a family relationship to see if you actually put your money where your mouth is, so to speak. Altruism can be directed at total strangers.

I do not disagree with Jesus Christ when he said that.

Do you disagree with Jesus Christ when he said "love your enemies?"
My answer to you is simply to quote Jesus; "No one is good except God alone". That's what I believe.

If you don't disagree with Jesus, then you can't really disagree with me. No one is good. Cynicism is therefore justified and should be the baseline for humans. It's the foolish notion that humans are fundamentally good that leads us into attempts at creating earthly utopias that lead to nothing more than dystopian disasters.

We are to love our enemies and do good to those who persecute us. That's a very personal command, as I see it and it's tied to treating others as we want to be treated, because everyone has a fundamental love for themselves.....because we are fundamentally selfish. The command to love here is a command to act in a way (do go to those who persecute you) that appears loving toward our enemies.

How do you personally quantify or identify when you are loving your enemies?


You still have not answered the question.
Do you believe and act on the assumption that your wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and are you skeptical of her motives?"

Possible answers include:
1. I act on the assumption that my wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and I am skeptical of her motives.
Or
2. I do not act on the assumption that my wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and I am not skeptical of her motives.

You could throw in a percentage if you like, but quoting Jesus, and out of context at that, is not an answer to the question.

"If you don't disagree with Jesus, then you can't really disagree with me."
I am going to have to put that on a bumper sticker.


Feel free to put all of the complete answers you have already received from me on bumper stickers.

You've done a masterful job ignoring what dismisses your point. Keep it up.


Feel free to answer the question.
Then I will be glad to address your misrepresentation of the Master.
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I was taught God said this world was good. Could have sworn i read that.
No worries brother, I always stop reading after the first sentence of a book as well.


Where does God tell us to be cynical?


This question has already been answered with scripture. Unless you have a different definition of cynical.


Maybe there is a miscommunication about what cynicism is. Lay out the argument for the Biblical support of "Christian cynicism." I don't think it exists.


Cynicism vis-a-vis politics is directed by the Bible, per the verse listed above. Don't put your faith in princes. Elsewhere in genesis, we learn that God cursed the earth…making cynicism about environmentalism guaranteed.


How do you define cynicism? Or, to put it another way, what are the traits of a cynical person?


Believing or showing the belief that people are motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; skeptical of the motives of others.

"No one is good except God alone" - Jesus

Psalm 14:3 "there is none who does good, not even one."

Psalm 146:3 "Do not trust in princes, In mortal man, in whom there is no salvation."

Jeremiah 17:5 "Thus says the Lord,
"Cursed is the man who trusts in mankind
And makes flesh his strength,
And whose heart turns away from the Lord."

Psalm 118:9 "It is better to take refuge in the Lord
Than to trust in princes."

Isaiah 2:22 "Stop regarding man, whose breath of life is in his nostrils; For why should he be esteemed?"

Isaiah 30:2 "Who proceed down to Egypt
Without consulting Me,
To take refuge in the safety of Pharaoh
And to seek shelter in the shadow of Egypt!"


Are you married?


Happily. Have you seen divorce statistics?


Yes. Zero percent for me, and I hope for you as well.

Do you believe and act on the assumption that your wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and are you skeptical of her motives?


Your motives, your wife's, my wife's, mine - all of us are selfish and suspect. Even altruism and love have a selfish component. It's the genesis of both acrimonious divorces and vicious nepotism.


Altruism, by definition, is selfless, but you didn't quite answer my question: "Do you believe and act on the assumption that your wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and are you skeptical of her motives?"
I answered your question. Do you believe altruism has no major component of selfishness? Be honest now


Altruism is, by definition, selfless, whether I believe it or not.

There is plenty of debate over whether altruism is even possible, but I think we can safely say that altruism, to the degree it is a real thing, does not have a "major component of selfishness."
The general definition certainly suggests it is, but that's not what I asked you. You are ignoring the vicious side of the familial relationship to which we like to assign altruism as a given. Nepotism that has led to tribal wars in many parts of the world. Love that incorporates possessiveness that makes the actions done supposedly on behalf of the 'loved on' being largely motivated by the fact that the person acting sees that person as simply an extension of themselves and thus acts selfishly and horribly to others. Is that altruism? We could go on, of course, but you probably get the idea, even if you won't admit it.

Finally, do you disagree with Jesus Christ when He said, "No one is good except God alone"?


I only asked you about a family relationship to see if you actually put your money where your mouth is, so to speak. Altruism can be directed at total strangers.

I do not disagree with Jesus Christ when he said that.

Do you disagree with Jesus Christ when he said "love your enemies?"
My answer to you is simply to quote Jesus; "No one is good except God alone". That's what I believe.

If you don't disagree with Jesus, then you can't really disagree with me. No one is good. Cynicism is therefore justified and should be the baseline for humans. It's the foolish notion that humans are fundamentally good that leads us into attempts at creating earthly utopias that lead to nothing more than dystopian disasters.

We are to love our enemies and do good to those who persecute us. That's a very personal command, as I see it and it's tied to treating others as we want to be treated, because everyone has a fundamental love for themselves.....because we are fundamentally selfish. The command to love here is a command to act in a way (do go to those who persecute you) that appears loving toward our enemies.

How do you personally quantify or identify when you are loving your enemies?


You still have not answered the question.
Do you believe and act on the assumption that your wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and are you skeptical of her motives?"

Possible answers include:
1. I act on the assumption that my wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and I am skeptical of her motives.
Or
2. I do not act on the assumption that my wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and I am not skeptical of her motives.

You could throw in a percentage if you like, but quoting Jesus, and out of context at that, is not an answer to the question.

"If you don't disagree with Jesus, then you can't really disagree with me."
I am going to have to put that on a bumper sticker.


Feel free to put all of the complete answers you have already received from me on bumper stickers.

You've done a masterful job ignoring what dismisses your point. Keep it up.


Feel free to answer the question.
Then I will be glad to address your misrepresentation of the Master.
Your questions, all of them, have been fully and completely answered by me. That you didn't like the answer because it was too complete for your purposes and frustrated your sophomoric attempts at leading questions, doesn't really have any bearing on the completeness of the response.
 
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